Eating far below BMR and not losing weight
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geniusgamer wrote: »And yeah, you aren't likely.
Yikes. This is getting frustrating. More rude people here than I thought.
I am counting accurately. I go by nutrition labels. And there is zero eating that isn't logged off those nutrition labels.
It would be super helpful if people could just assume I wasn't an idiot or lying.
I'm not making some distinction between mass and volume, though for a given food they are directly proportional. So your statement "per gram, not per cup or spoonful" is actually wrong.
I'm doing it per serving listed on nutrition labels.
The thing with nutrition labels? they are not accurate either though... perfect example, my bread shows a serving as 53g 1 slice. I weigh my bread... I have yet to get a slice that weighs the 53g the nutrition label says it should be. I mean, the heel of the bread will never weigh the same as the slice in the middle....
Chips? 50 g is a serving (or 29 chips). Guess what, I have never had 29 chips equal to the 50g serving size. As a matter of fact, I can't even eat a full 50g of chip with a meal.
Turtle chocolate, states 3 pieces is 50g - the 3 I had last night actually DID equal 50g... but the ones I ate a few weeks ago? Nope.. they totally 67g....
If you don't weigh all your food with a SCALE - then you are not properly logging what you eat. you can't rely on the labels... they aren't accurate....
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btw Genius , how are you handling your daily exercise? Did you mark yourself as "Sedentary" or "Active" or what ? For me, I am marked as "Sedentary" and then I earn back the calories I burned working out, so even though my daily goal is 1720, I really eat like 2200 per day and still hit my NET calorie goal....0
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Very large deficit slows down metabolism.0
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Do you weigh everything you eat using a food scale? If not, you're most likely eating more than you think, which is why you could have been eating over 3000 calories without realizing it.
No. I eat diet meals smartones/leancuisines/healthychoice/etc.
They have a nutrition label that says exactly what the total calories for the whole meal is. So that's what I log.
Why would I need to weigh it? I'm not preparing my own food.
In the past during my huge weight loss, I would prepare some food, and in those situations I absolutely would weigh it.[/quote]0 -
And not to be mean, OP, but if you DO try to lose this way and "maintain" it as you describe, you are going to wreck havoc on your body and organs, your body cannot handle that kind of treatment. Save yourself a lot of money in medical treatment later and listen to what these people are telling you. Up the calories some, lose weight safely.0
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tracymayo1 wrote: »If you don't weigh all your food with a SCALE - then you are not properly logging what you eat. you can't rely on the labels... they aren't accurate....
This isn't relevant to me because I'm not preparing my own food at all. If I was I'd weigh it.
I'm eating prepackaged diet meals with caloric listings on their nutrition labels.0 -
1000 calories...a day?
This thread gives me the sadz.....and is also turning into a "please help.....no you're wrong I'm doing it right" thread.0 -
joelschneider45066 wrote: »btw Genius , how are you handling your daily exercise? Did you mark yourself as "Sedentary" or "Active" or what ? For me, I am marked as "Sedentary" and then I earn back the calories I burned working out, so even though my daily goal is 1720, I really eat like 2200 per day and still hit my NET calorie goal....
I listed it as 1-3 exercise sessions per week depending on the options on the BMR calculator and I don't eat back the calories.
I've read I should but I figured a greater deficit would yield faster results.0 -
If he is in fact still eating 1000 calories it shows you will hit a wall of weight loss. What OP is doing is killing his rate to burn calories throughout the day.0
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yopeeps025 wrote: »Very large deficit slows down metabolism.
Myth.0 -
[/quote]geniusgamer wrote: »Do you weigh everything you eat using a food scale? If not, you're most likely eating more than you think, which is why you could have been eating over 3000 calories without realizing it.
No. I eat diet meals smartones/leancuisines/healthychoice/etc.
They have a nutrition label that says exactly what the total calories for the whole meal is. So that's what I log.
Why would I need to weigh it? I'm not preparing my own food.
In the past during my huge weight loss, I would prepare some food, and in those situations I absolutely would weigh it.
Because the weights in those can also be off.0 -
ivygirl1937 wrote: »And not to be mean, OP, but if you DO try to lose this way and "maintain" it as you describe, you are going to wreck havoc on your body and organs, your body cannot handle that kind of treatment. Save yourself a lot of money in medical treatment later and listen to what these people are telling you. Up the calories some, lose weight safely.
This is one of my main takeaways from this thread. I am concerned about losing lean mass and other health problems.0 -
[/quote]geniusgamer wrote: »Do you weigh everything you eat using a food scale? If not, you're most likely eating more than you think, which is why you could have been eating over 3000 calories without realizing it.
No. I eat diet meals smartones/leancuisines/healthychoice/etc.
They have a nutrition label that says exactly what the total calories for the whole meal is. So that's what I log.
Why would I need to weigh it? I'm not preparing my own food.
In the past during my huge weight loss, I would prepare some food, and in those situations I absolutely would weigh it.
Are some of the packages more than one serving and you are eating the whole thing assuming the label is talking about the whole package when it may be 2-4 servings?
Also pre packaged meals have a ton of sodium so you could just be retaining water masking any fat loss you have. That said, 1000 cals is very unhealthy for someone your size. You will end up losing lean muscle, not just fat, and have a good chance at becoming malnourished.0 -
geniusgamer wrote: »As for the torture aspect, I haven't had any discomfort eating 1000. Whenever I diet, my appetite reduces to match whatever I'm eating. Haven't had any cravings.
Okay... now you're just bragging.... lol
Wish I didn't have cravings...
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1000 calories...a day?
This thread gives me the sadz.....and is also turning into a "please help.....no you're wrong I'm doing it right" thread.
I never said I was doing anything right other than counting calories. And I am. I'm not preparing my own food so there is no reason to weigh it. I eat prepackaged diet meals with caloric information on the label.
It feels pretty aggressive that these people are insisting that I'm not counting everything though.
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geniusgamer wrote: »joelschneider45066 wrote: »btw Genius , how are you handling your daily exercise? Did you mark yourself as "Sedentary" or "Active" or what ? For me, I am marked as "Sedentary" and then I earn back the calories I burned working out, so even though my daily goal is 1720, I really eat like 2200 per day and still hit my NET calorie goal....
I listed it as 1-3 exercise sessions per week depending on the options on the BMR calculator and I don't eat back the calories.
I've read I should but I figured a greater deficit would yield faster results.
Faster results and more lean muscle loss and other health ramifications (hair falling out, weak nails, bad skin, etc)0 -
geniusgamer wrote: »tracymayo1 wrote: »If you don't weigh all your food with a SCALE - then you are not properly logging what you eat. you can't rely on the labels... they aren't accurate....
This isn't relevant to me because I'm not preparing my own food at all. If I was I'd weigh it.
I'm eating prepackaged diet meals with caloric listings on their nutrition labels.
Ok, well to humor us, weigh one of the meals... see what the actual food weighs compared to the label. Also, there is TONS of salt and preservatives in those.. why would you want to eat them?
I used to eat those for lunch everyday. until I read all the ingredients... never again. It is just as easy to make extra at dinner, and have left overs.
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geniusgamer wrote: »ivygirl1937 wrote: »And not to be mean, OP, but if you DO try to lose this way and "maintain" it as you describe, you are going to wreck havoc on your body and organs, your body cannot handle that kind of treatment. Save yourself a lot of money in medical treatment later and listen to what these people are telling you. Up the calories some, lose weight safely.
This is one of my main takeaways from this thread. I am concerned about losing lean mass and other health problems.
You can pretty much bet on losing LBM. There is no real weight training listed in your 1-3 exercises, and if you aren't eating exercise calories back you're probably netting more like 700-800 calories that day.0 -
Are some of the packages more than one serving and you are eating the whole thing assuming the label is talking about the whole package when it may be 2-4 servings?
Also pre packaged meals have a ton of sodium so you could just be retaining water masking any fat loss you have. That said, 1000 cals is very unhealthy for someone your size. You will end up losing lean muscle, not just fat, and have a good chance at becoming malnourished.
A - many meals I eat have multiple servings, and I multiply the calories per serving * # servings every time.
B - Honestly I'm really hoping the water retention is a big if not primary factor in my plateau.0 -
geniusgamer wrote: »ivygirl1937 wrote: »And not to be mean, OP, but if you DO try to lose this way and "maintain" it as you describe, you are going to wreck havoc on your body and organs, your body cannot handle that kind of treatment. Save yourself a lot of money in medical treatment later and listen to what these people are telling you. Up the calories some, lose weight safely.
This is one of my main takeaways from this thread. I am concerned about losing lean mass and other health problems.
You are not if you are eating 1000 calories. Stop lying LOL
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geniusgamer wrote: »joelschneider45066 wrote: »btw Genius , how are you handling your daily exercise? Did you mark yourself as "Sedentary" or "Active" or what ? For me, I am marked as "Sedentary" and then I earn back the calories I burned working out, so even though my daily goal is 1720, I really eat like 2200 per day and still hit my NET calorie goal....
I listed it as 1-3 exercise sessions per week depending on the options on the BMR calculator and I don't eat back the calories.
I've read I should but I figured a greater deficit would yield faster results.
And actually, the thought that a greater deficit would yield faster results has not proven to be true. If you don't give your body enough fuel to work with and get through your day, it will start storing everything it can AND shutting down some of your body processes until it thinks it gets enough food so you actually don't lose weight faster. Please, if you are going to lose weight, do it safely. Because you will lose muscle mass and really damage your body to the point where it can't repair itself.
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geniusgamer wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »Very large deficit slows down metabolism.
Myth.
actually it is true, your body will start neglecting non life sustaining functions (skin, hair, nail growth/health) and shed muscle in order to lower your BMR and slow your fat loss, it does this for survival and self preservation.
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tracymayo1 wrote: »Ok, well to humor us, weigh one of the meals... see what the actual food weighs compared to the label. Also, there is TONS of salt and preservatives in those.. why would you want to eat them?
I used to eat those for lunch everyday. until I read all the ingredients... never again. It is just as easy to make extra at dinner, and have left overs.
I'll do that for the next meal I eat. I guess I'll have to pour everything out of the little portion dividers onto a plate. I'll list the exact meal it is and protein/carb/fat/sodium too.0 -
Usually anything prepackaged contains alot of sodium regardless of the nutritional content and your body will retain weight. I would cook from scratch for a couple weeks and see if you see a difference. Anything from a box is toxic in my opinion, all the additives, etc.0
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OP, you seem to have this all figured out. Don't know why you posted here, cuz you have all the answers. Go you!!! and good luck!!!0
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You can pretty much bet on losing LBM. There is no real weight training listed in your 1-3 exercises, and if you aren't eating exercise calories back you're probably netting more like 700-800 calories that day.
Well.. curls and pushups are basically weight training. Just because I'm not using actual weights in pushups, I am working against weight-based resistance.
A month ago I had a hard time benching the bar or doing even 10 pushups. In the month since, I've been following a pushup plan and I can do 86 consecutive pushups and when I tried benching for the first time in a month, I benched 165 twice without too much difficulty.0 -
geniusgamer wrote: »1000 calories...a day?
This thread gives me the sadz.....and is also turning into a "please help.....no you're wrong I'm doing it right" thread.
I never said I was doing anything right other than counting calories. And I am. I'm not preparing my own food so there is no reason to weigh it. I eat prepackaged diet meals with caloric information on the label.
It feels pretty aggressive that these people are insisting that I'm not counting everything though.
That's because your claim doesn't make sense so people are trying to figure out where you are miscalculating...0 -
Wow!! 210 lbs loss last time you dieted? Amazing!! How much did you weigh originally when you succeeded? And what was your goal weight?0
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Another thing you might consider Genius.... All those packaged meals likely have a very high sodium content. I don't know about others, but for me high sodium = lots of water retention (not to mention the other bad things it does) ... just something to consider about those easy to eat type meals ....0
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yopeeps025 wrote: »
You are not if you are eating 1000 calories. Stop lying LOL
Wait a second. What are you saying I'm lying about?0
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