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Adrenal Fatigue?

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  • Michellelynn219
    Michellelynn219 Posts: 62 Member
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    She is a MD. I was just reading up on Adrenals. I must have Adrenal Insufficiency not Fatigue. Now I will have to ask her at my next appointment.
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
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    I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.

    Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.

    Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's. :)

    Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
    My doctor advised me.

    I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.

    How did you come to believe that your medical specialist in this area had "no knowledge?" That's a rather curious statement to make, unless you hold an MD in Endocrinology as well.
  • johnwelk
    johnwelk Posts: 396 Member
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    I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.

    Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.

    Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's. :)

    Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
    My doctor advised me.

    I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.

    You didn't fire your doctor as your are not his boss, you don't sign his paycheck and you don't cover his insurance. He didn't work for you.

    And I'm pretty sure he has way more knowledge than you can ever imagine. Were you annoyed that he didn't diagnose you with a fake disease?
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
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    She is a MD. I was just reading up on Adrenals. I must have Adrenal Insufficiency not Fatigue. Now I will have to ask her at my next appointment.

    Thank you for clarifying. Didn't mean to be pushy but a lot of people talk about their doctors and it turns out they are naturopaths who took a 6 week online course.

    Never hurts to clarify both a diagnosis and treatment. My doctor (APNP who is a Certified Diabetic Specialist) is very patient with my questions.
  • johnwelk
    johnwelk Posts: 396 Member
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    Fuzzipeg wrote: »
    The glands in the endocrine system communicate with each other in feed back loops. If there is insufficiency in the pituitary and or the adrenals these will drain the thyroid. Medical free access papers.

    No. Completely wrong. Post these papers.
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    edited March 2017
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    I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.

    Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.

    Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's. :)

    Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
    My doctor advised me.

    Is this a medical doctor? Who had you doing the saliva testing?

    Primary who is a specialist in Thyroid disease. I found my doctor through Mary Shomon Author of Stop the Thyroid Madness.

    Mary Shomon is not a doctor. She only holds a BSc. degree. Yet she's going around recommending medical doctors to people? Something doesn't add up there. :(

    Edited to add: And for clarity, Mary Shomon did not author " Stop the Thyroid Madness," either.
  • Michellelynn219
    Michellelynn219 Posts: 62 Member
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    I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.

    Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.

    Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's. :)

    Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
    My doctor advised me.

    I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.

    How did you come to believe that your medical specialist in this area had "no knowledge?" That's a rather curious statement to make, unless you hold an MD in Endocrinology as well.

    He was in and out of the appointment so fast. He spent no time with me. I was with him for 10 years. I had to ask him to check my vitamin d levels and they were low, 15 to be exact. I had to ask him to do any testing outside of the normal panel. He was always upping my meds then lowering them. I was on a roller coaster. Best thing I ever did was getting rid of him.
  • Michellelynn219
    Michellelynn219 Posts: 62 Member
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    Why the attitude towards me? Just curious. I'm done
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
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    I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.

    Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.

    Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's. :)

    Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
    My doctor advised me.

    I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.

    How did you come to believe that your medical specialist in this area had "no knowledge?" That's a rather curious statement to make, unless you hold an MD in Endocrinology as well.

    He was in and out of the appointment so fast. He spent no time with me. I was with him for 10 years. I had to ask him to check my vitamin d levels and they were low, 15 to be exact. I had to ask him to do any testing outside of the normal panel. He was always upping my meds then lowering them. I was on a roller coaster. Best thing I ever did was getting rid of him.

    Since varying levels of thyroid function is the very hallmark of Hashimoto's, it is entirely appropriate for your medication levels to have to be adjusted accordingly.
  • Michellelynn219
    Michellelynn219 Posts: 62 Member
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    johnwelk wrote: »
    I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.

    Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.

    Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's. :)

    Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
    My doctor advised me.

    I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.

    You didn't fire your doctor as your are not his boss, you don't sign his paycheck and you don't cover his insurance. He didn't work for you. I sure did fire him. I pay him when I pay my bill.

    And I'm pretty sure he has way more knowledge than you can ever imagine. Were you annoyed that he didn't diagnose you with a fake disease?
    I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease. What are you talking about?

  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
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    Why the attitude towards me? Just curious. I'm done

    Not seeing any 'attitude,' just people trying to understand your situation and reasoning.
  • Michellelynn219
    Michellelynn219 Posts: 62 Member
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    I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.

    Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.

    Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's. :)

    Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
    My doctor advised me.

    Is this a medical doctor? Who had you doing the saliva testing?

    Primary who is a specialist in Thyroid disease. I found my doctor through Mary Shomon Author of Stop the Thyroid Madness.

    Mary Shomon is not a doctor. She only holds a BSc. degree. Yet she's going around recommending medical doctors to people? Something doesn't add up there. :(

    http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/index.htm Happy NOW?
  • Michellelynn219
    Michellelynn219 Posts: 62 Member
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    I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.

    Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.

    Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's. :)

    Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
    My doctor advised me.

    I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.

    How did you come to believe that your medical specialist in this area had "no knowledge?" That's a rather curious statement to make, unless you hold an MD in Endocrinology as well.

    He was in and out of the appointment so fast. He spent no time with me. I was with him for 10 years. I had to ask him to check my vitamin d levels and they were low, 15 to be exact. I had to ask him to do any testing outside of the normal panel. He was always upping my meds then lowering them. I was on a roller coaster. Best thing I ever did was getting rid of him.

    Since varying levels of thyroid function is the very hallmark of Hashimoto's, it is entirely appropriate for your medication levels to have to be adjusted accordingly.

    Not when he takes you up and down and puts you into SVT. I am now regulated going very slowly up not up and down. Never felt better :)
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
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    I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.

    Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.

    Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's. :)

    Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
    My doctor advised me.

    Is this a medical doctor? Who had you doing the saliva testing?

    Primary who is a specialist in Thyroid disease. I found my doctor through Mary Shomon Author of Stop the Thyroid Madness.

    Mary Shomon is not a doctor. She only holds a BSc. degree. Yet she's going around recommending medical doctors to people? Something doesn't add up there. :(

    http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/index.htm Happy NOW?

    Well, I wasn't unhappy to begin with. ;)

    But that site tells me everything I need to know. Mary Shomon is not a doctor, and holds no qualifications to be publishing the myriad of self-help books that she promotes and is obviously profiting from.

    I'll stick with proven science and my accredited Endo. :)

  • Michellelynn219
    Michellelynn219 Posts: 62 Member
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    If it wasn't for this list of doctors I would still be feeling horrible and not being treated properly for my disease. Compound medication gave me my life back. l am glad you were not unhappy :)
  • johnwelk
    johnwelk Posts: 396 Member
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    johnwelk wrote: »
    I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.

    Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.

    Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's. :)

    Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
    My doctor advised me.

    I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.

    You didn't fire your doctor as your are not his boss, you don't sign his paycheck and you don't cover his insurance. He didn't work for you. I sure did fire him. I pay him when I pay my bill.

    And I'm pretty sure he has way more knowledge than you can ever imagine. Were you annoyed that he didn't diagnose you with a fake disease?
    I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease. What are you talking about?

    I was responding to part I bolded.
  • Michellelynn219
    Michellelynn219 Posts: 62 Member
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    johnwelk wrote: »
    johnwelk wrote: »
    I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.

    Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.

    Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's. :)

    Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
    My doctor advised me.

    I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.

    You didn't fire your doctor as your are not his boss, you don't sign his paycheck and you don't cover his insurance. He didn't work for you. I sure did fire him. I pay him when I pay my bill.

    And I'm pretty sure he has way more knowledge than you can ever imagine. Were you annoyed that he didn't diagnose you with a fake disease?
    I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease. What are you talking about?

    I was responding to part I bolded.

    I didn't even know about adrenal fatigue or insufficiency until I changed doctors. My new doctor did a full hormone and blood panel on me. I don't think i have Adrenal fatigue. I am pretty sure it's adrenal insufficiency. I corrected myself in one of my comments.
  • Fuzzipeg
    Fuzzipeg Posts: 2,298 Member
    edited March 2017
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    I make this entry as a typist not someone who is able to do all the "add links and stuff you kids do". I'm not far off 70. If it matter so much that you achieve the right information for you to understand the predicament of those who have their lives compromised by poor adrenal, thyroid, pituitary function and insist it is all a figment of our imaginations, please because I can't, don't have the ability to show you, so a search for yourselves,

    topic, thyroid, pituitary, adrenal axis. this will present you with more information than you can wade through in an evening. Most information comes out of the US but still most of your doctors do not use it.

    You have to live with the issues to know you have to do much of the research work yourself. A professor of immunology put me on the road to recovery unfortunately I was not able to get back to see him because of the ignorance and blinkered view of the local endo, do it by the UK, NICE guidelines which do not recognise anything other than t4 deficiency and do not permit proper investigations when what he can do is borderline. Makes it a "more than my jobs worth" situation. Correct the endocrine balance, eliminate inflammation, replace digestive microbes and enzymes and you may just get somewhere.

    eta, so should read do,

    Also, my dentist could tell me more about my thyroid condition and that was by looking at my teeth! The shape of my bite line etc!! how's that?
  • johnwelk
    johnwelk Posts: 396 Member
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    Fuzzipeg wrote: »
    I make this entry as a typist not someone who is able to do all the "add links and stuff you kids do". I'm not far off 70. If it matter so much that you achieve the right information for you to understand the predicament of those who have their lives compromised by poor adrenal, thyroid, pituitary function and insist it is all a figment of our imaginations, please because I can't, don't have the ability to show you, so a search for yourselves,

    topic, thyroid, pituitary, adrenal axis. this will present you with more information than you can wade through in an evening. Most information comes out of the US but still most of your doctors do not use it.

    You have to live with the issues to know you have to do much of the research work yourself. A professor of immunology put me on the road to recovery unfortunately I was not able to get back to see him because of the ignorance and blinkered view of the local endo, do it by the UK, NICE guidelines which do not recognise anything other than t4 deficiency and do not permit proper investigations when what he can do is borderline. Makes it a "more than my jobs worth" situation. Correct the endocrine balance, eliminate inflammation, replace digestive microbes and enzymes and you may just get somewhere.

    eta, so should read do,

    Also, my dentist could tell me more about my thyroid condition and that was by looking at my teeth! The shape of my bite line etc!! how's that?

    Again, complete nonsense. Support your claims with evidence. It's not my job to prove your misinformation. That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
  • comptonelizabeth
    comptonelizabeth Posts: 1,701 Member
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    johnwelk wrote: »
    johnwelk wrote: »
    I did saliva testing to find out if I had adrenal fatigue. I take a low dose of DHEA. I also have Hasmoto's.

    Since adrenal fatigue is not a diagnosable condition, (yes, many less-than-reputable labs will profit for 'finding' it) it appears you may have been taken advantage of.

    Hashimoto's, btw, has many symptoms that are identical to adrenal fatigue. I know this, because I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's by an endocrinologist and have been taking medication for years now. I surmise that your adrenal fatigue symptoms are more likely tied into your Hashi's. :)

    Edited to add: Who advised you to take DHEA?
    My doctor advised me.

    I was dx with Hashi's 12 years ago. I am on Compound T3/T4 meds. I fired my endo, he had no knowledge. I love my new doctor, she has Hashi's as well. Anyway, back to Adrenals...One of my main issues was broken sleep. Since I started taking DHEA, I have my sleep signal back, ie, yawning, and I sleep through the night. I was trying to find my test results but I can't. I did the hormone testing 2 years ago.

    You didn't fire your doctor as your are not his boss, you don't sign his paycheck and you don't cover his insurance. He didn't work for you. I sure did fire him. I pay him when I pay my bill.

    And I'm pretty sure he has way more knowledge than you can ever imagine. Were you annoyed that he didn't diagnose you with a fake disease?
    I have Hashimoto's thyroid disease. What are you talking about?

    I was responding to part I bolded.

    I didn't even know about adrenal fatigue or insufficiency until I changed doctors. My new doctor did a full hormone and blood panel on me. I don't think i have Adrenal fatigue. I am pretty sure it's adrenal insufficiency. I corrected myself in one of my comments.

    Apologies if you've already explained this. Have you actually been tested for adrenal insufficiency? It's a potentially serious condition.