My FITNESS pal.

People have a wealth of knowledge on this site, and if they choose not to use it, or absorb some of it, that's their choice. If they wanted to be healtier, they have the opportunity to learn more. If they don't, it's none of my business and doesn't derail me or bother me in the slightest.

Do what works for you, let other people do what works for them. It's all good.

It is if their motivation is to lose weight to look good. That's fine, go ahead. If you're also sticking to healthy choices, that's cool too.

But seriously, does it not irk people when people are eating only 600 calories a day and even risking their health just to lose weight.

First world problems...

You've obviously lived a very sheltered life or something. Live in NYC or something where you'll see homeless folks wearing nothing but underwear made out of newspaper and then realizing that you don't even care about that. Its a very humbling experience to realize that really, what others do that doesn't affect you directly isn't something worth losing sleep over

It's also not My Critical Pal, My Bi**h Session Pal, My Rant Pal, My boyfriend isn't helping me Pal, My exercise calories Pal, or My I want advice but not if it disagrees with my preconcieved notions Pal. But people do what they want.

Perfect point!

I have to agree on some level..... but I've seen some people who are actually on here to gain weight as well...or who don't need to lose at all, but are working on fitness goals.

It shouldn't matter where you started....only that most people are here for self-improvement reasons of SOME kind. Whatever that might be...we should try to support them.

o god yes starving yourself is not a good idea at all i dont tink the drink type diets work either cost u a fortune the weight u lose u will soon put back on when u start eating food again ive seen it happen loads of times ppl at work , on girl lost 6 stone on the drink type diet with bars and soups she has put it all back on again , its a vicious circle for most of us ...:bigsmile:

It's also not My Critical Pal, My Bi**h Session Pal, My Rant Pal, My boyfriend isn't helping me Pal, My exercise calories Pal, or My I want advice but not if it disagrees with my preconcieved notions Pal. But people do what they want.

LOL love this^^^

Some people just need to focus on one thing at a time, and their biggest priority might be losing weight first, especially if they are obese. Just dropping excess weight can and often does put many people in a better state of health.

But think about it this way. It's extremely easy to lose weight and not be healthy.
It's near impossible to keep yourself healthy and be overweight/obese.

Then it just comes down to personal choices. If it's important to them, people will focus on improving overall health - if it's not, they won't. Should they? Probably. But I think whatever makes them happiest is what they should do. And honestly, I see a lot of people on here and in my own life who lose weight and then decide they want their focus to move onto overall health. One good thing can lead to another, in most cases. It's all about mindsets and personal choices.

Should I also make a point to say that I never told anyone how they should use this site or what they should be doing.

I just gave my opinion on how I THINK it should be used, I don't see how i'm at fault for stating an opinion.

stressed yet?

I love this site because it gives you choices. you can either lose, gain or maintain weight. it offers you the healthy way to do it. it tells you what you should be eating calories wise. it tells you the nutriance value of things which you would otherwise ignore. you can keep track of what you are burning when you exercise. the people encourage each other so even if you put on a pound instead of losing a pound, you dont feel as bad as you would doing it alone. it also makes you think about what you are eating coz you have to put it in the food diary.
You're talking about people only eating 600 cals to lose weight, do you not think they would do that anyway? I have yo yo dieted, I have done drastic measures to lose weight when i was a teenager. and this site works for me.
People pay a lot of money to sit in a room weekly with loads of people feeling uncomfortable or in an online club to do this. Everyone is different. They need to find what works for them. With todays money worries, why not let like minded people enjoy meeting up and helping each other for free?
I know of at least one engagement and thousands of friendships that for on here.

Should I also make a point to say that I never told anyone how they should use this site or what they should be doing.

I just gave my opinion on how I THINK it should be used, I don't see how i'm at fault for stating an opinion.

You put this out there, you should have prepared for the sh**storm of opinions. You'll learn.:laugh:

Some people just need to focus on one thing at a time, and their biggest priority might be losing weight first, especially if they are obese. Just dropping excess weight can and often does put many people in a better state of health.

But think about it this way. It's extremely easy to lose weight and not be healthy.
It's near impossible to keep yourself healthy and be overweight/obese.

I know plenty of fat people who use this as an excuse to stay fat.
Track progress some way.
You would not become wealthy just being good with money.
It takes a solid plan, sound action, assessing gains and adapting to changes.
Same with achieving optimal health.

I agree completely. It's very difficult to keep weight off if losing it was your only plan to begin with. Good health and losing weight really should go hand in hand, in my opinion.

If mere weight loss is all a person is focused on, it's calories in, calories out.
Optimal health is a whole new program.
I track weight, body fat, blood pressure, resting heart rate and quarterly blood work results from my doctor.
Further, I get a physical every year.
Health is a choice.

I was not so overweight that I had diabetes, or something like that.

So my focus is losing weight. With that, came lifestyle changes, but not everyone wants to go to the gym, or 'be active', and that's fine. I feel healthier, and probably am.