If abs are made in the kitchen....

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  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    In order to get improvement in your mid section, you need to eat CLEAN. Limit yourself to one cheat day ( or even better, one cheat meal. I usually pick this on the weekend. Its rewarding when youve been good all week and can enjoy an amazing cheat meal. It is important to have this, itll keep you sane haha) . Also, you can try having a 6 meals daily. Heres how it would work:

    You don't NEED to eat clean to lose stomach fat, you just need a consistent caloric deficit that can be made up of "clean" or "unclean" foods, it really doesn't matter
  • keepitcroosh
    keepitcroosh Posts: 301 Member
    In order to get improvement in your mid section, you need to eat CLEAN. Limit yourself to one cheat day ( or even better, one cheat meal. I usually pick this on the weekend. Its rewarding when youve been good all week and can enjoy an amazing cheat meal. It is important to have this, itll keep you sane haha) . Also, you can try having a 6 meals daily. Heres how it would work:

    You don't NEED to eat clean to lose stomach fat, you just need a consistent caloric deficit that can be made up of "clean" or "unclean" foods, it really doesn't matter

    I dont know about you, but i would rather get the nutritional values from eating clean, instead of just trying to lose stomach fat.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    In order to get improvement in your mid section, you need to eat CLEAN. Limit yourself to one cheat day ( or even better, one cheat meal. I usually pick this on the weekend. Its rewarding when youve been good all week and can enjoy an amazing cheat meal. It is important to have this, itll keep you sane haha) . Also, you can try having a 6 meals daily. Heres how it would work:

    You don't NEED to eat clean to lose stomach fat, you just need a consistent caloric deficit that can be made up of "clean" or "unclean" foods, it really doesn't matter

    I dont know about you, but i would rather get the nutritional values from eating clean, instead of just trying to lose stomach fat.

    Define "eating clean"
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutrition/the-dirt-on-clean-eating/

    My food is clean. I wash it before every meal.
  • jonski1968
    jonski1968 Posts: 4,490 Member
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    Don't listen to this. There's no scientific evidence to show that a low carb diet is any better than anything else.


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    Your right...don`t listen to this...Listen to all the people thats had fantastic results followwing the daily apple principals.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Why not listen to all the other people that have fantastic results eating 300-400 grams of carbs per day? There is no one way to eat. Low carb is not "better" than high carb. It's just different.
  • jonski1968
    jonski1968 Posts: 4,490 Member
    Tiger, after reading many and i mean many of your posts. I still cannot figure out whether your pro low carb or anti. Help me out a little here...
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    Check out wheatbellyblog.com and make sure you read the success stories--AWESOME! Also, Marksdailyapple.com.

    The main idea is to cut grains out of your diet and focus on lean meats, lots of veggies, some fruit, and GOOD FATS (nuts, seeds, olives, olive and coconut oil, and avocados). Make SURE you add those fats back in! Everybody's doing low-fat this and low-fat that these days and it's just more processed food that does you no good because you're left craving something and what you usually turn to is those "healthy, filling" carbs/grains, which just inflame your whole body and cause you to bloat up and gain fat and insulin spike and crash, over and over again all day long.

    Cut out grains and sugar. It's that simple! BUT--easier said than done, and that is why a lot of us still have a gut.

    Don't listen to this. There's no scientific evidence to show that a low carb diet is any better than anything else.

    OP, I see a couple things.

    1) Your protein intake is low. If you want to keep the muscle you have, up your protein to 1 gram/lb lean body mass.

    2) 6 weeks, not enough time. For many of us, belly fat is the last to go, we don't get to choose where it goes from first. Further, you won't see any ab definition until your body fat is significantly low. Take measurements and track them.

    3) Do you use a heart rate monitor? maybe you are overestimating your exercise cals or underestimating your caloric intake.

    Primal and Paleo is NOT necessarily a LOW carb plan, but A NATURAL carb lifestyle.

    Do some research before you spout ignorance and nonsense.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Check out wheatbellyblog.com and make sure you read the success stories--AWESOME! Also, Marksdailyapple.com.

    The main idea is to cut grains out of your diet and focus on lean meats, lots of veggies, some fruit, and GOOD FATS (nuts, seeds, olives, olive and coconut oil, and avocados). Make SURE you add those fats back in! Everybody's doing low-fat this and low-fat that these days and it's just more processed food that does you no good because you're left craving something and what you usually turn to is those "healthy, filling" carbs/grains, which just inflame your whole body and cause you to bloat up and gain fat and insulin spike and crash, over and over again all day long.

    Cut out grains and sugar. It's that simple! BUT--easier said than done, and that is why a lot of us still have a gut.

    Don't listen to this. There's no scientific evidence to show that a low carb diet is any better than anything else.

    OP, I see a couple things.

    1) Your protein intake is low. If you want to keep the muscle you have, up your protein to 1 gram/lb lean body mass.

    2) 6 weeks, not enough time. For many of us, belly fat is the last to go, we don't get to choose where it goes from first. Further, you won't see any ab definition until your body fat is significantly low. Take measurements and track them.

    3) Do you use a heart rate monitor? maybe you are overestimating your exercise cals or underestimating your caloric intake.

    Primal and Paleo is NOT necessarily a LOW carb plan, but A NATURAL carb lifestyle.

    Do some research before you spout ignorance and nonsense.

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  • lifeskittles
    lifeskittles Posts: 438 Member
    :laugh:

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  • joy31021
    joy31021 Posts: 216
    bump
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    So you know that eating "primal" and "paleo" if you will is a poor presumption of what human diets were or should be... And to call it "natural" is just wrong.
    Check out wheatbellyblog.com and make sure you read the success stories--AWESOME! Also, Marksdailyapple.com.

    The main idea is to cut grains out of your diet and focus on lean meats, lots of veggies, some fruit, and GOOD FATS (nuts, seeds, olives, olive and coconut oil, and avocados). Make SURE you add those fats back in! Everybody's doing low-fat this and low-fat that these days and it's just more processed food that does you no good because you're left craving something and what you usually turn to is those "healthy, filling" carbs/grains, which just inflame your whole body and cause you to bloat up and gain fat and insulin spike and crash, over and over again all day long.

    Cut out grains and sugar. It's that simple! BUT--easier said than done, and that is why a lot of us still have a gut.

    Don't listen to this. There's no scientific evidence to show that a low carb diet is any better than anything else.

    OP, I see a couple things.

    1) Your protein intake is low. If you want to keep the muscle you have, up your protein to 1 gram/lb lean body mass.

    2) 6 weeks, not enough time. For many of us, belly fat is the last to go, we don't get to choose where it goes from first. Further, you won't see any ab definition until your body fat is significantly low. Take measurements and track them.

    3) Do you use a heart rate monitor? maybe you are overestimating your exercise cals or underestimating your caloric intake.

    Primal and Paleo is NOT necessarily a LOW carb plan, but A NATURAL carb lifestyle.

    Do some research before you spout ignorance and nonsense.
  • keepitcroosh
    keepitcroosh Posts: 301 Member
    Define "eating clean"
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    Ill keep it simple so you can stop trying to prove whatever your point may be.
    It is eating whole/natural foods. Veggies, fruit, complex carbs, & lean protein. People who eat clean stay away from preservatives, bad fats like trans fat, blah blah blah.
  • ryn013
    ryn013 Posts: 116
    I'm not sure what you're eating... but it's not all calories. If you take in too much sodium you could be retaining a lot of water weight. Or maybe you're not drinking enough water. Be wary of carbs and processed food - eat close to the earth meaning get away from those potato chips and pick up a handful of almonds and some frozen grapes - they're delish!
  • Thank you everyone for your advice!
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
    I think whatever diet you go with, the general idea will be the same: it takes time.

    6 weeks isn't nearly enough. Be patient, if you're making progress (losing weight/inches) consistently, you'll get there. Good luck.
  • withervein
    withervein Posts: 224 Member
    I'm going to say the culprit is largely that you've not been at it long enough.

    I crossed the 200 lb barrier about a year and a half ago and the winter before last finally started doing something about it.

    I started with a kickboxing class once a week, then jogging with my dog, then keeping track of my food, then added a second kickboxing class each week.

    I've lost 30 pounds in the year, I've got valleys appearing on my stomach and I'm eating 17-1900 calories a day, three one-hour kickboxing classes each week, kettlebells, jogging with the pup, a new round of landscaping projects for the weekends and I'm still ticking down slowly but surely on my weight.

    Worry when it's been 6-8 months and you aren't seeing results, not 6 weeks.
  • withervein
    withervein Posts: 224 Member
    deleted because I quoted instead of edited. blargh.
  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
    maybe try gluten free diet or gluten reduced diet that tends to help reduce belly fat

    This only works if you have gluten allergies or are gluten intollerant. If you have no medical reason to lay off the gluten, changing this part of your diet won't do anything for you.
  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
    Define "eating clean"

    Ill keep it simple so you can stop trying to prove whatever your point may be.
    It is eating whole/natural foods. Veggies, fruit, complex carbs, & lean protein. People who eat clean stay away from preservatives, bad fats like trans fat, blah blah blah.

    I <3 french fries, ice cream, chocolate, and booze. I hit my protein macro goal and then have these several times per week (booze about daily). I at one point thought you had to restrict your foods and eat clean blah blah blah to get the results I wanted, and now I know that I don't. To get down to the body I want I need to eat at a deficit, and to keep it I have to eat a maintenance, and to build it I have to eat eat eat. My posts used to be "eat clean this and eat clean that and what are you putting in your body" and now my posts are "eat."
  • 2April
    2April Posts: 285 Member
    Define "eating clean"

    Ill keep it simple so you can stop trying to prove whatever your point may be.
    It is eating whole/natural foods. Veggies, fruit, complex carbs, & lean protein. People who eat clean stay away from preservatives, bad fats like trans fat, blah blah blah.
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    Then why not eat whole eggs?
  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
    Define "eating clean"

    Ill keep it simple so you can stop trying to prove whatever your point may be.
    It is eating whole/natural foods. Veggies, fruit, complex carbs, & lean protein. People who eat clean stay away from preservatives, bad fats like trans fat, blah blah blah.
    Then why not eat whole eggs?

    Didn't you know that egg yolks are the debil? Actually, some people don't eat them because of the preconceived notion that started many moons ago that they are bad for you because of the fats. Recent studies have started to indicate that eating the white without the yolk can actually be really bad for you and strip you of necessary nutrients. Other people do it for the volume, because egg whites are so low in calories you can eat a large volume for little calories. I do it on days that I pack sausage with my breakfast, I just swap out the calories and fats for something a little tastier. The rest do it because they really just don't like the taste.
  • kdiamond
    kdiamond Posts: 3,329 Member
    You say, "I know my diet can be improved." I think therein lies your answer. If you want a defined midsection, your diet should have very little room for improvement. Ask anyone who has a defined midsection - I'll bet you their diet is on point at least 90% of the time.

    ^^^ Ditto this...when my abs are showing it is because I am following a very strict diet...I barely ever actually "work" my abs.
  • huizenm
    huizenm Posts: 74 Member
    Sorry about that! Here's some additional info:

    I've been steadily working out for a month and a half. I just started 30DS about 3 weeks ago.

    I'm embarrassed to even open my diary because these veggie sticks are hard to resist and it's well documented. Don't judge me by this week! It's not typical.

    I can't keep veggie sticks in my house. They are way too addictive to me!!!
  • IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym
    IpuffyheartHeelsinthegym Posts: 5,573 Member
    they are made in the kitchen and not defined by your workout. The cleaner, less processed foods you eat, the more likely your abs are to appear. Not knowing what your diet looks like is hard to say, though.


    ETA: diet is 70-80% and workouts only make up 20-30% of how abs are made, hence, abs are made in the kitchen
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    my best advice for fat loss would be to maintain a small deficit (0.5 lb/week goal) You don't need any cardio to hit that deficit, but if you cannot sustain the lower intake use cardio to allow you to eat more, and also incorporate strength training with relatively heavy weights, this will ensure your body retains lean mass as you lose fat. without strength training and adequate protein your body will shed muscle along with fat, meaning to have the BF% where you see your abs your weight would have to be even lower if you don't strength train, due to the loss of muscle.
  • adamsilva
    adamsilva Posts: 261 Member
    Calorie DEFICIT! abs are made in the kitchen for sure.
  • deadstarsunburn
    deadstarsunburn Posts: 1,337 Member
    I'm giggling at your veggie sticks. What are they? They must be good! ; p Your diet looks much better than mine. This week was BAAAAD for me. I love my frappes! We all have our weaknesses. :) Just keep at it, I figure someday the abs will show up.
    OMG they are so good! They are veggie straws made from potatoes, carrots, and spinach. They are also evil, so heed my warning. I think I'll start bringing someone to the grocery store just to keep me from buying them!


    I LOVE veggie straws!!! I could eat a whole bag.
  • Sorry about that! Here's some additional info:

    I've been steadily working out for a month and a half. I just started 30DS about 3 weeks ago.

    I'm embarrassed to even open my diary because these veggie sticks are hard to resist and it's well documented. Don't judge me by this week! It's not typical.
    If those are the same veggie sticks that I think you are talking about then I understand!!!! I had to quit buying them. :(
  • auroranflash
    auroranflash Posts: 3,569 Member
    I have seen some amazing results from many, many members on 30DS, just keep at it and you will lose inches. Sounds like you're on track with taking measurements and that's a good thing. Just stick with it, maybe try to up your calories by 50 every few weeks so you are closer to your BMI. If you're used to eating low, your body is going to hold on to those extra calories and it doesn't give you a lot of freedom. Do yourself a favor and don't get used to eating below your BMI. You'll have more energy and still lose weight if you up your calories a little.

    Keep at it with the protein too. Good luck.
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