Fasting - does it work?

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  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
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    If you want to screw with your poor body and send it into starvation mode... Leading to binges and ultimate weight gain... Then, yah, it works.

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  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
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    I need to ask a possibly stupid question...do people ever do this accidentally? I hardly ever eat before noon or after 9pm, I usually eat around noon, 3pm, and a later dinner, with a sort of mini-meal after my workout somewhere in between the rest. From reading through this whole thread (admittedly I haven't read the group) it seems like I've been doing what is described here. I started pushing back my breakfast because I don't get hypoglycemia symptoms first thing in the AM but DO get them if I go too long between meals. And I don't do the 6 meal a day thing because I don't think eating mini meals all day is satisfying- feels like a diet. I've always been kind of ashamed of my late breakfasts because of how much blah blah you hear about mandatory breakfast...
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
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    I need to ask a possibly stupid question...do people ever do this accidentally? I hardly ever eat before noon or after 9pm, I usually eat around noon, 3pm, and a later dinner, with a sort of mini-meal after my workout somewhere in between the rest. From reading through this whole thread (admittedly I haven't read the group) it seems like I've been doing what is described here. I started pushing back my breakfast because I don't get hypoglycemia symptoms first thing in the AM but DO get them if I go too long between meals. And I don't do the 6 meal a day thing because I don't think eating mini meals all day is satisfying- feels like a diet. I've always been kind of ashamed of my late breakfasts because of how much blah blah you hear about mandatory breakfast...

    Yes, they do...the thing is, it can affect your body differently. I ate like this (understand, I had little activity, desk job...etc, plus I'm sure I was over on calories often, even with only 1-2 meals a day) simply because I was too busy during the daytime to eat...and it made me fat...

    Until I started strength training, and became conscious of my calories.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
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    I need to ask a possibly stupid question...do people ever do this accidentally? I hardly ever eat before noon or after 9pm, I usually eat around noon, 3pm, and a later dinner, with a sort of mini-meal after my workout somewhere in between the rest. From reading through this whole thread (admittedly I haven't read the group) it seems like I've been doing what is described here. I started pushing back my breakfast because I don't get hypoglycemia symptoms first thing in the AM but DO get them if I go too long between meals. And I don't do the 6 meal a day thing because I don't think eating mini meals all day is satisfying- feels like a diet. I've always been kind of ashamed of my late breakfasts because of how much blah blah you hear about mandatory breakfast...

    Yes, they do...the thing is, it can affect your body differently. I ate like this (understand, I had little activity, desk job...etc, plus I'm sure I was over on calories often, even with only 1-2 meals a day) simply because I was too busy during the daytime to eat...and it made me fat...

    Until I started strength training.
    It just seems to me hard to believe that the way I eat, having a late breakfast, would be what anyone considers fasting. I believe you- it's just strange. If this is considered the low end of what IF entails, then the people who are referring to it as an eating disorder are outright wrong.
  • imbanter
    imbanter Posts: 72 Member
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    I need to ask a possibly stupid question...do people ever do this accidentally? I hardly ever eat before noon or after 9pm, I usually eat around noon, 3pm, and a later dinner, with a sort of mini-meal after my workout somewhere in between the rest. From reading through this whole thread (admittedly I haven't read the group) it seems like I've been doing what is described here. I started pushing back my breakfast because I don't get hypoglycemia symptoms first thing in the AM but DO get them if I go too long between meals. And I don't do the 6 meal a day thing because I don't think eating mini meals all day is satisfying- feels like a diet. I've always been kind of ashamed of my late breakfasts because of how much blah blah you hear about mandatory breakfast...

    Sounds like my day. I don't like trying to easy something every two hours. Feels like a diet and I'm eating even though I'm not hungry. IF really seems to be a better fit for me.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
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    I need to ask a possibly stupid question...do people ever do this accidentally? I hardly ever eat before noon or after 9pm, I usually eat around noon, 3pm, and a later dinner, with a sort of mini-meal after my workout somewhere in between the rest. From reading through this whole thread (admittedly I haven't read the group) it seems like I've been doing what is described here. I started pushing back my breakfast because I don't get hypoglycemia symptoms first thing in the AM but DO get them if I go too long between meals. And I don't do the 6 meal a day thing because I don't think eating mini meals all day is satisfying- feels like a diet. I've always been kind of ashamed of my late breakfasts because of how much blah blah you hear about mandatory breakfast...

    Yes, they do...the thing is, it can affect your body differently. I ate like this (understand, I had little activity, desk job...etc, plus I'm sure I was over on calories often, even with only 1-2 meals a day) simply because I was too busy during the daytime to eat...and it made me fat...

    Until I started strength training.
    It just seems to me hard to believe that the way I eat, having a late breakfast, would be what anyone considers fasting. I believe you- it's just strange. If this is considered the low end of what IF entails, then the people who are referring to it as an eating disorder are outright wrong.

    That's exactly the point those of us who have researched it and/or practice it...are making.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
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    Well I just 100% proved your point with a single serving of anecdotal evidence. I should have stepped in earlier and cleared this up so you guys wouldn't have had to mess around with studies and the like. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
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    Well I just 100% proved your point with a single serving of anecdotal evidence. I should have stepped in earlier and cleared this up so you guys wouldn't have had to mess around with studies and the like. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    LOL thanks!!
  • delikium
    delikium Posts: 196 Member
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    If you want to screw with your poor body and send it into starvation mode... Leading to binges and ultimate weight gain... Then, yah, it works.

    Once again, ignorance with no research.

    I mean...I'm SO obviously in starvation mode lol...as are all the guys who've posted who are even more ripped than I am.

    Bravo.

    ... starving and fasting have different mindsets
  • reach53
    reach53 Posts: 46 Member
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    why don't you ask a personal trainer? someone who has an educational background in nutrition, weight loss, exercise programs catering to certain requirements? just a thought....

    If you go to 3 different ones you will get 3 different opinions. Just compare the Weight Watchers vs. Dr. Atkins vs. Dr Fuhrmann and all have a medical background. LOL
  • HonkyTonks
    HonkyTonks Posts: 1,193 Member
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    why don't you ask a personal trainer? someone who has an educational background in nutrition, weight loss, exercise programs catering to certain requirements? just a thought....

    If you go to 3 different ones you will get 3 different opinions. Just compare the Weight Watchers vs. Dr. Atkins vs. Dr Fuhrmann and all have a medical background. LOL

    My experience of Personal Trainers is that they don't know much about anything except how to do exercises. Usually they have been taught a position on nutrition and don't keep up with current research.

    For example, a PT at my gym insisted that I needed to eat 6 small meals a day to boost my metabolism. I didn't listen to much after that.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
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    why don't you ask a personal trainer? someone who has an educational background in nutrition, weight loss, exercise programs catering to certain requirements? just a thought....

    If you go to 3 different ones you will get 3 different opinions. Just compare the Weight Watchers vs. Dr. Atkins vs. Dr Fuhrmann and all have a medical background. LOL

    My experience of Personal Trainers is that they don't know much about anything except how to do exercises. Usually they have been taught a position on nutrition and don't keep up with current research.

    For example, a PT at my gym insisted that I needed to eat 6 small meals a day to boost my metabolism. I didn't listen to much after that.

    It's debatable whether they actually know that even. For example (and oddly enough lol) I actually had a little fun tonight at the gym (LA Fitness) by asking four separate personal trainers just how much the bar/rack on the leg press machine weighed. Can you guess the response? Let me put it this way, they all had to appeal to a higher power, and I got three different answers back (two came back with the same answer), none of which were correct.
  • mfpcopine
    mfpcopine Posts: 3,093 Member
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    It's debatable whether they actually know that even. For example (and oddly enough lol) I actually had a little fun tonight at the gym (LA Fitness) by asking four separate personal trainers just how much the bar/rack on the leg press machine weighed. Can you guess the response? Let me put it this way, they all had to appeal to a higher power, and I got three different answers back (two came back with the same answer), none of which were correct.

    I've been to board-certified specialists who knew nothing about weight loss or fitness. (I consulted them about conditions unrelated to weight loss.) I found out how ignorant they were when some meds were discussed and I asked if they caused weight gain. They immediately thought I was underweight (which I am not). Even they have these one-size-fits-all weight charts in their head.

    I've been examined by doctors who asked if I was a dancer. Why? Because I'm not overweight and was stretching because I'd been sitting. That's all it took. No one who actually treated dancers would ever make that assumption. But I guess even doctors are influenced by the weight of their patients.
  • nabooru1017
    nabooru1017 Posts: 10
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    Notice,

    the only naysayers are those who have not yet tried it, or have clearly failed middle school Biology.


    Please. I beg you. Stop saying "Starvation Mode" like it's an actual concept.
  • wackyfunster
    wackyfunster Posts: 944 Member
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    Notice,

    the only naysayers are those who have not yet tried it, or have clearly failed middle school Biology.


    Please. I beg you. Stop saying "Starvation Mode" like it's an actual concept.
    QFT
  • staceyo1211
    staceyo1211 Posts: 163
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    I think it will work for you if you have the ability to fast.
    I find if i go without food for about 5 hours i get very faint and dizzy, and i start to struggle with simple motor fuctions.
    And i will just start to shake and after about 8 hours of not eating i will start to go into like hazy trances.
    Fasting is not an option for me lol.


    Sound like you have hypoglycemia, I have it and I do they same thing you said when I go a while with out eating. My blood sugar gets too low.
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
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    I think it will work for you if you have the ability to fast.
    I find if i go without food for about 5 hours i get very faint and dizzy, and i start to struggle with simple motor fuctions.
    And i will just start to shake and after about 8 hours of not eating i will start to go into like hazy trances.
    Fasting is not an option for me lol.

    even when you are sleeping?