Peanut Butter advice - Help!

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  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Obese people know how to measure their food. Your post is extremely condescending.

    If a person cannot control him or herself with peanut butter, that person might want to make the choice to not have it in the house. I've had to do that with certain foods myself. But not everyone is incapable of measuring a portion and sticking to it, just because that person happens to be obese.

    I think that's a bit unfair. Most obese people are like that because of their bad relationship with food. In your second paragraph you are actually agreeing that if you have food control issues you shouldn't put yourself in a position where you can be week. Same can be said of drugs, alcohol, smoking, etc...

    The post to which I refer assumes that every obese person has the same issues as every other obese person. Many overweight people will sit down with a bag of potato chips and eat the whole thing. Many obese people can't stand potato chips. And many like them but don't overdo it. They may overdo it with a different food.

    Same with peanut butter.

    To say that every obese person should not eat peanut butter at all is condescending. And someone on a weight loss program is learning to measure portions and stick to reasonable amounts. If a person (who is obese or not) can measure a portion of PB, eat it and stop, then there is no reason that person shouldn't have PB. The assumption that all people who are obese have the same food issues is condescending.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    And, by the way, I am overweight because I had a fast metabolism most of my life and didn't have to worry about what I ate. As I got older, my body changed and I had to learn to watch portions. I never in my life (except on VERY rare special occasions) ate past the point of being hungry or ate when I wasn't hungry because of emotions or whatever.

    Not every overweight person has a poor relationship with food. Sometimes they just never had to think about it before. I never ate vast amounts of any food. I just ate things that were higher in calories because they tasted good and I could get away with it. And then I lost all the weight I gained (and ate peanut butter every single day in the process) and I regained because of birth control., not lifestyle choices.
  • akiramezu
    akiramezu Posts: 278
    Obese people know how to measure their food. Your post is extremely condescending.

    If a person cannot control him or herself with peanut butter, that person might want to make the choice to not have it in the house. I've had to do that with certain foods myself. But not everyone is incapable of measuring a portion and sticking to it, just because that person happens to be obese.

    I think that's a bit unfair. Most obese people are like that because of their bad relationship with food. In your second paragraph you are actually agreeing that if you have food control issues you shouldn't put yourself in a position where you can be week. Same can be said of drugs, alcohol, smoking, etc...

    It's also a bit unfair to say that a specific portion of the population should reject peanut butter as a quality food because of its caloric density. People aren't fat from over-eating peanut butter. People are fat because they just don't care. If they care, then they are using this site to learn how to eat properly, and therefore, can recognize the nutritional value of peanut butter without overdoing it.

    You have to stop being so offended and defensive, nobody here is picking on anybody, i was merely mentioning how people can over do it with the peanut butter and peanut butter being calorie dense is not something someone with poor relationship with food should eat, EVEN if they are here trying to understand the nutritional value. Coconut oil, olive oil is good, but you wouldn't want someone whose trying to lose weight drizzle their food with olive oil regardless of its good level of monosaturated fat. That being said with dark chocolate, yeah it's super healthy for you, but someone who in the past has binge eaten on chocolate, should stay away from dark chocolate despite it's antioxidant benefits. RED WINE FOR THAT MATTER as well. There are just things you should stay away from until you establish a good relationship with food and are well on track with your progress.
  • Leeanne1974
    Leeanne1974 Posts: 207 Member
    Well, I had to check what remote UK island you were living in... Kent!?

    Go back to Tesco or Asda and try again. It's next to the peanut butter.
    hey there Cheeky! lol! They don't stock it in the Asdas where I go to! I live in a smallish village where there is only an Asdas, I looked today. They DON'T have it in our Asdas so there lol
    ;0)
    I will, however, try Holland and Barratt this weekend.
    :p
  • akiramezu
    akiramezu Posts: 278
    I'm just going to stop replying, because you get all butt hurt and offended, not wanting to admit the truth. So do whatever you want to do :) and continue as you are now :)
  • HulaHips83
    HulaHips83 Posts: 129
    I eat the generic reduced fat PB. No more than a tbsp at a time though. I usually eat it with apple slices.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Obese people know how to measure their food. Your post is extremely condescending.

    If a person cannot control him or herself with peanut butter, that person might want to make the choice to not have it in the house. I've had to do that with certain foods myself. But not everyone is incapable of measuring a portion and sticking to it, just because that person happens to be obese.

    I think that's a bit unfair. Most obese people are like that because of their bad relationship with food. In your second paragraph you are actually agreeing that if you have food control issues you shouldn't put yourself in a position where you can be week. Same can be said of drugs, alcohol, smoking, etc...

    It's also a bit unfair to say that a specific portion of the population should reject peanut butter as a quality food because of its caloric density. People aren't fat from over-eating peanut butter. People are fat because they just don't care. If they care, then they are using this site to learn how to eat properly, and therefore, can recognize the nutritional value of peanut butter without overdoing it.

    You have to stop being so offended and defensive, nobody here is picking on anybody, i was merely mentioning how people can over do it with the peanut butter and peanut butter being calorie dense is not something someone with poor relationship with food should eat, EVEN if they are here trying to understand the nutritional value. Coconut oil, olive oil is good, but you wouldn't want someone whose trying to lose weight drizzle their food with olive oil regardless of its good level of monosaturated fat. That being said with dark chocolate, yeah it's super healthy for you, but someone who in the past has binge eaten on chocolate, should stay away from dark chocolate despite it's antioxidant benefits. RED WINE FOR THAT MATTER as well. There are just things you should stay away from until you establish a good relationship with food and are well on track with your progress.

    Stop projecting your food issues on everyone else.

    Someone trying to lose weight absolutely SHOULD drizzle olive oil on their food, as the fats in olive oil have been proven to not only help lose weight, but specifically target visceral fat, which is the most dangerous kind. The same with dark chocolate.

    And I ate peanut butter, healthy oils and dark chocolate every day during my weight loss. I went from a size 12 to a size 6 in fewer than three months. But according to you, I did it all wrong.
  • flyuk
    flyuk Posts: 28
    I think the point that was being made is that PB is a VERY calorie dense food, which if you are not careful with can ruin hours of hard work eating well or working out in the gym. As I said, I only have it to bolster my intake, because it is very easy to make a 1000kcal shake with just Peanut/Almond Butter, milk and honey.

    If you come from a background of eating lots of food, like me, a teaspoon of PB is not going to be as satisfying as the equivalent in salad/tuna/chicken/etc.

    It's not only about eating healthy, it's also about eating cleverly.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    I'm just going to stop replying, because you get all butt hurt and offended, not wanting to admit the truth. So do whatever you want to do :) and continue as you are now :)

    The truth is that you can't separate your own issues from the rest of the world and are one of those people who assumes what's true for you is what's true for everyone. And that's what I and everyone else has a problem with.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    Obese people know how to measure their food. Your post is extremely condescending.

    If a person cannot control him or herself with peanut butter, that person might want to make the choice to not have it in the house. I've had to do that with certain foods myself. But not everyone is incapable of measuring a portion and sticking to it, just because that person happens to be obese.

    I think that's a bit unfair. Most obese people are like that because of their bad relationship with food. In your second paragraph you are actually agreeing that if you have food control issues you shouldn't put yourself in a position where you can be week. Same can be said of drugs, alcohol, smoking, etc...

    It's also a bit unfair to say that a specific portion of the population should reject peanut butter as a quality food because of its caloric density. People aren't fat from over-eating peanut butter. People are fat because they just don't care. If they care, then they are using this site to learn how to eat properly, and therefore, can recognize the nutritional value of peanut butter without overdoing it.

    You have to stop being so offended and defensive, nobody here is picking on anybody, i was merely mentioning how people can over do it with the peanut butter and peanut butter being calorie dense is not something someone with poor relationship with food should eat, EVEN if they are here trying to understand the nutritional value. Coconut oil, olive oil is good, but you wouldn't want someone whose trying to lose weight drizzle their food with olive oil regardless of its good level of monosaturated fat. That being said with dark chocolate, yeah it's super healthy for you, but someone who in the past has binge eaten on chocolate, should stay away from dark chocolate despite it's antioxidant benefits. RED WINE FOR THAT MATTER as well. There are just things you should stay away from until you establish a good relationship with food and are well on track with your progress.

    First off, when you make assumptions about a group, anybody could get offended. Secondly, you are an idiot! How can one learn moderation if they never attempt to practice it? We can't NOT eat! What foods would you consider safe for me to eat since apparently, losing 75 lbs in a year eating things high in healthy fats, such as peanut butter and olive oil, was a bad idea for me as I don't know how to control myself?
  • Leeanne1974
    Leeanne1974 Posts: 207 Member
    Oh and for the record I don't struggle to stay under my cals at all.
    Its very rare that I go over.
    What I was trying to do was have something other than fruit and raw veggies for lunch (which i have been having for a while) which would fill me up until my early evening meal.
    I had read lots of positive things about peanut butter on here.

    Oh and one more thing. That *kitten* about not knowing portion control. what horsecrap. I am overweight because I have PCOS. It messes around with your insulin levels, make you pile on weight and makes losing weight a lot harder than for the average person. Try googling it....
    Pffft. Can't control portions indeed.

    Some people are so holier than thou that it makes me spit feathers TBH.
  • Amysgetnfit
    Amysgetnfit Posts: 231
    Peanut butter is a good source of protein- and monounsaturated (GOOD) fat , as well as a good source of fiber, magnesium and potassium.

    Read/compare labels and opt for the one(s) you can find that are LOWEST in SODIUM and SUGAR.
    Generally it's the natural ones and/or organic.
    Note: Reduced fat ones are most often HIGHER in sugar/sodium (which is true of most reduced fat products)

    If you find them not sweet enough, you can always sprinkle a little of your own preferred sweetener on top. I do this with stevia.

    ^^^^THIS^^^^ But as a self professed peanut butter addict it is very easy to consume too much & be looking at 500 calories instead of the real serving size amount!
  • Amysgetnfit
    Amysgetnfit Posts: 231
    Peanut butter is a good source of protein- and monounsaturated (GOOD) fat , as well as a good source of fiber, magnesium and potassium.

    Read/compare labels and opt for the one(s) you can find that are LOWEST in SODIUM and SUGAR.
    Generally it's the natural ones and/or organic.
    Note: Reduced fat ones are most often HIGHER in sugar/sodium (which is true of most reduced fat products)

    If you find them not sweet enough, you can always sprinkle a little of your own preferred sweetener on top. I do this with stevia.

    ^^^^THIS^^^^ But as a self professed peanut butter addict it is very easy to consume too much & be looking at 500 calories instead of the real serving size amount!
  • gwenmf
    gwenmf Posts: 888 Member
    there is PB2, i dont know if they sell it in the UK but its 45 calories for 2 tbsp and i actually like it and i'm a peanut butter lover. BUT my all time fav kind is Skippy ALL NATURAL. as long as you dont eat too much PB you will be okay. 2 tbsp wont hurt your diet in my opinion :)

    I keep hearing about PB2 --- where do you get it? I'm in the US. Does Trader Joe's have it or regular grocery stores?
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    I'm just going to stop replying, because you get all butt hurt and offended, not wanting to admit the truth. So do whatever you want to do :) and continue as you are now :)

    How can you, a complete and total stranger, pass any judgments about the truth of my weight gain or weight loss?
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    there is PB2, i dont know if they sell it in the UK but its 45 calories for 2 tbsp and i actually like it and i'm a peanut butter lover. BUT my all time fav kind is Skippy ALL NATURAL. as long as you dont eat too much PB you will be okay. 2 tbsp wont hurt your diet in my opinion :)

    I keep hearing about PB2 --- where do you get it? I'm in the US. Does Trader Joe's have it or regular grocery stores?

    I've seen it in stores randomly, but you can get it online. Personally, I don't care for it. I had it once and it was OK, but it's not the same as real PB to me and not worth it. I think the powder would be good for sprinkling in a smoothie or on ice cream or something, but on toast or an apple or any other way, it just isn't the same.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Peanut butter is loaded with good fats, and gram for gram fat has more than twice the calories of protein and carbs. It is a very healthy food because of the good fat, plus the fiber, protein and other nutrients. But, you do need to eat it in moderation due to the calories.
  • flyuk
    flyuk Posts: 28
    Oh and for the record I don't struggle to stay under my cals at all.
    Its very rare that I go over.
    What I was trying to do was have something other than fruit and raw veggies for lunch (which i have been having for a while) which would fill me up until my early evening meal.
    I had read lots of positive things about peanut butter on here.

    Oh and one more thing. That *kitten* about not knowing portion control. what horsecrap. I am overweight because I have PCOS. It messes around with your insulin levels, make you pile on weight and makes losing weight a lot harder than for the average person. Try googling it....
    Pffft. Can't control portions indeed.

    Some people are so holier than thou that it makes me spit feathers TBH.

    myprotein and bulkpowders sell the pure butters, they are much cheaper than Sainburys, Tesco, ASDA and contain nothing but the nuts. The only downside is that you need to stir them every time you use them as they have no Palm Oil as an emulsifier to keep them from separating.
  • Asda do a reduced fat smooth peanut butter, I like it on toast for brekkie.
  • FrugalMomsRock75
    FrugalMomsRock75 Posts: 698 Member
    I eat peanut butter by the tablespoon. Literally. Usually several a day! Almond butter too.

    I just started making my own. Super easy, no sugar, and VERY DELICIOUS.

    1# of dry roasted peanuts. Put them in a processor. Begin processing. It'll go through several changes, you'll think you've failed because it looks too thick to ever be anything like wonderful, creamy peanut butter. Don't give up. Keep processing, and it'll reach that state of creamy deliciousness. Then just pulse until it's as smooth as you want. Store in a glass jar in the fridge.

    you can do the same with almonds since you're having trouble finding that. :)

    I go through at least a pint (one pound of peanuts) a week. Plus my almond butter.
  • JozefTorba
    JozefTorba Posts: 17 Member
    They do have almond butter and Holland and Barrett also try to have a look at www.goodnessdirect.co.uk When buying PB go for natural with no sugar added. You can get it Holland and Barrett either online or at the store.
  • I purchase peanut flour or PB2 online, mix with water, artificial sweetner and a pinch of salt and it works for me May not be quite a smooth as Jif, but a great substitute.

    I use on celery, make as dip for apples, etc.

    Esp.good mixed with greek yogurt and add cut up apples, pears or bananas

    Use as substitute in recipes, etc.

    Since the powder eliminates the oils it is ONLY 45 cal for 2 TBSP of PB2 insteaed of the 190 for 2 TBSP of regualr peanut butter.

    This is my salvation when it comes to peanut butter.
  • michaela531
    michaela531 Posts: 44 Member
    there is PB2, i dont know if they sell it in the UK but its 45 calories for 2 tbsp and i actually like it and i'm a peanut butter lover. BUT my all time fav kind is Skippy ALL NATURAL. as long as you dont eat too much PB you will be okay. 2 tbsp wont hurt your diet in my opinion :)

    I keep hearing about PB2 --- where do you get it? I'm in the US. Does Trader Joe's have it or regular grocery stores?

    I bought some yesterday at HyVee in the health food section. I haven't tried it yet, but am excited to today. :)
  • stuffinmuffin
    stuffinmuffin Posts: 985 Member
    I didn't really eat peanut butter whilst in weight loss because of the high calories. Now in maintenance I eat the Whole Earth one every day stirred into my porridge (tastes delicious and makes the porridge much more satiating). You can get almond/cashew butter from any Holland and Barrett and most supermarkets now in the UK...
  • flyuk
    flyuk Posts: 28
    I didn't really eat peanut butter whilst in weight loss because of the high calories. Now in maintenance I eat the Whole Earth one every day stirred into my porridge (tastes delicious and makes the porridge much more satiating). You can get almond/cashew butter from any Holland and Barrett and most supermarkets now in the UK...

    In porridge... oooooh, I like this idea.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Is there a store near you where you can get fresh peanuts ground through a machine? That's your best option. I have that done at Whole Foods locally where I live
    Or, just use a food processor and grind the peanuts yourself. It takes 1 minute. That's the best option, because I have full control over the variety and the roast, rather than whatever type of peanut Whole Foods happens to dump into their machine.
  • Hi all
    I am always reading how some of the guys on here eat peanut butter with celery etc and claim its a great food when you are dieting etc.
    I had some sunpat crunchy peanut butter with Celery for my lunch and, yes, it was gorgeous.
    It was only after I had a massive great dollop though that I logged it on here and nearly fainted with shock at the cals lol.
    Can anyone please advise me if it has other benefits though that way out the high calorie thing?

    I live in the UK and I have yet to find anywhere local to me that sells almond / cashew etc butter. Please don't recommend I eat that instead because I have looked for it but to no avail.
    Thank you all so much in advance!
    Leeanne x

    IMO, if you're trying to lose weight, you pretty much have to give up peanut butter. If you really need a fix, add teaspoon to a shake, but you can't just eat it. Cashew butter is worse and less healthy. Even almond butter, which is far far healthier than peanut butter (better type of fat, etc), is still very calorie dense, so you trade a lot of calories for a mere tablespoon. I am totally hooked on almond butter, but I've had to cut it out of my morning shakes because it was just bumping the calories up too much.

    The big thing is, make sure you weigh it, so you know how much you're actually getting in. If you want to keep eating it, just track it and adjust your daily calories in other ways.
  • there is PB2, i dont know if they sell it in the UK but its 45 calories for 2 tbsp and i actually like it and i'm a peanut butter lover. BUT my all time fav kind is Skippy ALL NATURAL. as long as you dont eat too much PB you will be okay. 2 tbsp wont hurt your diet in my opinion :)

    I keep hearing about PB2 --- where do you get it? I'm in the US. Does Trader Joe's have it or regular grocery stores?

    I bought some yesterday at HyVee in the health food section. I haven't tried it yet, but am excited to today. :)

    What is it? How do they reduce the calories? Is it soy or something?
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    there is PB2, i dont know if they sell it in the UK but its 45 calories for 2 tbsp and i actually like it and i'm a peanut butter lover. BUT my all time fav kind is Skippy ALL NATURAL. as long as you dont eat too much PB you will be okay. 2 tbsp wont hurt your diet in my opinion :)

    I keep hearing about PB2 --- where do you get it? I'm in the US. Does Trader Joe's have it or regular grocery stores?

    I bought some yesterday at HyVee in the health food section. I haven't tried it yet, but am excited to today. :)

    What is it? How do they reduce the calories? Is it soy or something?

    They remove all the fat and it's powdered. You can use oil or water to reconstitute it and spread it or sprinkle it on something.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    IMO, if you're trying to lose weight, you pretty much have to give up peanut butter. If you really need a fix, add teaspoon to a shake, but you can't just eat it.

    I guess those 36 pounds I lost while eating peanut butter every single day were imaginary?