depression
foxyforce
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I feel totally comfortable posting this on here because I don't really have anyone to talk to outside of here.
I suffer from some pretty severe depression. I do not take medication, simply because I don't believe in it. Yesterday I was awake for about 5 hours of the whole day, and did nothing. I recently quit a really ****ty job with the worst micromanager. I have amazing skills and constantly feel underutilized. (p.s. I still work part time at two different jobs, but it is on call and the time between shifts is unbearable). I am engaged to a wonderful man. I have no friends, and it is not like I don't try. I just find people to be totally selfish and I hate putting in so much effort for people that can only talk about themselves, are sexist, racist, and overall to me boring. Although, I still put in effort because I hate being alone and I am a party girl at heart.
All of this impacts my health. I don't know why I get up in the morning so I don't even know why I exercise or eat healthy. I try, I really do.
Does anyone else have an issue like this? I am looking for tips at dealing with this and seeing a doctor is not an option (or a counsellor, I work in the mental health field and know way too many people at almost every agency in the surrounding area).
Thanks for reading, if you did!
I suffer from some pretty severe depression. I do not take medication, simply because I don't believe in it. Yesterday I was awake for about 5 hours of the whole day, and did nothing. I recently quit a really ****ty job with the worst micromanager. I have amazing skills and constantly feel underutilized. (p.s. I still work part time at two different jobs, but it is on call and the time between shifts is unbearable). I am engaged to a wonderful man. I have no friends, and it is not like I don't try. I just find people to be totally selfish and I hate putting in so much effort for people that can only talk about themselves, are sexist, racist, and overall to me boring. Although, I still put in effort because I hate being alone and I am a party girl at heart.
All of this impacts my health. I don't know why I get up in the morning so I don't even know why I exercise or eat healthy. I try, I really do.
Does anyone else have an issue like this? I am looking for tips at dealing with this and seeing a doctor is not an option (or a counsellor, I work in the mental health field and know way too many people at almost every agency in the surrounding area).
Thanks for reading, if you did!
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I'm sure there are volunteer group sessions around?
Well to start off make yourself get up, and follow a good meal plan daily, also keep up the exercise it will make you feel better.
Really too bad you're too stubborn to get professional help, you're playing with fire. good luck0 -
I'm sure there are volunteer group sessions around?
Well to start off make yourself get up, and follow a good meal plan daily, also keep up the exercise it will make you feel better.
Really too bad you're too stubborn to get professional help, you're playing with fire. good luck
most professionals really don't know what they are doing anyway, i have worked with enough of the goofballs!0 -
I understand what you're going through- I've been diagnosed with depression myself. Although you said you don't believe in medication, I highly encourage you to try it. I'm on Prozac and my outlook on everything has just been so much brighter and happier. My tolerance towards everything has gone up and I've been a lot more carefree. My attitude has improved in every aspect.
I'm sure there is a type of support group you could join though. Also, I know how I eat definitely changes my mood. The less processed food I eat, the better I feel. I found that doing yoga regularly helps a bunch too.0 -
Hi Hun
I have been in your shoes. Last August I walked out of a job I hated, i just had enough, the long hours, the horrible manager and it really made me feel down.
I went to see my doctor as i wasnt sleeping well because of it and he diagnosed with me severe depression, I have since then been taking Citalopram 20mg a day.
I feel much better and feel I am getting myself back and feeling better about myself.
Ive also got a lovely new job that i enjoy and that has helped too.
If you need someone to talk to feel free to add me.
Love Stacey xxx0 -
I feel totally comfortable posting this on here because I don't really have anyone to talk to outside of here.
I suffer from some pretty severe depression. I do not take medication, simply because I don't believe in it. Yesterday I was awake for about 5 hours of the whole day, and did nothing. I recently quit a really ****ty job with the worst micromanager. I have amazing skills and constantly feel underutilized. (p.s. I still work part time at two different jobs, but it is on call and the time between shifts is unbearable). I am engaged to a wonderful man. I have no friends, and it is not like I don't try. I just find people to be totally selfish and I hate putting in so much effort for people that can only talk about themselves, are sexist, racist, and overall to me boring. Although, I still put in effort because I hate being alone and I am a party girl at heart.
All of this impacts my health. I don't know why I get up in the morning so I don't even know why I exercise or eat healthy. I try, I really do.
Does anyone else have an issue like this? I am looking for tips at dealing with this and seeing a doctor is not an option (or a counsellor, I work in the mental health field and know way too many people at almost every agency in the surrounding area).
Thanks for reading, if you did!
I don't mean to sound cruel but maybe since you "don't believe in" medcation you haven't hit your lowest. I encourage you seek treatment before you do.
I wouldn't wish those dark days and hopeless nights on anyone.0 -
I don't *not* believe in medications for mental issues, but I was/am too anxious to see a doctor to get on any, so that's why I wasn't on them. I was taking 5http and st john's wort to help with depression and that helped a bit, but what really has helped was changing my diet - I'm not eating any rice/pasta/bread/sweets and I no longer take those supplements and I feel better than I have in years. I'd suggest trying that for a little while and maybe reconsidering medications if your depression is not mostly situational. Good luck.
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I completely understand! And don't let people get on you for not taking medication. Statistically anti-depressants do not work. I am going to message you with some info.0
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One good start would be to change your depressing ID name0
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I don't understand why you "don't believe in" medication. I have many friends who suffer from depression and say the medication they take helps them live normal lives. Science can really help a lot of people who have their own chemical imbalances. Would you not take medicine if you had pneumonia? I suffer from allergies and take medicine every day so I can breathe. Depression is a disease, just like any other. If there are medical treatments out there for it, why wouldn't you at least try them out? What have you got to lose?0
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Please don't be offended by what I'm about to suggest. :mad: I've read the remarks and I agree with each and I see your point as well. Have you thought about prayer during these times? I'm not one to push religion and believe it gets pushed way to much on others, just a suggestion.0
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Whichever direction you choose...meds, Dr's, therapy, etc.
Please make a choice.
You definitely don't know me, but I care about all life.
Hate to see it not lived to it's full potential.
I have experienced severe depression in my family.
They both took a turn for the worse.
For yourself and anyone you care about.
Do the right thing...please
You can add me as a friend.
I love to laugh, have fun on here cruising through the forums.
Cracking myself up mostly.
A little laughter couldn't hurt...right?
Wish you the best in all you do!:flowerforyou: !:drinker: :flowerforyou:
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I have been diagnosed with chronic depression, and I refuse medication because I do not believe in the man-made crap. I am a big believer in "mind over matter", and have noticed some serious changes since I started just living. I have few friends - the most interaction I get is from my two kids and their father. I have those days as well, where I just don't wanna do anything. The house gets bad, and that just makes me even more depressed - I never seem to have the drive to clean the house, because seeing how dirty it is drives me back down into depression. I have to set my mind to everything I do; I have to tell myself "No more excuses, this stuff needs to get done."
Positive affirmations seem to help with a lot of people who suffer depression - I always feel cheesy doing it, and I have heard that a lot of people feel that way at first, but showing yourself love can really pull you out of the depression. Pampering oneself also tends to help - take a hot bath with tons of bubbles, give yourself a pedicure.
I've tried so many medications that I balk at the idea of putting more of those chemicals in my body. The best thing, in terms of 'professional' care, that I can suggest is look for a therapist. Not someone who just wants to dumb you up with medication, but someone who will just listen and talk you through your issues. I found that, aside from the mind over matter, that talking with someone helps. Express your dislike of medications, and really make sure they understand you do not want to take any - you just want to talk.
I know you can be the best that you can, you just need to try. Love yourself, and that will lift your spirits higher.
Peace, Love and Light.0 -
I think everyone from time to time struggles with depression issues (some more than others). It seems like you really need to take a good look in the mirror and imagine where you want to be in life. Do you have a college degree? What are you ambitious about? Are you happy with your health and body?
Once you fix yourself, then you can start dealing with social anxiety or anything else you suffer from. This is not an overnight solution and can take years to fix, but it'll be worth it. Medication should be the last resort in this case.0 -
Let's see if I have this right?
You don't believe in meds. You don't get out of bed. You don't believe counselors know what they are doing. You don't have friends because you don't like people. You hated your job, you are underemployed but it's not your fault.
You are coming on our forums to basically complain about your life.
No wonder you are depressed. Change your outlook.0 -
Let's see if I have this right?
You don't believe in meds. You don't get out of bed. You don't believe counselors know what they are doing. You don't have friends because you don't like people. You hated your job, you are underemployed but it's not your fault.
You are coming on our forums to basically complain about your life.
No wonder you are depressed. Change your outlook.
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One good start would be to change your depressing ID name
No need to be snarky. I don't have this problem but, like the OP, I work in mental health. Believe me, if you knew and saw what "we" do you would be much less likely to believe in meds and the professionals. It can be hard to seek help when you have been exposed to the realities of the field.
OP- That being said, I do think that you should seek some professional help. As I'm sure you know, there are some great professionals and some great support groups.0 -
I DO agree with the person who said that if you "don't believe in meds", you haven't hit bottom.
I have had depression and anxiety all of my life. I know, along with you, there are some serious whack jobs in the mental health profession. I was on meds up till I was 25, then went off because nothing seemed to help and none the of therapists seemed to listen, or understand. Then this year, I DID hit bottom and, despite all the other holistic options I have tried, the next step was getting back on meds. Only now, *I* am more educated on the drugs and meds options. I am really happy I took the plunge to try again.
A medical option you may consider that is more the holistic direction is Acupuncture.
Anyway, if you are that hellbent on not taking meds, some holistic things that I do (and still do) and you may find to be beneficial are:
- Exercise (anything that gets your heart pumping and endorphins flowing)
- Meditation... Sitting still and focusing for at least 5 minutes a day. Low, soft music, a candle lit. Or go to the park and listen to the trees. Etc.
- Crafting/Art... whether it is crafting, art, poetry, or music. A hobby that, again, focuses your energy
- Aromatherapy.... Look into scents that are helpful in relieving stress and anxiety. and burn candles and oils of that scent.
- Clean Eating... remove all gluten from your diet. No pasta, no bread, no cakes. All natural, all clean. Grass feed animals, etc.
- Vitamin D..... highest form is Cod Liver Oil (I take capsules).0 -
Let's see if I have this right?
You don't believe in meds. You don't get out of bed. You don't believe counselors know what they are doing. You don't have friends because you don't like people. You hated your job, you are underemployed but it's not your fault.
You are coming on our forums to basically complain about your life.
No wonder you are depressed. Change your outlook.
It's harsh, but I have to agree with this. Barring therapy and medication, one of the biggest things that can make you happier is having people in your life that you care about and can talk to. I don't know you, so maybe this is a wrong assumption, but it sounds like you don't have enough patience with people. If you think EVERYONE is trifling and not worth your time, then I thnk you haven't gotten to know enough people. It's hard to find true friends, and sometimes even the best ones let you down, but they're what makes life bearable.
To me, it sounds like you have a clinical problem and need to talk to someone. If you won't do that, and you won't try to open yourself up to people, and you won't force yourself out of bed--then I don't know what to tell you. And I don't think anybody else's suggestions will help either.0 -
I feel totally comfortable posting this on here because I don't really have anyone to talk to outside of here.
I suffer from some pretty severe depression. I do not take medication, simply because I don't believe in it. Yesterday I was awake for about 5 hours of the whole day, and did nothing. I recently quit a really ****ty job with the worst micromanager. I have amazing skills and constantly feel underutilized. (p.s. I still work part time at two different jobs, but it is on call and the time between shifts is unbearable). I am engaged to a wonderful man. I have no friends, and it is not like I don't try. I just find people to be totally selfish and I hate putting in so much effort for people that can only talk about themselves, are sexist, racist, and overall to me boring. Although, I still put in effort because I hate being alone and I am a party girl at heart.
All of this impacts my health. I don't know why I get up in the morning so I don't even know why I exercise or eat healthy. I try, I really do.
Does anyone else have an issue like this? I am looking for tips at dealing with this and seeing a doctor is not an option (or a counsellor, I work in the mental health field and know way too many people at almost every agency in the surrounding area).
Thanks for reading, if you did!
I don't mean to sound cruel but maybe since you "don't believe in" medcation you haven't hit your lowest. I encourage you seek treatment before you do.
I wouldn't wish those dark days and hopeless nights on anyone.
i know far more about medication than someone who just takes it....i work in the mental health field and see people turned to zombies, taking tonnes of pills from 16-60. thanks for your opinion, but it is SO far off base.0 -
Hi,
In the past I have had days that everything looked totally negative. I wonder if you are just having a bad day, maybe associated with pms? Do you feel like this every day or just once in a while? I would keep a diary of my feelings. I feel people can figure out what helps them and what does not. What works for one person (counseling, meds) may not work for another. I would encourage the healthy diet and exercise and reaching out to friends who understand.0 -
Maybe a change of scenery can do wonders for you. I had really bad SAD when I lived in the northeast (Boston specifically). Since I moved to Florida years ago, I feel 100x better year round.0
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One good start would be to change your depressing ID name
No need to be snarky. I don't have this problem but, like the OP, I work in mental health. Believe me, if you knew and saw what "we" do you would be much less likely to believe in meds and the professionals. It can be hard to seek help when you have been exposed to the realities of the field.
OP- That being said, I do think that you should seek some professional help. As I'm sure you know, there are some great professionals and some great support groups.
thank you! but honestly, i am so well resourced in my field that i know of ALL the support groups and i know of so many people from different agencies from scheduling workshops, referrals, health fairs, and other types of partnerships. i don't feel my confidentiality would be valued at all if i was to seek a support group.
and fyi to all the people that say you need to just change your outlook. that is what i am trying to do. it REALLY isn't that simple.a nd also an FYI i don't believe in god, i will not turn to prayer or whatever. i am looking for support and advice from people that know that medication really isn't great for you (psychiatrists that sit on a board "creating" mental disorders, really aren't going to dictate what is and isn't good for my brain. the side effects are far worse than what i am going through now and i am not going to put that **** in my body. antibiotics ARE different, so the reference does not apply)0 -
I feel totally comfortable posting this on here because I don't really have anyone to talk to outside of here.
I suffer from some pretty severe depression. I do not take medication, simply because I don't believe in it. Yesterday I was awake for about 5 hours of the whole day, and did nothing. I recently quit a really ****ty job with the worst micromanager. I have amazing skills and constantly feel underutilized. (p.s. I still work part time at two different jobs, but it is on call and the time between shifts is unbearable). I am engaged to a wonderful man. I have no friends, and it is not like I don't try. I just find people to be totally selfish and I hate putting in so much effort for people that can only talk about themselves, are sexist, racist, and overall to me boring. Although, I still put in effort because I hate being alone and I am a party girl at heart.
All of this impacts my health. I don't know why I get up in the morning so I don't even know why I exercise or eat healthy. I try, I really do.
Does anyone else have an issue like this? I am looking for tips at dealing with this and seeing a doctor is not an option (or a counsellor, I work in the mental health field and know way too many people at almost every agency in the surrounding area).
Thanks for reading, if you did!
I don't mean to sound cruel but maybe since you "don't believe in" medcation you haven't hit your lowest. I encourage you seek treatment before you do.
I wouldn't wish those dark days and hopeless nights on anyone.
i know far more about medication than someone who just takes it....i work in the mental health field and see people turned to zombies, taking tonnes of pills from 16-60. thanks for your opinion, but it is SO far off base.
Belittling someone else's experience with their own depression and trying to offer you help is also way off base.0 -
Been there and done that.
I finally woke up one day and looked outside, and it was a beautiful day, and I sat there and thought to myself; I said " You know, what a pretty day outside, and there are going to be plenty of days out there like that, I can get out and enjoy it or sit here and rot."
I got out and enjoyed it. You know the old saying it's mind over matter? It really IS. It simply is just that. Change your frame of mind. At one point we all changed our diet, do the same with how you choose to view things.
I can relate to not having a positive outlook on people in general as well, but it is too easy to get stuck in a negative frame of mind. Refuse to let yourself do that, and refuse to waste another day in bed with the "poor me's " syndrome.0 -
Fake til you make it has always been my solution. Although my depressiom come in bouts. Every six months or so i fall into a severe depression. I've been this way since i was ten or so years old. I hide it very well for the most part but it eats att me. The only things i have found helpful is reflecting on my dreams to see whats wrong and go from there. I have veryy vivid dreams that i can remember. I put the infomation to good use (while not feeling depressed) and i try to figure out whats wrong. Eating and excersize has helped me so much as well, it really takes the edge off. I just push myself into normality rather than sulk in my depression. I do have days where i am physically and mentally paralyzed, i saddly have noadvice on that. What i do in short : force feed yourself normality while proactivley fixing your issues.0
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Let's see if I have this right?
You don't believe in meds. You don't get out of bed. You don't believe counselors know what they are doing. You don't have friends because you don't like people. You hated your job, you are underemployed but it's not your fault.
You are coming on our forums to basically complain about your life.
No wonder you are depressed. Change your outlook.
It's harsh, but I have to agree with this. Barring therapy and medication, one of the biggest things that can make you happier is having people in your life that you care about and can talk to. I don't know you, so maybe this is a wrong assumption, but it sounds like you don't have enough patience with people. If you think EVERYONE is trifling and not worth your time, then I thnk you haven't gotten to know enough people. It's hard to find true friends, and sometimes even the best ones let you down, but they're what makes life bearable.
To me, it sounds like you have a clinical problem and need to talk to someone. If you won't do that, and you won't try to open yourself up to people, and you won't force yourself out of bed--then I don't know what to tell you. And I don't think anybody else's suggestions will help either.
i also highly dislike arrogance. please read my full post before making any comment. i know a lot about the mental health field, from a providers view, and i am one of the more professional workers. and i also know someone from most of the not-for-profit mental health professionals in the surrounding area, so that is NOT an option. finding a great worker is hard, finding a great worker that i don't already know is way harder.
and i never said everyone is trifling and not worth my time. and i don't even have the energy to finish my thought on that.
there are qualities of people, it isn't that i haven't found them, it is that i haven't found any that want to spend any time with me...instead of themselves.0 -
Maybe consider an entirely different approach, then. There are lots of studies indicating that proper diet and exercise may help decrease or eliminate depression in many people. I've seen a huge difference for myself since I started consistently eating foods that help alleviate depression over the past 4 years. There is plenty of info online if you want to look into it.
If you consume wheat I'd also recommend reading the book "Wheat Belly" for some other ideas.0 -
Fake til you make it has always been my solution. Although my depressiom come in bouts. Every six months or so i fall into a severe depression. I've been this way since i was ten or so years old. I hide it very well for the most part but it eats att me. The only things i have found helpful is reflecting on my dreams to see whats wrong and go from there. I have veryy vivid dreams that i can remember. I put the infomation to good use (while not feeling depressed) and i try to figure out whats wrong. Eating and excersize has helped me so much as well, it really takes the edge off. I just push myself into normality rather than sulk in my depression. I do have days where i am physically and mentally paralyzed, i saddly have noadvice on that. What i do in short : force feed yourself normality while proactivley fixing your issues.
thank you for your post without shoving your opinions down my throat.
i do try the fake it till you make it stuff, but i am in the paralysis stage...0 -
Maybe consider an entirely different approach, then. There are lots of studies indicating that proper diet and exercise may help decrease or eliminate depression in many people. I've seen a huge difference for myself since I started consistently eating foods that help alleviate depression over the past 4 years. There is plenty of info online if you want to look into it.
If you consume wheat I'd also recommend reading the book "Wheat Belly" for some other ideas.
thank you.0 -
I would make one of your priorities your diet. Meaning make sure ALL your vitamins and minerals are spot on. At least do a Google search and find out what vitamins/minerals are important for combating depression. It makes a big difference and is a good place to start. Best wishes!!! :flowerforyou:0
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