Toddler and Tiaras

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  • lg3703
    lg3703 Posts: 190
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    There's always going to be pageants, cheerleaders, dance competitions... personally- that stuff never interested me. But if a kids wants to try something new (safe) and is being taught a healthy attitude by responsible parents, I don't mind. Any team sport, school plays... tons of social activies unfortunately will always result in winners and... disappointment. Its up to us to support and guide our children in their endeavours. That's my opinion only.

    Athletic competitions, academic comepetitions, try-outs for sports or plays are sooooo different than a beauty pageant. IMHO
    No offence but if you think cheerleading isn't a popularity contest ... okay. If she doesn't have fun, she probably won't want to do it again. If she does then ill AGAIN make sure its NOT that crazy crap on tv but normal small town princess stuff. She's not wrong to want to ride the float- lol. That's all it is. Her room is pink. She likes to play dress up. She's a normal little girl. I'm sooooo not gonna make a big deal out of it.
  • lg3703
    lg3703 Posts: 190
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    I never met many stripper's that were former pageant girls.....LOL
    :huh:

    I was replying to an comment made earlier about "mini strippers" I forgot to quote it.... :happy:
    so... you know strippers? Lol. J/k
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
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    child abuse
  • determined136
    determined136 Posts: 332
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    I have only seen the show once....and that was enough. I was struck at the behavior of the kids. It is all about them and they know it. They do, say and act however they want because they know they will get what they want. Shame on the parents!
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
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    No offence but if you think cheerleading isn't a popularity contest ... okay. If she doesn't have fun, she probably won't want to do it again. If she does then ill AGAIN make sure its NOT that crazy crap on tv but normal small town princess stuff. She's not wrong to want to ride the float- lol. That's all it is. Her room is pink. She likes to play dress up. She's a normal little girl. I'm sooooo not gonna make a big deal out of it.

    There's a difference between "popularity contests" and being judged on your beauty. Football is HUGE here in Texas, and I'm amazed at the talent and athletic ability of many of the cheerleaders. They're not just voted on by how popular they are anymore; these girls are athletes!
  • rextcat
    rextcat Posts: 1,408 Member
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    if your kid wants to do it sure......however the crazy parents on the show that are living vicarously thru their kids.....need a good sound beating......also anyone there with out their kid in it(or helping a friends kid neice nefew) should be soundly beat as well as well

    cheeres:bigsmile:
  • tbskipp
    tbskipp Posts: 184 Member
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    I let me daughter participate in what is called non-glam pageants. Meaning there is no makeup, no fake nails, teethe, or anything else... Its just the girls in nice dresses/gowns.

    I think that if you start a young girl wearing make up and all of that other stuff, it is sending the wrong message...


    You are basically telling them to win, you have to hide who you are, so in reality you are not good enough. You have to be this false, fake looking girl to be noticed... If yo0u go down that road, it is very hard to come back... I think all children are beautiful in their own way, and should not need make up, wigs, nails, fake teethe, or super skimpy swim suits in order to feel loved. A good case in point.

    A lady i know here in TN bought her daughter a swim suit, her daughter is 6 years old, mine is 5 years old. She messages me on face book and says, I have a great pageant swim suit if you want it, I bought it for my girl but it doesn't fit. I said I would look at it..(I am very strict on my girls swim suits) So I look at it, and it is a 4t, He daughter wears a 6/7 in clothes... I said I guess it doesn't fit, this is too small for my girl too... She said, no it isn't too small, it wasn't tight enough... And it didn't hug her in the right places.

    Another thing,

    When you put young girls in skimpy outfits, that are skin tight, you are giving them the ok for sexuality. not only that, you are providing lots of eye candy for the perverts out there...


    If you can not tell by my post, I am against the the full glitz/glam pageants, but I will support my daughter in non-glam pageants, as long as it is what she wants to do, but she knows that she is still number one in my life regardless.

    THIS!!!!!
    I have a 6 yr old daughter and totally agree. No bikinis at the pool. No 'grown' looking clothes either. I want her to be a little girl as long as possible. She is pretty well-rounded... likes to dance, likes to play soccer, likes to wear a dress and likes to get dirty. Kids grow up too fast these days.
  • srhershey
    srhershey Posts: 181 Member
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    I've seen the show once, and I was very disgusted at the parents, the judges, and the producers of the show for allowing this to even air. It baffles me how parents can be so "abusive" to their kids just so the parent can enjoy the prize money or the attention. These kids look extremely creepy with their fake hair, nails, teeth, caked on make-up, and stripper clothes. The kids are being forced to do things they don't want to do just to make their mom happy. Where are the fathers??? Why aren't father's putting their foot down on this. My husband would never let our 4 yr old daughter look like that. Shoot, we have her taking taekwondo. What these parents are doing, is raising fake, spoiled brats. Their parents will get what's coming to them when the kid gets older, more demanding, bratty, spoiled, and disrespectful.

    karma's a b*tch
  • oregonzoo
    oregonzoo Posts: 4,251 Member
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    It's child abuse.

    I don't know how it ever got ok to parade a 5 year old around dressed like a 5 dollar ho.
  • AnitaVolpato
    AnitaVolpato Posts: 204 Member
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    I never met many stripper's that were former pageant girls.....LOL
    :huh:

    I was replying to an comment made earlier about "mini strippers" I forgot to quote it.... :happy:
    so... you know strippers? Lol. J/k

    Yes, I actually know plenty of them...... I don't recall any of them mentioning being placed in pageants. Most were tomboy's growing up a few cheerleaders her and there. Girl's from broken home's, etc. etc... I am sure out of the 100's that I have met there might have been 1 or 2 so called pageant girls.. Most of the girls that I have met that were in pageant's similar to these ended up sorority girls, married to their high school sweetheart's and wanna be socialite's... pretty "normal" acceptable American lifestyle..... I always say never hate on a stripper unless you have known one... They aren't all stereotypical you know.... :laugh:

    I do think the little girls are being pushed into doing these types of things because the mother had no life and/or looks... :wink:
  • Papillon22
    Papillon22 Posts: 1,160 Member
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    Wrong on so many levels...and for those who say "if the child wants it", it's not as naive as that. These parents spend thousands of dollars (on dresses, make-up, tanning sessions, etc.) and incredible amounts of time and energy on these little girls. It is, ultimately, about fulfilling the parents' needs and doing a huge disservice to their daughters.
  • MrsLVF
    MrsLVF Posts: 787 Member
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    Hate them! I'm sure all of the parents aren't horrible, however my sister put all three of her girls in pageants and she was/is a horrible parent. The pageants were always her top priority, she has never kept a steady job and was on financial aid, food stamps & section 8 housing the entire time she was putting her girls in pageants. I've seen what it has done to the children (all are now adults one became a stripper) It's just disgusting, what some parents have their kids do and think it's ok. I do not speak to my sister, nor does my family for this & a few other reasons.
  • lg3703
    lg3703 Posts: 190
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    I never met many stripper's that were former pageant girls.....LOL
    :huh:

    I was replying to an comment made earlier about "mini strippers" I forgot to quote it.... :happy:
    so... you know strippers? Lol. J/k

    Yes, I actually know plenty of them...... I don't recall any of them mentioning being placed in pageants. Most were tomboy's growing up a few cheerleaders her and there. Girl's from broken home's, etc. etc... I am sure out of the 100's that I have met there might have been 1 or 2 so called pageant girls.. Most of the girls that I have met that were in pageant's similar to these ended up sorority girls, married to their high school sweetheart's and wanna be socialite's... pretty "normal" acceptable American lifestyle..... I always say never hate on a stripper unless you have known one... They aren't all stereotypical you know.... :laugh:

    I do think the little girls are being pushed into doing these types of things because the mother had no life and/or looks... :wink:
    I was just trying to lighten the mood! Lol I judge no one. The few I've met we're single moms just trying to support their kids without going on welfare. =]
  • AnitaVolpato
    AnitaVolpato Posts: 204 Member
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    I never met many stripper's that were former pageant girls.....LOL
    :huh:

    I was replying to an comment made earlier about "mini strippers" I forgot to quote it.... :happy:
    so... you know strippers? Lol. J/k

    Yes, I actually know plenty of them...... I don't recall any of them mentioning being placed in pageants. Most were tomboy's growing up a few cheerleaders her and there. Girl's from broken home's, etc. etc... I am sure out of the 100's that I have met there might have been 1 or 2 so called pageant girls.. Most of the girls that I have met that were in pageant's similar to these ended up sorority girls, married to their high school sweetheart's and wanna be socialite's... pretty "normal" acceptable American lifestyle..... I always say never hate on a stripper unless you have known one... They aren't all stereotypical you know.... :laugh:

    I do think the little girls are being pushed into doing these types of things because the mother had no life and/or looks... :wink:
    I was just trying to lighten the mood! Lol I judge no one. The few I've met we're single moms just trying to support their kids without going on welfare. =]

    Exactly, a lot of them support their kids and provide them a great life. Then there are the "bad one's" and ALL of them get a bad rap because of the "bad ones"....

    It's always a touchy subject with people... because they hate strippers and also hate people on welfare so which one is right you know? but they are very curious about pole dancing lessons... I always get a kick out of that..... LMAO
  • ShilohMaier
    ShilohMaier Posts: 135
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    Those shows break my heart. Those little girls are are being taught by their MOTHERS to wiggle their butts and shake their not yet developed chests for a trophy and some prize money. The sexualization of children in our culture is horrifying. Who was it? Abercrombie that had stuffed bikini tops for 7 year olds? WHY???? I've read so many gut-wrenching articles about the child-porn rings that they've been busting lately... there are already so many dysfunctional people that look at a normal child (infants even) as sexual beings, why do we want to tempt the not-quite-as-dysfunctional-but-on-the-edge ones by actually portraying a child as a sexual being in skin tight clothes & make-up?
  • littlebuddy84
    littlebuddy84 Posts: 1,000 Member
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    I think it is porn for pedophiles....parents should be shot for doing this.
    I totally agree!
  • ProudArmyWifey8
    ProudArmyWifey8 Posts: 41
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    I actually like that show, i mean dont get me wrong some of those parents need help. Growing up my mom put us in pageants cause we wanted too, it is a TV SHOW PEOPLE, they show the crazy over dreaming parents so that ppl who like to judge watch it. There making their ratings and thats all they care about.

    There is pros & cons to pageants but tv only shows cons. If you dont like it, dont watch it.
  • Gwen7121
    Gwen7121 Posts: 126 Member
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    No offence but if you think cheerleading isn't a popularity contest ... okay. If she doesn't have fun, she probably won't want to do it again. If she does then ill AGAIN make sure its NOT that crazy crap on tv but normal small town princess stuff. She's not wrong to want to ride the float- lol. That's all it is. Her room is pink. She likes to play dress up. She's a normal little girl. I'm sooooo not gonna make a big deal out of it.

    There's a difference between "popularity contests" and being judged on your beauty. Football is HUGE here in Texas, and I'm amazed at the talent and athletic ability of many of the cheerleaders. They're not just voted on by how popular they are anymore; these girls are athletes!

    Where you're at, maybe it's all about athletic ability but where I come from - it was all popularity. And the pageants for scholarships are not completely based on looks. To get to Miss USA, for example, you have to get through your state, for which you have to get through other pageants. Anyway, none of the contestants just stand there and look pretty to win. There are interviews, they are judged on poise and maturity, and whether they are good to be a role model for young women. Look at the winners of the bigger pageants. These are not empty headed barbies. They are accomplished young women. There's a lot more to the pageant than just the beauty contest. Yes, looks are part of it, but you will never see a Miss USA with a sleazy reputation, no education and no ambition. To put the entire pageant industry into a pigeon hole is the same saying all athletes are dumb jocks.

    T&T is trash tv, just like all the other reality shows. Its like the news after a tornado in the south. They don't interview the physician or lawyer who just lost their house. They go straight to the trailer park, and hunt down the most toothless, deeply accented, 'people of walmart' person that they can find because it makes people watch.

    Then again, I think all those shows are trash. T&T, Dance Moms, The Bachelor, Glass House, Real Housewives & Kardashians. So I guess I'm guilty of pigeon-holing reality tv. LOL :laugh:
  • MrsFolk
    MrsFolk Posts: 205
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    Disgrace. Horrible horrible idea to subject your children to pageants the way they do!
  • macpatti
    macpatti Posts: 4,280 Member
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    And the pageants for scholarships are not completely based on looks. To get to Miss USA, for example, you have to get through your state, for which you have to get through other pageants. Anyway, none of the contestants just stand there and look pretty to win. There are interviews, they are judged on poise and maturity, and whether they are good to be a role model for young women. Look at the winners of the bigger pageants. These are not empty headed barbies. They are accomplished young women. There's a lot more to the pageant than just the beauty contest. Yes, looks are part of it, but you will never see a Miss USA with a sleazy reputation, no education and no ambition. To put the entire pageant industry into a pigeon hole is the same saying all athletes are dumb jocks.
    I was referring to children in pageants, not those in their late teens and early 20's.

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