The ugly question that must be asked

My personal opinion is that even though you used to be regular...u still weren't flushing ALL that needed to be flushed out...the result was bloating. After eating high fiber for several days, you finally got rid of everything you needed to thus getting rid of the bloat. If you are burning more calories than taking in you will lose weight...despite how much you poop out. But if you are retaining to much waste, you're tummy may not show all of your hard work till you properly dispose

I tried a similar experiment where I decided to get 75% of my fiber from beans. 3 days no go. I was bloated. I drank what. I little movement but not much. I at popcorn. The damn busted. You have to get the right combinations of fiber also. For me it seems to be popcorn and fibrous fruits and vegies. It may be something different for you. (Oh and I lost the 3 pounds that I should have lost but refused to go away.)

Fat that you eat, Hamburger. lets say. Goes into your digestive tract. Depending on how quickly you pass it among other things determans how much of that fat is absorbed into your body/blood stream.
Fat that isn't absorbed, continues through your intestines, colon ext and exits.

Maybe I'm slow, but isn't that what I was surmising? More fiber (to a point, of course) expels the fat faster and therefore less of the fat is absorbed into your body.

Is that what you are saying?

Yep, that is true! Fiber makes (a bit) more of the fat you eat pass right through you, by both absorbing it and speeding up its going through your system. Fiber is also good for weight loss because it's not rich in energy but makes you feel full for a longer time...

Terence
Yes that is what I am saying. I just wanted to make the distinction about where the fat was comming from, it can prevent absorbtion; it doesn't pull the fat from your body. Probably the best way to prevent fat absorbtion is to not eat it in the first place.

On a side note... IF YOU REALLY want to prevent fat absorbtion you should try Giardia. LOL. I got Giardia once from my dog, it was the best diet I've ever been on... except the whole violently ill part. :laugh:

when you go into ketosis you pee off fat,,,,,,,,diabetics get keytones in urine and it is dangerous
dieters get keytones and it is helpful.....you can measure your keytones with keytone sticks in the diabetes section of your local wal mart walgreens cvs place

you get keytones buy going no carb.....or very little carb.....downfall to low carb no carb...once you get below 100 grams of carbs per day you suffer from headaches, mental confusion, cloudy thoughths inability to concentrate and stay focused and so on....


no you dont have greasy peepee.....

or so I have been told.....I am not a dr.....just an obesity survivor, fighting a re-gain

when you go into ketosis you pee off fat,,,,,,,,diabetics get keytones in urine and it is dangerous
dieters get keytones and it is helpful

This sounds very interesting but "ketosis"? "Keytones"?

Can you explain a bit more.

Here is something that says it better than I could:

"What is Ketosis?
By Laura Dolson, About.com
Updated: July 05, 2008

Question: What is Ketosis?
Answer: A lot of people are confused by the term "ketosis." You may read that it is a "dangerous state" for the body, and it does sound abnormal to be "in ketosis." But ketosis merely means that our bodies are using fat for energy. Ketones (also called ketone bodies) are molecules generated during fat metabolism, whether from the fat in the guacamole you just ate or fat you were carrying around your middle. When our bodies are breaking down fat for energy, most of the it gets converted more or less directly to ATP. (Remember high school biology? This is the "energy molecule.") But ketones are also produced as part of the process.

When people eat less carbohydrate, their bodies turn to fat for energy, so it makes sense that more ketones are generated. Some of those ketones (acetoacetate and ß-hydroxybutyrate) are used for energy; the heart muscle and kidneys, for example, prefer ketones to glucose. Most cells, including the brain cells, are able to use ketones for at least part of their energy. But there is one type of ketone molecule, called acetone, that cannot be used and is excreted as waste, mostly in the urine and breath (sometimes causing a distinct breath odor).

If enough acetone is in our urine, it can be detected using a dipstick commonly called by the brand name Ketostix (though there are other brands, as well). Even though everyone is generating ketones continuously, this detection in the urine is what is commonly called "ketosis."

The higher the concentration of ketones in the urine, the more purple the sticks will turn. The Atkins Diet, in particular, advises people to monitor ketosis as an indication of fat burning. Other reduced carbohydrate diets don't pay much attention to this, or aren't low enough in carbs to make much of an impression on the sticks. (The latter type of diet is sometimes called a "nonketogenic" low-carb diet.) "

not sure how many carbs are needed just to be......

ketosis and keytones cause my neice pure hell, she is 14 and type 1 has been since age 2. When she has lrg keytones the school calls and she has to come home and monitor her sugar sit still and drink water. She is on an insulin pump and my sister monitors her very closely.

I have keytone strips, they cost about 10 bucks for a container. You pee on it match the color and see if you have zero to large in your urine.

I did find this but you how info varies on the web


Grams of carbs recommended per day
If you ARE trying to lose weight, 20 - 60 grams are recommended depending on your level of activity. If you are trying to lose weight, see the relevant page link, further down this page, listed under Related Links.


If you are NOT trying to lose weight, 180 - 230 grams are sometimes recommended. However, for health there is no minimum daily requirement of carbohydrate.

More input

If you are not trying to lose weight, the number of carbohydrates you can consume on a daily basis depends on how many calories you intake in a day. For a person who is just doing a regular amount of activity (intaking between 1,600 calories and 2,200), carbohydrate intake is more (around 65%) whereas fat intake is lower (20%) but if the person has a higher calorie intake such as 3,000-4,000 that does long-distance running, etc...the person will need less carbohydrates (55%) and more fats (30%. There isn't a raw number of carbohydrates to intake because the amount of exercise a person does depends essentially how much aerobic activity is done. For athletes, the most important carbohydrate is the complex ones (glycogen) such as oats, fruits, vegetables..anything fiber mainly, potatoes, pasta, bread, cereal. But you have to watch out, carbohydrates are easily over-consumed.

If you are not trying to lose weight, the amount of any food per day is subjective to the following: age, health conditions, pysical activity(calorie expenditure per day) There are many other minor factors which may determine the amount of calories and carbs that a person needs. So based on the law of individualism, each individual is unique and their needs are different based on various factors.

It depends on how many calories/day diet you maintain. 45% of your daily intake should be carbs. On a 1600 calorie a day diet 720 calories should come from carbs. Or about 180 grams. The important thing is what KIND of carbs.

Further input

I recently reconstructed my diet and lost 30 lbs in about 10 months and 2 inches off my waist. I base my food plan on these three rules: Calories must be less than or between 1000 and 1500. Grams of fat must never exceed 35g. Grams of carbohydrate cannot exceed 100 for a maintenance diet once the weight has been lost. I do not limit the kinds of food that I can eat only the amount. I eat snacks during the day and drink between 2 and 4 4 liters of water. I also have a strict exercise schedule.

Further input

Stay away from refined (processed) carbohydrates. Do not eat white bread, white pasta, white potatoes or white rice. These foods are VERY high glycemic and will spike your blood sugar which will make you hungry again much quicker. Add fiber to your diet (which you will automatically do if you switch to whole grain carbs) and eat 5-6 small "meals" during the day instead of 3 big meals. You will never be hungry and will shed pounds like mad. For more details, look for Dr. Ray Strand's book Releasing Fat. It is excellent.


For those who ARE trying to lose weight:

Unlike protein and fats, there is no minimum daily requirement of carbohydrate in order to flourish physically. If you are interested in carbohydrates in relation to weight loss, there is, however, a maximum recommendation.

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Answer
The nature of the Atkins diet is to force the body to burn fats and proteins as it's energy source as opposed to carbohydrates. The body will breakdown these molecules into 2-carbon chains faster than the Krebb's Cycle can use them to produce ATP and free electrons (read up about cellular respiration for a better explaination). As a result, many of the 2-carbon chains are excreted as Ketones. Side effects: 1. Ketones STINK. If your liver is producing Ketones it's a sure thing that your breath is going to stink as well. 2. Atkins can rob you of energy, especially mental energy and stamina. Your brain works best when in runs on carbohydrates. If your brain does not get enough carbohydrates it will break down the proteins in your body. 3. Not only does this rob you of energy, you'll also lose lean body mass (aka muscle) 4. Without fiber (a carbohydrate)your digestive system is bound to slow down. Don't expect too many bowel movements while eating your bacon and cheese burgers.


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Well put by the above poster. I just wanted to add I saw a program on the Atkins diet and it's a dangerous one because of high fat intake. There are simply good/bad fats, but according to the Atkins diet you can eat anything you want fat or not (and that is what some over-weight people want to hear because they hate the word "diet.") The two best diets (or training of good eating habits) is Weight Watchers and the South Beach Diet.



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There is absolutely no evidence to support an increase of incidence of bad breath in low carbers....What about Atkins followers who dont have bad breath. Atkins or not, you may or may not have bad breath. Far more people are energised. Low carb eating encourages the body to use fat stores as the energy source after carbs, any other way has the body use mostly muscle. "without fibre your digestive system is bound to slow down".... Your digestive system has no set speed Peristalsis is affected by ANY food and lubrication entering the system. Fibre is merely a natural cleansing irritant, natures laxative. Low carbers should get their fibre from vegetables and if necessary drink more water to aid digestion. Low carbers may well have less movements as they are eating less rubbish. Atkins is not a high fat diet....please some time to find out what they are in fact advocating...no=where in Atkins does it suggest such bad dietry instruction.

"according to the Atkins diet you can eat anything you want fat or not".....no it doesnt. I can only assume that these comments are made by people who have neither read the Atkins books themselves nor visited the Atkins web site as the comments attributed to Atkins can not be found at source


dont know if it helps at all. I am clueless but learning more each day I wake up.

tammy

when asked the interweb how much excrement the human body holds this is what I got........

The average person can have between 4-25 pounds of "built-up" intestinal matter in their colon- factors

effecting this number are your metabolism, diet, genetics and rate of bowel movements. The general term for feces stuck in the human body is mucoid crap.
A doctor can remove some of this build-up with a colon cleansing.

and also thisPeople tend to think that once you have a cleansed colon, you may also lose weight. This notion may be right after all. Take time to look at the reasons why the concepts of colon cleansing and weight loss go together.

Overweight is often times the culprit to hemorrhoid build-up. Hemorrhoids, on the other hand, could be cured through the aid of colon cleansers. But how are the terms colon cleansing and weight loss intertwined? Do they really go together or is it just part of your state of mind?

Colon cleansing and weight loss

Colon cleansers were specifically made to treat digestive tract problems and in the event of severity, to prevent you from acquiring colon cancer. On a lighter and an added benefit, weight loss could be a result of the intake of such products, whether made from your own homes or bought over the counter. Here are some facts that could help you understand the connection:

• Fiber content. Most colon cleansers contain fiber as the latter is known to contribute a lot of benefits extended to regular bowel movement. Accept that when you have irregularities on your bowel, your stomach tends to feel heavy and it thus add weight. With the help of colon cleansing products, you will surely eliminate that weight concern. Getting aid from your kitchen is advantageous as well. Start by eating fruits and vegetables.

• Toxin build-up. Once you have digestive tract problems, it follows that toxic materials build-up on your system. Without going to your toilets regularly for the mere purpose of bowel movement, these toxins could build-up in your body thus giving you a very alarming body figure. Since colon cleansing is a good way to eliminate these unwanted wastes, the tendency is that you will lose weight as well.

• Blockage of fecal passage. This may sound unrealistic, but believe it or not, studies showed that unwanted wastes which build up in the body contribute to 10 to 15 pounds of additional body weight. Once your *kitten* are blocked with feces, you will definitely have more weight for yourself. With colon cleansing, you will surely get rid of this in around seven to ten days. This will then lead to weight loss.

Other essential facts on colon cleanse and weight loss

Amazingly, a lot of colon cleanse products in the market today promises results extended to weight loss. This is guaranteed to be favorable to most patients with weight concerns. You need not be afraid of having a dreaded disease associated with your clogged colon as well as you need not be bothered of shedding extra pounds from your body.

Colon cleansing and body weight reduction definitely goes hand-in-hand. The results of taking colon cleansers lead to possibilities of weight loss. You may not see it for yourselves in a few days however after several weeks or so, you will be surprised at how much weight you have lost. But, don’t ever attempt to take over-the-counter colon cleansers unless you have problems with your bowel movement. Don’t use it as a reason for eliminating weight.