Beachbody program HELP!

stronglifts 5x5 is a strength program for bulking, not for getting a beach body

This is not true at all.

After doing Chalean Extreme, some of NROL, and now StrongLifts, I can tell you that althoughmost of the exercises in CLX are pretty fun and challenging, they aren't really full-body compound lifts. I can't tell you how different a squat with dumbbells is from a barbell squat. SO different. StrongLifts so far has been my favorite.

ive no idea what Chalean Extreme or NROL is tbh. but i do know alot about 5x5 programs as i use them every Autum/winter during my bulking phase. I can tell you that in order for a 5x5 program to work, you need to be in a calorific excess as the point of the program is to build strength and muscle. without the cal excess you wont have the nutrition for build the muscle.
if you want a lean beach body you dont want to be in a calorific excess and using a 5x5 program cause this will result in some inevitable fat gain.
things like a High rep/low weight routine, Circuit training or HIIT combined with a calorific deficit is better to shred the excess fat and get a lean beach body imo.

Bro you're half right and also half wrong. First of all you don't need to be in a calorie surplus to gain strength. To build muscle tissue yes, but not strength. 5x5 programs can be used to get leaner as it's a heavy lifting routine in which both men and women can use it to retain as much LBM as possible even while dieting and eating a calorie deficit to lose weight.

Shredding fat is 95% diet. The lifting programs out there (like 5x5's) are to retain LBM while dieting.

dunno I'd probably call him 99% wrong? Half is generous. How exactly am I going to bulk doing a 5x5 program and not eating a surplus? Oh and if the answer is that you just can't DO 5x5 without eating a surplus then I am apparently using some kind of magical non-muscle related power to do so because on Sat I did 5x5 135lb squats with no problem.

I am just starting P90X and I have not done the other one. I like P90X but some of the work outs I hate. You will need a set of dumbbells and either bands for pull ups or some type of pull up bar for above your door that you can use.

Autum/Winter - Low Reps, High weight, No cardio, Loads of food = building muscle
Spring Summer - High Reps, Lower Weight, loads of cardio, less food = beach body

this has worked for me for years mate.

stronglifts 5x5 is a strength program for bulking, not for getting a beach body

This is not true at all.

After doing Chalean Extreme, some of NROL, and now StrongLifts, I can tell you that althoughmost of the exercises in CLX are pretty fun and challenging, they aren't really full-body compound lifts. I can't tell you how different a squat with dumbbells is from a barbell squat. SO different. StrongLifts so far has been my favorite.

ive no idea what Chalean Extreme or NROL is tbh. but i do know alot about 5x5 programs as i use them every Autum/winter during my bulking phase. I can tell you that in order for a 5x5 program to work, you need to be in a calorific excess as the point of the program is to build strength and muscle. without the cal excess you wont have the nutrition for build the muscle.
if you want a lean beach body you dont want to be in a calorific excess and using a 5x5 program cause this will result in some inevitable fat gain.
things like a High rep/low weight routine, Circuit training or HIIT combined with a calorific deficit is better to shred the excess fat and get a lean beach body imo.

Bro you're half right and also half wrong. First of all you don't need to be in a calorie surplus to gain strength. To build muscle tissue yes, but not strength. 5x5 programs can be used to get leaner as it's a heavy lifting routine in which both men and women can use it to retain as much LBM as possible even while dieting and eating a calorie deficit to lose weight.

Shredding fat is 95% diet. The lifting programs out there (like 5x5's) are to retain LBM while dieting.

dunno I'd probably call him 99% wrong? Half is generous. How exactly am I going to bulk doing a 5x5 program and not eating a surplus? Oh and if the answer is that you just can't DO 5x5 without eating a surplus then I am apparently using some kind of magical non-muscle related power to do so because on Sat I did 5x5 135lb squats with no problem.

Yea I know. lol. Every time I told someone they were wrong I'd get a warning from a mod. Maybe it's my arrogant nature.

I would start with P90 (not p90X) or Slim in 6. I have done many beachbody programs several times over the past 12 years including p90X. My favorites are the two I mentioned and my husband enjoys them as well. Even though Slim in 6 is a woman trainer it is a great program for men and women. I have four young kids and am currently doing Slim in 6.

high reps low weight will shred the fat and condition/tone the existing muscle when done in a calorific deficit.

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so you lot are tellin me that its possible to gain muscle whilst in a calorific deficit????

No what we're telling you is that you don't have to eat a calorie surplus to gain STRENGTH. There's a difference bro.

so you lot are tellin me that its possible to gain muscle whilst in a calorific deficit????

Newbie gains maybe, but no.
We are saying you are more likely to retain muscle mass in a calorie deficit with low reps high weight.

so you lot are tellin me that its possible to gain muscle whilst in a calorific deficit????

In most situations, no. If you are new or haven't exercised in a long time, maybe, but only briefly.

I do the Les Mills Pump from beach body and I love it. It IS strength training. My husband does it with me as well. It is as intense as you want it to be. I have just upped my weights in every track by 5 lbs and I can really tell a difference. The program comes with a barbell and weights, you would need to get another bar if your husband wants to join, but you can order a set that isn't too expensive. I highly recommend Body Pump to everyone!!! I used to take the classes as well and the DVDs are just as good!

LIKE!

stronglifts 5x5 is a strength program for bulking, not for getting a beach body

You are right you know. Who would think that muscles are not attractive or who would think that muscles and beach could ever go hand in hand. Idiocracy I tell you!

sorry guys...

...your NEVER gona convince me that a 5x5 is worth the effort in a defict.

if i use a 5x5 i want to see gains not maintain.

Ok so please explain what routine IS worth the effort then?

(you do understand that it's best to lift HEAVY and do COMPOUND lifts even while in a calorie deficit to retain a good amount of LBM?)

Hint: Even Lyle McDonald suggests this...

I have heard of the NROL for women. I guess I'm just a little nervous about it. Also, I guess I technically do have access to the facilities on campus, but I already feel like the only awkward college student with kids. *sigh*

I totally understand this! I also felt awkward at the campus facility, but for different reasons. I'm a 35 year old fat lady and it was weird and scary at first working out with the hot 20-somethings.

But it's the best thing I've done in a long long time. I've never felt better. I'm stronger and healthier than I've been in 15 years. I just had to push past the awkward stage, but it was soooooooooo worth it.

I started with New Rules of Lifting for Women too. My routine has morphed a bit... but it's still mostly NROLW stage 1. It's really great.

And don't listen to the people who say you're gonna bulk. You won't bulk. You'll gain strength and feel awesome. You'll look awesome too. I haven't bulked. I don't know of any female who has.

I think one of the best part is the unexpected benefits... I have much better endurance for things like hiking up mountains. I had no idea strength training could improve my cardio health too! But it has. I don't sound like a freight train anymore going up those hills. And I can hike for hours now.

P.S. You're probably NOT the only college student with kids, for the record.

sorry guys...

...your NEVER gona convince me that a 5x5 is worth the effort in a defict.

if i use a 5x5 i want to see gains not maintain.

Maybe YOU can't gain strength without gaining muscle mass. I'm not one to argue against other people's experiences.

Me though in the last nearly 6 months? My squat increasing by 500% over 6 months, my lat pull-downs by 300%, my push-ups going from incline with my head up to incline with my feet up all while losing inches in various locations suggests that perhaps there's a badass ability you haven't tapped into, bro.

I'll grant you my strength gains would have been more if I were eating ungodly amounts of calories and hitting certain supplements hard, but my strength gains please me enough. I'm also pleased that my pants are getting looser over time while my lifts are getting stronger.

stronglifts 5x5 is a strength program for bulking, not for getting a beach body

This is not true at all.

After doing Chalean Extreme, some of NROL, and now StrongLifts, I can tell you that althoughmost of the exercises in CLX are pretty fun and challenging, they aren't really full-body compound lifts. I can't tell you how different a squat with dumbbells is from a barbell squat. SO different. StrongLifts so far has been my favorite.

ive no idea what Chalean Extreme or NROL is tbh. but i do know alot about 5x5 programs as i use them every Autum/winter during my bulking phase. I can tell you that in order for a 5x5 program to work, you need to be in a calorific excess as the point of the program is to build strength and muscle. without the cal excess you wont have the nutrition for build the muscle.
if you want a lean beach body you dont want to be in a calorific excess and using a 5x5 program cause this will result in some inevitable fat gain.
things like a High rep/low weight routine, Circuit training or HIIT combined with a calorific deficit is better to shred the excess fat and get a lean beach body imo.

Sorry but part of NROL has phases of it's workout, Hypertrophy 1&2 built on a 5x5. I am in a deficit and have pretty much stayed at my weight and gained both strength and muscle size while under a 400-600cal deficit a day.