Restaurants - Are You Kidding Me?!?!

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  • NovemberJune
    NovemberJune Posts: 2,525 Member
    CAJUN CHICKEN
    SPINACH SALAD
    Charbroiled chicken breast seasoned
    with our own Cajun spices, on a bed of spinach
    and mozzarella cheese, garnished with
    chopped egg, bacon, tomatoes, olives
    and mushrooms. $8.49 grumble

    BACON CHEESEBURGER (Burgers include fries, or a comparable side dish, and all the trimmings on the burger)
    American cheese topped with strips of
    Applewood bacon. $7.99 explode

    Wait, wait, wait - It gets better.

    You know how typically seafood is more expensive -

    GRILLED SALMON DINNER
    Wild caught Alaskan grilled salmon. Consider basting
    with one of our signature sauces as an alternative.
    $8.99 mad


    The ingredients simply cost more. Fries especially are relatively cheap for restaurants. Anything that doesn't keep as long (as in stuff that can't just be stored in the freezer for a few weeks) is going to cost more. These price differences seem small to me actually....
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    That Salad probably has as many calories as the burger. Cheese, eggs, bacon, and proably drenched with dressing nothing healthy about it.

    There is nothing unhealthy about cheese, eggs, or bacon. As far as the dressing goes, get it on the side or bring your own home made dressing (which is what I sometimes do).

    The croutons, tortilla strips and candied nuts are what makes those salads unhealthy.
  • PaperThinLips
    PaperThinLips Posts: 79 Member
    Well I can't tell how real the burgers are at McDonalds, but I am pretty sure they are just fake crap, so they are going to be cheaper. They can last a hell of a lot longer than a salad does.

    You wouldn't buy a shopping trolley full of veggies, make a ton of salads, and sell them for the same price as a hamburger. You are most likely not going to be able to sell all of the salads before the expiry date arrives which then you would have to throw away and buy a whole lot more.

    Well you can tell that the Burgers aren't real or just packed full of cheap crap if you saw Super Size Me lol.

    they are made of crap.
    my bf used to work back there and they take like a few seconds to make on the pressure grill..
    and i used to be a crew trainer there.. . it was awful.. so many people would order huge amounts of food but think it's okay if they diet a diet coke
  • fatmom51
    fatmom51 Posts: 173 Member
    Although I think salmon is more expensive than chicken, at most of these places, the chicken added to the salad is a full piece -- 6-8 ounces, at least where I've gotten a chicken spinach salad. And even at the grocery store, bagged spinach from the produce aisle is somewhat pricier than plain old iceberg. If I'm remembering correctly, I think I read somewhere that restaurants charge 3x what it would cost to make at home to account for the labor, facilities, utilities, etc.
    What's probably the most surprising is that the salmon isn't MORE expensive. The other prices seem to be what I'd expect to pay. (While it doesn't seem fair, salads likely are more expensive because of their short shelf life.)
  • sevsmom
    sevsmom Posts: 1,172 Member
    If you plan on spending $8-10 for your dinner. . .what does it really matter? If it's healthy and tastes good, why worry about it costing as much or even a smidge more than a burger? Aren't you worth the expense?? I don't like to pay a lot for stuff like that, so I usually make my own at home, but if I'm out and want salad, I'll order it. You know you won't feel all gross like you do after a greasy burger and fries!
  • NovemberJune
    NovemberJune Posts: 2,525 Member
    i can't count the number of times i've seen someone choose the salad at the restaurant, and it's so massive and covered with toppings and dressing that they could have eaten a couple big macs instead and been better off. same thing at subway. "yeah, i'll have the footlong bacon with extra bacon and salami, extra southwest sauce."

    Did you ever consider that that is just what they wanted to eat? I greatly prefer a yummy fatty calorific salad to a couple of big macs. wouldn't anyone? lol!
    Anyway my friend's brother was telling me (long ago) how stupid it is to get a veggie and then get mayonnaise. Uh, how is that stupid? I like mayo, I don't like the meat?
  • At Zaxby's for a side salad (lettuce, tomato, and cucumber) it's $2.99 but a side order of french fries is $1.29. Hmmm. You tell me which side item most people will choose?


    Yes, but you can order fries in larger quantities. You can store the fries (if frozen) for a very long time compared to fresh lettuce and such. Also, tomatoes are one of the more pricey items at a restaurant.

    Right, but you should have to factor the cost of oil in the equation when considering fried foods. Also, if the side salad was the only salad type item they offered I could see the price difference. Knowing that they keep these items on hand for other dishes on the menu and the fact that it is probably less than a cup of veggies total in the side salad, makes it seem like price gouging.
  • devil_in_a_blue_dress
    devil_in_a_blue_dress Posts: 5,214 Member
    Depending on where you live -- produce is probably only "cheap" half the year. In the winter months, if they are using decent produce all year, it's not being grown locally. Restaurants set prices based on making money over the year, so some of that is set to compensate for times of the year when they probably aren't making much on produce in the salads, after you factor in labor.

    This is why it is really important to look for restaurants with seasonal menus -- you're going to get the food that tastes the best and at better prices.

    And honestly, I like a lot of salads that are being produced by Wendy's and McDonald's. The sodium is higher than I'd like, the Grilled Chicken, Bacon, Ranch Salad (minus the dressing, which I don't care for) at McD's is 230 calories. A single cheese burger is 300.
  • navinator24
    navinator24 Posts: 4 Member
    Wait a second, where are these restaurants where you can get a salmon dinner for under ten dollars?!? That would be at least $18 here, and the salad would be 9 or 10 before adding chicken (that would cost you 3 or 4 dollars more.) I need to move to the middle of nowhere. :grumble:

    I was literally thinking the same thing. I don't live near any large cities like that and it's a blue collar community and it's nothing for a salmon dinner to be $15-$20. Salads, just plain with two or three slices of tomatos, two cucumber slices, and a couple of croutons is easily $7 or $8. Add chicken, shrimp, steak, or ahi tuna and charge $.50 - $3.00 more.

    This is why I make dinner at home! haha...A LOT cheaper to buy farm raised fish from a farmer's market with spinach!!
  • meggonkgonk
    meggonkgonk Posts: 2,066 Member
    Um, sandwich ingredients are cheaper and more easily bought in bulk. You can't store salad greens very long, but you can store bread like forever.
  • chrisb75
    chrisb75 Posts: 395 Member
    I always get the Steak Wrap at Winking Lizard, its 350 calories and has 18g of protein,
  • Here2GetFit
    Here2GetFit Posts: 292
    If I am going to spend money dining out, I am not going to waste it on a salad regardless of the price. I prefer to do my grazing in the privacy of my own home.

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  • neverstray
    neverstray Posts: 3,845 Member
    You aren't paying for food. It's simple. You are paying for service, which includes all the overhead of running a business (utilities, taxes, wages, equipment, stolen utensils and coffee cups, etc.). They vary the price a little so it doesn't t look like that's what they are doing. But, if I ever saw a restaurant that just flat rated everyone despite what they order, I would give the, a medal for honesty and I would eat there every day.

    There is a minimum they have where under some amount, it's not worth it to have you there. There are also really high margin dishes, probably salads, and really low ones depending on what is in season and what isn't. But, if a place is smart, they know their minimum per seat else they lose money on that one. If someone walks in and orders a $2 salad, has water for free, it's not even worth their time to serve you. That's the real deal.
  • mndamon
    mndamon Posts: 549 Member
    Beef, Poultry, Dairy, Corn (used to make sweeteners), and various other things have lots of federal subsidies to offset costs and keep consumer prices low.


    Healthy vegetable farmers that produce good foods like Carrots, Spinach, various types of Lettuce, Cabbage, the Squash family, etc... they have... well... they have to foot the entire bill..


    See the disconnect?


    THIS!!
  • iuew
    iuew Posts: 624 Member
    i can't count the number of times i've seen someone choose the salad at the restaurant, and it's so massive and covered with toppings and dressing that they could have eaten a couple big macs instead and been better off. same thing at subway. "yeah, i'll have the footlong bacon with extra bacon and salami, extra southwest sauce."

    Did you ever consider that that is just what they wanted to eat? I greatly prefer a yummy fatty calorific salad to a couple of big macs. wouldn't anyone? lol!
    Anyway my friend's brother was telling me (long ago) how stupid it is to get a veggie and then get mayonnaise. Uh, how is that stupid? I like mayo, I don't like the meat?

    of course that's the case for some people. however, there are also some who think that just because it's a salad or just because it's subway, it's automatically healthy.

    additionally, i share your love of mayo. i get the light version, but it's something i haven't eliminated.
  • chrisb75
    chrisb75 Posts: 395 Member
    additionally, i share your love of mayo. i get the light version, but it's something i haven't eliminated.

    Try spreading avocado on your next sandwich instead of mayo. If you mash it then spread it, it gives the same feel and the taste is 10X better than mayo IMHO.
  • NovemberJune
    NovemberJune Posts: 2,525 Member
    i can't count the number of times i've seen someone choose the salad at the restaurant, and it's so massive and covered with toppings and dressing that they could have eaten a couple big macs instead and been better off. same thing at subway. "yeah, i'll have the footlong bacon with extra bacon and salami, extra southwest sauce."

    Did you ever consider that that is just what they wanted to eat? I greatly prefer a yummy fatty calorific salad to a couple of big macs. wouldn't anyone? lol!
    Anyway my friend's brother was telling me (long ago) how stupid it is to get a veggie and then get mayonnaise. Uh, how is that stupid? I like mayo, I don't like the meat?

    of course that's the case for some people. however, there are also some who think that just because it's a salad or just because it's subway, it's automatically healthy.

    additionally, i share your love of mayo. i get the light version, but it's something i haven't eliminated.


    Probably true that some people do think they are getting a healthier choice by going with the salad or the diet coke with their big mac. :smile:

    I actually do get light mayo too. I haven't tried the avocado at subway because I'm always scared of restaurant guac.... lol! I do make my own all the time and I've been known to spread it on a mayo-free subway sandwich. yum. :wink:
  • iuew
    iuew Posts: 624 Member
    additionally, i share your love of mayo. i get the light version, but it's something i haven't eliminated.

    Try spreading avocado on your next sandwich instead of mayo. If you mash it then spread it, it gives the same feel and the taste is 10X better than mayo IMHO.

    that's something i will try. i had a small bit when subway offered it, but theirs was kind of tasteless.
  • runfatmanrun
    runfatmanrun Posts: 1,090 Member
    Strangely just talking about this at work. A local bar charges 3.99 for celery and carrot sticks with ranch. That price alone is retarded but it's the same price as a cup of clam chowder or a chili dog.
  • netsirk12
    netsirk12 Posts: 220 Member
    Yep, "healthy" foods are usually more. Plus we have all these venting machines and junk food everywhere you look. People wonder why America is so fat!

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    wait, is that a pizza machine?!?!? u can get pizza out of a machine?!?!? omg I want one!!!!!

    Nothing like that in NH lol
  • You didn't have to throw the Winking Lizard under the bus, it's not like they're the only ones that do this. I love that place, I always get the buffalo chicken sandwich with steamed veggies- one of the lowest cal things on the menu.

    Also, go to the store and buy all those ingredients and see how much it costs. It's not out of line.

    I completely agree. A piece of meat with some bread is much cheaper then veggies and things to make a salad. Have you compared the price of ketchup (for a burger) to a healthier option dressing. Big difference. When I go out to eat I don't order a burger because it's cheaper, I order it because it's delicious. If you don't want to pay more for a salad, stay home and eat. Or eat HALF of the burger and pay the upcharge for veggies instead of fries.
  • PunkyRachel
    PunkyRachel Posts: 1,959 Member
    Yep, "healthy" foods are usually more. Plus we have all these venting machines and junk food everywhere you look. People wonder why America is so fat!

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    wait, is that a pizza machine?!?!? u can get pizza out of a machine?!?!? omg I want one!!!!!

    Nothing like that in NH lol

    Yeppers! They had both of these at the Vatterot College my hubby went to.
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    I call this "six pack tax"
  • stevean
    stevean Posts: 7 Member
    If you really want to scream, try to find low sodium foods at a restaurant.
    Even the salads often don't qualify.
    Sometimes the only item on the menu that is < 250 mg of sodium is the fruit plate.
    There is absolutely NO REASON for an entree to have 2500 mg of sodium in it.
  • meagalayne
    meagalayne Posts: 3,382 Member
    How is a salad with CHICKEN only $.50 cents cheaper than a full SALMON DINNER?!?!? I mean, I get the salmon with grilled veggies and keep it healthy (why not for only $.50 cents more), but what the heck is wrong with America?!?! No wonder half the country is fat/obese/overweight/Etc!!
    Problem solved- Order the salmon! Fish is so healthy, full of great omegas and other micro-nutrients, and if you eat it in moderation (not 12oz at dinner) with some veggies and a whole grain, it's a perfectly healthy meal. Grilled salmon is a such a nice treat, too and not something you would have every day at home. Salad you can get anywhere.

    You're welcome :wink:

    **Edit - I just finally loaded the site. Better yet - stop eating at places with "Tavern" in the name. That should help greatly with your options... :noway: That being said, there are at least 6 items on this menu that you could easily select, eat and enjoy without any issue on a 1600 cal diet. Compared to most "taverns" in Canada, this place has a LOT of alternatives. Hardly the worst offender.
  • FR89
    FR89 Posts: 186 Member
    In England we have a portuguese restaurant called nandos and the calories generally aren't too horific but for a salad it can be a bit excessive especially when you're trying to keep the cost and the calories down. also they put on the menu to order sides with your dinner so it all quickly adds up on both counts but one meal at nandos with a soft drink would cost like $20


    http://www.nandos.co.uk/themenu click on nutrition for the calories

    mmmmmmmmm I love me some Nandos!!!! awesome periperi chicken!!!


    mmmmmm nandos!!!!! LOVE IT!! lol
  • tadpole242
    tadpole242 Posts: 507 Member
    Salad is expensive, they have it on the menu, but no one orders it, so they throw away a lot, which make it expensive so no one orders it,,,,,,
    unless you eat out a lot, you shouldn't have to worry about one meal heavy in caloriess. eat what you like, Work it off later.
    If you do eat out a lot, then don't just don't.
  • Sharyn913
    Sharyn913 Posts: 777 Member
    The salad seems to have just as much food as the other dishes. Lettuce itself may not cost as much, but the bacon, eggs, all that stuff adds up too. Please it takes more time to create.
  • illixer
    illixer Posts: 5
    I've noticed this trend too. I've always attributed it to the fact that produce is NOT cheap. Seafood & salad (which is what I'm primarily eating) are much more pricey than red meat & chicken.
  • jellybeanhed313
    jellybeanhed313 Posts: 344 Member
    Fresh produce is very expensive. Especially when some of it goes bad before it can even be used. Plus it is labor intensive to prep and put together salads. And ususally, when you add up all the things on a salad, plus dressing, you end up eating the same if not more calories than a burger and fries. Yes, it is a better choice as far as getting in more veggies, but don't think a salad is healthy just because it's called a salad.

    It is always more expensive to eat healthy, no matter if it's at home or at a restaurant.