Timing is everything...

adietron
adietron Posts: 155
edited November 2024 in Food and Nutrition
Just a few words of wisdom passed down to me from an AMAZING personal trainer (former bodybuilder, competitive swimmer, and 50-year old roller derby champion!)

WHEN you eat is just as important as WHAT you eat. Eating the "right" food isn't enough... you have to eat the right food at the right time.

1. It's wise to eat a big breakfast (more than 1/3 of your daily cal intake), and CRITICAL to do so with within an hour of waking. Breakfast is an especially important time to give your body the carbs it needs to get through the day. It's like gassing up your car before you go on a road trip... you need the fuel!

2. If you're doing any resistance training (and you should be) then your body NEEDS protein immediately afterword. Resistance training breaks down the muscle (essentially injuring it), so your body needs new raw materials to re-build that muscle. Get at least 20 grams of protein in your system within 30 minutes of completing your exercise. Protein shakes aren't just for body builders... they're for anyone who wants their muscles to do their fat-burning for them!

3. When you're asleep, you want your body to be burning FAT, not burning the food you've eaten, right? A great way to accomplish this is by cutting or severely limiting carbs after lunch. Would you fill up your gas tank right before you go on a 1-month vacation? Of course not! So why would your body need a bunch of energy (i.e. carbs) before bed?! If you're going to have bread or pasta, eat it before 3pm, and save your last meal of the day for protein, vitamin, and mineral restoration (meat and veggies).

A quick summary:
Eat breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, and dinner like a pauper... Front-load your carbs so that your body burns fat, not food, while you're asleep.

Best of luck!
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  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
    Also, in regards to point #2, previously ingested protein will have you covered for maximizing protein synthesis post workout and this invalidates the need to try and rush protein into your system post workout. Gram limitations aren't really relevant but then again, neither is timing.
  • MrsCon40
    MrsCon40 Posts: 2,351 Member

    Yeah. Meal timing is irrelevant.

    I have a dream that some day these myths will cease being perpetuated.
  • SergeantSunshine_reused
    SergeantSunshine_reused Posts: 5,382 Member
    Complete nonsense. Science supports none of this.
  • Nopedotjpeg
    Nopedotjpeg Posts: 1,805 Member
    Personal trainers are not dieticians.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    and for point #2

    Burd NA et al. Enhanced amino acid sensitivity of myofibrillar protein synthesis persists for up to 24 h after resistance exercise in young men. J Nutr. 2011 Apr 1;141(4):568-73. Epub 2011 Feb 2.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21289204
  • MissFit0101
    MissFit0101 Posts: 2,382
    If I ate that much for breakfast I would have gained 25lbs not lost 25lbs... trust me. LOL.


    Oh and dinner is a minimum of 600 cals.. MANDATORY!

    :flowerforyou:
  • Silverkittycat
    Silverkittycat Posts: 1,997 Member
    Just a few words of wisdom passed down to me from an AMAZING personal trainer (former bodybuilder, competitive swimmer, and 50-year old roller derby champion!)

    WHEN you eat is just as important as WHAT you eat. Eating the "right" food isn't enough... you have to eat the right food at the right time.
    1. It's wise to eat a big breakfast (more than 1/3 of your daily cal intake), and CRITICAL to do so with within an hour of waking. Breakfast is an especially important time to give your body the carbs it needs to get through the day. It's like gassing up your car before you go on a road trip... you need the fuel!
    I'm not a car.
    2. If you're doing any resistance training (and you should be) then your body NEEDS protein immediately afterword. Resistance training breaks down the muscle (essentially injuring it), so your body needs new raw materials to re-build that muscle. Get at least 20 grams of protein in your system within 30 minutes of completing your exercise. Protein shakes aren't just for body builders... they're for anyone who wants their muscles to do their fat-burning for them!
    No, the protein I ate hours ago is still good.
    3. When you're asleep, you want your body to be burning FAT, not burning the food you've eaten, right? A great way to accomplish this is by cutting or severely limiting carbs after lunch. Would you fill up your gas tank right before you go on a 1-month vacation? Of course not! So why would your body need a bunch of energy (i.e. carbs) before bed?! If you're going to have bread or pasta, eat it before 3pm, and save your last meal of the day for protein, vitamin, and mineral restoration (meat and veggies).
    I don't need a bunch of energy while sleeping, some carbs and nice dreams work quite well.
    A quick summary:
    Eat breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, and dinner like a pauper... Front-load your carbs so that your body burns fat, not food, while you're asleep.

    Best of luck!

    You mean well, thank you for that. :smile:
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member

    A quick summary:
    Eat breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, and dinner like a pauper... Front-load your carbs so that your body burns fat, not food, while you're asleep.

    Best of luck!

    Here's a fun study

    Sofer S, et al. Greater weight loss and hormonal changes after 6 months diet with carbohydrates eaten mostly at dinner. Obesity, 2011 Apr 7.

    http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/v19/n10/full/oby201148a.html
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    oh i thought this post was going to be about the stock market
  • Silverkittycat
    Silverkittycat Posts: 1,997 Member
    Now I know I'm the slowest typist in the world. I don't know why I bother. :tongue:
  • billtonkin
    billtonkin Posts: 109
    El Oh El.
  • myak623
    myak623 Posts: 615 Member
    I'm sure your trainer means well and this approach won't hinder your weight loss. However, there isn't any scientific proof to support the claims. Meal timing is completely irrelevant. It's more about personal choice.
  • LabRat529
    LabRat529 Posts: 1,323 Member
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    This, I love.
  • capnwo85
    capnwo85 Posts: 1,103 Member
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  • Captain_Tightpants
    Captain_Tightpants Posts: 2,215 Member
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    Now THAT is golden.
  • poesface
    poesface Posts: 5
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    Hey I know... maybe someone else can repeat the same thing and continue to criticize the original post? That would be best at this point. I think we need to hear it 8 more times before it really sinks in.
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    Hey I know... maybe someone else can repeat the same thing and continue to criticize the original post? That would be best at this point. I think we need to hear it 8 more times before it really sinks in.

    Okay! Meal timing is irrelevant! :drinker:
  • Captain_Tightpants
    Captain_Tightpants Posts: 2,215 Member
    Hey I know... maybe someone else can repeat the same thing and continue to criticize the original post? That would be best at this point. I think we need to hear it 8 more times before it really sinks in.

    As this subject comes up about... oh let's say once a DAY... I think it bears repeating as many times as possible.
  • KaleidoscopeEyes1056
    KaleidoscopeEyes1056 Posts: 2,996 Member
    oh i thought this post was going to be about the stock market

    I thought it was going to be about dirty jokes. :ohwell:
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
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  • Anomalia
    Anomalia Posts: 506 Member
    sigh
  • Sytera
    Sytera Posts: 75
    If it works for you, that is great! Way to go taking control of your health. I love eating lots of small meals and snacks. I have lost over 8 lbs in just over 3 weeks doing it. It may not work for everyone, but I'm not eating for everyone.
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    Just a few words of wisdom passed down to me from an AMAZING personal trainer (former bodybuilder, competitive swimmer, and 50-year old roller derby champion!)

    WHEN you eat is just as important as WHAT you eat. Eating the "right" food isn't enough... you have to eat the right food at the right time.

    1. It's wise to eat a big breakfast (more than 1/3 of your daily cal intake), and CRITICAL to do so with within an hour of waking. Breakfast is an especially important time to give your body the carbs it needs to get through the day. It's like gassing up your car before you go on a road trip... you need the fuel!

    2. If you're doing any resistance training (and you should be) then your body NEEDS protein immediately afterword. Resistance training breaks down the muscle (essentially injuring it), so your body needs new raw materials to re-build that muscle. Get at least 20 grams of protein in your system within 30 minutes of completing your exercise. Protein shakes aren't just for body builders... they're for anyone who wants their muscles to do their fat-burning for them!

    3. When you're asleep, you want your body to be burning FAT, not burning the food you've eaten, right? A great way to accomplish this is by cutting or severely limiting carbs after lunch. Would you fill up your gas tank right before you go on a 1-month vacation? Of course not! So why would your body need a bunch of energy (i.e. carbs) before bed?! If you're going to have bread or pasta, eat it before 3pm, and save your last meal of the day for protein, vitamin, and mineral restoration (meat and veggies).

    A quick summary:
    Eat breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, and dinner like a pauper... Front-load your carbs so that your body burns fat, not food, while you're asleep.

    Best of luck!

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    Best of Luck!
  • adietron
    adietron Posts: 155
    If it works for you, that is great! Way to go taking control of your health. I love eating lots of small meals and snacks. I have lost over 8 lbs in just over 3 weeks doing it. It may not work for everyone, but I'm not eating for everyone.
    Thanks lady! That was kind of the point of my post, it was a little surprising to see the directions people chose to take it. I appreciate the opportunity for dialogue, fact-sharing, and most importantly, support from other health-minded folks, so thanks for sharing your success with us!
  • adietron
    adietron Posts: 155
    Here's a fun study

    Sofer S, et al. Greater weight loss and hormonal changes after 6 months diet with carbohydrates eaten mostly at dinner. Obesity, 2011 Apr 7.

    http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/v19/n10/full/oby201148a.html

    Method: The experimental group was prescribed a standard low-calorie diet (20% protein, 30–35% fat, 45–50% carbohydrates, 1,300–1,500 kcal) providing carbohydrates mostly at dinner, whereas the control group received a standard low-calorie diet (20% protein, 30–35% fat, 45–50% carbohydrates, 1,300–1,500 kcal), providing carbohydrates throughout the day.

    Result: Significantly greater weight loss was observed in the experimental group vs. the control group at the end of the study (11.6 vs. 9.06 kg).

    Interpretation: Carbs at dinner can help an obese person lose 25 pounds instead of 19. Myself (and probably others reading this) don't fall into the obese group. These results should be interpreted with caution, when applying them to a demographic of anyone who is not obese.
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    Here's a fun study

    Sofer S, et al. Greater weight loss and hormonal changes after 6 months diet with carbohydrates eaten mostly at dinner. Obesity, 2011 Apr 7.

    http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/v19/n10/full/oby201148a.html

    Method: The experimental group was prescribed a standard low-calorie diet (20% protein, 30–35% fat, 45–50% carbohydrates, 1,300–1,500 kcal) providing carbohydrates mostly at dinner, whereas the control group received a standard low-calorie diet (20% protein, 30–35% fat, 45–50% carbohydrates, 1,300–1,500 kcal), providing carbohydrates throughout the day.

    Result: Significantly greater weight loss was observed in the experimental group vs. the control group at the end of the study (11.6 vs. 9.06 kg).

    Interpretation: Carbs at dinner can help an obese person lose 25 pounds instead of 19. Myself (and probably others reading this) don't fall into the obese group. These results should be interpreted with caution, when applying them to a demographic of anyone who is not obese.

    following Intermittent Fasting, where I skip breakfast and have 3-4 huge meals, I eat quite a few carbs at night and lost fat while maintaining lean mass. Obese or not its okay to eat carbs at night! http://www.leangains.com/search/label/Fat Loss
  • iluxoxo211
    iluxoxo211 Posts: 241 Member
    Thanks for the post! I have been a late night snacker for years..terrible habit! =/
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