True or False? A Calorie is a Calorie is a Calorie.
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tracylbrown839 wrote: »Rather than yet another conversation about diet styles and Paleo, how about what the op asked about.... is a calorie always a calorie. Yes, a calorie is a unit of measurement.
How different food types, cooking styles, and "how" the body processes food, however, is far, far more complex. People would like really simple answers but it's really not quite so simple as everyone would like to believe. Your body is a very, very complex living organism and many complex chemical reactions take place to turn food into the fuel that your body uses.
Here is an article about why a "calorie counts are wrong". Video and article below.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/video/why-calorie-counts-are-wrong2013-08-20/
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/science-reveals-why-calorie-counts-are-all-wrong/
It doesn't matter if the counts are "wrong". It's an arbitrary scale. If you count up your calories and are losing at a specific rate, you can use that method or adjust at will.
It's trial and error. I could substitute calories for widgets and decide a 100 g potato is 1 widget of energy. If I stop losing, I'll just cut back my intake to a few less widgets per day until I'm losing at the rate I want...0 -
Yes, a calorie is a calorie..but...the source of our calories are very different, and it matters greatly. For mere weight loss, eat whatever but have a slight deficit. For weight loss and optimal health, you need to give attention to the source of your calories.
A simple example:
A bowl of white sugar = 400 calories
A bowl of grapes and a salad with olive oil and lemon juice = 400 calories
The energy is the same, but the nutrition is different.
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Why are we still talking about this? I already answered the question.
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I've lost 30 pounds in 77 days on paleo. Sure, I could have lost it any other way, but the point is I wasn't miserable. So, no, a calorie is not a calorie unless you enjoy agonizing over everything you put in your mouth and feeling deprived which is what OP is asking. I feel bad for all of you defending your crackers and tortillas but go ahead and eat what you want, it's not like that's what made you overweight in the first place.0
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Um not at all. I'm a high carb low fat vegan (no animal products at all) and I'm down 16 pounds in 6 weeks eating 2500-3000 calories a day.
NOT all calories are equal. Fat calories are the worst you can eat. A diet high in milk and mean is the worst you could possibly have.0 -
MissyLaRae wrote: »Um not at all. I'm a high carb low fat vegan (no animal products at all) and I'm down 16 pounds in 6 weeks eating 2500-3000 calories a day.
NOT all calories are equal. Fat calories are the worst you can eat. A diet high in milk and mean is the worst you could possibly have.
If you are going to make outrageous claims, please post scientific evidence to back them up.
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MissyLaRae wrote: »Um not at all. I'm a high carb low fat vegan (no animal products at all) and I'm down 16 pounds in 6 weeks eating 2500-3000 calories a day.
NOT all calories are equal. Fat calories are the worst you can eat. A diet high in milk and mean is the worst you could possibly have.
If you are going to make outrageous claims, please post scientific evidence to back them up.
^^This
And by saying you're losing at 2500-3000 calories a day, are you claiming that you're losing in a surplus, or just letting us know you have a TDEE over 3000 calories?
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I eat 2450 calories or more a day of whatever the heck I want and have lost weight, can lift more and run farther then I ever have in my life, and feel healthy, full and satisfied. And I have the blood work numbers to back my feelings so it's not just placebo. Oh and I consume a certified *isht*-ton of milk and meat.0
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katharineshalia wrote: »I've lost 30 pounds in 77 days on paleo. Sure, I could have lost it any other way, but the point is I wasn't miserable. So, no, a calorie is not a calorie unless you enjoy agonizing over everything you put in your mouth and feeling deprived which is what OP is asking. I feel bad for all of you defending your crackers and tortillas but go ahead and eat what you want, it's not like that's what made you overweight in the first place.
That's a whole lotta projection for one post.
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katharineshalia wrote: »I've lost 30 pounds in 77 days on paleo. Sure, I could have lost it any other way, but the point is I wasn't miserable. So, no, a calorie is not a calorie unless you enjoy agonizing over everything you put in your mouth and feeling deprived which is what OP is asking. I feel bad for all of you defending your crackers and tortillas but go ahead and eat what you want, it's not like that's what made you overweight in the first place.
You lost by calorie deficit. What are you not understanding?
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katharineshalia wrote: »I've lost 30 pounds in 77 days on paleo. Sure, I could have lost it any other way, but the point is I wasn't miserable. So, no, a calorie is not a calorie unless you enjoy agonizing over everything you put in your mouth and feeling deprived which is what OP is asking. I feel bad for all of you defending your crackers and tortillas but go ahead and eat what you want, it's not like that's what made you overweight in the first place.
Well, I've been eating crackers and tortillas my whole life (and also bread and pasta) and I've never had 30 pounds to lose...so....yeah. Not everyone on here is/was overweight.
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katharineshalia wrote: »I've lost 30 pounds in 77 days on paleo. Sure, I could have lost it any other way, but the point is I wasn't miserable. So, no, a calorie is not a calorie unless you enjoy agonizing over everything you put in your mouth and feeling deprived which is what OP is asking. I feel bad for all of you defending your crackers and tortillas but go ahead and eat what you want, it's not like that's what made you overweight in the first place.
Well, I've been eating crackers and tortillas my whole life (and also bread and pasta) and I've never had 30 pounds to lose...so....yeah. Not everyone on here is/was overweight.
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MissyLaRae wrote: »Um not at all. I'm a high carb low fat vegan (no animal products at all) and I'm down 16 pounds in 6 weeks eating 2500-3000 calories a day.
NOT all calories are equal. Fat calories are the worst you can eat. A diet high in milk and mean is the worst you could possibly have.
If you are going to make outrageous claims, please post scientific evidence to back them up.
There is a ton of scientific data to back up a nutritious plant based diet. Meat & Dairy is not healthy. It's not an outrageous claim and no I'm not going to do your research for you. I've invested years into finding the right lifestyle that works for me and done a lot of research into diet myself.
I personally eat 2500-3000 calories every single day for the past 6 weeks and my weight loss is currently at 16 pounds. I have a sedentary lifestyle as an author and walk 20 minutes a day weather permitting. So with little to no exercise I am losing weight. That isn't to say it's right for you, but if I was eating 2500-3000 calories of fat from animal products I most likely would be gaining weight, according to MFP I should be.-1 -
@Paige, have you had 4 kids and are you over 40? It's easy being young, enjoy it while you can.-1
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MissyLaRae wrote: »MissyLaRae wrote: »Um not at all. I'm a high carb low fat vegan (no animal products at all) and I'm down 16 pounds in 6 weeks eating 2500-3000 calories a day.
NOT all calories are equal. Fat calories are the worst you can eat. A diet high in milk and mean is the worst you could possibly have.
If you are going to make outrageous claims, please post scientific evidence to back them up.
There is a ton of scientific data to back up a nutritious plant based diet. Meat & Dairy is not healthy. It's not an outrageous claim and no I'm not going to do your research for you. I've invested years into finding the right lifestyle that works for me and done a lot of research into diet myself.
I personally eat 2500-3000 calories every single day for the past 6 weeks and my weight loss is currently at 16 pounds. I have a sedentary lifestyle as an author and walk 20 minutes a day weather permitting. So with little to no exercise I am losing weight. That isn't to say it's right for you, but if I was eating 2500-3000 calories of fat from animal products I most likely would be gaining weight, according to MFP I should be.
Please post scientific data that says fat calories are the "worst" and milk and meat are bad for you.
ETA: Please also post a study (not an anecdote) that shows us that 2500-3000 calories a day of a plant based diet makes you lose more weight than 2500-3000 calories of a diet that contains milk, meat and fat. I'd love to see it.
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