Dangerous carbs
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Really people? OP was posting what's worked for her and her family. Why the heck does everyone think it's a-ok to get snarky and rude?
Not everyone responds well to carbs and sugar-some people do best counting calories, eating super high protein, following a lower carb plan or even going Paleo.
We all have to find what works for US as individuals. Give OP a break. Some of the responses I've seen on here have just been uncalled for and frankly, I'm sure scares off a lot of people. Remember what mom used to say? "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all."0 -
I don't believe carbs are dangerous.
I do believe that people's bodies are different from one another. I have insulin resistance and polycystic ovary syndrome, I am trying to find out what true calorie intake I need to have, I know it is less than what is recommended on MFP because I have stalled major for 3 weeks now. There was a study that showed that women with pcos bodies burned less calories than a person without pcos. At the rate of approximately 300 calories a day less. I am going to try to find what works for me, no fad diets, but what calorie intake and expenditure will help me to lose weight.
Regarding PCOS, I've read a lot of stuff lately that the low-glycemic load diet is an excellent choice to help control PCOS. I've got several books on it - and that does follow a lower carb or "good carb" philosophy with no refined sugars or flours, etc. I would highly recommend you ask your physician if that might not be a perfect fit to help you lose weight AND control your insulin resistance and PCOS.0 -
Be Little. That's exactly why I'm here.
Tired of being big. I love to be little. I get more attention that way.0 -
I'm just here for the hilarious pix
carry on.0 -
Really people? OP was posting what's worked for her and her family. Why the heck does everyone think it's a-ok to get snarky and rude?
Not everyone responds well to carbs and sugar-some people do best counting calories, eating super high protein, following a lower carb plan or even going Paleo.
We all have to find what works for US as individuals. Give OP a break. Some of the responses I've seen on here have just been uncalled for and frankly, I'm sure scares off a lot of people. Remember what mom used to say? "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all."
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Damn, I didn't realize people on this site were so mean!!!!!!!0
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lol. this may be true but carbs can do so much more...like give me energy to take out the garbage since my hubby wont
Girl that ring is huge and beautiful,you know carbs can't buy you that right?loli love carbs, i would marry them if i could. NEVER giving them up.
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I'm just here for the hilarious pix
carry on.
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Well.... like everything in life moderation is the key.
Without carbs your brain function would diminish because it doesn't have the essential energy and nutrients to function normally (which causes early onset of dementia) ... and that isn't even covering what your body needs to use for energy. We all need carbs it's what helps balance blood sugar levels and prevents a person from crashing and binge eating because their blood sugar levels are low (yes this happens in everyone not just diabetics).... this is what happens when a person tries one of those no carb fad diets... and then they gain double their weight back.... I've been a type 1 diabetic for 30 years.... I know food to a tee.
What you forgot to mention is complex carbs (the ones that take longer to digest and feed your body energy over a longer period of time and make you feel full longer)... that is the stuff everyone should be eating ie; brown bread, brown pasta, brown rice etc.0 -
i love carbs, i would marry them if i could. NEVER giving them up.
^ditto...i gave them up for a week and about killed someone because i was so crabby!0 -
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Well.... like everything in life moderation is the key.
Without carbs your brain function would diminish because it doesn't have the essential energy and nutrients to function normally (which causes early onset of dementia) ... and that isn't even covering what your body needs to use for energy. We all need carbs it's what helps balance blood sugar levels and prevents a person from crashing and binge eating because their blood sugar levels are low (yes this happens in everyone not just diabetics).... this is what happens when a person tries one of those no carb fad diets... and then they gain double their weight back.... I've been a type 1 diabetic for 30 years.... I know food to a tee.
What you forgot to mention is complex carbs (the ones that take longer to digest and feed your body energy over a longer period of time and make you feel full longer)... that is the stuff everyone should be eating ie; brown bread, brown pasta, brown rice etc.
We really don't need carbs because protein and ketones can step in when needed, but thanks for the lesson in nutrition. Actually people gain double their weight back because of leptin deficiency that causes them to cave in to excess hunger and revert back to their old eating habits, which usually involves excessive carbs.0 -
As someone who runs 35 miles a week, bikes 40, and lifts weights 3 days a week... I would *DIE* without carbs.0
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Wow...........how sad! This is a message board for General Diet and Weight loss Help................full grown adults acting like they belong on myspace...................If you cannot help educate her nicely, why can't you just go to the fun and games section and find something on their to act like children on. I cannot believe how much this site has changed in just a couple of years. People used to be nice.............now everyone is afraid to post for fear of ridicule. Grow up people!:explode: :mad:0
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wow. I'm really saddened by all the low carb bashers on here.
Whether you agree with her or not, whether you think she is wrong or not is not a reason to just be a ****.
Our bodies do not need carbs. We need fat, we need protein, but we do not need carbs. There is nothing in carbs, that is provided ONLY in carbs that our body cannot function without. Our body will naturally make the glucose that it needs from synthesizing fat.
We have evolved for thousands of years eating low carb. We cannot change our genetic disposition in a few thousand years. It would take thousands of generations for our bodies to adjust to eating a diet mainly consisting of seeds(which is what most grains are).
Bottom line is that no one knows what the best diet is for people. No one. That's why there is so much "misinformation" out there. Were all kind of guessing, and testing. It takes a long time for effects to show up in peoples lives, there are too many variables, and people don't like to be experimented on. I don't believe that anyone has a perfect diet that will work for everyone, not just for weight loss, but for health. Weight loss should be the side effect of a diet, not the cause. Any diet that is designed for weight loss cannot be applied universally, because it ceases to be correct as soon as the target weight is reached.
Regardless of our views on carbs, or calories, or meat, or grains or whatever, we are all on the same team. We all have the same goals. We are hear to loose weight, and help others do so. There is no need for all the venom and vitrol. Lets work together to lift each other up, and not bash each other down. Many people here have already been bashed enough for weight issues or other things, lets not continue the trend.
K, Thnx, Bye.0 -
Well.... like everything in life moderation is the key.
Without carbs your brain function would diminish because it doesn't have the essential energy and nutrients to function normally (which causes early onset of dementia) ... and that isn't even covering what your body needs to use for energy. We all need carbs it's what helps balance blood sugar levels and prevents a person from crashing and binge eating because their blood sugar levels are low (yes this happens in everyone not just diabetics).... this is what happens when a person tries one of those no carb fad diets... and then they gain double their weight back.... I've been a type 1 diabetic for 30 years.... I know food to a tee.
What you forgot to mention is complex carbs (the ones that take longer to digest and feed your body energy over a longer period of time and make you feel full longer)... that is the stuff everyone should be eating ie; brown bread, brown pasta, brown rice etc.
We really don't need carbs because protein and ketones can step in when needed, but thanks for the lesson in nutrition. Actually people gain double their weight back because of leptin deficiency that causes them to cave in to excess hunger and revert back to their old eating habits, which usually involves excessive carbs.
We really do need carbs.... ketones and fatty acids can not feed every cell or organ in our bodies... fatty acids cannot be used as a source of fuel for brain function, our brain function depends on glucose or ketones... However ketones are only produced by broken down fatty acids and when the body cannot obtain enough 'carbohydrates' that's when your liver or kidneys produce it.... I know it takes the liver and kidney a significant amount of time to produce ketones. So when you deprive your body of carbs your blood sugar levels drop.... then you go into a very mild form of hypoglycemia... when that happens your body's natural reaction is to get something inside you to restore your blood sugar levels.... and that most times happens to be carbs (that is where weight gain comes in). Eating carbs works alot faster than your body stepping in and producing ketones when you need it.. It can take your liver up to 12 hours to produce ketones and most times you need it quicker than that.0 -
i see the MFP lynch mob is in full effect....;0)0
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When I weighed my least I ate bread and potatoes non-stop, and pasta. Now I don't eat much of those things and I am not so small now.
When I was eating high carb/low fat, I gained weight, was hungry all the time, and had bad blood work.
On low carb, I lose weight, feel fantastic, and my blood work is so good my doctor often sends it back to get it redone.
For SOME people, cutting back on carbs is the best way to go.0 -
Well.... like everything in life moderation is the key.
Without carbs your brain function would diminish because it doesn't have the essential energy and nutrients to function normally (which causes early onset of dementia) ... and that isn't even covering what your body needs to use for energy. We all need carbs it's what helps balance blood sugar levels and prevents a person from crashing and binge eating because their blood sugar levels are low (yes this happens in everyone not just diabetics).... this is what happens when a person tries one of those no carb fad diets... and then they gain double their weight back.... I've been a type 1 diabetic for 30 years.... I know food to a tee.
What you forgot to mention is complex carbs (the ones that take longer to digest and feed your body energy over a longer period of time and make you feel full longer)... that is the stuff everyone should be eating ie; brown bread, brown pasta, brown rice etc.
We really don't need carbs because protein and ketones can step in when needed, but thanks for the lesson in nutrition. Actually people gain double their weight back because of leptin deficiency that causes them to cave in to excess hunger and revert back to their old eating habits, which usually involves excessive carbs.
We really do need carbs.... ketones and fatty acids can not feed every cell or organ in our bodies... fatty acids cannot be used as a source of fuel for brain function, our brain function depends on glucose or ketones... However ketones are only produced by broken down fatty acids and when the body cannot obtain enough 'carbohydrates' that's when your liver or kidneys produce it.... I know it takes the liver and kidney a significant amount of time to produce ketones. So when you deprive your body of carbs your blood sugar levels drop.... then you go into a very mild form of hypoglycemia... when that happens your body's natural reaction is to get something inside you to restore your blood sugar levels.... and that most times happens to be carbs (that is where weight gain comes in). Eating carbs works alot faster than your body stepping in and producing ketones when you need it.. It can take your liver up to 12 hours to produce ketones and most times you need it quicker than that.
A huge problem is people mistaken how much carb our bodies need...0 -
Well.... like everything in life moderation is the key.
Without carbs your brain function would diminish because it doesn't have the essential energy and nutrients to function normally (which causes early onset of dementia) ... and that isn't even covering what your body needs to use for energy. We all need carbs it's what helps balance blood sugar levels and prevents a person from crashing and binge eating because their blood sugar levels are low (yes this happens in everyone not just diabetics).... this is what happens when a person tries one of those no carb fad diets... and then they gain double their weight back.... I've been a type 1 diabetic for 30 years.... I know food to a tee.
What you forgot to mention is complex carbs (the ones that take longer to digest and feed your body energy over a longer period of time and make you feel full longer)... that is the stuff everyone should be eating ie; brown bread, brown pasta, brown rice etc.
We really don't need carbs because protein and ketones can step in when needed, but thanks for the lesson in nutrition. Actually people gain double their weight back because of leptin deficiency that causes them to cave in to excess hunger and revert back to their old eating habits, which usually involves excessive carbs.
We really do need carbs.... ketones and fatty acids can not feed every cell or organ in our bodies... fatty acids cannot be used as a source of fuel for brain function, our brain function depends on glucose or ketones... However ketones are only produced by broken down fatty acids and when the body cannot obtain enough 'carbohydrates' that's when your liver or kidneys produce it.... I know it takes the liver and kidney a significant amount of time to produce ketones. So when you deprive your body of carbs your blood sugar levels drop.... then you go into a very mild form of hypoglycemia... when that happens your body's natural reaction is to get something inside you to restore your blood sugar levels.... and that most times happens to be carbs (that is where weight gain comes in). Eating carbs works alot faster than your body stepping in and producing ketones when you need it.. It can take your liver up to 12 hours to produce ketones and most times you need it quicker than that.
75% of your brain's fuel can come from ketones, the rest can come from protein through gluconeogenesis. There is no requirement for carbs, even though carbs are the preferred fuel when available.0 -
I will never look at my pancakes the same.....0
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That sounds a lot like the diet that I was put on when i was pregnant and had gestational diabetes. I could have 2 units for breakfast and 3 units for lunch and dinner, otherwise my blood sugars were totally out of whack.
i know that a calorie is a calorie, but I also know that I feel better and have more energy and in turn lose more weight when eating less carbs.
I have had gestational diabetes with two pregancies and was recommended to have two carb choices/units for breakfast and each of three snacks (between meals and before bed) and four carb choices (app. 60 g) for lunch and dinner. After I had my baby (5 months ago) the nutritionist and endocrinologist recommended sticking with the same plan but adding 2 more units at breakfast.
To me, 90 grams seems a bit low, but I know there are people here who stick to that.0 -
This message board reminds me very much of one of those teen films - Heathers, Mean Girls - you know, the ones where a small elite group of 'beautiful people' (at least in their own minds), sneer and nip at all the lesser mortals they see around them.
The ironic thing is, there seem to be a big chunk of people on this message board who, no matter how ripped/toned they get their bodies looking, will STILL be damn ugly underneath their skin.0 -
Okay, maybe stating that carbs are dangerous and eating bread can make you gain weight are not entirely true statements if you take them exactly as typed, but this woman does not deserve the unbelievable amount of sarcasm that her post has generated. She simply was sharing something that is working for her and her family, and followed it up with "see a nutritionist" for anyone who is interested. If you're not interested, don't do it. If you feel that you must correct some information in her post, why be nasty about it? I thought this was supposed to be a supportive environment...?
I eat carbs, and plenty of 'em, and am losing weight. I'm going to continue with that approach, but if a low carb lifestyle works for someone else and they are following an eating plan from their nutritionist, then it sounds like they are being healthy and responsible.0 -
I love how many experts we have on this site. Any time someone posts about something that worked for them you get experts jumping in to ridicule and call people stupid. The fact is, depending on what you read, carbs are good or bad for you. I've yet to see actual proof of either. Just google "Do we need carbs" and you'll find lots of sites that say yes or no. Whatever works for you is the best imo. So grats to the OP for lower carbs working for their family.0
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75% of your brain's fuel can come from ketones, the rest can come from protein through gluconeogenesis. There is no requirement for carbs, even though carbs are the preferred fuel when available.
Ever since the beginning of time we have consumed carb in some form or other... a prime example is grains (complex carb) or fruits (fast acting carbs)... even tomatoes have carbs... I think many don't realize that fatty acids come from whole grain foods (complex carb), some nuts (some have carb).... So yes we do need carb.... without fatty acids we don't produce ketones....0 -
I am not saying its easy to eat a diet without carbs because they are in almost everything, but its certainly possible to do so and survive just fine. You can get plenty of fat from meat without the carbs anyways.75% of your brain's fuel can come from ketones, the rest can come from protein through gluconeogenesis. There is no requirement for carbs, even though carbs are the preferred fuel when available.Ever since the beginning of time we have consumed carb in some form or other... a prime example is grains (complex carb) or fruits (fast acting carbs)... even tomatoes have carbs... I think many don't realize that fatty acids come from whole grain foods (complex carb), some nuts (some have carb).... So yes we do need carb.... without fatty acids we don't produce ketones....0 -
I so agree, I have to think 110 times about what people will say about my posts before I hit "Post Reply". With the internet, anything can be "proven" or "debunked". Even the true experts can't agree on what works. The fact is the OP had success, shouldn't we all just be happy for her, regardless of our opinions?
Low carb low sugar has gotten me to my "calorie deficit" and made me feel great. It's helped with a lot of other issues I was having including being lactose intolerant, having bad headaches everyday and major mood swings and stress. I don't care about the science or studies or articles or anything else, I just know it worked for me and I know I am healthier for it.
Thanks for sharing your story OP!!0 -
I am not saying its easy to eat a diet without carbs because they are in almost everything, but its certainly possible to do so and survive just fine. You can get plenty of fat from meat without the carbs anyways.75% of your brain's fuel can come from ketones, the rest can come from protein through gluconeogenesis. There is no requirement for carbs, even though carbs are the preferred fuel when available.Ever since the beginning of time we have consumed carb in some form or other... a prime example is grains (complex carb) or fruits (fast acting carbs)... even tomatoes have carbs... I think many don't realize that fatty acids come from whole grain foods (complex carb), some nuts (some have carb).... So yes we do need carb.... without fatty acids we don't produce ketones....
The fat from meat is not healthy for you, it raises your cholesterol .Meats contain high levels of the amino acid L-lysine, which increases insulin production, prompting the liver to release fat and cholesterol into the bloodstream. its best to eat lean meats and preferably soy protein. I don't wish to lecture because I'm certain you already knew that about meat protein. And also consuming too much meat can also age your digestive system much faster because it's one of the hardest things for your stomach to digest..
But anyways... life is just so much better when we eat in moderation and be careful how much carb we eat, but we do eat too much and over estimate how much we need. If we know our bodies well and listen to what it tells us then that is all that matters because then we can make the best decisions for ourselves.0 -
I eat lots of carbs, even bread and sugar, and not only have I not gained weight, but I have actually lost! Crazy, I know, but it's true, you can eat whatever you want and lose weight.
Not entirely true there......We all became fat after eating what we wanted! lol0
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