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Crikey what country is that in?
So glad I'm in the UK, we may be backwards in a lot of things but our health care is free! thank god!0 -
See that's when I get irritated. You pay such good money for insurance. You should have access to that.It's really not that expensive if you are insured.
And my thoughts are, if insurance is going to cover happy wee wee pills, it should absolutley cover birth control.
all insurance varies...I have great medical coverage, but since I work for a Catholic medical group I have no coverage for any sort of birth control unless it is for a "medical reason". Even with that "medical reason" (irregular periods) it was still going to cost my $40 a month and my only option was the pill. My choice, was to go to planned parenthood where I could have options and pay based on my income.0 -
Ugh.
I pay for my insurance (in part) and my employer pays the other part.
I go to the pharmacy for a script. I pay a co-pay and the INSURANCE COMPANY picks up the rest.
After 9/1, I pay no copay and THE INSURANCE COMPANY picks up the rest.
The insurance company that I paid with my premiums (along with my employer's premiums)
Can you please explain to me where the everyday joe taxpayer comes in in all of this???0 -
Ugh.
I pay for my insurance (in part) and my employer pays the other part.
I go to the pharmacy for a script. I pay a co-pay and the INSURANCE COMPANY picks up the rest.
After 9/1, I pay no copay and THE INSURANCE COMPANY picks up the rest.
The insurance company that I paid with my premiums (along with my employer's premiums)
Can you please explain to me where the everyday joe taxpayer comes in in all of this???
If that was all, that would be one thing... but, you are looking at at least 100 billion dollars in deficit spending by 2018, this is money we don't have as a country. And we are running out of landmarks to sell to China. Who do you think, will have to pick up this bill, the political people who wrote the stupid law wont.0 -
If you think it's expensive now, wait until it's "free".....
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good point0 -
People are very fast to want others to take responsibility for their lives. What some do-gooders will never get is that when you reward people to act out, they act out more, then complain that they don't get enough government money.Whatever happened to people taking care of themselves? Or teaching children abstinence? Why do I or anyone else have to pay for someone's birth control pills?
Have you ever once met a grateful welfare bum?
Um, what about those who lose their jobs? Become disabled?
My family relied on government assistance for 2 years while my husband and I both retrained and got new jobs. That assistance saved my son's life, and kept my daughter healthy. It provided us with food, and we didn't lose our home (though we came damn close a few times). I'm intensely grateful that those programs were out there (and happy that we paid into them for a decade before our catastrophe). I'm happy to be paying into the again.
But, sir, I am no bum...and many people are one layoff decision away from needing the services you so despise. Have some compassion for your fellow humans.
You 110% do not meet the "welfare bum" requirements. You are what the system is SUPPOSED to do. However, the guy across the road that deeded land to his wife, hauled in a singlewide, and then "separated" with her, installed a mailbox, but still lives with his wife and is collecting welfare for both of them is more along the "welfare bum" definition.
Then he hauled in another singlewide, put in another mailbox, and his 18 year old son is doing the same thing. All of them live in one house, but they get the mail at each of their mailboxes every day. He was clever enough to take advantage of the three roads that he has frontage on - so none of them live on the same street as far as the state knows.
Even better - the state paid for his wife's infertility treatments. Then they had twins.
Another thing I'd rather see - us paying for birth control instead of us paying for someone to have kid #4 and #5 with IVF.
His tone was rather dismissive of anyone who'd ever received assistance. Also, the people that complain about people having more and more kids to increase their welfare checks apparently missed the reform of the Clinton years. You can get more food stamps, but not more cash. Besides...no one lives large off of food stamps/TANF/WIC. No one.
I agree in general. I live in a very poor county.
However, my neighbor that I mentioned previously has a newer mini-van under his wife's name (separated, but still living together while claiming they don't), has satellite TV, two four wheelers, a motorcycle, and lots of other toys.
Meanwhile, across the road, I have antenna TV, lust after four wheelers, but feed my kids and work hard. But there are people scamming the system. Sadly, with the kind of intelligence that it takes to scam the system, they probably could contribute a lot to society.
Again, I know this is not the norm, and I'm pro welfare programs.... but I just disagree with the "no one" statement. The man has four houses, for cryin' out loud!0 -
How does birth control always get turned into a gender issue? Such a double standard--didn't America go through this crap 40 years ago?0
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Depends upon how you define free. If you mean everyone else who pays taxes is paying for it so you don't have to, and you have the right coverage, then yeah I guess it's "free".
I would glady pay taxes on this, because then there wouldn't be children pregnant with children.
And there also wouldn't be people on welfare with 9 kids at walmart getting everything for free without having a job, just because they have 9 kids because they didn't feel like taking birth control or they couldn't afford it.
Planned Parenthood has been passing out free birth control pills for decades now. Guess that didn't actually result in the outcome you thought, huh?
Again, this is a myth. You can't just go get free pills at Planned Parenthood. Interesting that so many people believe this, though.0 -
Well, I don't either. I do see a problem with them doing it without any access to contraception, though.
Good look policing your kids 24/7 and in school where you can't see them. I don't get why teens having sex makes them animals. Does it make adults animals too?I would glady pay taxes on this, because then there wouldn't be children pregnant with children.
And there also wouldn't be people on welfare with 9 kids at walmart getting everything for free without having a job, just because they have 9 kids because they didn't feel like taking birth control or they couldn't afford it.
Doubtful. You'd have to force everyone to take it. Parents (like myself) will not allow their children to behave like animals. My kids are quite aware that any behavior that does not meet dad's approval would likely result in someone walking around looking like a unicorn for the rest of their life since that's where I'm going to relocate it. I've got to brag that I've got some damn smart kids.
What we will likely see is a widespread increase in STD infections because a lot of those who had been exercising self-control due to not being "protected" will now be happily engaged in sexual activity naively thinking that their partners are all healthy and they wont get pregnant.
Seriously?? You don't see a problem with teens having sex? Wow0 -
Seriously?? You don't see a problem with teens having sex? Wow
I don't see a problem with teens having sex assuming that they are protecting themselves from STDs and pregnancy.0 -
isn't that the truth!If you think it's expensive now, wait until it's "free".....
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If you're ugly like me you don't have to worry about illegitimate sex because you can't get any! Abstinence is the best birth control.0
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What we will likely see is a widespread increase in STD infections because a lot of those who had been exercising self-control due to not being "protected" will now be happily engaged in sexual activity naively thinking that their partners are all healthy and they wont get pregnant.
^^This I agree 100%0 -
And ugliness.....except on Double Shot night down at the Silver Zipper....If you're ugly like me you don't have to worry about illegitimate sex because you can't get any! Abstinence is the best birth control.0 -
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People are very fast to want others to take responsibility for their lives. What some do-gooders will never get is that when you reward people to act out, they act out more, then complain that they don't get enough government money.Whatever happened to people taking care of themselves? Or teaching children abstinence? Why do I or anyone else have to pay for someone's birth control pills?
Have you ever once met a grateful welfare bum?
Um, what about those who lose their jobs? Become disabled?
My family relied on government assistance for 2 years while my husband and I both retrained and got new jobs. That assistance saved my son's life, and kept my daughter healthy. It provided us with food, and we didn't lose our home (though we came damn close a few times). I'm intensely grateful that those programs were out there (and happy that we paid into them for a decade before our catastrophe). I'm happy to be paying into the again.
But, sir, I am no bum...and many people are one layoff decision away from needing the services you so despise. Have some compassion for your fellow humans.
You 110% do not meet the "welfare bum" requirements. You are what the system is SUPPOSED to do. However, the guy across the road that deeded land to his wife, hauled in a singlewide, and then "separated" with her, installed a mailbox, but still lives with his wife and is collecting welfare for both of them is more along the "welfare bum" definition.
Then he hauled in another singlewide, put in another mailbox, and his 18 year old son is doing the same thing. All of them live in one house, but they get the mail at each of their mailboxes every day. He was clever enough to take advantage of the three roads that he has frontage on - so none of them live on the same street as far as the state knows.
Even better - the state paid for his wife's infertility treatments. Then they had twins.
Another thing I'd rather see - us paying for birth control instead of us paying for someone to have kid #4 and #5 with IVF.
THIS
I don't mind helping anybody who is trying to get their act together.
But you know very well there are some lazy welfare bums out there.0 -
I agree. Forty-something and just had an endometrial ablation (burning the uterus). I was on BC for sixteen years! Unfortunately, we Americans don't like to be told to watch what we eat, exercise, and get adequate amounts of sleep.0
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Whatever happened to people taking care of themselves? Or teaching children abstinence? Why do I or anyone else have to pay for someone's birth control pills?
God I love pretty smart girls.0 -
BC is covered by insurance too, but apparently covered isnt good enough, free is necessary.
Viagra is already covered by health insurance. Because apparently men are allowed to have sex, but not women who don't want children, acne, or irregular/heavy periods.What good is free BC without free Viagra?
Btw, it was a comical sarcastic quip not a debating point. Sorry you missed that.
Birth control is not covered by my insurance and is not covered by very many plans. ED is treated like a disease, PMS and prevention of pregnancy is not. I think that part of the debate.0 -
Whatever happened to people taking care of themselves? Or teaching children abstinence? Why do I or anyone else have to pay for someone's birth control pills?
Because pills are cheaper. If not, you're going to be paying for their baby's food, diapers, medical bills etc.0
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