Is "eating more and losing more" true?

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  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    I haven't read any of the other replies and I'll make mine real brief.

    Yes. You need to make sure you're measuring as acurately as possible with a good food scale and HRM. Then you can dial it in.

    My recent example:

    2600 - 2700 calories daily had me at one weight for 5 weeks.

    I changed nothing else except added more calories last week, up to 3100 daily. I lost 2 lbs during the first week of increased cals. It does work as long as you're "measuring" properly and as acurately as possible. I did 1200 calories a day for 7 months straight (lost 140lbs this way and most of my muscle mass too) and have been steadily increasing them since then. This is month 12 and I'm still going strong. I thought I was adjusting up to maintenance @ 3100, but it spurred some additional loss.

    -M

    Good luck!
  • iron_jj
    iron_jj Posts: 446 Member
    It does work! My last months progress in measurements; 1 inch off my thighs, 1 off my hips, 2 off my waist and 1.5 off my arms. Only lost 3ish pounds on the scale. All of this while eating 1800-2100 calories + lifting. :wink: Just an example.. Give it a shot it'll be worth it!
  • tangiesharp
    tangiesharp Posts: 315 Member
    OP,

    Yes, it is true. Check out the group Eat More to Weigh Less. http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/3817-eat-more-to-weigh-less There are a couple of posts about TDEE and BMR which will help answer your question.. Lots of really good information and support.
  • HeartME511healthy
    HeartME511healthy Posts: 163 Member
    It depends on your body. If you have a lot of weight to lose, then no. If you're close to your goal or already relatively small, then yes.

    I need to lose 50. I would like to do it in 5 months before my wedding.. bahaha. Hey a girl could dream right?

    10 pounds a month is a healthy weight loss, but you have to be careful on how you get there. I am not expert but I have struggle with weight loss and success or no-success.. You have to find what works for you, are you working out? if so then you may want to consider eating some of those calories. I am currently trying this myself and my Dr told me I was under eating and to eat protein protein protein. At some point I tried a vegetarian program he suggested that I only do that for 3 days, and to eat meat not vegan protein. So you have to make sure you set your goals realistic for yourself. If you are angry and under eating then that could be why, I say eat and chart your progress and from week to week you will know what works for you.

    This is not a simple task otherwise there would not be obesity nowhere in the world. So to get healthy we have to think long term health opposed to short term and quick. It didn't take overnight to put the weight on and it won't take overnight to get it off either. You can do the goal weight but are you going to be determined enough to obtain it. And I an talking to myself when i say this as well.
  • Upping my calories worked for me. I feel like I have a lot more energy, and it feels "cleaner" too, if that makes sense. For me, I broke the plateau when I really focused on making sure I have the right balance of nutrients (40C/30F/30P) for me, and broke my meals into 5-6 times a day, 300-450 calories a meal. I am a 5'9" 180lb male, and on a workout day, my cal limit is ~3100, ~2500 on a non workout day.

    I am on my 11th week of my new meal/workout plan and I have dropped a total of 14.8lbs of fat, and added 5.2lbs of muscle, and my metabolic age reading on my scale has gone from 44 to 21.

    If you are serious about wanting to drop weight before your wedding, AND KEEPING IT OFF, then cardio is also key!
  • purpleface
    purpleface Posts: 21 Member
    I was eating 1200 (sometimes barely even that) & I was so hungry all the time & so tired. So I thought enough is enough & upped it to 1580 & lost 3lbs. And I've lost 5lbs since then. It's only been a month since I started so I think it's done wonders eating more. You just have to see what's right with your body but you will get there eventually :) And to be fair, it's generally harder if you've only got a little bit to lose as well so just give it time, keep exercising & you should see results soon :)
  • ladyraven68
    ladyraven68 Posts: 2,003 Member
    I am only eating 1200 calories a day. I am sooo moody, my fiance doesn't even want to be around me. It kind of reminds me of how I acted when I was anorexic. :( I was SO mean back then because I was HUNGRY!

    I have read on here a lot of people saying they eat more calories like 1400-1500 hundred and lose more then they did with 1200.

    This is only my third day back on MFP, I failed many times, but only because I didn't give it my all..:(

    Do you think I will feel better in a few days or am I doomed to be a psycho mean person while I am losing weight?

    You need to figure out your TDEE and take a deficit from there.

    I was eating 1200 to start, but it was too low for me and made me ill, I'm now happily losing over a pound a week at 1600.
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    You may not lose eating more, but what you will notice is that a higher % of your weight loss will come from fat instead of lean muscle. So eating more may not lead to faster weight loss, but could lead to faster BF% decreases, which is really what it is all about.

    ^^^This.

    Also it may keep you from having to rebuild lean mass later.
    That means eating above TDEE and busting *kitten*.
  • darlilama
    darlilama Posts: 794 Member
    There is no one right answer for everyone. It's not as simple as "eat more, lose more". IF that was true, then we wouldn't have an obesity epidemic in the U.S. would we? :smile: On the other hand, you do have to eat "enough".

    If you honestly answered the questions that MFP posed to determine your daily caloric intake, then you are in the ballpark at least. For example, I have my goal as "maintenance" . Right now I'm not trying to lose or gain... just stay the same. I set my activity level to "sedentary" because I have a desk job and often end up sitting at that desk more than 8 hours a day. If I had a job where I was on my feet most of the day, then my activity level would certainly be set to something higher. I'd suggest you be on the conservative side as I think most people seem to think they do more than they actually do (myself included).

    Based on the info I gave, MFP calculated 1600 calories a day. I tried out several other calculators on the web (e.g. WebMD and others) and they gave me less than 1600... so I manually changed my MFP goal to be 1500 calories a day to be "safe"... I mean it wouldn't hurt if I ended up losing a few more lbs. :)

    From that point, I add in my daily exercise calories burned and I use a Heart Rate Monitor to ensure that I'm as accurate as I can be.

    Thus far, it's working. I'm always weighing within two lbs more or less than my goal... which I would consider natural body fluctuations.

    So... answer the questions honestly, do the math, get a HRM if you're exercising, and log carefully and completey. Unless you're a real odd duck, you will be eating enough and will be losing weight.

    ALTHOUGH... even though I really had plenty to eat, the first couple of weeks were difficult for me and I'm sure I was cranky. :laugh: It definitely got better!
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    I don't know that it will help you lose 50lbs in 5 months (anyone willing to predict that about any diet is most likely a hack), but it will help you lose bodyfat while maintaining muscle (which in turn, helps you lose bodyfat), and it may help you from becoming a real bridezilla. So you will look better and feel better for the wedding. Sounds like win-win to me!

    P.S. Like Tangiesharp mentioned, check out the group. Read the posts about being patient- because unlike most other diets, upping your calories will likely not produce a quick initial loss.
  • Coco_Puff
    Coco_Puff Posts: 823 Member
    I upped mine to 1765 2 weeks ago, I had a 2 pound gain at first and then I lost that within a week. I have been losing inches and I'm amazed I can eat so much and stay where I was, on the scale, as I was at 1400. The info given to me about this explains that it may take 4 weeks before I see a real loss, body adjusting, but inch loss will not stall. It does feell good to eat more and have more energy for workouts. Check the group on here, Eat More to Weigh Less, for more info. Good Luck!
  • chevy88grl
    chevy88grl Posts: 3,937 Member
    <---- Upped her calories and lost 17lbs in 5 weeks.

    I've learned that I can easily lose weight if I'm around 2100-2200 net calories a day. If I tried to stay around 1200 net, I'd be creating a 1000+ calorie deficit per day. Not only would I be starving to death and threatening to eat small household pets, my weight loss would stall (and I may even see a gain on the scale!).


    Eat to lose works.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    Even if you don't lose weight faster, you'll lose weight HAPPIER eating more. Happier weight loss means weight loss you can stick with.

    It would be better to maybe lose 25-30 pounds in the next five months than lose ten in one month, then quit because you hate feeling hangry all the time.
  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    I started off at 1200, but just upped my cals to just over 1500. I'm happier, and feel like I can actually eat now. I know it take some suffering to lose weight, but I just wasn't making it at 1200. It's nearly impossible to voluntarily sustain something that is making you miserable all the time. You need to do whatever works for you. As long as you're losing and staying healthy, that's what really matters.
  • skinnylove00
    skinnylove00 Posts: 662 Member
    to give you a metaphor, eating more to lose more is like throwing a ball up in the air. your weight will increase for a bit, level off, then you`ll probably start dropping. keep in mind that 1200 cals already HAS A DEFICEIT WORKED IN so if you are eating 1200 and exercising, no wonder youre not losing weight because your body is trying to conserve your calories.

    and another metaphor:: your metabolism is a fire....eating is like feeding it logs and kindle to keep it burning. if you eat little or not at all, it slows that metabolism fire down and youre body wont burn cals. if youre always cranky, thats a sure sign youre doing something wrong. so eat more; i reccommend 1400 to start out with. PUT AWAY YOUR SCALE. and try it for a month or two. you might surprise yourself
  • bacitracin
    bacitracin Posts: 921 Member
    Eating more calories does not cause anyone to lose more weight. It's illogical and scientifically impossible. If you increase your calories from 1200 to 1400 you will lose slightly slower.

    You don't really know how nutrition works, then. It's not actually as simple as calories in and calories out. Type of calories is a huge difference. For me and many other people, I can eat 1500 calories a day of low-fat, whole grains and fruit, and gain weight. However, when i switched to a ketogenic diet of 2000 or more calories a day, I lost 43 pounds over about 7 months. Carbohydrates spike some sort of hormone in my body that I am extremely vulnerable to, that causes storage of fat. If I eat only fats and proteins, I am healthy as an ox. Your body may very well be different, I don't presume to speak for anyone. I'm simply asserting that one CAN eat more calories and also lose weight faster (especially, as others have said, because lower calories can trigger starvation mode in the body).
    HOWEVER if the amount of calories you're eating is making you irritable then WHY THE HELL (excuse my language) are you eating that little? In order for weight loss to be a long-term success, you need to be doing something that you can happily do for a long period of time, or at least long enough to reach your goals. Not something that's pissing you, and everyone around you off.

    I agree with you there.
  • booyainyoface
    booyainyoface Posts: 409 Member
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/3834-eat-more-to-weigh-less

    eat more, make lifestyle changes that you can live with... 1200 calories for life isn't a reality for most of us. i eat 1500+ exercise calories back (about 1800-2000 a day total) and am losing a lot, am sane, and have stopped binging on crap because i can fit it into my diet if i budget well :)
  • believeandtry
    believeandtry Posts: 64 Member
    loving the responses bump :D
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
    It's true for me. I don't eat fewer than 1500 calories. I tried 1200 for a few weeks and didn't lose any weight.
  • kylesmommy89
    kylesmommy89 Posts: 356 Member
    My weight loss "sweet spot" is 1600 calories. I'm trying to maintain now on 1800.
  • It's as easy as calories in > calories out. Adjusting by a few hundred calories won't make much of a difference around the 1300 mark. There is no such thing as starvation mode... if there is then someone needs to explain how i lost 150+ lbs.

    However, eating healthier food like whole grains and staying away from processed stuff does make a difference in mood in some people. There are studies that show psychological and physiological change in people who eat the same amount of calories but different foods (mcdonalds vs whole food home cooked meals)
  • Littlerunner0514
    Littlerunner0514 Posts: 42 Member
    I have a very small frame and started out at 1200 calories for 2 months and lost 1 lb! So, I upped my calories to 1400-1500 a day and down to 1200 one day a week. It really helped me lose 5 lbs in the next 3 weeks. Also, look at WHAT you are eating. How;s your sugar intake? Whole foods are very important and also are lean meats. Good luck and congrats on your wedding
  • At the bare minimum you need to be eating your BMR. Just Google "BMR calculator." Your BMR is the amount of calories you'd need if you were in a coma and were only performing daily bodily functions. Without this your body can definitely go into starvation mode.
  • Marge321
    Marge321 Posts: 131 Member
    I've been in the "eat more weight less" group for almost a week. I'm eating 2200 calories a day and I've drop a pound already. I'm just waiting the end of the week to weigh-in.

    I've read all their posts and I do believe this is the way for me to lose. I could never live on 1200 calories a day, but I'm 5'10'' and 197 pounds. Everytime I tried to restrict my diet, I was angry, hungry and eventually binging in chips or chocolate.

    Try to read the posts in this group and see if it's fits your lifestyle !
  • samntha14
    samntha14 Posts: 2,084 Member
    Yes and No hard to explain I HAVe to eat more to keep up my bodies demands from way more exercise. The more I exercise the more I have to eat. If your not exercising than go ahead and eat less, but otherwise, unless you are obese, you may need to eat more.
  • mumster63
    mumster63 Posts: 29 Member
    It was a huge leap of faith for me but it actually worked
  • Micahroni84
    Micahroni84 Posts: 452 Member
    It's true if you are eating your daily allowance plus eating the calories that you burned from your work out. I've been discussing this with several people over the last week because I was only recently convinced of this. I really hated the thought of eating all of those precious burned calories.
    I joined a Biggest Loser Contest and wasn't losing any weight really My metabolism was slow because after my workout and the calories I burned I was only really eating 700 calories a day and I was hungry and moody. This week I have put to practice eating my excercise calories and I've lost 4 pounds. In 4 days, 4 pounds has melted off of my body and I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow I weighed a pound less than today.

    one of my teammate linked an article about eating your excercise calories and that the best time to do it was within 2 hours, (best within 45 minutes) of working out. I eat about 100 less than I burned because calorie counters on machine and MFP can be inacurate. I also noticed I feel better because my blood sugar stays level. Low blood sugar can make you grumpy and give you mood swings.
  • ErinI5787
    ErinI5787 Posts: 17 Member
    You want to lose 10 lbs a month? Very doable, at least for me. I've been doing that for 4 months and I'll hopefully hit a full forty lost by may 1st. I eat healthy, I don't starve myself and I exercise 6x a week. 50 lbs in 5 months is very realistic.
  • kyt1206
    kyt1206 Posts: 101
    Just try it for 2 weeks. Since your previous attempts didn't work, why harm could it be? You won't gain weight if you don't over-eat calories (like 3000 per day). Try going around 1500-1600.
  • Micahroni84
    Micahroni84 Posts: 452 Member
    You want to lose 10 lbs a month? Very doable, at least for me. I've been doing that for 4 months and I'll hopefully hit a full forty lost by may 1st. I eat healthy, I don't starve myself and I exercise 6x a week. 50 lbs in 5 months is very realistic.

    That's awesome! And what I'm going for, safely of course. I work out 1-2 hours a day, 6-7 days a week, eat healthy and I've lost 4 pounds this week. I'm hoping I will continue at this pace for the next 3 or four months at least. I am eating between 1400 and 1800 calories a day.
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