Breakfast - a waste of calories?

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  • foxbat2828
    foxbat2828 Posts: 391 Member

    I was under the impression metabolism actually increased after a period of fasting. eg. that you burn more fat say 12-24 hours after not eating and then it starts to decline after the 36+ hours after you stop eating

    One of the issues with metabolism is that we often look at it as a single-dimensional item and there are many facets to it. The slow-down in metabolism coming off of sleep includes two issues at a minimum: sleep and caloric intake. Some studies have shown ties of metabolism rates to circadian rhythms, so that's the sleep issue. More of what I'm looking at, in discussing metabolism on this thread, is tied to the sleep aspect. I also believe that there are macro- and micro-versions of how metabolism is impacted. For example, most people often look at the macro-side when they talk about potential damage to the metabolism process by sub 1200-calorie diets ... which frankly I'm less inclined to use as number to watch than I am to watch dipping below BMR. I also think, however, when your body has a micro-level items that are repeated over the long haul, they can act as a macro item. For example, going half a day at a time with no eating versus 6 hours a day without eating may indeed have results that might mimic caloric-deficit eating even though it's not that the person is "starving themselves" for days on end ... thus the frustration that some have when doing "everything right" in dieting, yet hitting plateaus for various reasons.
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    Just to add - I eat breakfast mainly to feel awake - i.e. to restore cognitive function to normal levels following sleep. That's something that shouldn't be over looked.

    And fasting can be beneficial - a controlled weekly intermittent fast of 16-20 hours has a host of hormonal benefits.
  • ash190489
    ash190489 Posts: 587 Member
    Oh my goodness --- I am the complete opposite! I cannot function without breakfast. In fact, if I don't eat within the first hour of waking up I end up feeling REALLY sick. So lethargic it's not funny... I literally have to force myself to just reach and eat anything!!! At the moment I love starting my morning with a jam packed Banana Smoothie... it's sooo delicious && somehow keeps me full!!!
    1 x banana
    3/4 cup of low fat milk
    1/2 tablespoon of honey
    15-20 grams of traditional rolled oats
    Ice cubes.
    Or I have weetbix with honey & banana
    Or oats
    Or raisin toast or multigrain toast with lightly spread plum or strawberry jam
    Or a boiled egg or poached egg on multigrain toast of multigrain muffin.
    I find eating breakfast kicks start my energy and my metabolism --- but I think it really is a personal thing and you have to listen to your body. Perhaps starting the day with a light protein shake or something... least your bodies getting some nutrients and kick starting the day and it only takes a few seconds to make and it's down the hatch in no time? :smile:
  • Long2bslim
    Long2bslim Posts: 34 Member
    Personally, I can eat all day every day(thats the probelm)
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    This^^^^^^ definitely
  • alie5612
    alie5612 Posts: 76
    Everyone to their own but i found not eating breakfast i put weigh on so i eat every morning just toast then i dont eat crap at 10ish but i know ppl and they dont eat breakfast and have lost lots each to their own do what works for you
  • BRREEAAAKFAST IS THE MOST AMAZING FOOD ON THE PLANET YABBA DADA :D
  • SCOUSERWENCH
    SCOUSERWENCH Posts: 74 Member
    breakfast is to help kick start your metabolism.
  • susannamarie
    susannamarie Posts: 2,148 Member
    I need my breakfast. If I don't, I will eat rubbish mid-morning. But if you don't, I wouldn't worry about it and eat when you're ready for it.

    Ditto. If I don't eat breakfast I'm going to end up at the vending machines getting potato chips by midmorning.
    But that's me. If you're genuinely not hungry, don't worry about it.
  • btanton27
    btanton27 Posts: 186 Member
    i never used to eat breakfast but ever since i started eating healthier i make sure i do! im better off eating something small every few hours than waiting to gorge myself on a huge meal because it works better for me... it took me awhile to get into getting up a little earlier just to eat but i eat breakfast in some form every day now. usually either a smoothie with a banana and vanilla soymilk, or a eggbeater omelette with toast... love to eat lol!
  • I also Find tht if I don't eat breakfast in the morning ya tend to want to snack on foods tht are not good so for me its SPECIAL K W/ STRAWBERRIES it is filling & keeps me satisfied till lunch.....
  • Aineko
    Aineko Posts: 163
    breakfast is to help kick start your metabolism.
    just playing devil's advocate here, but - I'm pretty sure you would achieve the same if you do 10 jumping-jacks straight out of the bed :).
    how does breakfast kick start your metabolism? by thermal effect of the food or what? I mean, you have the same BMR at 10pm as at 11am, right?

    edit: I'm totally opposite from the majority here - I tend to eat less when I push my breakfast more towards the afternoon. For example, if I eat first time at 12pm I'l most likely have that moderate/big meal, one snack and then moderate/big dinner. If I eat first time around 9am, I'll have three moderate/big meals during that day (and possibly some snack).
  • jwaitman
    jwaitman Posts: 367 Member
    We had a nutritionist in our office give a presentation on this topic. She advised to eat within an hour of waking even if it is just a small something as it helps to set and regulate your blood sugar for the day. Even if you aren't diabetic this is important because you haven't eaten in a very long time. I am definitely not a nutritionist, but I have learned that eating breakfast does help me to not over eat throughout the day.

    In fact I eat many times through the day. Breakfast usually around 8:00 - 8:30 then a snack at 10ish, lunch at 12:30 maybe a quick snack at 3:00, but I don't usually do an afternoon snack and then dinner whenever I can fit it in. It works for me. I think most importantly you have to figure out what works for you.
  • 2April
    2April Posts: 285 Member
    I love breakfast but if I didn't enjoy it I wouldn't waste the calories. Everyone is different. I have twins-one loves breakfast and one is more picky when he gets up early.
  • I think part fo it has to do with age. Teens and young adults have their biological clock set later, so they tend to stay up later at night and wake later (or wish they could). As sleep goes, so does the appetite. (This is especially true with jet lag.) Older people tend to wake up earlier and be more active earlier, as well as have a better appetite earlier in the day. I'm old enough to have experienced both. I never used to eat breakfast (or, two donuts with coffee as I got to work), but now like to enjoy a good start to the day with some oatmeal or or fruit and yogurt, with a little granola sprinkled in. Lovely.
  • Breakfast foods are my favorite so eating breakfast is my favorite. Even if you don't want to waste a lot of calories on breakfast you should try eating an apple for something small with little calories just to get your metabolism started.
  • myak623
    myak623 Posts: 615 Member
    Eating at 5, 6, 7 or 8 AM doesn't jump start anyone's metabolism. Metabolism doesn't stop. And, if you choose to wait until noon for your first meal, assuming your last meal was 6, 7, 8 or 9 PM the previous evening, then your body isn't going to slow down in that period of time. It's more like a 72 hour period before metabolism starts to slow.

    If you don't enjoy eating early in the morning, then there is no metabolic advantage to forcing yourself and you will not be stalling your weight loss efforts.

    While metabolism doesn't stop, it does slow and does have "gears" throughout the day that can be tweaked. Also, while focusing on the idea of 72 hours of something, for example caloric deficit or caloric binging, making metabolism change may certainly hold, everyday of a similar pattern of 12-hour breaks in caloric intake can also causes the body to form habits as well.

    Please provide scientific studies which show where the body forms bad habits after consistently fasting for 12 hours each day.

    Also, when you bring up the topic of binging, that is more psychological than physiological and can be controlled by the person.
  • cramernh
    cramernh Posts: 3,335 Member
    No matter what I do I can't help but feel like breakfast (for me!) is a waste of calories. I know some people enjoy it, but I am neither hungry nor do I enjoy eating breakfast. So I usually don't eat it and save those calories for later in the day.

    Just wondering if there are other like minded folk who don't think much of breakfast and prefer to save their calories for later in the day?

    Or if you are a big breakfast fan, what you like about it?

    I went too many years not eating breakfast and it caused significant medical problems for me. It did take a good couple of months of forcing myself to eat something (once Ive sufficiently woken up) and now I definitely KNOW I have to eat something...
  • Phrak
    Phrak Posts: 353 Member
    So much wrong info in this thread. Your metabolism does not need a kick start in the morning as it does not shut off during the night. Also you do not need fuel for your body in the morning, it is still digesting foods from the night before and most of the people here carry enough body fat on them to sustain bodily functions for an extended fast to lunch time.

    There is no metabolic advantage to breakfast, your muscles will not fall off by skipping it. Humans would have died out a long time ago if this was actually the case.
  • 81Katz
    81Katz Posts: 7,074 Member
    I used to skip breakfast so much of the time when I was heavy. I figured I didn't need it and sometimes I truly was not hungry, but when the hunger kicked in there was a lot of mindless snacking or big lunches with awful foods and LOTS of it. Sometimes I skipped lunch too which led to awful dinner choices and late night snacking on the worst foods possible.

    Now I eat breakfast. I wake up and my body tells me I need to eat and I don't suppress that feeling my body is giving me. I usually eat within a 30 minute window of being up and awake. I can't seem to get myself going if I drag my feet about having breakfast, plus if I have put it off a bit longer than I usually do, sometimes I feel queasy in my stomach. Not good!

    Breakfast for me is a must.
  • chevy88grl
    chevy88grl Posts: 3,937 Member
    When I was overweight, I never ate breakfast. Well, I suppose that's only partially true - I would drink at least one can of Mt Dew for breakfast. I've found that I tend to feel better if I eat breakfast within 30 mins or so of waking up. I don't care if it has a metabolic benefit or not, I just feel better. I have more energy and I don't feel worn down and sluggish. I usually have around 400 calories total for breakfast (malt o meal hot cereal, coffee, creamer, banana and sometimes cottage cheese).

    Do what works best for YOU. If you don't want to eat, aren't hungry, etc - save the calories for later. :)
  • I also dont eat breakfast, ever. I usuall get up and have coffee for an hour and smoke a few cigarettes, healthy I know. I eat something small maybe 2-3 hours after getting into work.
    Everytime I have had breakfast, I felt sick or ended up eating like a pig the whole day because of it.
  • kluvit
    kluvit Posts: 435 Member
    I actually LOVE breakfast, but eating it starts the hunger cycle making it very tough to stay within calorie limits. I know I'm going to eat a substantial dinner as my husband and I cook and eat together, so there's not enough in my calorie budget to do three full meals. Skipping breakfast (or having just a 60 cal yogurt) allows me to have a light lunch then dinner w/ dessert. Eating a real breakfast means feeling like I'm starving for the rest of the day as I want a snack a few hours later, but I only have enough calories left for a very light lunch and dinner with no dessert.
  • Zichu
    Zichu Posts: 542 Member
    I love breakfast :D

    I either have an Omelette with Bell Peppers, Onions and Mushrooms with some turkey sausage and baked beans on the side. The beans are reduced in sugar and salt, so it's all good.

    OR

    Ready Brek with either Skimmed or Whole milk, depending on what we have left... If I am using Whole milk, I usually use 100ml of it and at 75ml of water. I add some cinnamon and some sweetener.

    OR

    Scrambled Egg, Turkey Sausage and Baked Beans.

    OR

    A few rounds of wheatgerm toast with peanut butter.

    This all depends on how late I have breakfast. If it's early, I will have a big breakfast, if it's late I usually have the toast or ready brek.
  • I do my Insanity workout on empty. After that, I'm glad for my porridge :smile:
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Breakfast is a personal preference, no need for it if you're not hungry

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  • bettyclv
    bettyclv Posts: 31 Member
    Breakfast for me is a forced issue, I at one time use to skip it, but my nutritionist advised against it, because there are essential nutrients needed in the morning to get us through the day. Skipping caused me to overeat either later in the day or I would have late night snacking because for the most part I am not in bed at the latest until 11. So now I manage to have something if it is not anything but some oatmeal and toast or like today just a small bowl of cereal, healthy of course and a apple and some water and hot tea with lemon and sugar. And I find having something helps me to cut calories as well as fat throughout my day. I also do the slimfast thing when Im busy and on the run in the mornings. No breakfast works well for some, and I am not against it all, it just helps me to make it through successfully for now. Once my body changes then I feel as if I can save my morning calories and fat for later and no over eat later. Working out is a help too, because it not only burns the calories and fat, it helps you to stay more aware of every morsel you put in your mouth throughout the day...only because who wants to waste the time and energy it took to burn off those calories...Be blessed and Congrats on your continued weight loss success ^5...high five
  • SPBROOKS68
    SPBROOKS68 Posts: 561 Member
    I always wake up starving so I always eat breakfast + being a type 1 diabetic - If I skip meals then my sugar drops and correcting it means junk food or sugar :(
  • Donnacoach
    Donnacoach Posts: 540 Member
    I have always eaten breakfast and made sure my kids always had a healthy breakfast waiting for them every morning before school. It fuels the body to start your day.
  • bettyclv
    bettyclv Posts: 31 Member
    same here and I agree, it does help with the struggle of over eating later in the day or the body craving that extra fat or missing that protein that gives us that full feeling....True the body can survive longer without food, because it is the water that we can not live without,eating right foods at the right time is essential to your muscle mass especially if you are working out and trying to lose as well as tone.
  • stellaskies
    stellaskies Posts: 161 Member
    The only reason I eat breakfast is 1. to wake myself up 2. so I can get my bowels going. That's it. I think breakfast food is pretty gross.