Calories burned exaggerations

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  • fatmom51
    fatmom51 Posts: 173 Member
    QUOTING MYSELF HERE BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T LET ME EDIT:
    <<It is interesting to note that when I went on the www.healthstatus.com and for kicks entered 12 hours of sleeping and 12 hours of sitting, it came up with an overall calorie burn of about 2,600 for the day. Sleeping burns about 10 calories a minute; sitting awake burns roughly 1.7 calories a minute, according to this website.>>

    It actually should have said that sleeping burns roughly 1 calorie a minute and sitting awake burns roughly 1.7 calories a minute.
    I just wanted to fix that so I didn't have people thinking I thought I could burn 600 calories an hour sleeping. (Sleeping worked out to 100 per hour, and sitting is about 116 calories an hour for my weight.)
  • katysmelly
    katysmelly Posts: 380 Member

    I see several members every once in a while post they burned 400 calories for 1 minute of breastfeeding. I don't know much about breastfeeding, but if their next post is that they gained 2lbs that week I would direct them here.

    You don't actually "burn" calories breast-feeding. But, breast milk is high in calories so if you're making milk, you're burning calories.
  • jmcdaniel0
    jmcdaniel0 Posts: 130 Member
    Hmm, the whole breast feeding thing has be confused. You don't burn calories while the actual feeding process is going on, but you do burn calories creating the milk? If that is correct, shouldn't that be part of you daily burn, and not be logged? its kinda like breathing or your heart beating, you cant just quit making milk... So I would think that would be built into you BMR? Or am I on the wrong track here?
  • mcarter99
    mcarter99 Posts: 1,666 Member
    I'm no expert but I think milk production actually is dependent on how much is extracted. (That might be the wrong verb.)
  • spinqueen72
    spinqueen72 Posts: 406 Member
    Some people are heavier...which means they actually DO burn more calories exercising than you do.
    For example: I KNOW I weigh more than you, and I use a HRM (Polar FT4). So if you and I did the SAME exercise routine...I GUARANTEE I will burn DOUBLE what you did.
    Not everyone exaggerates their exercise calories!
    There have been times when I went for an hour walk, and I actually DID burn over 400 calories! I power-walk, though!
    Anyways....don't knock down other people logging calories burned...I think it's awesome they a just getting off the couch, out of the house, and trying to become healthier!
    What YOU burn, isn't necessarily what other people are going to burn! Every BODY is different...including yours.
    Be here to motivate..not rant about other people's choices.
  • jmcdaniel0
    jmcdaniel0 Posts: 130 Member
    I'm no expert but I think milk production actually is dependent on how much is extracted. (That might be the wrong verb.)

    This I have no idea... I am still hung up on this one? Any moms out there? My wife bottle fed our daughter, so I have 0 experience...
  • mcarter99
    mcarter99 Posts: 1,666 Member
    I'm no expert but I think milk production actually is dependent on how much is extracted. (That might be the wrong verb.)

    This I have no idea... I am still hung up on this one? Any moms out there? My wife bottle fed our daughter, so I have 0 experience...

    I'm pretty sure that's how it works. Think about it. Your wife's milk stopped producing because it wasn't going anywhere. If someone has twins, the demand is double so the body steps it up. There used to be 'wet nurses', which were nannies that kept producing to nurse other women's babies. What triggers production is the repeated process of fill/empty.
  • katysmelly
    katysmelly Posts: 380 Member
    I'm no expert but I think milk production actually is dependent on how much is extracted. (That might be the wrong verb.)

    I think so, too. Well, extracted or leaked.

    The only way to be sure what's been extracted is to weigh it. One of the nerve-wracking things about nursing is you don't know how much milk your baby is getting. So, what you have to do is weigh the baby before and after feeding.

    I suppose someone could do that with every feed and then look up calories in human milk and subtract the calories. LOL
  • AaronG91
    AaronG91 Posts: 20
    Although heart rate monitors are usually quite accurate, the only true way to calculate calories burnt is to measure the amount of oxygen you use, from what I recall it equates to roughly 5 calories per litre of oxygen.

    Having said that, whilst maintaining I was able to use MFP to log exercise and food leading to a NET of roughly 0 and stay the same weight.

    BUT, you do need to be sensible, all of the equations out there have to be generalised so that they can be applied to everybody, at the end of the day you are only fooling yourself so if you think the amount is too high or too low, change it.

    (i.e. I know I burn more than 260 calories for an hour of weight training, which is the equivalent of roughly a 12 minute quick run for me, at the same time I don't burn 500 calories for an hour of ping pong with friends, as the skill level isn't there to make it intense enough... I imagine the values should probably be reversed).
  • xSCiNTILLATEx79
    xSCiNTILLATEx79 Posts: 245 Member
    I do Zumba a couple times a week and am always skeptical even based on my weight. I did an hour on Saturday whcih according to 2 different sources based on my weight and age should be 743. I rounded that down to 600 which according to this was where I should be at almost under 200lbs. I was drenched, but it still seemed like alot, however it seems to be true, from everything Ive read, but to each there own. I love my Zumba.

    HOW MANY CALORIES DO YOU BURN DOING ZUMBA IF YOU WEIGH 150 POUNDS
    The average 150 pound person doing Zumba at a high intensity level should burn between 500 and 600 calories per hour.

    HOW MANY CALORIES DO YOU BURN DOING ZUMBA IF YOU WEIGH 200 POUNDS
    The average 200 pound person doing Zumba at a high intensity level should burn 650 to 700 calories per hour.

    HOW MANY CALORIES DO YOU BURN DOING ZUMBA IF YOU WEIGH 250 POUNDS
    The average 250 pound person doing Zumba at a high intensity level should burn 800 to 850 calories per hour.

    HOW MANY CALORIES DO YOU BURN DOING ZUMBA IF YOU WEIGH 300 POUNDS
    Ok here it is. If you weigh 300 pounds or over and you are able to perform a full hour of Zumba at a high intensity level then YES you can burn 1000 calories an hour. Let us remember that if you weigh over 300 pounds there's a good chance that by the time you are in good enough shape to do a full hour of Zumba you will be in another weight bracket.

    The exact number of calories that you burn doing Zumba, or any exercise for that matter, depends entirely on you and your personal stats. Most of us fall in between one of the categories I mentioned, and these numbers should be used to give you a general idea of where you stand.
  • gunmetalsunrise
    gunmetalsunrise Posts: 131
    HRMs are a different story, I agree...its the people that say they burned 600 calories walking for 30 minutes and Im like...WHAAAATTT?!! Lol

    I have never gotten 600 calories burned while doing 30 mins of walking. Ever. The most I've ever gotten was 250 and that was while doing walking + some running. Lol.

    I just use the estimates because purchasing a HRM is out of my budget. Maybe in the future I can get one, but I've been losing weight pretty consistently w/ just estimates. *shrugs*
  • Fatboy960
    Fatboy960 Posts: 7
    HRMs are a different story, I agree...its the people that say they burned 600 calories walking for 30 minutes and Im like...WHAAAATTT?!! Lol
    I've never seen anything quite that extreme, but yes, the "estimates" aren't very reliable.

    Check out the calories burned for "Golf, pulling clubs" - it's ridiculous - but I use it anyway.
  • Bobby_Clerici
    Bobby_Clerici Posts: 1,828 Member
    I had to completely tweak the calorie burn rates for everything in the MFP data base.
    It just overestimated everything.
    I burn around 450 calories per hour where it said 600.
    I burn 600 where it said 800 and so on...
    Folks, these are educated guesses. Each person is different. You must find your own zone and stick with what works.
  • twistygirl
    twistygirl Posts: 517 Member
    That's why I do mine on Spark People it's more accurate to me.:glasses:
  • AJ_Pete
    AJ_Pete Posts: 863 Member
    Dear god, leave the OP alone. She's giving her opinion of people in her height/weight category. No need to attack anyone. I'm heavier and I sure as hell didn't take it as her attacking or trying to misguide anyone. Go do some cardio are work off your bad attitudes.
  • JMeka
    JMeka Posts: 26
    Agree with this as today MFP said i burned 1218 cal for 60 mins of Turbojam. According to my HRM i burned 880kcal, that is a 300+ difference. If i were to eat back all my work out calories well..i would certainly be over.
  • Globug62
    Globug62 Posts: 1
    MFP, has generally calculated anywhere from 10-30 calories difference than what I see on the exercise machine. I go by exactly what the machine says, as I put my weight and age in every time. I also have a website that I use to verify the numbers and they are usually pretty accurate to the machine. Sometimes, I eat the calories back and sometimes I don't. It just depends on whether i'm hungry or not.
  • obeserat
    obeserat Posts: 218 Member
    HRMs are a different story, I agree...its the people that say they burned 600 calories walking for 30 minutes and Im like...WHAAAATTT?!! Lol

    A few months back when I weighed 325lb my hrm said I was burning 850 calories for 1 hour cycling , MFP's estimate was fairly close to that , now I am 33lb lighter and quite a lot fitter I burn just over 500 on the same journey mfp is a bit out. I regularly check the HRM reading on this website http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/heart-rate-based-calorie-burn-calculator.aspx
  • penrbrown
    penrbrown Posts: 2,685 Member
    :D MFP estimates WAY low for me. My HRM says I burned 300 calories on my 20 minute run. MFP? It says I burned 150!
  • obeserat
    obeserat Posts: 218 Member
    Could someone recommend a HRM that takes BMR into account? Or is there an easy way to do it without having to buy a new HRM?

    I'm thinking of this equation:

    My BMR (according to Klatch-Macardle formula) is 1300. That's 54 calories per hour. So if my HRM says I burned 600 calories in an hour, I actually burned 546? Do I have that right?

    I don't eat my calories back, by the way. That never works for me. I have consistent losses when I don't eat them back.

    This website is quite good , I use it to check the reading on my HRM and calculate my net burn http://www.shapesense.com/fitness-exercise/calculators/heart-rate-based-calorie-burn-calculator.aspx
  • kelsafish
    kelsafish Posts: 39
    You go with your method. Leave other people to theirs. If it's working for them, why does it matter to you? And if it stops working for them, they'll likely change what they're doing, and again, it shouldn't matter to you.

    Agreed.
  • jaxandmaksmom
    jaxandmaksmom Posts: 262 Member
    AND THIS IS WHY I DONT EAT BACK MY EXERCISE CALORIES.. CAUSE NO ONE KNOWS...
  • thefreebiemom
    thefreebiemom Posts: 191 Member
    HRMs are a different story, I agree...its the people that say they burned 600 calories walking for 30 minutes and Im like...WHAAAATTT?!! Lol

    Why do you believe that's impossible? I keep my pace up and not only sweat like a crazy man during my walks, I'm still pouring for 20 mins when I get back to my desk.

    But why not use whatever numbers you want, and if you're reaching your weight loss goals, keep using it? I'm also noticing a trend where men seem to believe they've burned more calories than MFP states, and women swear they've burned less. I'm definitely in the "MFP is too low" camp.

    As a side note, I'm not sure why so many people are willing to take the number from a HRM as gospel. When it comes to calories burned, they've been shown to vary widely in accuracy. They aren't giving you a real number, after all. They are using an algorithm, the same as the elliptical or treadmill, and the same as MFP. Different algorithms, but all are still a best guess based on what an average person would burn.

    At the risk of being ridiculed for asking an ignorant question, does anyone know if there's a HR monitor out there that asks for not only your height, weight, and age, but also your BF% and VO2 Max? It seems to me that these would be directly related to how many calories you burn in your workouts, as well.

    There is a thread that someone created where they used VO2 and BF% to figure out an "adjusted" age so that HRM give you a more accurate calorie burn. It has the process and links to the calculators needed to figure it out. http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/548645-setup-polar-hrm-for-more-accurate-calorie-burn-for-known-bmr

    Basically in the end you change the age on your HRM to what the calculator says and it is a little more accurate. I am 29 and it calculated 31 as the age I should put in. I haven't changed mine yet to see how it effects it though. But yes I think Polar lets you use your VO2 max figure but you would have to have some kind of test done to know your VO2 Max.
  • thefreebiemom
    thefreebiemom Posts: 191 Member

    Highly unlikely, in my opinion. 10 calories/minute is what most people MAX at. That's fit people, so obese people will burn more. But double? 20 calories/minute? I'd say maybe 15, and that's being generous.

    It doesn't hurt us the readers, it hurts the dieter. The MFP plan of 'adding back' exercise doesn't leave you much room for deficit, especially if you're smallish and use BMR as your floor instead of 1200. Then you get people who don't understand why they have to do so much math and why they're not losing. And it sucks for them.

    Just FYI, I have a HRM. I don't consider myself to be particularly fit. I still burn around 10 cal/min doing Turbo Jam, and roughly 5 cal/min hiking. "shrugs" My husband, who is far larger than me and far less fit, burns about double what I do simply because he's about double my size.

    That's funny. I'm about 50lbs more then my hubby and during hiking or 30DS he still burns more then me. He SUCKS!!! When I started C25K he decided out of the blue he was just going to run and see how far he got in a certain amount of time. 32min for 5k. Really??? No fair he hasn't run ever.
  • bikinibeliever
    bikinibeliever Posts: 832 Member
    MFP is off for me too, but in the other direction, it under estimates. But that's ok, I have my bodymedia. :happy:
  • FlittyGetsFit
    FlittyGetsFit Posts: 94
    I use the heart rate sensors on the machines to get my heart rate. I find the machines overestimate their calories count, MFP overestimates my burn on the elliptical and bike, but underestimates the treadmill. Probably as I have it on an incline. So I make a not of my heart rate according to the sensors, and work it out when I get home, entering that value for calories burned. Then, I only eat back around half of my exercise calories, just to be safe! It seems to be working :)
  • Airbear3
    Airbear3 Posts: 335 Member
    I've seen people say they burned 1,000 calories for an hour of Zumba. That's impossible. Plus, an hour long zumba class includes warm up and warm downs. You need to RUN 10/mph for an hour to burn that.
    sorry i believe you would be wrong here! i do run a 9 min mile and on rare occasions do zumba and is as much cardio as runnning! zumba is a great cardio workout
  • tenunderfour
    tenunderfour Posts: 429 Member
    I think if you don't have an HRM, it's ok to go with the estimate for a while and see if it works. If it doesn't work, adjust.

    I haven't read all 400+ posts in this thread, but I'm just going to go on the record and point out that a HRM is STILL an estimation!! There is NO way to know exactly how many calories you burn during a given activity. You can only estimate.... and the OP is right in underestimating whenever possible. I also happen to agree with NOT eating back the exercise calories.
  • LadyOfOceanBreeze
    LadyOfOceanBreeze Posts: 762 Member
    okay OKAY!!!! I am officially going to stop
    eating back my exercise like today:laugh: :wink: :laugh:

    Best!
  • kwin91
    kwin91 Posts: 128
    Yeah I don't just straight use the one on MFP I use this site instead

    http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/cbc

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