When did Support turn into bash a person????
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I don't know the details of your friend's experience, but I find that on the forums, people tend to read "bashing" into things that are only offering advice without sugar-coating. For example, on threads where people are upset at going on a huge binge, any response that isn't, "It's totally fine! Everyone does it!" is seen as criticism or bashing. It seems like taking the realistic viewpoint of "it's NOT fine and here's how to prevent it in the future" is taken as a personal attack for some reason.
Support doesn't mean stroking someone's ego or telling little white lies to make them feel better; sometimes the best support is a firm (but kind) wake-up call.0 -
I dunno, I'm supportive from my perspective of what is healthy. If someone is consistently eating below 800 calories or less than 20g of fat, I'll mention that they might want to try to eat more. Some might view my comments as negative. But support is supporting their health, not any willy nilly thing they choose to do.0
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You are so right! Gosh we have it hard enough just beating up ourselves after a binge or setback but when your pals in here do it, that is not good!0
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My menu is open, and I don't judge others....sometimes we all have off days, doesn't mean I'll bash them for it.0
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Support doesn't mean bashing. It also doesn't mean fawning over, coddling, or otherwise sugar coating and protecting the other person.0
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For me support sometimes is hearing the cold hard truth, Not some fluffy o you will get it tomorrow stuff.
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If I fall off, its usually on for a day or so. If I'm constantly falling off, I don't need anyone telling me I'm doing a good job when I'm not. :glasses:0 -
Besides, if one person is consistently giving negative feedback about the way someone is eating, to me, that says the person that's eating needs to fix something. I'd be more concerned about that than I would be about the way the person giving the feedback is wording themselves.0
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As sad as it is, there are people out there that put other people down because they perceive it as raising themselves up. There is a way to give constructive criticism without bashing someone. Then on the other hand some people, especially on a site like MFP, that have low self esteem already and it does not take much to push them over the edge. Like most old sayings, "The truth hurts" is accurate.
But I still feel there is a way to be honest with people without bashing them while you are doing it.0 -
My diary is locked - no-one needs to know what I eat - I'm the only one that is qualified to judge me!
Your friend could unlock her diary if she wants and just share it with her friends & delete the person who has been unkind. Insulting someone or deriding them for what they have eaten is only going to cause more harm and possible comfort eating.
How can you comment on someone's eating habits if you don't know their height/weight/BMI?
Your friend can add me if she wants more support.0 -
I agree, It seems like there's a lot of grumpy grumps on MFP lately looking to stir up trouble...0
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Knowledge is power and sometimes falls into the wrong hands?0
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As sad as it is, there are people out there that put other people down because they perceive it as raising themselves up.
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It annoys me when they act like I got to eat exactly like THEM and the ones that act like you can't feel good about yourself till you reach your goals. I don't need those types in my life AT ALL. :noway:0
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Most people are supportive on here. There are a few rotten apples. On the other hand, if a friend of mine has lost 80 pounds and mentions something about my diary, I don't flip out. They earned the right to say certain things and they want me to succeed. Those are the teachable moments in the process. Your friend must try and separate the mean people from those who did the work and want to help her.0
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Both support and constructive criticism are important. What some people forget is that in an online forum is that tone of voice (a very powerful communication tool) does not come across in the written word, nor does sarcasm. Generally, written words are taken extremely literally even though the intent may or may not have been so literal. Some people also don't know that there is a very significant difference between constructive and destructive criticism, both on the giving and receiving end. Not knowing you, your friend or the situation you're referring to I can't comment beyond this: In general I've found people on this website to very supportive both to their personal friends and out right strangers. There are always gong to be people who feel entitled to point out and pick on flaws in other people. When I come across people like that, I call them on it and if they show they can't change then I cut them out of my life and remind myself that if they are that bad on the outside how bad are they to themselves on the inside.0
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It didn't. Sometimes helping someone is telling them the truth. Truth hurts, but it also helps.
Correcting someone on doing something harmful is not bashing them. It's trying to help them.0 -
No matter how suggestions are phrased, there could still be a nugget of information worth having that will help in the battle.
Help me back on the wagon with a gentle nudge or kick me back on with a size 12 boot either way I will take all the help I can get0 -
Friends tell friends the truth!! The only exception is that we all for the most part are new friends and haven't really learned each others emotional threshold. Know that no one on this site is perfect and we all have bad days but we joined this site for support and the majority of our comments come from a good place.0
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I wonder how perfect the "basher's" diary is. Is theirs open for people to see? There is a difference between helpful advice and negative comments. Just unfriend them. They are probably putting you down to make themselves feel better about what they are eating. Don't waste any more energy on this person.0
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Sorry I should have made it clearer. This is not one of her friends giving constructive advice. This is a troll who is haunting and even if you will stalking her. She has deleted his posts, blocked him and now she has locked her diary. She should not have to deal with all this harassment. For most of you I understand what your saying about the cold hard truth. I call that constructive advice. This guy is just being vicious. :flowerforyou:0
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