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  • roachhaley
    roachhaley Posts: 978 Member
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    if you wear a fit bit you should know exactly how many calories you burn during the day. no need to use an equation. just make sure you are eating 500-1000 less then that and you should loose 1-2 lbs a week. that is what I do and it works like clockwork.
    My armband says around 3k a day so that's why I was believing mfp when it told me 2990 which I rounded down to 2800.
    But because of peoples responses Im going to stop relying on it.

    assuming those numbers are right (and they seem a little off to me), that would only be a 200 cal deficit a day, leading to less than a half pound weight loss a week. so, even if you TDEE really is around 3000, you should still be okay cutting back a further 200-250 cals a day leading to a 1lb/wk weight loss
  • andrea198721
    andrea198721 Posts: 173 Member
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    Get a new doctor. He sounds like an old quack! I got off depo and I feel so much better for it. It may not have caused weight gain but it definately changed my moods and completely stopped TOM as well as numerous migraines every month. Since getting off depo I haven't had a migraine an TOM is regular. My moods have also evened out.
  • Sepheara
    Sepheara Posts: 208 Member
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    I have the Body Media and generally burn an average of 3000 calories per day including exercise. I eat around 2000 calories per day and am losing 1.5- 2 pounds consistantly every week. What does the Body Media give you for an average daily burn? Being that you still have a lot of weight to lose, you can safely cut 1000 calories from that amount daily and lose weight. I do agree that it seems that you are not comfortable with your doctor so it might be a good idea to search for a new one. Good luck to you.
    Yay another bodymedia user lol
    Mine gives me around 3000 calorie burn so when mfp agreed I was pretty convinced.
    This is why I went to my doctor. I was honestly confused.
    And unlike some people saying I.just want to be told what I want to hear nothing could be farther from the truth
    I am on a mission for facts and advice from all perspectives
  • Kmwienke
    Kmwienke Posts: 8
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    Regardless of whether the doctor in question is right or wrong (something I'm not going to debate since I'm not even going to pretend to be a doctor myself), if you're feeling like you need a second opinion it may be time for a new doctor anyway. There's little point to seeing a doctor you don't trust and don't like.

    But when you do find one you like and trust, you need to follow their advice! Nothing irritates a doctor or other medical provider more than a patient that keeps coming back for the same problem but hasn't followed any of the given instructions. (I work in a general practitioner's office. I hear about it ALL the time. Haha.)

    Best of luck to you, though! I hope things get straightened out! =)
  • PHATmommy68
    PHATmommy68 Posts: 112
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    If you are under the care of a physician, do what he says - period!
    And if you need another opinion, seek out another Dr - don't troll MFP for somebody to agree with you.
    Sounds like you just want to eat more.
    Join the club.
    Either take your doctor's advice, or fire him and seek medical services elsewhere.
    Good Luck:flowerforyou:



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  • jillica
    jillica Posts: 554 Member
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    I'm only going to comment on one thing in your post:
    I wanted off the depo provera shot but he argued with me claiming the symptoms were not hormonal.

    Get a new doctor. That shot is the devil and having trouble with weight is one of the most common side effects of that shot. I could go into more details about the rest of the side effects (including early menopause) but since weight is your main concern right now, that's enough of a reason to get off of it. And don't get Mirena because it has the same hormone and while it's less common for Mirena to affect weight, it can and does in some people.

    AGREED! When he says "just move", you should MOVE to another Doctor.
  • wolfi622
    wolfi622 Posts: 206
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    If you are under the care of a physician, do what he says - period!
    And if you need another opinion, seek out another Dr - don't troll MFP for somebody to agree with you.

    Agree. I would bet that if there were a recording or transcript of most doctor/patient conversations alluded to on these boards you'd be amazed at how different the actual visit really was from what is being reported. It's like going to your friend and saying -" let me tell you what a jerk my boyfriend is. Don't you think he's being a jerk. Yeah, I thought so too."
  • bikinibeliever
    bikinibeliever Posts: 832 Member
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    I wear the bodymedia too, and have found it to be incredibly accurate. If you are using that, what does it say your calorie burn for the day is? I go anywhere from 2500 on a lazy day to 3300 on a very active day, usually fall at right about 3000. And my BMR is over 1800 and I weigh less than you, thinking yours should be too considering the activity level you mentioned. But 2800 for a BMR I think is high, Maybe that is you TDEE? I could not survive on 1500 calories on an active day! On a lazy day, yes.

    Keep in mind that your calorie burn from bodymedia is not your BMR.
  • KaidaKantri
    KaidaKantri Posts: 401
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    I think you should get a second opinion, as it sounds like he's guessing and doesn't really know what he's talking about. As you stated, you have thyroid problems, and I know someone who has that and it is really tough for them to lose any weight because of the thyroid problem. Have you seen a thyroid specialist? They might have more information on what you can do to lose the weight if that's causing you to not lose weight. I've had issues with most of the doctor's I see, and I believe you should be very picky with what doctor you choose.
  • blazeybug87
    blazeybug87 Posts: 226 Member
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    If you are under the care of a physician, do what he says - period!
    And if you need another opinion, seek out another Dr - don't troll MFP for somebody to agree with you.
    Sounds like you just want to eat more.
    Join the club.
    Either take your doctor's advice, or fire him and seek medical services elsewhere.
    Good Luck:flowerforyou:

    You sir must be related to the doctor as you sound like a jerk too!

    He is a jerk for expressing his opinion??!?
  • LeeshaNichole
    LeeshaNichole Posts: 179 Member
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    I would see about getting a referral to a nutritionist. They can help you way more then a primary care can. Good luck!
  • Dayna154
    Dayna154 Posts: 910 Member
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    The thyroid imbalance itself is hormonal. This is something that needs to be in balance even if its with meds.
    I have health issues as well with hypothyroidism is one of them. It makes it WAY harder to lose weight. You, me, have to work harder than the average person to lose the same weight.
    Most doctors know what they are doing, they have years of study. This would be something a general doc would know.
    At your size, your body needs a deficit to burn off the fat. You will need to move.
    I think in your doctor telling you to not do what you are doing now he is thinking long term. You could do serious damage to joints (knees, hips, ankles) and not be aware of it at all until you are much older and it’s too late.
    So just be open enough to try what he suggested. If you don’t see changes at all, no inches lost, no weight lost then go back. You can always get a second opinion while you are following his suggestions.
    I’m 5'9" and started out 235#.. I was given a 1200 cal diet and low carb. I hated it at first but its worked. I had extreme adrenal fatigue, hypothyroidism, PCOS, I was insulin resistant, had high blood pressure, amount other things..
    Its 8 months later, I’ve lost considerable inches, a good amount of weight, and have more energy than I did at your age and Im 46...
    I'm off high blood pressure meds, have been for months, I am working on the rest of it. Nothing comes easy..
    There aren’t docs here… Just others who are wanting the same things.. Health and fitness and smaller sized clothes
  • ccckwalk
    ccckwalk Posts: 262
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    I don't exactly agree with the way Bobbi said (because I am a girl and know this is emotional for you) it but I agree with what he said! :) Go see a different doctor, especially if you don't feel like your best interests are being served. Good luck girl! Never let anyone make you feel like you are not working you rear off!! Chin up and seek better advice! ~Corina


    If you are under the care of a physician, do what he says - period!
    And if you need another opinion, seek out another Dr - don't troll MFP for somebody to agree with you.
    Sounds like you just want to eat more.
    Join the club.
    Either take your doctor's advice, or fire him and seek medical services elsewhere.
    Good Luck:flowerforyou:
  • Sepheara
    Sepheara Posts: 208 Member
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    I wear the bodymedia too, and have found it to be incredibly accurate. If you are using that, what does it say your calorie burn for the day is? I go anywhere from 2500 on a lazy day to 3300 on a very active day, usually fall at right about 3000. And my BMR is over 1800 and I weigh less than you, thinking yours should be too considering the activity level you mentioned. But 2800 for a BMR I think is high, Maybe that is you TDEE? I could not survive on 1500 calories on an active day! On a lazy day, yes.

    Keep in mind that your calorie burn from bodymedia is not your BMR.
    I average 3k on it on a normal day.
  • Bilbobradshaw
    Bilbobradshaw Posts: 79 Member
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    If you are under the care of a physician, do what he says - period!
    And if you need another opinion, seek out another Dr - don't troll MFP for somebody to agree with you.
    Sounds like you just want to eat more.
    Join the club.
    Either take your doctor's advice, or fire him and seek medical services elsewhere.
    Good Luck:flowerforyou:

    ^^^^THAT! Doctors are jerks for this very reason. We would rather listen to people who tell us what we want to hear.
    Right, and we wonder why doctors don't tell people the frank truth any longer. We're such a nation of namby-pamby's.
    Boo Hoo, your bedside manor was harsh....
    Here is what my doctor said...
    "Bobby, you're FAT! F.A.T -- FAT stands for FATAL, AWFUL, TERRIBLE! And you are FAT! If you can lose 50 lbs, you won't need any of these medications or that CPap".
    Gulp
    Instead of firing my doctor, I heeded his advice, and I take no medication and ditched the CPap.

    nation of namby-pamby's... that was just the cutest thing.
  • rockerbabyy
    rockerbabyy Posts: 2,258 Member
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    I wear the bodymedia too, and have found it to be incredibly accurate. If you are using that, what does it say your calorie burn for the day is? I go anywhere from 2500 on a lazy day to 3300 on a very active day, usually fall at right about 3000. And my BMR is over 1800 and I weigh less than you, thinking yours should be too considering the activity level you mentioned. But 2800 for a BMR I think is high, Maybe that is you TDEE? I could not survive on 1500 calories on an active day! On a lazy day, yes.

    Keep in mind that your calorie burn from bodymedia is not your BMR.
    I average 3k on it on a normal day.
    i would say you could safely eat 2000 a day to lose two pounds a week. if you dont want to lose that quickly, eat 2500 to lose 1 pound week.
  • Sepheara
    Sepheara Posts: 208 Member
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    Thanks all
    I'm going to try to stick with the 1500 for a.month
    And if I don't feel any better ill see another doctor.
    I really didn't want to see a doc and cause drama i really just wanted
    Some clarity.

    I'll Definitly look into the sleep apnea. :flowerforyou:

    Sorry for all the slow responses to questions on pages
    3 and 4 I wad typing on my phone.
  • BSchoberg
    BSchoberg Posts: 712 Member
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    I would fire his *kitten* and get a new doctor!!!

    ^^^ THIS! You should have a doctor who is a partner - willing to listen to your concerns and address them WITH you. You should not be dismissed like that!
  • mcarter99
    mcarter99 Posts: 1,666 Member
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    Thanks all
    I'm going to try to stick with the 1500 for a.month
    And if I don't feel any better ill see another doctor.
    I really didn't want to see a doc and cause drama i really just wanted
    Some clarity.

    I'll Definitly look into the sleep apnea. :flowerforyou:

    Sorry for all the slow responses to questions on pages
    3 and 4 I wad typing on my phone.

    I think that's a good idea. That 3000 you see on your BodyMedia isn't a BMR estimate. It's estimating your TOTAL calorie expenditure for the day. You don't need to worry about going below your BMR or 'eating back'. 1500 might be tough but even at 2000 you should lose 2 lbs./week if you're really good at tracking and even if you don't move much.

    Good luck to you! :flowerforyou:
  • MonicaT1972
    MonicaT1972 Posts: 512
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    One other thing with the sleep -- have you had a sleep study done? At your weight, sleep apnea is a very common disorder that could cause the problems you've described.

    Bottom line, I agree with everyone who said to get a second opinion. And when you do, mention the things that have been mentioned here.

    Sorry, I havn't, but I do know that I average between 6-7 hours of broken sleep a night. On my days of I get closer to 8 or 9 but it's also broken.

    Get one done. You have all the classic symptoms of an apnea sufferer. You will never lose weight without treating the condition. Do some research on it and get yourself tested. You have described every symptom and side effect of it.

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