intermittent fasting..thinking about it
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I was having that problem. It got to the point I was only getting about 800 cal a day in, partly because of my work schedule. I went to IF. I found that when I break my fast and eat a 600 cal dinner. The next morning I wake up and I am hungry. I have no problems getting my calories in now.
I always get my cals in, but I space them out. I just ate my last snack ab 2 hrs ago.
You just said you should be getting 1600 but are only get 1200. I doubt at 1200 your even eating at BMR. I'm not telling you to do IF. It is a personal preference. But earlier you said it wouldn't work because of xyz, now your saying it wouldn't work because of abc. There are many ways to skin a cat. If what your doing is working for you great. IF works for alot of people. My results have been amazing.
I think that the thing that is being missed here is that the primary benefit for many people is the fact that the eating protocols fit into peoples natural eating habits and work and social life - if it does not, then it would not be the way to go.
Sara with the good sense! This is exactly what I was trying to express :happy:0 -
I was having that problem. It got to the point I was only getting about 800 cal a day in, partly because of my work schedule. I went to IF. I found that when I break my fast and eat a 600 cal dinner. The next morning I wake up and I am hungry. I have no problems getting my calories in now.
I always get my cals in, but I space them out. I just ate my last snack ab 2 hrs ago.
You just said you should be getting 1600 but are only get 1200. I doubt at 1200 your even eating at BMR. I'm not telling you to do IF. It is a personal preference. But earlier you said it wouldn't work because of xyz, now your saying it wouldn't work because of abc. There are many ways to skin a cat. If what your doing is working for you great. IF works for alot of people. My results have been amazing.
I get in 1200 in 8 hrs. I said tht cuz tht guy said he ate for for 8hrs and didn't for 16. I couldn't get enough in in 8hrs is what I was saying. I get all my cals in, but def not in 8hrs. More like 12hrs. idk if it would work or not. I'm just scared it won't & don't really understand it. That's why I'm still in this thread. No 1 in my circle does it, so I'm not familiar w/ it. I'm just stating why I feel it wouldn't work for me to see if I could b wrong, cuz idk ab it. There is so many thing in the diet world, a lot contradict others so u just have to ask about it, find out more & then decide what u believe.0 -
I was having that problem. It got to the point I was only getting about 800 cal a day in, partly because of my work schedule. I went to IF. I found that when I break my fast and eat a 600 cal dinner. The next morning I wake up and I am hungry. I have no problems getting my calories in now.
I always get my cals in, but I space them out. I just ate my last snack ab 2 hrs ago.
You just said you should be getting 1600 but are only get 1200. I doubt at 1200 your even eating at BMR. I'm not telling you to do IF. It is a personal preference. But earlier you said it wouldn't work because of xyz, now your saying it wouldn't work because of abc. There are many ways to skin a cat. If what your doing is working for you great. IF works for alot of people. My results have been amazing.
I think that the thing that is being missed here is that the primary benefit for many people is the fact that the eating protocols fit into peoples natural eating habits and work and social life - if it does not, then it would not be the way to go.
Sara with the good sense! This is exactly what I was trying to express :happy:
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I was having that problem. It got to the point I was only getting about 800 cal a day in, partly because of my work schedule. I went to IF. I found that when I break my fast and eat a 600 cal dinner. The next morning I wake up and I am hungry. I have no problems getting my calories in now.
I always get my cals in, but I space them out. I just ate my last snack ab 2 hrs ago.
You just said you should be getting 1600 but are only get 1200. I doubt at 1200 your even eating at BMR. I'm not telling you to do IF. It is a personal preference. But earlier you said it wouldn't work because of xyz, now your saying it wouldn't work because of abc. There are many ways to skin a cat. If what your doing is working for you great. IF works for alot of people. My results have been amazing.
I get in 1200 in 8 hrs. I said tht cuz tht guy said he ate for for 8hrs and didn't for 16. I couldn't get enough in in 8hrs is what I was saying. I get all my cals in, but def not in 8hrs. More like 12hrs. idk if it would work or not. I'm just scared it won't & don't really understand it. That's why I'm still in this thread. No 1 in my circle does it, so I'm not familiar w/ it. I'm just stating why I feel it wouldn't work for me to see if I could b wrong, cuz idk ab it. There is so many thing in the diet world, a lot contradict others so u just have to ask about it, find out more & then decide what u believe.
I think it would be a challenge to do IF if you are set on doing extensive cardio in the morning. You could set your eating window around doing that, as there is nothing that says you have to eat later in the day specifically, but I don't think I have heard about anyone that does their window early in the day. I think you would get hungry later on. It seems more natural to go to sleep and then continue your fast for a couple hours. But I'm no expert here, I was just trying to show how you can have high calorie burn days while practicing IF. Some of mine are 1100 calorie cardio days, in the evening, in the middle of my eating window.0 -
I was having that problem. It got to the point I was only getting about 800 cal a day in, partly because of my work schedule. I went to IF. I found that when I break my fast and eat a 600 cal dinner. The next morning I wake up and I am hungry. I have no problems getting my calories in now.
I always get my cals in, but I space them out. I just ate my last snack ab 2 hrs ago.
You just said you should be getting 1600 but are only get 1200. I doubt at 1200 your even eating at BMR. I'm not telling you to do IF. It is a personal preference. But earlier you said it wouldn't work because of xyz, now your saying it wouldn't work because of abc. There are many ways to skin a cat. If what your doing is working for you great. IF works for alot of people. My results have been amazing.
I get in 1200 in 8 hrs. I said tht cuz tht guy said he ate for for 8hrs and didn't for 16. I couldn't get enough in in 8hrs is what I was saying. I get all my cals in, but def not in 8hrs. More like 12hrs. idk if it would work or not. I'm just scared it won't & don't really understand it. That's why I'm still in this thread. No 1 in my circle does it, so I'm not familiar w/ it. I'm just stating why I feel it wouldn't work for me to see if I could b wrong, cuz idk ab it. There is so many thing in the diet world, a lot contradict others so u just have to ask about it, find out more & then decide what u believe.
I think it would be a challenge to do IF if you are set on doing extensive cardio in the morning. You could set your eating window around doing that, as there is nothing that says you have to eat later in the day specifically, but I don't think I have heard about anyone that does their window early in the day. I think you would get hungry later on. It seems more natural to go to sleep and then continue your fast for a couple hours. But I'm no expert here, I was just trying to show how you can have high calorie burn days while practicing IF. Some of mine are 1100 calorie cardio days, in the evening, in the middle of my eating window.
So I would stop eating sumtime in the evening/night, go over night & continue a little while in the morning?0 -
Im sure your body would adapt pretty quick, we spent most of our evolution having to catch breakfast, farming is a new thing in realityI was having that problem. It got to the point I was only getting about 800 cal a day in, partly because of my work schedule. I went to IF. I found that when I break my fast and eat a 600 cal dinner. The next morning I wake up and I am hungry. I have no problems getting my calories in now.
I always get my cals in, but I space them out. I just ate my last snack ab 2 hrs ago.
You just said you should be getting 1600 but are only get 1200. I doubt at 1200 your even eating at BMR. I'm not telling you to do IF. It is a personal preference. But earlier you said it wouldn't work because of xyz, now your saying it wouldn't work because of abc. There are many ways to skin a cat. If what your doing is working for you great. IF works for alot of people. My results have been amazing.
I get in 1200 in 8 hrs. I said tht cuz tht guy said he ate for for 8hrs and didn't for 16. I couldn't get enough in in 8hrs is what I was saying. I get all my cals in, but def not in 8hrs. More like 12hrs. idk if it would work or not. I'm just scared it won't & don't really understand it. That's why I'm still in this thread. No 1 in my circle does it, so I'm not familiar w/ it. I'm just stating why I feel it wouldn't work for me to see if I could b wrong, cuz idk ab it. There is so many thing in the diet world, a lot contradict others so u just have to ask about it, find out more & then decide what u believe.
I think it would be a challenge to do IF if you are set on doing extensive cardio in the morning. You could set your eating window around doing that, as there is nothing that says you have to eat later in the day specifically, but I don't think I have heard about anyone that does their window early in the day. I think you would get hungry later on. It seems more natural to go to sleep and then continue your fast for a couple hours. But I'm no expert here, I was just trying to show how you can have high calorie burn days while practicing IF. Some of mine are 1100 calorie cardio days, in the evening, in the middle of my eating window.
So I would stop eating sumtime in the evening/night, go over night & continue a little while in the morning?0 -
absolutely.. This is what me and a friend did. We figured out my TDEE or what I would eat at maintenance. Subtracted 20% for my deficit. Multiplied that by 7 days to figure out my weekly caloric intake. This is what my week looks like. I vary my fast day depending on whats going on.
Sunday 1600 (Start fast 6pm)
Monday 600 (Break fast 6pm)
Tuesday 1900
Wednesday 1900 (Start fast 6pm)
Thursday 600 (Break fast 6pm)
Friday 1900
Sat. 1600
Its just calorie cycling. I don't workout nearly as much as you. I do have a physically intensive job. I lift with a trainer 1 day a week. Hike the mountain 2-3 miles 1-2 days a week. Do body weight exercises at home 1 day a week. I dont eat within a window. Some do. I do a 24 hour fast not 16. It works for my lifestyle. I work 12 hour shifts. I try to fast on my work days.0 -
Yes exactly- I eat from noon to 8 pm, and sometimes 9 or even 10 if its a really long cardio day. So I eat until 8 (or 9 or 10) and then go to bed, and don't eat until I have a big brunch at noon the next day. So then for intense cardio days, I will have a smaller "lunch" around 3, just to make sure I have enough calories/carbs to support the exercise, I'll run in the evening, then have a protein shake and then a big dinner. On my weightlifting days I may or may not have the in between meal- but it's pretty much always two big meals and one protein shake. Its not that different from a standard 3-meal day, it's just the timing is a bit different.
So I would stop eating sumtime in the evening/night, go over night & continue a little while in the morning?
ETA: The post above mine is the ESE (Eat stop eat) method, mine is more like leangains, a 16/8 approach. They're two different styles of IF.0 -
I had to do a liquid diet for several days about a month ago. Yes I lost quite a bit of weight but then it's hard to keep it off once I could eat again so I would advise not to do it.
A liquid diet has NOTHING TO DO with intermittent fasting.
Seriously...will you people (and this is only partially directed at the person I quoted) please educate yourselves before telling people not to do something?
I wish to God that whoever named this method of eating had called it 'Caloric Cycling' instead of 'Intermittent Fasting'. No one *****es about zig zag diets...yet this, which is just a different expression of that method...is unhealthy?
email me when you change your picture so i can visit the forums again.
ps the butt bible seems to be working good for you.
Dude...quit looking at my *kitten*! You're making ME uncomfortable!!
:laugh:
So that's your secret!
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I see what you are saying it would appear to be sensible advice , but totality disagree!
you want to rely on something that you know you can stick with (ie. regular* eating patterns...) for someone who is just trying to get down to a normal bodyweight there is no reason to try different gimmicks, diets, supplements, tricks, etc. whether they work or not... if i were you i would establish that i know how to administer self control then if you can get urself down to an acceptable bodyweight then go from there if you choose to do intermittent fasting.
Really? and why is intermittent fasting so bad if your obese, this interests me?DONT
yeh... please dont do it. especially if you have obese body fat levels dont even consider it. just learn to eat sensibly and count calories and macros.
Feel free to rip into me
i was wondering the same thing....and i have been counting calories and eating right....i just want to try something different....
people try to overcomplicate things when it comes to getting in shape, simplicity leads to success.0 -
Rubbish some peoples stomachs grumble every 30mins to an hour, does that mean they need feeding or something bad going to happen?i don't agree with the idea of fasting, and neither does my doctor. You need to eat food. Your body requires it. There is a reason why your stomach starts to hurt and grumble after mere hours of not eating. :grumble:0 -
I see what you are saying it would appear to be sensible advice , but totality disagree!
you want to rely on something that you know you can stick with (ie. regular* eating patterns...) for someone who is just trying to get down to a normal bodyweight there is no reason to try different gimmicks, diets, supplements, tricks, etc. whether they work or not... if i were you i would establish that i know how to administer self control then if you can get urself down to an acceptable bodyweight then go from there if you choose to do intermittent fasting.
Really? and why is intermittent fasting so bad if your obese, this interests me?DONT
yeh... please dont do it. especially if you have obese body fat levels dont even consider it. just learn to eat sensibly and count calories and macros.
Feel free to rip into me
i was wondering the same thing....and i have been counting calories and eating right....i just want to try something different....
people try to overcomplicate things when it comes to getting in shape, simplicity leads to success.
If is like having a cheat meal everyday how can that be bad eating 1500 cals in one meal is a hell of a meal0 -
Rubbish some peoples stomachs grumble every 30mins to an hour, does that mean they need feeding or something bad going to happen?i don't agree with the idea of fasting, and neither does my doctor. You need to eat food. Your body requires it. There is a reason why your stomach starts to hurt and grumble after mere hours of not eating. :grumble:
Exactly!! What's wrong with feeling hungry sometimes? It's the NOT feeling hungry ever that made us all get fat in the first place!!0 -
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I do IF everyday and get all my calories from 1 pm to 8pm. It work for my lifestyle. It is not a way to cut your calories.... I still eat 1700 calories a day but in a shorter window.
If you fast for a day make sure you distribute the calories you do not eat to other days.
Good luck
I too have recently taken up daily intermittent fasting. I'm still eating 1600 calories/day but between 12pm and 8pm. I have been feeling great since I started. The 1.5 to 2 pounds per week has been a constant. I was surprised how quickly my body adjusted. I don't begin to feel hungry until 11:45am or so. Right before it's time for me to eat. I would suggest anyone to at least try it...providing you don't have any diabetic issues.0 -
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The links on this thread have been pretty interesting, enough that I want to try it. Mostly because I struggle with eating when not hungry (even when I know I'm not hungry), so I'm hoping a fasting method will help me get better self control.
It sounds like it works for a lot of people, enough so that it's worth a try to see if it works for me. The 16/8 seems a pretty common one, and it seems like it'd work for my school life and work life (away from 530am until 1030pm most days, with only short breaks).
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I researched hard before I did my first fast. There is 'evidence' for and against if you look long enough to find it. I found the legnthy fasts too tough and felt my body was reacting to preser wwwve me HOWEVER a short fast really helps my system and mentally it is useful. I also worried about starvation mode but found that the body does not enter this process fully until 72 hours in, don't get me wrong changes happen in that first 24 hours but it doesnt affect your brain etc as a rule until 48 hours, and the first 24 uses up your free calorie stores such as starts breaking down fat reserves, this didn't sound like a bad thing. For m- this,e I will use lemon water and herbal teas0
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I researched hard before I did my first fast. There is 'evidence' for and against if you look long enough to find it. I found the legnthy fasts too tough and felt my body was reacting to preser wwwve me HOWEVER a short fast really helps my system and mentally it is useful. I also worried about starvation mode but found that the body does not enter this process fully until 72 hours in, don't get me wrong changes happen in that first 24 hours but it doesnt affect your brain etc as a rule until 48 hours, and the first 24 uses up your free calorie stores such as starts breaking down fat reserves, this didn't sound like a bad thing. For m- this,e I will use lemon water and herbal teas
same here i don't think i will ever do a lengthy one. i'm gona start off w just the one 24 hr one then maybe later on down the road i will try the two a week. see which one works better for me.
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I have been on MFP for about 3-4 weeks and I'm going pretty good at sticking to my calorie goals. I came across IF and I really think that the 16/8 fast is something I could do. My only concern is the lack of real exercise at the moment. It's a lot harder for me to get to the gym than it is to go without eating. Currently the most exercise I'm getting is 30-60 minutes of brisk walking and about 5-10 minutes of walking up stairs.
Is IF effective without regular exercise? Will it help me lose weight if I don't put in time at the gym?0 -
Ha! I created a video regarding my negative results with IF.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4gQriubibU
At the end of the day, do whatever works for you. However, don't expect IF to give you magical gains, like some people claim it does.0 -
The lack of cardio was the biggest factor and walking doesn't cut it. As I stated in the video, having an eating window is just stupid and goes against what IF is all about.... not being confined to multiple meals. while you're not confined to multiple meals, you're just confined to a small *kitten* eating window!Ha! I created a video regarding my negative results with IF.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4gQriubibU
At the end of the day, do whatever works for you. However, don't expect IF to give you magical gains, like some people claim it does.
I saw the video, there was some changes the yohmibne HCl and a bit more cardio. That could have effected your results. I have been doing IF for a long time, i find nothing special about it. Today i was actually thinking to myself "it's pretty dumb to do it" I have been seeing your posts on your weight loss and you seem to be doing very well.
At the end of the day, it's all about hitting the macros. I eat whenever and when I want, those times for the most part are around my workout.0 -
I have been on MFP for about 3-4 weeks and I'm going pretty good at sticking to my calorie goals. I came across IF and I really think that the 16/8 fast is something I could do. My only concern is the lack of real exercise at the moment. It's a lot harder for me to get to the gym than it is to go without eating. Currently the most exercise I'm getting is 30-60 minutes of brisk walking and about 5-10 minutes of walking up stairs.
Is IF effective without regular exercise? Will it help me lose weight if I don't put in time at the gym?
Why can't you do bodyweight workouts?0 -
I have been on MFP for about 3-4 weeks and I'm going pretty good at sticking to my calorie goals. I came across IF and I really think that the 16/8 fast is something I could do. My only concern is the lack of real exercise at the moment. It's a lot harder for me to get to the gym than it is to go without eating. Currently the most exercise I'm getting is 30-60 minutes of brisk walking and about 5-10 minutes of walking up stairs.
Is IF effective without regular exercise? Will it help me lose weight if I don't put in time at the gym?
Why can't you do bodyweight workouts?
I guess I could/should. I just haven't so far(Lazy!). So I was curious about IF. I found this and it seems to suggest good results even without much exercise (http://www.leangains.com/2011/03/intermittent-fasting-for-weight-loss.html)
But, I will start working out at home. Hopefully today!0 -
Look on my profile...there's a great bodyweight workout there.0
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