Having potato at lunch?
splucy
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So I've realised that I need a decent amount of carbs at lunch time to keep me fueled through out the day and give me some much needed energy for the gym after work!
My question is.... Would I be better off having say.... mashed potato instead of bread?
I am having a lot of ham and salad sandwiches at lunch time (Wholegrain bread of course!) and am just thinking that a more 'pure' carbohydrate may be more health beneficial than this processed crap.
I thought that I could perhaps have my turkey bolognaise with some mashed potato for lunch tomorrow. Good idea or nahhhhh?
Thoughts?
My question is.... Would I be better off having say.... mashed potato instead of bread?
I am having a lot of ham and salad sandwiches at lunch time (Wholegrain bread of course!) and am just thinking that a more 'pure' carbohydrate may be more health beneficial than this processed crap.
I thought that I could perhaps have my turkey bolognaise with some mashed potato for lunch tomorrow. Good idea or nahhhhh?
Thoughts?
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It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.0
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Please stop!It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
To the OP.
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_good_the_bad_and_the_assfattening_the_new_starchy_carb_food_pyramid0 -
I would base your decision on your taste buds and personal preference assuming you are still consuming your goal intake in kcals and macros by end of day.0
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THiS!I would base your preference on your taste buds and personal preference assuming you are still consuming your goal intake in kcals and macros by end of day.0 -
It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
Oh yes starchy carbs... I must learn more about this! On to Google!0 -
It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
Oh yes starchy carbs... I must learn more about this! On to Google!
Don't Google. Maybe Google scholar. But not straight Google. You'll get dizzy with all the conflicting information.
The carbs will help you at the gym. If you stay under your calories you will be fine. I eat potatoes all the time with no ill effects... and I do not balance my carbs.
You'll be fine.
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Please stop!It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
To the OP.
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_good_the_bad_and_the_assfattening_the_new_starchy_carb_food_pyramid
Please come up with your own ideas!0 -
It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
Oh yes starchy carbs... I must learn more about this! On to Google!
With no disrespect intended to anyone, I really wouldn't complicate your diet by worrying about avoiding carb types. Hit your end of day totals and use some common sense (ex: fruits and veggies over candy bars in most cases) and beyond that just rinse and repeat, profit.0 -
It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
Can you clarify why you are recommending this?0 -
So I've realised that I need a decent amount of carbs at lunch time to keep me fueled through out the day and give me some much needed energy for the gym after work!
My question is.... Would I be better off having say.... mashed potato instead of bread?
I am having a lot of ham and salad sandwiches at lunch time (Wholegrain bread of course!) and am just thinking that a more 'pure' carbohydrate may be more health beneficial than this processed crap.
I thought that I could perhaps have my turkey bolognaise with some mashed potato for lunch tomorrow. Good idea or nahhhhh?
Thoughts?
Have which ever one you prefer. Carbs are not bad - even starchy carbs.
The benefit potatoes have over bread is that they are LOADED with potassium.
AND PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF PETE... let's not vilify starch!
I just had a lovely potato based dinner at EIGHT O'CLOCK! Oh noes.... I might get the diabeetus or wake up wrapped up in stubborn belly fat!
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if coming up with my own "ideas" will lead to spreading misinformation like you're doing. I will continue to post links.
Please stop!It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
To the OP.
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_good_the_bad_and_the_assfattening_the_new_starchy_carb_food_pyramid
Please come up with your own ideas!
You make no sense at all.0 -
Starchy carbs are awesome for heavily engaged athletes and marathon runners, but I fail to see the necessity when planning an average lunch in a health upkeep nutritional program. Your article did not disprove my point at all, regardless of what you meant it to do.
if coming up with my own "ideas" will lead to spreading misinformation like you're doing. I will continue to post links.
Please stop!It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
To the OP.
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_good_the_bad_and_the_assfattening_the_new_starchy_carb_food_pyramid
Please come up with your own ideas!
You make no sense at all.
Additionally, you probably just typed "Starchy carbs" into google and looked for the most horrifying web title you could find. Unless you personally know something about them, don't post an article as if you wrote it.0 -
You can eat starchy carbs anytime you want. You act like your body is going to detect starches and immediately add +100 pounds. A carb is 4 calories per gram. It doesn't matter if it's potato or a piece of fruit.
Starchy carbs are awesome for heavily engaged athletes and marathon runners, but I fail to see the necessity when planning an average lunch in a health upkeep nutritional program. Your article did not disprove my point at all, regardless of what you meant it to do.
if coming up with my own "ideas" will lead to spreading misinformation like you're doing. I will continue to post links.
Please stop!It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
To the OP.
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_good_the_bad_and_the_assfattening_the_new_starchy_carb_food_pyramid
Please come up with your own ideas!
You make no sense at all.
So, would you like to continue to spew your broscience nonsense?.0 -
How will a starchy carb differ from a non starchy carb of equal grams in CHO? What makes the starchy carb arbitrarily bad?0
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Starchy carbs are awesome for heavily engaged athletes and marathon runners, but I fail to see the necessity when planning an average lunch in a health upkeep nutritional program. Your article did not disprove my point at all, regardless of what you meant it to do.
You're cute. Everyone you are arguing with is in their 30's, look pretty damn good, and Sidesteal especially enjoys a VERY good reputation for knowing his stuff (no disrespect to fitnesssocialist, who I have not yet met, but is already off to a good start).
You'll learn. Bless. :flowerforyou:0 -
It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
First why wheat bread over let's say white bread, keeping in mind the effect of phytate content in wheat bread on mineral absorption and why no yolks int he eggs? mother nature cries when you throw out the yolk0 -
I'm gluten intolerant so I can't have most pasta/breads unless I make the myself, I have since found that trial and error is the best way to figure out what my body needs and how it will feel after a meal.
Personally, if I'm having an issue staying awake during the day protein helps me stay awake better than carbs, however, that's me. I'd suggest using your diary to the fullest and using the note section to keep track of alertness/drowsiness after meals and change the meals until you find what works best for you.0 -
It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
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You can eat starchy carbs anytime you want. You act like your body is going to detect starches and immediately add +100 pounds. A carb is 4 calories per gram. It doesn't matter if it's potato or a piece of fruit.
So, would you like to continue to spew your broscience nonsense?.
What are you talking about? Eating starchy carbs one day or another won't impact your health curve as long as you remain active, but eating only potatoes as a carb isn't "healthy" and you should try to derive your source of carbs from other sources. Starches can turn to sugar more quickly, despite having the same carbohydrate amount as a piece of bread. We need some starches, but sometimes we need the long lasting effect of whole grain carbohydrates to stay in our system longer than a starch carb will. Since plants convert sugars to starches as a form of food storage, our bodies can easily switch it back when it comes to certain food items, such as potatoes.0 -
It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
First why wheat bread over let's say white bread, keeping in mind the effect of phytate content in wheat bread on mineral absorption and why no yolks int he eggs? mother nature cries when you throw out the yolk
lol... so so true the white and yolk work together! unless your making a pavlova!0 -
You can eat starchy carbs anytime you want. You act like your body is going to detect starches and immediately add +100 pounds. A carb is 4 calories per gram. It doesn't matter if it's potato or a piece of fruit.
So, would you like to continue to spew your broscience nonsense?.
What are you talking about? Eating starchy carbs one day or another won't impact your health curve as long as you remain active, but eating only potatoes as a carb isn't "healthy" and you should try to derive your source of carbs from other sources. Starches can turn to sugar more quickly, despite having the same carbohydrate amount as a piece of bread. We need some starches, but sometimes we need the long lasting effect of whole grain carbohydrates to stay in our system longer than a starch carb will. Since plants convert sugars to starches as a form of food storage, our bodies can easily switch it back when it comes to certain food items, such as potatoes.
So are you saying that a low GI diet is superior and that whole grain carbs are better then other carbs?0 -
Eat whatever you prefer! Or switch it up so you don't get bored 0
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yall are making my hungry for starchy carbs.0
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With wheat or whole grain, you get the unprocessed everything of the wheat, no just portions of it. You could also eat white bread, but you get more nutritionally from wheat. In a balanced diet, mineral absorption usually is able to work with an elastic metabolism. As for the yolks in the eggs, there's fat there which isn't present in egg whites.It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
First why wheat bread over let's say white bread, keeping in mind the effect of phytate content in wheat bread on mineral absorption and why no yolks int he eggs? mother nature cries when you throw out the yolk0 -
With wheat or whole grain, you get the unprocessed everything of the wheat, no just portions of it. You could also eat white bread, but you get more nutritionally from wheat. In a balanced diet, mineral absorption usually is able to work with an elastic metabolism. As for the yolks in the eggs, there's fat there which isn't present in egg whites.It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
First why wheat bread over let's say white bread, keeping in mind the effect of phytate content in wheat bread on mineral absorption and why no yolks int he eggs? mother nature cries when you throw out the yolk
What's wrong with the fat in eggs?0 -
With wheat or whole grain, you get the unprocessed everything of the wheat, no just portions of it. You could also eat white bread, but you get more nutritionally from wheat. In a balanced diet, mineral absorption usually is able to work with an elastic metabolism. As for the yolks in the eggs, there's fat there which isn't present in egg whites.It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
First why wheat bread over let's say white bread, keeping in mind the effect of phytate content in wheat bread on mineral absorption and why no yolks int he eggs? mother nature cries when you throw out the yolk
WHY do I suddenly want eggs over easy on hash browns now? WHHHHYYYYY?!?!?!?!0 -
With wheat or whole grain, you get the unprocessed everything of the wheat, no just portions of it. You could also eat white bread, but you get more nutritionally from wheat. In a balanced diet, mineral absorption usually is able to work with an elastic metabolism. As for the yolks in the eggs, there's fat there which isn't present in egg whites.It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
First why wheat bread over let's say white bread, keeping in mind the effect of phytate content in wheat bread on mineral absorption and why no yolks int he eggs? mother nature cries when you throw out the yolk
Eek! not fat!
As for mineral absorption and whole grains;
Bohn T, et al. Phytic acid added to white-wheat bread inhibits fractional apparent magnesium absorption in humans. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, March 2004; (79) 3: 418-423.
Torre M, et al. Effects of dietary fiber and phytic acid on mineral availability. Critical Reviews in Food Science and Nutrition, 1991; 30 (1): 1-22.
Reinhold JG, et al. Effects of purified phytate and phytate-rich bread upon metabolism of zinc, calcium, phosphorous, and nitrogen in man. Lancet, Feb. 10, 1973; 1 (7798): 283-288.
Campbell BJ, et al. The effects of prolonged consumption of wholemeal bread upon metabolism of calcium, magnesium, zinc and phosphorus of two young American adults. Pahlavi Medical Journal, Jan, 1976; 7 (1): 1-17.
Reinhold JG, et al. Decreased absorption of calcium, magnesium, zinc and phosphorus by humans due to increased fiber and phosphorus consumption as wheat bread. Journal of Nutrition, Apr, 1976; 106 (4): 493-503.0 -
The GI index is pretty much useless. Glycemic Load is more accurate, even then it doesn't matter for the average person.You can eat starchy carbs anytime you want. You act like your body is going to detect starches and immediately add +100 pounds. A carb is 4 calories per gram. It doesn't matter if it's potato or a piece of fruit.
So, would you like to continue to spew your broscience nonsense?.
What are you talking about? Eating starchy carbs one day or another won't impact your health curve as long as you remain active, but eating only potatoes as a carb isn't "healthy" and you should try to derive your source of carbs from other sources. Starches can turn to sugar more quickly, despite having the same carbohydrate amount as a piece of bread. We need some starches, but sometimes we need the long lasting effect of whole grain carbohydrates to stay in our system longer than a starch carb will. Since plants convert sugars to starches as a form of food storage, our bodies can easily switch it back when it comes to certain food items, such as potatoes.0 -
With wheat or whole grain, you get the unprocessed everything of the wheat, no just portions of it. You could also eat white bread, but you get more nutritionally from wheat. In a balanced diet, mineral absorption usually is able to work with an elastic metabolism. As for the yolks in the eggs, there's fat there which isn't present in egg whites.It's fine, but balance out your intake of potatoes with wheat breads and egg (no yolk) or wheat noodles. Carbs are good for energy, but starchy carbs can add up quicker.
First why wheat bread over let's say white bread, keeping in mind the effect of phytate content in wheat bread on mineral absorption and why no yolks int he eggs? mother nature cries when you throw out the yolk
WHY do I suddenly want eggs over easy on hash browns now? WHHHHYYYYY?!?!?!?!
THAT sounds delish!0 -
I'm saying that some diets work more for some than others will, and that a low GL diet is better for upkeep, especially when one has to do other things during the day that impedes their ability to be physically active. Carbs can be adjusted and, ignoring the idea of bread and potatoes, come from a variety of other sources. Whole grain carbs, as compared to other carbs, there is no difference. But with whole grain bread, you receive more of the nutrients. Wheat bread is made from flour using all three parts of the wheat. It is known as "whole grain" flour. Whole grain flour contains the nutrients found in the bran, the embryo and the endosperm. White bread, on the other hand, is the finely ground endosperm of the wheat kernel only. Nutrients provided by the bran and embryo are stripped away in the process of making white bread.0
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