Breakfast - a waste of calories?

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  • HonkyTonks
    HonkyTonks Posts: 1,193 Member
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    Well, there is a reason why the breakfast is said to be "the most important meal". Whether you are running or sleeping, you burn calories. You BMR is in fact the higher calorie burner in a given day, and that doesn't stop while you are sleeping. You need to eat stuff to stop the catabolism (your body getting nutrients from its reserves) back into anabolism (repairing muscles from workouts, etc).

    Just another step to a better health in general, and a very easy way to experience better rest and recovery days in general.

    You're not going to start withering away by not eating for another 4 hours or so until lunch. Breakfast isn't needed.

    Well of course that is not that fast, but the benefit exists, however small they may be for a non athlete. The reverse though, the benefits or not eating breakfast is not shown anywhere. Ignoring a small benefit definitely won't kill you though, and probably won't affect your life if you are not specifically working out seriously, but you can't just go and say it's useless, because it is not :p

    There have been studies that going for quite a while (eg fasting) up to a point has additional fat burning benefits, as well as good for your overall health. So I guess one could say that in that sense skipping breakfast might bring you health benefits. There are other studies that show a link between skipping meals and obesity, however, I think that is more to do with compensating for skipped meals with high calorie meals.
  • mswillems
    mswillems Posts: 11 Member
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    For the longest time I struggled with finding something that didn't make me feel awful after eating it, but the experts say you need breakfast. So I would eat something... eggs, oatmeal, cereal, toast, yogurt, but always felt sickly after. For the last week I have actually been either skipping breakfast or having a cup of watermelon. I feel sooo much better and go into my workout with more energy. Then I have a spinach/carrot/almond milk/protein shake after my workout.
  • JadeRabbit08
    JadeRabbit08 Posts: 551 Member
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    The bulk of my calories are eaten at 1st and second breakfast. I love it. I have dinner at breakfast time. So its usually a huge salad and cooked chicken and brown rice. Second breakfast is 2 to 3 frozen bananas with almond milk and raw cacao thrown into a blender. {Thickshake for breakfast yes I know its wrong. :) }

    Anywhere between 800 to 100 calories all up. It took a while to build up to that level of calories. I feel great. I often have busy days with only time to grab some raw almonds and a piece of fruit during the day so I appreciate the energy.
  • jj3120
    jj3120 Posts: 358
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    I think it's a matter of choice and doesn't matter as long as your eating enough and the right foods!

    Personally I am starving when I wake up!! I could probably eat all my calories at the beginning of the day and wouldn't be bothered later on!! I usually have a big bowl of porridge in the morning with various toppings of nuts/fruits/yogurt.
  • HonkyTonks
    HonkyTonks Posts: 1,193 Member
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    The bulk of my calories are eaten at 1st and second breakfast. I love it. I have dinner at breakfast time. So its usually a huge salad and cooked chicken and brown rice. Second breakfast is 2 to 3 frozen bananas with almond milk and raw cacao thrown into a blender. {Thickshake for breakfast yes I know its wrong. :) }

    Anywhere between 800 to 100 calories all up. It took a while to build up to that level of calories. I feel great. I often have busy days with only time to grab some raw almonds and a piece of fruit during the day so I appreciate the energy.

    That thickshake looks yummy
  • foxbat2828
    foxbat2828 Posts: 391 Member
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    Don't look at breakfast as a benefit from the value of enjoyed calories if you aren't a big breakfast fan ... instead, look at it as the start to losing/maintaining weight each and every day.

    By the time you wake up and get your day finally started, your body has probably gone between 8-12 hours without anything driving its engine. Do this too often and you body starts making changes and converting food more quickly to fat stores that it can use to cover these "deficient" periods.. Your metabolism gets into a pattern of realizing that "it's on its own" with regard to providing for energy needs ... especially as you day kicks off.

    I've never really been a big breakfast person, at least not since I was in junior high, and it's taken a lot for me to break that habit. Even today, I still have to consciously remind myself and push myself to do breakfast in some form as I'm usually not hungry in the morning. Couple that with having reduced calories and, like the OP, I would also try to hoard my calories for later meals. With that said, I've since become a believer in the idea that breakfast is the most important meal of the day even though it's my least favorite. I've often stalled out on weight loss when I don't eat breakfast and go into mini-plateaus. Once I get back on eating breakfast, the weight starts coming off again doing nothing else differently.

    Breakfast doesn't have to be a big meal, but should certainly focus on proteins to jump-start your metabolism engine. Something as simple as a handful of almonds in the morning gives you 6 grams of protein, 3 grams of fiber, and while high in fat, they are are high in the good fats, mono-/poly- and low in saturated fats ... about 1 gram of saturated in an ounce. They also come in a variety of flavors like chocolate mint, butter toffee, hickory smoked, so whether you want something sweet or savory, they've got you covered. I also make my own sausage/biscuits with Banquet turkey sausage links and Pillsbury country biscuits ... the little ones that come 10 to a can. Three biscuits and three sausage links work out to 250 calories, 12 grams of protein, and 2 grams of saturated fat. Really light starts to the day that will kick-start your metabolism without weighing you down in the morning if you aren't a big breakfast fan.
  • CaseRat
    CaseRat Posts: 377 Member
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    Well, there is a reason why the breakfast is said to be "the most important meal". Whether you are running or sleeping, you burn calories. You BMR is in fact the higher calorie burner in a given day, and that doesn't stop while you are sleeping. You need to eat stuff to stop the catabolism (your body getting nutrients from its reserves) back into anabolism (repairing muscles from workouts, etc).

    Just another step to a better health in general, and a very easy way to experience better rest and recovery days in general.

    You're not going to start withering away by not eating for another 4 hours or so until lunch. Breakfast isn't needed.

    Well of course that is not that fast, but the benefit exists, however small they may be for a non athlete. The reverse though, the benefits or not eating breakfast is not shown anywhere. Ignoring a small benefit definitely won't kill you though, and probably won't affect your life if you are not specifically working out seriously, but you can't just go and say it's useless, because it is not :p

    True, but benifit of not eating breakfast not shown anywhere?
    Look up Intermittent Fasting. Plenty of results there.

    If eating breakfast makes someone feel terrible, then why make them eat it? For them, it's useless. For others, it's needed and they can't function without it. Everyone differs. I like eating; I eat breakfast.
  • dignan10276
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    By saying you think breakfast is 'a waste of calories', it demonstrates a lack of understanding of food and why we eat it. As has been said breakfast is the most important meal of the day for several reasons.

    Your body been in a state of rest all night, meaning it needs a 'kick start' to have you functioning properly. By eating breakfast, you not only fuel your body for the day, it also gets your metabolism going to start burning those calories straight away. If you try and function on an empty tank, it just starts a chain reaction off that will set back all of your attempts to lose weight.

    By not eating breakfast, you are effectivey running on empty until lunch, meaning when you do eat, you will want more and in between times, your body will crave sweet or carb laden food to get you going, thus making sticking to any diet more difficult and you more prone to eating 'bad' foods and falling off the wagon. This will continue through the day as your body is always playing catch up, until you have your last meal at night, maybe even being hungry before bed, thereby making you eat late at night when your body is supposed to be shutting down for the night.

    That then means your body is forced into working overtime during the night, when it is supposed to be resting and this results in poorer sleep quality and more lethargy when you do wake up, at which point you exacerbate it by not eating to get you going again, and then you start the whole cycle off again.

    By eating breakfast, you not only give yourself a greater chance of losing weight, but also less risk of wanting to eat the crappy foods that set you back.

    I can easily go without eating breakfast, and did for years but now I don't, I make sure I have something, however small and my sleep is better, I eat less and can get by easily, without feeling hungry, on 1200 calories a day. I am a 36 yr old male who weighs 175lbs and have lost 30lbs in 4 months with little effort or will power just by following a eat better, eat regulalrly, move more diet.

    Seriously, behaving like a squirrell harevesting calories like nuts is not a healthy attitude towards food and is totally counter-productive.
  • DellG85
    DellG85 Posts: 79 Member
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    Breakfast isn't a necessity. Health 'experts' say that it's the most important meal, and there's the whole myth about breakfast skippers being fatter, but that's simply because most people that don't eat breakfast tend to pig out and eat more throughout the rest of the day.
    I dont think it's a case of tending to pig out through the day, I think it's a case of skipping meals and therefore slowing your metabolism, making it much more difficult to lose weight.

    As a recovering eating disorder sufferer, it blows my mind to see people on here encourage others to fast. I'm sorry, but no-one will ever be able to tell me fasting in any way, shape or form is good for them. That will never wash with me. As Morgan said, you cant run a car with no fuel, so how can you expect to run your body with no food?

    For me personally, I workout on a morning so breakfast is very important even if Im not hungry. I cant workout without something in my system, I really lag badly. BUT if you don't want to eat it, it's a personal choice and so long as your cal intake is spot on throughout the day, all well and good x
  • MrsR0SE
    MrsR0SE Posts: 341 Member
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    I need my breakfast. If I don't, I will eat rubbish mid-morning. But if you don't, I wouldn't worry about it and eat when you're ready for it.

    I'm exactly the same - if I miss breakfast I'm tempted to snack and eat all morning, so I'm trying to always eat something like porrige to keep me going and keep temptation at bay!
  • vim_n_vigor
    vim_n_vigor Posts: 4,089 Member
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    If I am hungry for breakfast, I eat it, if not, I eat the calories later. The days that I workout at 5 am, I usually need something by 9 am though.
  • wjkfloyd
    wjkfloyd Posts: 125
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    Breakfast jump starts your metabolism...it should be your largest caloric meal of the day. You will maximize your body's own calorie/fat burning.
  • ericgAU
    ericgAU Posts: 271
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    My wife is exactly the same. I've only just started to convince her that having breakfast would be a great big start in her own quest to lose weight. I know experts espouse the virtues of breakfast blah, blah, blah but its actually so vitally important for everyones maintenance of health that overlooking it is a recipe for weight gain and other health issues. I would train yourself to have even just a slice of toast or a piece of fruit. I think you'll find that once you kick start your metabolism you will eventually include breakfast daily and start eating more substantial meals. Good luck!
  • soulynyc
    soulynyc Posts: 302 Member
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    i think breakfast is a way to break your fast. You are actually fasting when you are sleep. most people fast from about say 10-7 or 8 in the am.. that is a long time. I love breakfast i tend to have it within an hour of waking up. just think of it as training your body to eat every few hours.
  • shellyt1
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    I need to eat breakfast but cereal doens't cut it so more protein base even if it is a hard boiled egg or greek yogurt with fruit. Most of the time it is later in the morning if I work in the afternoon.
  • Hambone23
    Hambone23 Posts: 486 Member
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    I've never, ever been a breakfast eater. But since starting MFP, I've begun to eat breakfast. Not a ton, but I find I don't need a morning snack and it gets me to lunch. So I feel like I'm saving calories in the long run. Plus, I just feel like I honestly have more energy. But I do extremely simple breakfasts with high protein, or good fats. Greek yogurt. Avocado toast. Boiled eggs. Cottage cheese. Takes no time to make and grab. I'm a very low maintenance breakfast eater. I couldn't do it otherwise. And my body has gotten used to being appropriately hungery about an hour after I get up. So it feels like my eating is falling into a more natural rhythm. Your mileage may vary, of course.
  • JadeRabbit08
    JadeRabbit08 Posts: 551 Member
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    That thickshake looks yummy

    So try it if you have a blender. Hits the icecream craving on the head too. if you want it really thick so you eat it with a spoon add ice cubes.

    I use to eat 2 pieces of toast with vegemite and a coffee for breakfast. I have definatly changed how I eat and I love the food I eat now. I am going to finish off the kangaroo from tonights dinner for breakie tomorrow. Mmmmmm skippy! :)
  • CaseRat
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    Breakfast isn't a necessity. Health 'experts' say that it's the most important meal, and there's the whole myth about breakfast skippers being fatter, but that's simply because most people that don't eat breakfast tend to pig out and eat more throughout the rest of the day.
    I dont think it's a case of tending to pig out through the day, I think it's a case of skipping meals and therefore slowing your metabolism, making it much more difficult to lose weight.

    As a recovering eating disorder sufferer, it blows my mind to see people on here encourage others to fast. I'm sorry, but no-one will ever be able to tell me fasting in any way, shape or form is good for them. That will never wash with me. As Morgan said, you cant run a car with no fuel, so how can you expect to run your body with no food?

    For me personally, I workout on a morning so breakfast is very important even if Im not hungry. I cant workout without something in my system, I really lag badly. BUT if you don't want to eat it, it's a personal choice and so long as your cal intake is spot on throughout the day, all well and good x

    I'm not encouraging others to fast. I'm telling her that it doesn't matter if you eat breakfast or not. If it makes you feel terrible, simple; don't eat it. You have your opinion on fasting, clearly strong from your past, and that's okay. I have my opinion, backed by science I've spent hours researching.

    Among my research:
    "Breakfast skipping is associated with higher body weights in the population. The explanation is similar to that of lower meal frequencies and higher body weights. Breakfast skippers have dysregulated eating habits and show a higher disregard for health. People who skip breakfast are also more likely to be dieting, thus by default they are also likely to be heavier than non-dieters. Keep in mind that most people who resort to breakfast skipping are not the type that sit around and read about nutrition. They are like most people dieting in a haphazard manner. The type to go on a 800 calorie-crash diet and then rebound, gaining all the weight (and then some) back.

    Sometimes, an argument is made for eating breakfast as we are more insulin sensitive in the morning. This is true; you are always more insulin sensitive after an overnight fast. Or rather, you are always the most insulin sensitive during the first meal of the day. Insulin sensitivity is increased after glycogen depletion. If you haven't eaten in 8-10 hours, liver glycogen is modestly depleted. This is what increases insulin sensitivity - not some magical time period during the morning hours. Same thing with weight training. Insulin sensitivity is increased as long as muscle glycogen stores aren't full. It doesn't disappear if you omit carbs after your workout.

    Origin of the myth:

    First of all, we have the large scale epidemiological studies showing an association with breakfast skipping and higher body weights in the population. One researcher from that study, commenting on the association with breakfast skipping or food choices for breakfast, said:

    "These groups appear to represent people 'on the run,' eating only candy or soda, or grabbing a glass of milk or a piece of cheese. Their higher BMI would appear to
    support the notion that 'dysregulated' eating patterns are associated with obesity, instead of or in addition to total energy intake per se."

    Kellogg's and clueless RDs love to cite them over and over again, so people are lead to believe that breakfast has unique metabolic and health-related benefits. In reality, these studies just show breakfast eaters maintain better dietary habits overall.

    Other studies frequently cited claiming that breakfast is beneficial for insulin sensitivity are all marred with methodological flaws and largely uncontrolled in design.

    In one widely cited study, subjects were entrusted to eat most meals in free-living conditions. The breakfast skipping group ate more and gained weight, which affected health parameters negatively.

    From the abstract: "Reported energy intake was significantly lower in the EB period (P=0.001), and resting energy expenditure did not differ significantly between the 2 periods." EB = eating breakfast. In essence, people who ate breakfast could control their energy intake better for the rest of the day. They didn't gain any weight but the breakfast skipping group did. Fat gain always affects insulin sensitivity and other health parameters negatively. Thus what people took this to mean is that breakfast is healthy and improves insulin sensitivity. Which isn't at all what the study showed."
  • myak623
    myak623 Posts: 616 Member
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    Eating at 5, 6, 7 or 8 AM doesn't jump start anyone's metabolism. Metabolism doesn't stop. And, if you choose to wait until noon for your first meal, assuming your last meal was 6, 7, 8 or 9 PM the previous evening, then your body isn't going to slow down in that period of time. It's more like a 72 hour period before metabolism starts to slow.

    If you don't enjoy eating early in the morning, then there is no metabolic advantage to forcing yourself and you will not be stalling your weight loss efforts.
  • mmk137
    mmk137 Posts: 833 Member
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    yes people stay to start your day with breakfast. But I like to start my day with fuel.

    See I say fuel, because 3 times a week I wake up at 5.30am to do exercise. But I don't really like eating on an empty stomach. So I usually have a 100 cal meal. Like almonds or what not.
    Then I exercise.
    Then after I exercise, I have my breakfast.

    See I love breakfast, so to me, it's not a waste of calories, but it does tend to be my 'biggest meal' of the day.