question for the ladies be honest here?

I'm a firm believer in giving someone a chance to have a conversation so that I can see what kind of focus they have. I learned a long time ago that looks only get you so far. I was in the military for almost 10 years and I know well enough that those pretty features can become disfigured in the blink of an eye...sooo to sum it all up I WILL TAKE BRAINS OVER BRAWN ANYDAY

Average? average is good.. I'm not expecting someone to walk in looking like vin diesel (;
Lol & if he has a great personality that's even better. Most girls aren't that shallow..

I like average guys. If I had a guy that was perfect, high maintenance I probably couldnt keep up..
We'd be on totally different pages.

Besides It's all about the chemistry baby! (well,mostly) lol

I can only speak for myself and my friends I know, but generally we go for the "average joe" type guys. One of my friends said she goes for average looking guys because the "good looking" guys tend to be jerks. For me, If the guy has a good sense of humor, is respectful, and fun to talk to, I automatically find him attractive regardless of his "average" looks. When I first meet a guy, I pay more attention to how he carries himself and what "vibe" I get from him than what his face and body looks like.

A great attitude definitely makes even the most average looking man super sexy!! Looks do play a role, but it is all about being comfortable with the person you are, and knowing that the person you seek isn't going to be above you, and you surely aren't going to be below.... afterall, you can't truly love anyone properly, unless you love yourself first.

ahhh ... yeah ... it makes a difference ... real talk ... if i aint attracted to what i see ... well ahh ...

Looks, yea they play a factor. Personality, compatibility, humor, brains, etc are the deal breakers. Personally I know know a couple "hott" guys that should never talk because they just instantly because ugly and unbearable.

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Do you Mr. Average Joe give the woman that just walked with a flat behind but giving you the eye the time of the day?

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aesthetics matter.

ambition matters.

intelligence matters.

personality matters.

If someone "scores" really well in one of those areas but not the other three? Nope. So if the average guy approaches me at a bar, I might let him buy me a drink. I might chat with him for a bit. But I'm already looking over his shoulder at the gorgeous 6 foot beautiful man with the slightly disheveled business suit playing pool with his buddies.
If he has all the other three things going on, then he might win me over. but i'm sneaking a peek over his shoulder to see what he tips the bartender, i'm calculating the cost and effort of his wardrobe, and i'm listening for clues that he might live at home with mom and dad and not know what it's like to have a job.

I'm not a gold digger. I don't care if "my man" doesn't spend one dime on me as long as he still finds ways to let me know he's interested, etc. I'm not shallow, I don't mind if his friends are hotter than he is. And I'm not looking for someone to take care of me. I just want to know that
a) he doesn't feel entitled to life's luxuries.
b) if he's going to a bar with the intent to meet a girl, he has most likely spent an hour or two in the bathroom in front of a mirror trying to acheive just the right blend of "yeah. you know I'm sexy" and "who, me? I woke up looking this good". So if he walks up to me looking like he's worn the same clothes for days, i'll pass.
c) if he lives with mom and dad, they had better be ill and guests in a home he owns. or he should be holding down a job and school and taking advantage of mom's cooking. I can deal with that at my age.

Of course looks matter but not as much as personality. I personaly used to be the girl that only wanted the super hot guys but found out really quick that they are usually way over confident in them selves which makes the hotness fade away so fast. I have to have a guy that cares about me as well and is not alway concerned about himself. I would rather have a man who is not so hot with a great personality than a jerk with a nice face.

if he can make us laugh we dont realy give a $&(% about the rest

Maybe it's not the average type body that turns them off...maybe it's because you're calling them "chicks"... :-) All jokes aside, when I get my body back in shape, I think I will still listen to what the man has to say. After all, looks and bodies change.

It really does depend on their attitude & personality. I've talked to some fine specimens who were actually really cool, which made them more attractive. There are also the guys that know they're gorgeous & are arrogant about it, not so attractive. I've also met some everage joes that thought they were God's gift to women for some reason. But for the most part, average joes are great in my book because they're usually pretty cool people

of course this is an awesome quote. " You know when sometimes you meet someone so beautiful — and then you actually talk with them, and five minutes later they're as dull as a brick. But then there's other people, and you meet them and you think: "Not bad, they're okay," and then you get to know them, and their face sort of becomes them, like their personality's written all over it; and they just — and they turn into something so beautiful."

if your a chick with a nice body
you know big butt what ever
so when you look at an average Joe and he tries to get with you
right away do you think i can do way better and not give him a chance
or you listen what he has to offer

do looks play a big role in your relationship

So I don't apply because I don't have a nice body (yet) or a nice butt (yet) but as for me, I don't judge a guy first thing off his looks. Personality matters. A good personality is what makes a man sexy. Period.