Frustrated With Outside Opinions
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I think some people, particularly family & friends, just want to share in your journey and so offer whatever (usually bogus) advice they happen to know. Also after I lost 40 lbs on my own, I had a friend enthusiastically suggest, "Oh, you should try having some vinegar and honey every morning!" You could tell she just liked the idea that she might be helping. I just smiled and said, "Oh yeah? Huh..." But sometimes people may unconsciously feel the need to shoot down what your doing, because if it were that simple, they would then have no excuse for themselves.7
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Carlos_421 wrote: »Sounds like half the threads here on MFP...
Yep.2 -
Even though their advice is unsolicited, they're just looking out for you and trying to help0
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BrooklynApple88 wrote: »So, today I walked into my relative's home and someone asked me what I ate today. I said, "Pizza." So then I had to hear a whole speech about how I need to stay away from pizza because it's so fattening and greasy. Then I also had to hear about green juices, vegetable soup, and making homemade potato chips to "cut all the grease and fat out."
I said, " Trust me, I'm doing fine. I made sure I had enough calories to enjoy a greasy slice of pizza." Then they went on about how I need to cut pizza out completely and eat fruits and vegetables. I need to drink this type of milk, cut out this, add this, this vegetable is good for the blood, no Chinese food, eat fast food once a month, blah, blah. I'm so annoyed. People are really uneducated about what it takes to lose weight. I loathe the restrictive attitude. If I ate like what they suggested, then I'd end up bored and unsuccessful. They noticed the 45 pounds I've lost in 8 months, but still give their unsolicited advice. Sigh. They just don't get it.
Blah. It's none of their business. Tell them so in the words you are comfortable using.4 -
BrooklynApple88 wrote: »They noticed the 45 pounds I've lost in 8 months, but still give their unsolicited advice. Sigh. They just don't get it.
First of all, congratulations on your success! You know what works for you so keep it up, no matter what others think.
I have one friend like that. Basically, we finally agreed to disagree and stay off the subject after several arguments. I make a point of congratulating her when she completes things like tough mudders and half marathons and she congratulates me each time I start buying a smaller size. Staying off the subject or finding common ground is the only way to handle zealots.
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The only opinion that matters is yours.
I'm the type of person that I get tired of crap like that so I'm liable to say something and it probably will not come out all nice and polite.
Also, my reply to "what did you eat today?" would have been "Food." and the subject gets changed. What I eat or don't eat is no one's business and is not up for a debate. I also don't have the patience for it.1 -
WifiresGettingFit wrote: »The only opinion that matters is yours.
I'm the type of person that I get tired of crap like that so I'm liable to say something and it probably will not come out all nice and polite.
Also, my reply to "what did you eat today?" would have been "Food." and the subject gets changed. What I eat or don't eat is no one's business and is not up for a debate. I also don't have the patience for it.
I'm the type of person who likes to divert if I am speaking to someone I know is a zealot. My answer to that question would have been "a meat and veggie pie".0 -
Here is a tip that I used to be a successful married guy (25 years)...
Pretend your listening and think about anything else, nod appropriately say thank you.
What your doing is obviously working and they are speaking from a position of ignorance.3 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »"I see that what you're doing is succeeding. Let me tell you why it's wrong and you should do it some other way."
Honestly, I'd only go down the "education" route if people are genuinely interested. If they're just lecturing you and it's getting up your nose, try and change the subject.
If people haven't been successful with weight loss, what makes them think they are qualified to give you advice???Someone had the nerve to tell me that I should stop losing weight. They said they observed the way I eat, then proceed to tell me how I should eat. BTW, it was a guy and he looked about 6 months pregnant.
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jennifer_417 wrote: »This is the exact reason I never really talked about what I was doing to lose weight. Errbody got an opinion. I figured I'd let my results speak for themselves. But I realize that there are times when it's unavoidable, and those times I just nod and smile, and make noncommittal noises.
Yep, this.
I don't think I know anyone who would ask me what I ate and then say judgy things about it, but if I did I'd probably start asking them why they were so interested in what I ate or say "just food" or some such.0 -
BrooklynApple88 wrote: »So, today I walked into my relative's home and someone asked me what I ate today. I said, "Pizza." So then I had to hear a whole speech about how I need to stay away from pizza because it's so fattening and greasy. Then I also had to hear about green juices, vegetable soup, and making homemade potato chips to "cut all the grease and fat out."
I said, " Trust me, I'm doing fine. I made sure I had enough calories to enjoy a greasy slice of pizza." Then they went on about how I need to cut pizza out completely and eat fruits and vegetables. I need to drink this type of milk, cut out this, add this, this vegetable is good for the blood, no Chinese food, eat fast food once a month, blah, blah. I'm so annoyed. People are really uneducated about what it takes to lose weight. I loathe the restrictive attitude. If I ate like what they suggested, then I'd end up bored and unsuccessful. They noticed the 45 pounds I've lost in 8 months, but still give their unsolicited advice. Sigh. They just don't get it.
i get your point...everybody knows better. it happens all the time. deep down they think they are helping. just keep doing what you are doing....and say thank you to the advice givers ;-)0 -
My dad says the same thing when I tell him I've eaten bacon "Kaitlin! That's so high in fat! You won't lose weight if you eat too much fat." K dad. I just say "thanks for the advice!" It's hard to be rude in those situations because the advice is well-meaning & sometimes it's hard not to second guess yourself, but just stick with what you're doing.... The best is when you can say "I've lost weight & didn't give up pizza!"4
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jennifer_417 wrote: »This is the exact reason I never really talked about what I was doing to lose weight. Errbody got an opinion. I figured I'd let my results speak for themselves. But I realize that there are times when it's unavoidable, and those times I just nod and smile, and make noncommittal noises.
*chuckling at keyboard* @ "make noncommittal noises. It's so true.
People like that don't want to be educated about weight loss, or anything. They just want to hear themselves talk. Best not to engage, OP.5 -
There are two kinds of people:
1. The ones that think that because the media says so. These are the ones that you can have a conversation with and kindly let them know it's not so hard as to have to cut out pizza and instead have kale juice for dinner
2. The ones that need an excuse. These are the ones you cannot have a conversation with because they will adamantly claim that food is evil and we must go to extreme measures to be healthy. Because there's no way that one could be a healthy weight by eating normal food. Because then it would be their own fault that they are or were overweight. And we humans have no faults. So, by default, it must be that food is to blame, and we have to work hard in order to achieve a good, healthy state of being.
They strike me as the latter. So, the convo would have gone something like this:
"Mm ... Uh-huh ... Yeah .... Ohhh ... Wow ... Hmm ... Well I've lost 45 pounds eating the exact opposite of what you said, with half that effort, aaaaand I enjoy what I eat. So I'll continue to do that. But, uh, you go ahead and continue with *waves hand dramatically around kitchen* alllll this. It seems to be working sooo well for you". *Drops mic* *tosses hair* *strides out of kitchen like a boss*
lol don't let it bug you too much. You are doing amazing, so just keep doing what you're doing, and let them make things way too hard. Congrats on your loss so far!17 -
WifiresGettingFit wrote: »The only opinion that matters is yours.
I'm the type of person that I get tired of crap like that so I'm liable to say something and it probably will not come out all nice and polite.
Also, my reply to "what did you eat today?" would have been "Food." and the subject gets changed. What I eat or don't eat is no one's business and is not up for a debate. I also don't have the patience for it.
I'm that type of person too! Some times when people kept trying to give me unsolicited advice and suggest many things, I'd let them speak and say what I had to say. They often disagreed and I would just end it by saying, "what I'm doing is working just fine. Let's move on."
A few occasions, I had to physically leave the room because they would get so defensive about their weird fad diet and I didn't want to say "rude" things.
Edit: I lost 70 lbs by this time last year. I'm maintaining and in great shape. I'll keep doing what I've been doing!4 -
When people think it's okay to rudely stick their noses in my business and try to tell me how to run my life, I think it's equally okay for me to rudely tell them to pound sand up their *kitten* and mind their own business in return. Fair is fair.
an ex taught me the "pound sand" expression. It was the best thing to come out of that relationship. I say it (or think it at people) all the time. Unsolicited advice regarding my life often gets leads to a "pound sand" comment.
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WifiresGettingFit wrote: »The only opinion that matters is yours.
I'm the type of person that I get tired of crap like that so I'm liable to say something and it probably will not come out all nice and polite.
Also, my reply to "what did you eat today?" would have been "Food." and the subject gets changed. What I eat or don't eat is no one's business and is not up for a debate. I also don't have the patience for it.
"Food." Perfect. My mom would answer with noncommittal things to questions. That sounds like something she would say.
For instance when I was a kid if I asked her, "Where are you going?" She would reply with, "Going crazy." Lol.0 -
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Heh. "You wanna know what I ate, join MyFitnessPal, friend me, and you can see my diary and maybe learn some good eating tips, too."7
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healthykaitlin wrote: »My dad says the same thing when I tell him I've eaten bacon "Kaitlin! That's so high in fat! You won't lose weight if you eat too much fat." K dad. I just say "thanks for the advice!" It's hard to be rude in those situations because the advice is well-meaning & sometimes it's hard not to second guess yourself, but just stick with what you're doing.... The best is when you can say "I've lost weight & didn't give up pizza!"
This is such a great way to address the situation! Sometimes saying "none of your business" is easier said than done, and it can be a little rude if you're talking to family or friends who might honestly be trying to help. There are ways to divert those kinds of questions in a more polite way (like the above).
I wish I could say I've never lied about what I eat but with certain people I do, like my mom. She's definitely of the mindset that I "can't" eat all sorts of things, but I also understand her viewpoint because she knows how many times I've failed as losing weight. So when she asks what I had for dinner, I might say "Chicken and veggies" when the actual answer is "BBQ chicken pizza." It just prevents any judgmental comments and awkwardness/ hurt feelings/ arguments as a result.
With most people I just say "Different things work for different people. For me, moderating works better than restricting and banning." Plus phrasing it that way, idk, I guess maybe it sounds like a more well-informed comment than "I can eat whatever I want!" If I use words like "moderation" and "restriction" people seem to have less comments afterwards than if I say something that's more defensive or if I totally blow them off.3
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