Rushfit vs. TapouT XT - My review/opinion/observation.
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I'm new here .looking to lose a lot of weight.Most exercise routines bore me to tears but seeing both Rushfit and Tapout XT got me excited.Being older (44) I'm more about getting as lean as possible rather than building a lot of muscle.As a newbie to working out can I buy and modify either of the programs I mentioned or is there a program I should get to work up to those? I'm just under 6 feet and about 340 pounds.Im so done being the big guy and my body does not in anyway match my personality
These are not beginner programs and many of the moves you do cannot be modified to beginner levels.0 -
Any suggestions as to what to start with then? Ten Minute Trainer?0
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Just out of curiosity, do you think Tapout XT really burns 1200 calories? Or is it just hype? I ordered a heart rate monitor and it should be here soon but it doesn't feel like it burns more than Insanity.0
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I've enjoyed reading the reviews and responses.
I just finished Week 3 of TapouT XT, and I do like the program a lot. I don't mind the extra ab DVD, but it does seem like overkill.
My fitness goals are weight loss (20 pounds) and toning.
I've done some P90X and Insanity workouts, and there is definitely a resemblance. I like the kicks, punches, and other fighting moves - that makes it more fun for me.0 -
Just out of curiosity, do you think Tapout XT really burns 1200 calories? Or is it just hype? I ordered a heart rate monitor and it should be here soon but it doesn't feel like it burns more than Insanity.
Depending on the workout, I burn between 300 and 700 calories.
I guess it's possible, but highly unlikely, to burn 1200.0 -
Thank you for your review. It will/has help me with my next choice. I look forward to reading and learning from the the replies to your post as well.
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this is so helpful! we have p90x already and i do TheFirm Express DVD set (I know, nowhere near the fitness level of you folks). I also tried out Michelle Dozois peak interval trning. HARD for me to make it thru the whole dvd. zumba was a thumbs down for me--boring and not coordinated enuf to do full moves.
I get from the posts that you are not a fan of jillian michaels. i haven't done anything from her so i don't care either way.
but for those of us who really need the calorie burn, not carved out muscles, what trainers or programs do you recommend?
I am almost 41 yrs old, 5ft 4, weigh 135 with goal of 125-127. exercise in some form 4 days per week. 30-50 min per workout.
you are a very thoughtful and knowledgeable reviewer and everyone's comments have also educated me. thanks!0 -
Depending on the workout, I burn between 300 and 700 calories.
I guess it's possible, but highly unlikely, to burn 1200.
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this is so helpful! we have p90x already and i do TheFirm Express DVD set (I know, nowhere near the fitness level of you folks). I also tried out Michelle Dozois peak interval trning. HARD for me to make it thru the whole dvd. zumba was a thumbs down for me--boring and not coordinated enuf to do full moves.
I get from the posts that you are not a fan of jillian michaels. i haven't done anything from her so i don't care either way.
but for those of us who really need the calorie burn, not carved out muscles, what trainers or programs do you recommend?
I am almost 41 yrs old, 5ft 4, weigh 135 with goal of 125-127. exercise in some form 4 days per week. 30-50 min per workout.
you are a very thoughtful and knowledgeable reviewer and everyone's comments have also educated me. thanks!
I am like you in that I am far too uncoordinated to be able to do dance-based workouts. Stuff like Zumba is totally out of the question for me. However there is one dance-based series I have tried that I can do some of. The Rockin' Body DVD set by Beachbody has the following workouts:
15 minute basic instructional workout
25 minute Express workout
30 minute buns and thighs workout using '80s hip hop dance music as a theme
35 minute Disco themed workout
45 minute Dance workout
45 minute light resistance/toning workout
I can get through the 15, 25, and both 45 minute long workouts. The 30 and 35 minute long workouts however incorporate a lot of movies I am too coordination challenged to do.
Really, though, to be honest, anything that burns calories will also lead to a chiseled look depending on how far you take it and how strict your nutrition habits are, as achieving that low of a bodyfat level is a result of nutrition more than exercise.
If you're willing to invest in some basic equipment however you can get even better results without following along with any DVD. If you can't make that investment, though, I'm going to have to say a good choice for you would be ChaLEAN Extreme. Bear in mind that because the workouts focus more on resistance training than cardio you won't necessarily see the results you want according to the scale as you will gain some muscle.0 -
Any suggestions as to what to start with then? Ten Minute Trainer?
Ten Minute Trainer is more or less a convenience workout. There are better choices if you're not a part of the "pressed for time" target audience. For something beginner friendly nothing beats Power 90 if you can get past the monotony of it.
However if you're willing to stray away from videos and do something better get a suspension trainer or sandbag training kit. AWESOME.0 -
I just started Rushfit a little over two weeks ago and I really do like like it, aside from those repetitive warm ups and cool downs. I also would have liked it to feel a little bit more..."upbeat"?...but I've put some music on in the background my last workout and that seemed to help and get me a little more pumped in between the "rounds" :-).
As a single mom of 3 kids who also tries to get to karate at least twice a week, it fits perfectly into my schedule. It is also not so high impact that it is too difficult on my "delicate knees". I have also got some training pointers from it that have helped in my workouts at karate as well. Not having done any of the other programs everyone is referring to and therefore having no real frame of comparison, all of the comments were very interesting and useful.
Thanks so much for all the great information here! It really has been helpful!0 -
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thanks! i knew about chalean but not the dance program. thanks for the suggestions!
and i agree--my eating is what will make or break my goals. in the 3 yrs ive been on here, some things i do better. and some things are still, oh, let's say--a challenge for me (cookies
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thanks again! this has been a great thread!0 -
Just out of curiosity, do you think Tapout XT really burns 1200 calories? Or is it just hype? I ordered a heart rate monitor and it should be here soon but it doesn't feel like it burns more than Insanity.
I can't see how that is possible unless you weigh >300 lbs. I go very hard during these workouts wearing a 20 lbs weight vest and never get over 600 on any of the routines. The toughest for me are Pylo and Cardio.0 -
Any suggestions as to what to start with then? Ten Minute Trainer?
Ten Minute Trainer is more or less a convenience workout. There are better choices if you're not a part of the "pressed for time" target audience. For something beginner friendly nothing beats Power 90 if you can get past the monotony of it.
However if you're willing to stray away from videos and do something better get a suspension trainer or sandbag training kit. AWESOME.
Sean you are dead on again! Power 90 is a perfect place to start for someone who is overweight and just getting back into fitness. This is something that should be eased into. I also think Chalean Extreme is another great starter program. The ability to use lighter weights and modify the moves as needed keep this program working.0 -
Okay so what do you suggest for me? I'm overweight, but I go to the gym 4-5 times a week. I take spinning 2-3 days and I do strength training (classes or by myself and both use free weights with ab worked in) 1-2 times a week. I've lost 55 lbs and I'm a little over 200 lbs now. Both Tapout and Rushfit interest me, but just when I think I've made a decision I read a new reply to this thread and I don't know which one I want or would be better for me.
My goal is weight loss and overall health. However, I want to do something that will keep me interested. I tried p90x early on in my journey and I returned it as it didn't interest me. That was also over a year ago and I thought that would be my start to my journey. I realized I wasn't ready for it and now I'm wondering if I'm ready for either of these programs.
I would like to keep spinning at least once or twice a week, but if that's not possible because I would over do it, I'm fine with that.
What are your thoughts?0 -
Okay so what do you suggest for me? I'm overweight, but I go to the gym 4-5 times a week. I take spinning 2-3 days and I do strength training (classes or by myself and both use free weights with ab worked in) 1-2 times a week. I've lost 55 lbs and I'm a little over 200 lbs now. Both Tapout and Rushfit interest me, but just when I think I've made a decision I read a new reply to this thread and I don't know which one I want or would be better for me.
My goal is weight loss and overall health. However, I want to do something that will keep me interested. I tried p90x early on in my journey and I returned it as it didn't interest me. That was also over a year ago and I thought that would be my start to my journey. I realized I wasn't ready for it and now I'm wondering if I'm ready for either of these programs.
I would like to keep spinning at least once or twice a week, but if that's not possible because I would over do it, I'm fine with that.
What are your thoughts?
Have you played the videos for each? TapouT kills my core but thats really all I feel it so I use it strictly as a cardio series and add it into the Body Beast (for strength) and Les Mills pump (for endurance). If you didn't like P90X, I doubt you'd like P90. To me sounds like you'd benefit more from Rushfit. From what I understand you can add your own cardio so you shouldn't be overtrained.0 -
Okay so what do you suggest for me? I'm overweight, but I go to the gym 4-5 times a week. I take spinning 2-3 days and I do strength training (classes or by myself and both use free weights with ab worked in) 1-2 times a week. I've lost 55 lbs and I'm a little over 200 lbs now. Both Tapout and Rushfit interest me, but just when I think I've made a decision I read a new reply to this thread and I don't know which one I want or would be better for me.
My goal is weight loss and overall health. However, I want to do something that will keep me interested. I tried p90x early on in my journey and I returned it as it didn't interest me. That was also over a year ago and I thought that would be my start to my journey. I realized I wasn't ready for it and now I'm wondering if I'm ready for either of these programs.
I would like to keep spinning at least once or twice a week, but if that's not possible because I would over do it, I'm fine with that.
What are your thoughts?
If you want to keep doing your spinning classes that's fine, but you will need to make modifications to the schedule if you want to do TapouT XT. As I mentioned before Rushfit leaves open 3 days a week for you to do your own cardio. Taking a spinning class on these days would be perfect. My suggestion would be if you were doing TapouT XT to remove plyo and the lower body resistance workouts from the schedule and instead do spinning classes on those days. Are your goals more functional or aesthetic in nature?0 -
Okay so what do you suggest for me? I'm overweight, but I go to the gym 4-5 times a week. I take spinning 2-3 days and I do strength training (classes or by myself and both use free weights with ab worked in) 1-2 times a week. I've lost 55 lbs and I'm a little over 200 lbs now. Both Tapout and Rushfit interest me, but just when I think I've made a decision I read a new reply to this thread and I don't know which one I want or would be better for me.
My goal is weight loss and overall health. However, I want to do something that will keep me interested. I tried p90x early on in my journey and I returned it as it didn't interest me. That was also over a year ago and I thought that would be my start to my journey. I realized I wasn't ready for it and now I'm wondering if I'm ready for either of these programs.
I would like to keep spinning at least once or twice a week, but if that's not possible because I would over do it, I'm fine with that.
What are your thoughts?
If you want to keep doing your spinning classes that's fine, but you will need to make modifications to the schedule if you want to do TapouT XT. As I mentioned before Rushfit leaves open 3 days a week for you to do your own cardio. Taking a spinning class on these days would be perfect. My suggestion would be if you were doing TapouT XT to remove plyo and the lower body resistance workouts from the schedule and instead do spinning classes on those days. Are your goals more functional or aesthetic in nature?
I want to look good, not necessarily in a bikini, but I want to be strong as well.0 -
Okay so what do you suggest for me? I'm overweight, but I go to the gym 4-5 times a week. I take spinning 2-3 days and I do strength training (classes or by myself and both use free weights with ab worked in) 1-2 times a week. I've lost 55 lbs and I'm a little over 200 lbs now. Both Tapout and Rushfit interest me, but just when I think I've made a decision I read a new reply to this thread and I don't know which one I want or would be better for me.
My goal is weight loss and overall health. However, I want to do something that will keep me interested. I tried p90x early on in my journey and I returned it as it didn't interest me. That was also over a year ago and I thought that would be my start to my journey. I realized I wasn't ready for it and now I'm wondering if I'm ready for either of these programs.
I would like to keep spinning at least once or twice a week, but if that's not possible because I would over do it, I'm fine with that.
What are your thoughts?
If you want to keep doing your spinning classes that's fine, but you will need to make modifications to the schedule if you want to do TapouT XT. As I mentioned before Rushfit leaves open 3 days a week for you to do your own cardio. Taking a spinning class on these days would be perfect. My suggestion would be if you were doing TapouT XT to remove plyo and the lower body resistance workouts from the schedule and instead do spinning classes on those days. Are your goals more functional or aesthetic in nature?
I want to look good, not necessarily in a bikini, but I want to be strong as well.
You should consider a heavy lifting program such as Starting Strength.0 -
I did them both including the P90x program all had there good points and bad points, but I join a gym in OHIO and started a program a true MMA Fitness workout called MMAXOUT this is by far the best workout ever and I haven't seen this kind of results in any other program. Its great to see post like this about reviews and it seems like everyone is enjoying the workouts but if you want to step up the game and get a very intense solid mma fitness program the MMAXOUT fitness is the way and alot of fun...
I workout here 4 days a week in Akron Ohio MMAXOUT and its awesome, they now have like 74 locations worldwide.0 -
Awesome review, thank you so much!
I was planning on doing Tapout, but now I think I may do Rushfit first. I really enjoy being able to do my own cardio on some days.0 -
I am going to throw in my opinion for what it's worth. I have done them both. P90 is a good workout. My problem is Tony. Sorry, he is probably a nice guy but I reached a point where I could not stand him. I do like the straight forward nature of Rushfit. Also, at this point in my life heavy lifting is starting to get painful. The calories required to maintain size is something I no longer want to do. At 47, I just want a good general work that does not require a lot of equipment. I now get up every morning and knock out a quick RF workout. There are days I will go to the gym in the evening and do a little extra. On some cardio days I will throw in a P90 plyo or cardio or yoga. They make a good adjunct to RF.
I will give one warning tor RF. If you have any type of knee problems be careful and modify where necessary.0 -
So my wife and I are 3 weeks away from finishing Rushfit. She has to watch her ankle due to a strain that is keeping her from running for 6 weeks so she is doing modifications with RushFit and walking. I am prepping for my second 1/2 marathon.
We have run the gamut of fitness videos, starting with the Jillian Michael 30 days, then going to P90X, Insanity, P90X+, Insanity again, P90X again, Insanity:Asylum, P90X2, Jillian Michaels 90 day one (name escapes me), and now Rushfit. We do Rushfit and on the cardio days, I run anywhere from 3-7 miles.
We were looking at Tapout, but it sounds like with the high intensity workouts, it might not be the best for my wife (recovering knee) or me (1/2 marathon).
It looks like we could modify Tapout, but are there any other DVD systems you would recommend to us? We did not like the J.M. 90 day one as it felt almost too basic until the final 2 weeks, so something upping (or keeping) the ante would be great.
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So my wife and I are 3 weeks away from finishing Rushfit. She has to watch her ankle due to a strain that is keeping her from running for 6 weeks so she is doing modifications with RushFit and walking. I am prepping for my second 1/2 marathon.
We have run the gamut of fitness videos, starting with the Jillian Michael 30 days, then going to P90X, Insanity, P90X+, Insanity again, P90X again, Insanity:Asylum, P90X2, Jillian Michaels 90 day one (name escapes me), and now Rushfit. We do Rushfit and on the cardio days, I run anywhere from 3-7 miles.
We were looking at Tapout, but it sounds like with the high intensity workouts, it might not be the best for my wife (recovering knee) or me (1/2 marathon).
It looks like we could modify Tapout, but are there any other DVD systems you would recommend to us? We did not like the J.M. 90 day one as it felt almost too basic until the final 2 weeks, so something upping (or keeping) the ante would be great.
Thanks!
A lot of the exercises in TapouT cannot be modified to suit a lower fitness level or someone with injuries they need to bear in mind.
I think that Rip:60 is an excellent choice for someone who needs to keep everything low impact provided you know and understand going into it that the person guiding you through the workouts is demonstrating improper form and you know proper form and to keep to it yourself. I wrote a review of it a while back and while I did give it mainly negative reviews I do think someone who understands how to do the exercises with proper form can adapt the program to themselves well enough to fix it.0 -
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I don't know if this has been asked yet because I gave up reading after page two lol. You know a lot and I need your help. You should go to school and get the degree dude, you're good at this and you come off as very trusty worthy. Maybe you should make a workout dvd program haha, I would buy it.
Ok, so you talk about not following the workout schedules that come with the Tapout XT program and to make our own. I have no clue how to mix and match workouts to suit my needs. I've completed many of the Beachbody programs and always followed their schedules and I am pretty anal and like to have my stuff planned out for me, but you make it sound like that's a waste of time and to do it out way and I just don't know how. I have no clue what muscles to work on one day, or lower body this day, upper body the next. I just want someone to write it all and and tell me how its done lol. So will I get decent results following their wall calender or do I have to try to figure out my own now? Which you might be doing for me since you started this mess :explode: Kidding
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XT is indeed fun. However, as a martial artist, really..... some of the moves in XT are simply ackward! For ex. Elbowing and punching with feet planted is simply hard to do, weird, wrong, and will possibly casue injury to the knees. There are many other ackward movements too. the workouts are long and challenging ..that's good!. Plyo: there's a considerable amount of banging on the joint from the high impact jumping etc.
Rushfit is taught by a BJJ Black Belt under Renzo Gracie. Between himself and GSP, expect ZERO ackward moves. He's not as high energy, so the "energy" coming from St. Pierre and Owings (the instuctor) is not as "Hey guys....Youuuuuuu can dooooo it"
eleastic bands w/ XT, and dumbells (10-15-25) w. Rushfit.
Just get both programs and use what you like, and toss out what u don't!0 -
I have been doing Tapout for a week almost and the damn trainer bugs me. I don't know why but something about him annoys me and the breathing, the noises hes makes lol. I am going to finish it though because I do like it, and then I will buy Rushfit. But I am totally stoked for the new Asylum Vol 2 on October 18th so that will be my next gig after Tapout and Les Mills Pump. I am doing them both right now. Tapout in the am and Les Mills in the pm.
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