what foods dont have protein in?

pinkpip
pinkpip Posts: 57 Member
edited December 22 in Food and Nutrition
i have ate my dinner andi have calories left but no remaining protein therefore i wondering if any one knows of any snacks not including protein?
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  • JenMc14
    JenMc14 Posts: 2,389 Member
    I personally don't consider it a big deal to go over on protein so long as you're not going way, way over on a regular basis. You could try osmething like popcorn or some fruit. If there's any protein, it's likely not a lot.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    MFP has the protein setting way way way way too low. I have mine at 120-150 grams.
  • pinkpip
    pinkpip Posts: 57 Member
    im trying to lose weight for my holidays, but i've overate ofmy protein now at work, whenill need to be picking i can't because ive overate on my protein!:(
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    im trying to lose weight for my holidays, but i've overate ofmy protein now at work, whenill need to be picking i can't because ive overate on my protein!:(
    Again. DON'T SWEAT IT. MFP has protein set too low.

    Most folks say .75 or 1 gram of protein for every pound of lean body mass. I weigh 133, and eat between 120-150 grams of protein depending on my workouts.
  • pinkpip
    pinkpip Posts: 57 Member
    i weighed 132 pound how many grams of protiten am i alloud to eat?
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    MFP has the protein setting way way way way too low. I have mine at 120-150 grams.

    This is an incorrect and potentially dangerous statement.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    i weighed 132 pound how many grams of protiten am i alloud to eat?
    How many do you NEED. Protein is not evil. You NEED protein.

    What is your body fat percentage? If you don't know, safely shoot for around 100 grams a day. That may be a little low. But not as low as MFP.
  • broxi1979
    broxi1979 Posts: 30
    How is this a dangerous statement, if you are losing weight and over-eat on any of your macros, make sure it's protein and not carbs.

    I agree that MFP by default is way too low on Protein, this is why I customise my macros to take in about 50% protein, 30% carbs and 20% fats.

    Give or take.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    How is this a dangerous statement, if you are losing weight and over-eat on any of your macros, make sure it's protein and not carbs.

    I agree that MFP by default is way too low on Protein, this is why I customise my macros to take in about 50% protein, 30% carbs and 20% fats.

    Give or take.
    Yep. Mine is 40P 30C 30F
  • BerryH
    BerryH Posts: 4,698 Member
    See your protein goal as a target not a limit, like water, fibre and vitamins.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    MFP has the protein setting way way way way too low. I have mine at 120-150 grams.

    This is an incorrect and potentially dangerous statement.
    How so? Everything reputable I've read suggests that we need .75 to 1 gram of protein for each pound of lean body weight. MFP set me at like 30 grams or some such nonsense.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    See your protein goal as a target not a limit, like water, fibre and vitamins.
    Well put.
  • IronPlayground
    IronPlayground Posts: 1,594 Member
    This is an incorrect and potentially dangerous statement.

    Oh please explain. I'd love to hear your reasoning.
  • HeidiMightyRawr
    HeidiMightyRawr Posts: 3,343 Member
    Unless you have kidney issues, don't worry about it.

    Many people aim for around 1g per lb body weight. Having extra is not bad for you, it won't halt your weight loss (unless you go over calories) so it's really not something to worry about. I love to go over in protein and fibre - I see them as more of a target than a limit!
  • kristen6022
    kristen6022 Posts: 1,923 Member
    Go over on protein. MPF has the levels set LOW. I adjusted mine to between 100-140.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    MFP has the protein setting way way way way too low. I have mine at 120-150 grams.

    This is an incorrect and potentially dangerous statement.

    The only danger here is if there is a pre-existing kidney issue. If not, no harm. The standard recommedation for someone active is between 1 and 1.6 grams per kilogram of body weight if doing strength training and 2 grams if doing intensive cardio. Over that is somewhat of a waste but not really harmfull unless ridiculously higher for a prolonged period of time.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    This is an incorrect and potentially dangerous statement.

    Oh please explain. I'd love to hear your reasoning.

    The protein recommendations on MFP match those set by the Institute of Medicine, which sets population based recommendations based on current medical science. Eating above these recommendations may be safe for many people, but for many others it can cause medical problems, some severe. While some lifestyles may benefit from more protein, the average person doesn't "need" more protien. Before eating outside medical recommendations it would be wise to check with your doctor or a licensed dietician, rather than listening to a potentially dangerous blanket statement on a www forum.
  • IronPlayground
    IronPlayground Posts: 1,594 Member
    This is an incorrect and potentially dangerous statement.

    Oh please explain. I'd love to hear your reasoning.

    The protein recommendations on MFP match those set by the Institute of Medicine, which sets population based recommendations based on current medical science. Eating above these recommendations may be safe for many people, but for many others it can cause medical problems, some severe. While some lifestyles may benefit from more protein, the average person doesn't "need" more protien. Before eating outside medical recommendations it would be wise to check with your doctor or a licensed dietician, rather than listening to a potentially dangerous blanket statement on a www forum.

    Then this should have been your original statement instead of making your own "blanket statement" about someone being incorrect.

    Exercise intensity and fitness goals need to be considered when determining a person's protein intake. Protein for basic weight loss would be lower than for body recomposition.

    However, given most everyone's statement, OP should not consider protein as a limit and become stressed if they go over.
  • yo_andi
    yo_andi Posts: 2,178 Member
    This is an incorrect and potentially dangerous statement.

    Oh please explain. I'd love to hear your reasoning.

    The protein recommendations on MFP match those set by the Institute of Medicine, which sets population based recommendations based on current medical science. Eating above these recommendations may be safe for many people, but for many others it can cause medical problems, some severe. While some lifestyles may benefit from more protein, the average person doesn't "need" more protien. Before eating outside medical recommendations it would be wise to check with your doctor or a licensed dietician, rather than listening to a potentially dangerous blanket statement on a www forum.


    From what I could find, the most recent report on the IOM website is from 2002. That is hardly current. The recommendation there is 0.8 g per kg of bodyweight of protein for adults, but no adverse effects are listed should one exceed the recommendation (given normal health markers).

    If you are going to make claims, please back up your claims with citation-- it lends validity.

    Source:

    http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2002/Dietary-Reference-Intakes-for-Energy-Carbohydrate-Fiber-Fat-Fatty-Acids-Cholesterol-Protein-and-Amino-Acids.aspx
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    The IOM study does not address weight loss/fat loss as I recall, does it?
  • yo_andi
    yo_andi Posts: 2,178 Member
    The IOM study does not address weight loss/fat loss as I recall, does it?

    It does not. Per the abstract these are recommendations for "good health" and "nutritional needs".
  • IronPlayground
    IronPlayground Posts: 1,594 Member
    http://www.romanfitnesssystems.com/blog/the-truth-about-protien/

    I thought this was a good blog on protein intake.
  • yo_andi
    yo_andi Posts: 2,178 Member
    http://www.romanfitnesssystems.com/blog/the-truth-about-protien/

    I thought this was a good blog on protein intake.

    I've used this one in discussions with friends and other fitness/health enthusiasts as well. I like that he discusses both sides of the coin from multiple goal perspectives.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    This is an incorrect and potentially dangerous statement.

    Oh please explain. I'd love to hear your reasoning.

    The protein recommendations on MFP match those set by the Institute of Medicine, which sets population based recommendations based on current medical science. Eating above these recommendations may be safe for many people, but for many others it can cause medical problems, some severe. While some lifestyles may benefit from more protein, the average person doesn't "need" more protien. Before eating outside medical recommendations it would be wise to check with your doctor or a licensed dietician, rather than listening to a potentially dangerous blanket statement on a www forum.


    From what I could find, the most recent report on the IOM website is from 2002. That is hardly current. The recommendation there is 0.8 g per kg of bodyweight of protein for adults, but no adverse effects are listed should one exceed the recommendation (given normal health markers).

    If you are going to make claims, please back up your claims with citation-- it lends validity.

    Source:

    http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2002/Dietary-Reference-Intakes-for-Energy-Carbohydrate-Fiber-Fat-Fatty-Acids-Cholesterol-Protein-and-Amino-Acids.aspx

    2002 is recent enough if there has since been no scientific evidence to refute the recommendation. Medical organizations don't willy nilly change recommendations every year. They change when there is suffiecient medical evidence to warrant a change.
  • tomhancock
    tomhancock Posts: 100 Member
    MFP is not gender specific, and does not take into account the amount of lean muscle mass you have. If you are a dude you need a lot more protein than they recommend just to maintain your current muscle tone. If you want any chance of building muscle at all while dieting, you need a LOT more protein than they recommend.

    I imagine even women are finding the protein setting on MFP to be very low. Unless you have a serious liver or kidney problem, you can eat a little under a gram of protein a day for every pound of lean muscle on your body. If you are working out at all, you should be eating at least that much.
  • mcarter99
    mcarter99 Posts: 1,666 Member
    OP- The MFP values are (1) recommendations, not requirements, and (2) based on long term averages, not 24-hour periods. If you go over on protein today you will be fine (probably better). If you really want to get close to the recommended ratios here and you go over one day, just go a little under another day.

    People survived just fine before we had tools to count our macros. Probably 99.5% of people don't count or watch their levels at all. You won't shrivel up and die or cannibalize your muscle if you don't eat a certain level. Listen to your body. If you're craving a steak or spinach, eat that.
  • d4rkn3ss06
    d4rkn3ss06 Posts: 57
    This is an incorrect and potentially dangerous statement.

    Oh please explain. I'd love to hear your reasoning.

    The protein recommendations on MFP match those set by the Institute of Medicine, which sets population based recommendations based on current medical science. Eating above these recommendations may be safe for many people, but for many others it can cause medical problems, some severe. While some lifestyles may benefit from more protein, the average person doesn't "need" more protien. Before eating outside medical recommendations it would be wise to check with your doctor or a licensed dietician, rather than listening to a potentially dangerous blanket statement on a www forum.


    From what I could find, the most recent report on the IOM website is from 2002. That is hardly current. The recommendation there is 0.8 g per kg of bodyweight of protein for adults, but no adverse effects are listed should one exceed the recommendation (given normal health markers).

    If you are going to make claims, please back up your claims with citation-- it lends validity.

    Source:

    http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2002/Dietary-Reference-Intakes-for-Energy-Carbohydrate-Fiber-Fat-Fatty-Acids-Cholesterol-Protein-and-Amino-Acids.aspx

    2002 is recent enough if there has since been no scientific evidence to refute the recommendation. Medical organizations don't willy nilly change recommendations every year. They change when there is suffiecient medical evidence to warrant a change.

    I disagree with 2002 being recent enough! When ever ANYONE has to do research on a topic the sources must be with in the last 5 years to be considered recent anything older is seen as out of date. And unless you have kidney problems there is no reason to fear protein. MFP does set the protein levels too low and if you go over by some it really isn't a problem.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    This is an incorrect and potentially dangerous statement.

    Oh please explain. I'd love to hear your reasoning.

    The protein recommendations on MFP match those set by the Institute of Medicine, which sets population based recommendations based on current medical science. Eating above these recommendations may be safe for many people, but for many others it can cause medical problems, some severe. While some lifestyles may benefit from more protein, the average person doesn't "need" more protien. Before eating outside medical recommendations it would be wise to check with your doctor or a licensed dietician, rather than listening to a potentially dangerous blanket statement on a www forum.


    From what I could find, the most recent report on the IOM website is from 2002. That is hardly current. The recommendation there is 0.8 g per kg of bodyweight of protein for adults, but no adverse effects are listed should one exceed the recommendation (given normal health markers).

    If you are going to make claims, please back up your claims with citation-- it lends validity.

    Source:

    http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2002/Dietary-Reference-Intakes-for-Energy-Carbohydrate-Fiber-Fat-Fatty-Acids-Cholesterol-Protein-and-Amino-Acids.aspx

    2002 is recent enough if there has since been no scientific evidence to refute the recommendation. Medical organizations don't willy nilly change recommendations every year. They change when there is suffiecient medical evidence to warrant a change.

    I disagree with 2002 being recent enough! When ever ANYONE has to do research on a topic the sources must be with in the last 5 years to be considered recent anything older is seen as out of date. And unless you have kidney problems there is no reason to fear protein. MFP does set the protein levels too low and if you go over by some it really isn't a problem.

    That is ridiculous. Are you really suggesting that medical organizations should change nutrition recommendations based on nothing other than a date? So the conversation would be something like

    Dr. Y: "Dr. X, we need to change the protein recommendations."
    Dr. X: "Why?" Is there new prevailing medical evidence suggesting they are incorrect?"
    Dr. Y: "Well no, but those recommendations have been in place for 10 years."
    Dr. X: "OMG, how can that be? Let's change them immediately!"

    Thank God, science doesn't work that way.

    If you ammend you statement to say "If you have no known medical conditions, then going over the MFP recommendation it is unlikely to be a problem.", then it would be a correct statement.

    When is comes to nutrition and health, blanket statements are rarely true.
  • EvanKeel
    EvanKeel Posts: 1,903 Member

    If you ammend you statement to say "If you have no known medical conditions, then going over the MFP recommendation it is unlikely to be a problem.", then it would be a correct statement.

    When is comes to nutrition and health, blanket statements are rarely true.

    Personally, I don't have a problem approaching most of life's situations using the caveat "do [whatever] unless you have a reason not to." And it's not really anyone else's responsibility to find those reasons for not doing something other than my own. How much of the general population do you really think this is dangerous information for? Clearly no one here should treat what they see on a forum as medical advice, even if it's from a doctor--who I imagine would be in violation of some sort of law even if they gave medical advice over the inadequate medium of an online forum.

    Does this website not have some sort of disclaimer about consulting a physician before going on a diet? The objection, while technically correct seems like fault finding for no other purpose than being pejorative. It would be unhealthy to eat anything in excess with the amount that constitutes that excess varying by the substance and the individual.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member

    If you ammend you statement to say "If you have no known medical conditions, then going over the MFP recommendation it is unlikely to be a problem.", then it would be a correct statement.

    When is comes to nutrition and health, blanket statements are rarely true.

    Personally, I don't have a problem approaching most of life's situations using the caveat "do [whatever] unless you have a reason not to." And it's not really anyone else's responsibility to find those reasons for not doing something other than my own. How much of the general population do you really think this is dangerous information for? Clearly no one here should treat what they see on a forum as medical advice, even if it's from a doctor--who I imagine would be in violation of some sort of law even if they gave medical advice over the inadequate medium of an online forum.

    Does this website not have some sort of disclaimer about consulting a physician before going on a diet? The objection, while technically correct seems like fault finding for no other purpose than being pejorative. It would be unhealthy to eat anything in excess with the amount that constitutes that excess varying by the substance and the individual.

    No, I'm not being pejorative. I am simply trying to caution people away from dangerous blanket statements. Almost any post about protien on these forums is met with numerous posts saying that the MFP recommendation is too low. Not that it's too low if you are trying to gain muscle, or lifting weights, or have no medical ailments. Very rarely some mention pre-existing kidney ailments as a reason not to eat high protien, as if that is the only thing that could possibly cause problems. But it's more often just a blanket statement, that "it is too low". The natural inference woudl be "too low for everyone".

    Unfortunately when people read this type of thing often enough, they begin to believe it. Of course, they shouldn't take advice from the forums. But they do. And there are a LOT of MFP members with diabetes or insulin resistance or other disorders which could make eating too much protein dangerous. The likelihood is that the percent of the MFP population for which too much protein has the potential to cause harm may be larger than the percent of the overall population, since by nature of the site MFP probably has a larger percent of people with the very medical conditions for which it can be dangerous.
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