Protein Shakes??

Now your body only utilizes about 16-17% of protein powder, the rest goes to waste,

Complete and utter bull****.

Whey is among the most bioavailable forms of protein you can ingest, which means that your body is utilizing it MORE than most whole foods.

It has been said that whey protein is 100% bioavailable and is therefore 100% absorbed into the body. Bioavailability is how much of what you are ingesting is absorbed by the body yet it says nothing to how much is actually “utilized” by the body. The statements are correct about the 100% bioavailability yet the problem with this statement, and to your detriment, is that it is absorbed, processed through the kidneys and then expelled as bodily waste.

Stop making things up.




Biological value (BV) is a measure of the proportion of absorbed protein from a food which becomes incorporated into the proteins of the organism's body. It summarises how readily the broken down protein can be used in protein synthesis in the cells of the organism.


Protein efficiency ratio (PER) is based on the weight gain of a test subject divided by its intake of a particular food protein during the test period.


The net protein utilization, or NPU, is the ratio of amino acid converted to proteins to the ratio of amino acids supplied. This figure is somewhat affected by the salvage of essential amino acids within the body, but is profoundly affected by the level of limiting amino acids within a foodstuff.
Experimentally, this value can be determined by determining dietary protein intake and then measuring nitrogen excretion. One formula for NPU is:
NPU = ((0.16 × (24 hour protein intake in grams)) - ((24 hour urinary urea nitrogen) + 2) - (0.1 × (ideal body weight in kilograms))) / (0.16 × (24 hour protein intake in grams))
As a value, NPU can range from 1 to 0, with a value of 1 indicating 100% utilization of dietary nitrogen as protein and a value of 0 an indication that none of the nitrogen supplied was converted to protein.

Using the PDCAAS method, the protein quality rankings are determined by comparing the amino acid profile of the specific food protein against a standard amino acid profile with the highest possible score being a 1.0. This score means, after digestion of the protein, it provides per unit of protein 100 percent or more of the indispensable amino acids required.


Whey protein scores at or near the top of every single criterion for determining protein quality. These measure more than just absorption, but utilization as well.

Although each method, taken individually, may have its limitations - taken as a whole the evidence for the superior quality of whey is unequivocal.

Do either of you have anything to back it up? I'm curious if there is a real scientific answer to this question

You can start with the link in my first post. Also see Lyle McDonald's series on protein (first part here http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/what-are-good-sources-of-protein-protein-quality.html)

Her numbers, so far as I can tell, were pulled directly out of her *kitten*.

Haha you can buy his protein book for $49.95 to learn all about proten!

It's pretty sad you have to come back with smart *kitten* remarks and images. I've looked at other post made by you and you are quick to do that to a lot of people here.

Our bodies need a lot more than just Protein. Could you imagine eating a slab of meat for every meal and that's it? We need balanced nutrients to continue to thrive. High protein diets put the body in starvation mode and eat muscle tissue to survive. Since the heart is a muscle, do you really wanna do that? You might lose weight cause your starving, but you will put it back on so fast...
There's better shakes that offer a lot more of a balanced diet than just Protein.. Wanna know?

Haha you can buy his protein book for $49.95 to learn all about proten!

I suggest you do so. It's a phenomenal reference.

Haha you can buy his protein book for $49.95 to learn all about proten!

I suggest you do so. It's a phenomenal reference.

Not if the end results are looking like he does. No thank you!

I respect Lyle because of his credentials, but to be honest the fact that I've never seen anything that suggest he actually applies his knowledge to his own body makes me take everything he says with a grain of salt.

Whey is among the most bioavailable forms of protein you can ingest, which means that your body is utilizing it MORE than most whole foods.



http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=10867064

Haha you can buy his protein book for $49.95 to learn all about proten!

I suggest you do so. It's a phenomenal reference.

Not if the end results are looking like he does. No thank you!

I respect Lyle because of his credentials, but to be honest the fact that I've never seen anything that suggest he actually applies his knowledge to his own body makes me take everything he says with a grain of salt.

He's an endurance athlete. His physique is consistent with his goals.

Google Tommy (Sporto) Jeffers. Just one of many that have applied Lyle's Methods.

Did a quick search and most of what I am seeing is he actually used Derek Charlebois for his diet on many occasions. Perhaps at some point he followed some of Lyles methods, but that doesn't mean anything. Lyle alone didn't get him looking the way he does. Plus, I know guys that look better than he does and they didn't follow Lyles methods at all. So his methods aren't the only way to go.

But again, to me, I'll take my advice from those that are actually applying and living the lifestyle that I am also living.

Perhaps this is why you are so ill informed.

Sorry what was the question again?

Typical slimfast shake is 230 cals, 15g protein, 23 carbs (of which sugars 23) 7 fat, 3.5 fibre and sodium 0.23.

I spose u cud eat sumthn better fr u with same amount ov calories. I find it easier fr breakfast as i dont like to eat til abt lunchtime. Ur meant to have one fr brekky, one fr lunch and a normal dinner, but im cuttin out the lunch one and havn sumthn ov equal cals, but less fat.

I am no expert on weight loss. If I was I wouldn't be trying to loss weight now. But I am excellent at research. Don't pay for information you can find for free on the internet. Just look for a .org sight because these will include medical research rather than a mix off good information and false information.
http://www.hussmanfitness.org/html/TFPostProtein.html

This covers why it is good to use protein shakes after a workout as well as how much you should have. Hope this helps.