30 lbs in 90 days challenge
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The advice is for the sake of health both mental and physical. This isn't about a scale number. This isn't about a destination. It should be about lasting change. Listening to successful people on the board, reflecting through success stories, you'll see even people who had 100s to lose did to at a sustainable pace and those that have stayed to help others only want what is best.
We're not haters. We just know what it's like to want something so badly. To know what it's like to want to get their fast but the fact is, slower loss is healthier. Whether you listen to that is totally up to you but I'd rather at least get my input in there.
Sustained periods of VLCD might get you your scale number but don't be disappointed by the results. Best of luck.
ETA : I don't have a weight loss goal. I lost 53 lbs in 9 months and that ended in February of this year. I've been maintaing/bulking through lifting. My goals aren't a number. I want to spend my life continuing to improve myself and I love helping others. Some are willing to listen, some aren't.0 -
Well of course we all want it to be long lasting and sustaining. Some people just stay on track better when they set a goal. I can't speak for anyone else but I know that personally if I don't have a firm challenging goal in mind with pretty much anything I attempt I'm much more likely to just throw up my hands and be all "Eff it, can't be bothered today." If I aim for 2lbs a week I might get 2 or I might only get 1 and that's cool. But if I aim for one I'll probably gain a pound instead, lol.
You also seem to be under the impression that having an aggressive goal means you want something "so badly", and are willing to do anything to get it. That may be true for some people but not everyone.
Once again I can in no way speak for everyone but I've only been over weight for a few years. Like 3? And I've been at the top of that for maybe 1.5 Or 2? I spent my summers at military camp. I gained weight because I work nights on my butt and stopped paying attention to what I put in my mouth. But my body snaps back really fast because being active and pushed is its natural state and it responds quickly. It always has. I gained weight over the school year, spend a few weeks at camp and come back a fit beast. I've also studied nutrition.
I'm not desperate to lose this weight. I'm sexy as hell. But I want it gone. Because it's not me. I feel like I'm in someone else's body. Being this size is abnormal for me. I'm not in a super speedy rush, but I'm not about to snail pace it either just because some people on the internet don't see how there can be a correlation between going at a faster pace, staying steady but also allowing yourself to be flexible.
Yes I have a weight loss goal. No that's not a bad thing. Yes I have a number in my head, but will it change? Probably. I will take inches lost over pounds lost anyday. Do I have a daily calorie goal? Yes. Am I afraid to be flexible with it and eat above them if I feel I need to? No. I'm not afraid to skip a whole week of working out. I plan to make this a lifestyle change not a one time diet.
It's great that you want to help people and give advice. But your arrogance is in assuming that your advice is correct for everyone's situation.-2 -
Call me arrogant all you want but overly aggressive sustained dieting has negative impacts on health. I'm not assuming anything. I'm telling you facts. If you want to run the risk of losing muscle mass, hair, lowering the calories it takes you to maintain, and the laundry list of negative impacts that are a result of it. Be my guest. Go for it. Shoot for the stars.
So, I'm confused. . Are you doing 2 lbs a week? Do you even know what your rate of loss is? Did you just pick a random number to hit by x date? It's all over the place, at this point.
whatever, good luck.
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It's a 3 month goal. "Sustained" implies trying to stay at this rate for 1 year or more.BombshellPhoenix wrote: »Call me arrogant all you want but overly aggressive sustained dieting has negative impacts on health. I'm not assuming anything. I'm telling you facts. If you want to run the risk of losing muscle mass, hair, lowering the calories it takes you to maintain, and the laundry list of negative impacts that are a result of it. Be my guest. Go for it. Shoot for the stars.
So, I'm confused. . Are you doing 2 lbs a week? Do you even know what your rate of loss is? Did you just pick a random number to hit by x date? It's all over the place, at this point.
whatever, good luck.
Say two pounds a week 4 weeks a month that's 8 pounds. 8 x 3 =24. But 24 is just a weird number to me so I just make it nice and round and say 30. 30 in 3, I like the sound of it Nothing is set in stone it's just something to shoot for. People take weight loss so d*mn seriously. It doesn't have to be. Throwing out a goal number doesn't mean it's set in stone. And for me it works better than saying "I'm just going to fart around with no direction and see what happens tra la la."
And yes I know what my rate of loss is.
You keep speaking to me as if I'm not ABUNDANTLY aware of the different risks and impacts no matter I say. So yes, that is arrogant. You don't seem to grasp that when a person KNOWS the facts they can then use that knowledge to make sure they stay out of the danger zone. You keep looking at everything in black as white.
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Well said Ms HarryWinston, i totally agree with you
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lizzie14115 wrote: »anyone know how i forward this on to my friends to invite them to the challenge?
yes go to the group and you can just say add friend and type in their info or you can just send them the link in a message 0 -
MsHarryWinston wrote: »My micro goal is to lose 10lbs a month. My mini goal is 30lbs by Jan 1st.
Check your math...
Per OP, Challenge starts Oct 31st.
10lbs/mo X 2 months (Nov & Dec) = 20 lbs
Yeaaaaaah except that I started this goal at the start of October, so no I don't need to check my math. Oct, Nov, Dec is roughly 90 days. My personal goal is similar to her challenge which is why I felt qualified to speak about it. I won't be joining her challenge because I'm already in the middle of my own, same target, just started month earlier than hers. That's why I said it was MY mini goal.
I have roughly 80lbs to lose. If I feel like I am capable of attempting something great why would I settle for personal mediocrity?
If I think I can do 20 sit ups today why would I say, "meh why not just do 10 and call it quits?" That won't make me any stronger and I will have done myself a disservice.
If I think I can happily and in a healthy way lose even somewhere in the area of 30lbs in three months, why would I say "oh just try for 9lbs" when I KNOW I can do better than that?.
That's not how I live any part of my life. I'm not afraid to fall short of my life goals. I'm not going to set half *ssed goals because I'm afraid I might not reach bigger ones. Even if I only lose 20 I'll know I tried, really tried.
And as I get closer to my goal I'll slowly adjust things as needed and reassess my situation.
But for everyone to say that people with bigger goals are setting themselves up for sadness and failure is just horrible. Is that how you live your whole lives? Telling people to never strive because they may not make it? What's that saying , "I'm going to shoot for the moon and even if I don't make it, at least I'll land among the stars"?
I love this! I wish you tons of luck on your process. I also started losing weight in general at the beginning of this month. I also have a bout 70-80 lbs total to lose so we're kind of in the same boat. You can still feel free to join the challenge if only for the support, encouragement, and celebration of great weigh ins 0 -
Just for reference I eat 1400 cals a day in balanced meal in smaller portions.0
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missjazminenicole wrote: »Just for reference I eat 1400 cals a day in balanced meal in smaller portions.
See, now are you netting that? Because that doesn't sound that bad if you eat some of your exercise calories back. To attain 3 lbs up you'd have to be eating like a bird. The reason I jumped the gun is, typically to lose an aggressive amount of weight we're talking like 900 gross calories. People who are under eating and being reckless. Sure 30 in 3 months might sound catchier but be careful what crowd that attracts. There are a lot of people with ED on mfp or calorie counters in general. My worry is the encouragement to lose weight recklessly.0 -
BombshellPhoenix wrote: »missjazminenicole wrote: »Just for reference I eat 1400 cals a day in balanced meal in smaller portions.
See, now are you netting that? Because that doesn't sound that bad if you eat some of your exercise calories back. To attain 3 lbs up you'd have to be eating like a bird. The reason I jumped the gun is, typically to lose an aggressive amount of weight we're talking like 900 gross calories. People who are under eating and being reckless. Sure 30 in 3 months might sound catchier but be careful what crowd that attracts. There are a lot of people with ED on mfp or calorie counters in general. My worry is the encouragement to lose weight recklessly.
Ya I understand, but I'm eating super healthy and also not killing myself in the gym. I net about 3 days a week in the gym and I pretty much fall between 1200-1400 a day in cals. But the whole point is a life style change. Yes, we're doing the challenge but all of the encouragement is to do your best while doing it healthy and making it a life style change. By no means do i encourage anyone to harm their body. But no harm in shooting for the stars the healthy way 0 -
I think this is fine as long as you don't think falling short constitutes a failure. There are many of us who have had similar goals and have made very positive life style changes. The fact that we started out losing 2plus lbs and then started to slow down wasn't due to not giving it a decent effort or that we didn't have the gumption to shot for the stars. So, as long as you don't develop a "by any means necessary" approach and this happens, good for you. However, if you start to have less weight loss per week but continue to see progress, you will also be a success. The problem is that sometimes folks have big (and perhaps unrealistic) plans and when they don't happen they throw in the towel. Wherever you start, the key is to know where you want to get to and keep an eye on this. The speed to which you get there isn't as important as staying healthy and motivated. I wish you the best on your journey and hope you reach your weight loss and health goals (whenever!)0
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When I was obese I lost at around 10 lbs a month, partially because, well, I was obese, and, well, I wanted to get out of the obese range due to the ever impending threat of prediabetes hanging over my head. After losing the first 50 lbs or so I've since lost slowly (being that I feel I'm out of the "danger" region now, and am now 65 lbs into my weight loss btw, with no real rush to get to goal), so I think it really depends on what your reasons are for losing weight, and how much you have to lose. But, I would guess that you're right that it's not the best thing for the average person, nor would I encourage a "challenge" to lose that much; too harmful for the psyche I think. Hard to say though.0
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I think this is fine as long as you don't think falling short constitutes a failure. There are many of us who have had similar goals and have made very positive life style changes. The fact that we started out losing 2plus lbs and then started to slow down wasn't due to not giving it a decent effort or that we didn't have the gumption to shot for the stars. So, as long as you don't develop a "by any means necessary" approach and this happens, good for you. However, if you start to have less weight loss per week but continue to see progress, you will also be a success. The problem is that sometimes folks have big (and perhaps unrealistic) plans and when they don't happen they throw in the towel. Wherever you start, the key is to know where you want to get to and keep an eye on this. The speed to which you get there isn't as important as staying healthy and motivated. I wish you the best on your journey and hope you reach your weight loss and health goals (whenever!)
This. Exactly why I mentioned a challenge could potentially be hard on the psyche. But, like I said, it allll depends.0 -
The challenge starts tomorrow! Are you guys ready to weigh in ??? 0
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For those of you who joined the challenge. Don't forget today is week 2 weigh in! Go weigh in here: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10010991/week-two-weigh-in-11-14-140
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Go weigh in for the 30lbs in 90 days challenge! We're halfway there! I'm at 14 down total for the challenge and we've just hit halfway mark. Where are you? We started October 31st. We welcome newbies to join on and use their loss as starting from that date!0 -
I started my life style change at the 1st of October.
I lost about 51 pounds.
Insane ..yes
But i am happy with it. I eat around the 1350 calories a day ( was 1200) but i am doing it slowly up because i started walking 3 miles a day and some exercising.
I feel wonderful
My out of breath and heart racing has stopped and is normal again. My BP went from 152/112 to 123/73 in those 11 weeks.
and my high blood sugar level is normal again.
I was holding water in my left knee and ankles and hands ( all gone).
This is all monitored btw.
Indeed losing a lot of weight can be dangerous But being extreme obese too. I had the option. Excepting the horrible feeling i was going to die or do something about it.
So i did something about it.
All healthy food, i eat 6 times a day.
No adding sugar or salt. And careful with grain products.
Walk a minimum of 10K steps a day
Lots of water.
I can eat everything only in moderation ( i weigh everything) Everything fresh.
Fish/meat/nuts/fruit/vegetables/lets not forget herbs/ some dairy and grain products.
I make and develop my own recipes ( i had a restaurant when i was younger and love cooking) And next to that i listen to my body, when it asks for more like 2 weeks ago i up my calories. I have no gravings, nor being hungry.
People here jump on you ( me) when i say/tell/post this.
Warn me about the danger and anorexia people who jump on my post because of all the weigh loss. But consider this. Those kinda people with an ED, will find always an excuse to criticize their body. And i would be happy if they eat 1350 calories a day because at least they eat something. Besides that, i am not responsible for the fact that they have the wrong idea about them self and find them self overweight or ugly fat. They will find all over the internet the information they want to hear. Not what they really need to do. They only pick out the info that suits them.
I am on my own life style journey and it works for me. This doesn't mean it works for somebody else. But it seems that people always find the need to judge, criticize others. In the end your all self responsible for your actions.
oh and btw.... i know in time the weight loss slows down.. A lot of water weight in the beginning ( and i had a lot).
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »I started my life style change at the 1st of October.
I lost about 51 pounds.
Insane ..yes
But i am happy with it. I eat around the 1350 calories a day ( was 1200) but i am doing it slowly up because i started walking 3 miles a day and some exercising.
I feel wonderful
My out of breath and heart racing has stopped and is normal again. My BP went from 152/112 to 123/73 in those 11 weeks.
and my high blood sugar level is normal again.
I was holding water in my left knee and ankles and hands ( all gone).
This is all monitored btw.
Indeed losing a lot of weight can be dangerous But being extreme obese too. I had the option. Excepting the horrible feeling i was going to die or do something about it.
So i did something about it.
All healthy food, i eat 6 times a day.
No adding sugar or salt. And careful with grain products.
Walk a minimum of 10K steps a day
Lots of water.
I can eat everything only in moderation ( i weigh everything) Everything fresh.
Fish/meat/nuts/fruit/vegetables/lets not forget herbs/ some dairy and grain products.
I make and develop my own recipes ( i had a restaurant when i was younger and love cooking) And next to that i listen to my body, when it asks for more like 2 weeks ago i up my calories. I have no gravings, nor being hungry.
People here jump on you ( me) when i say/tell/post this.
Warn me about the danger and anorexia people who jump on my post because of all the weigh loss. But consider this. Those kinda people with an ED, will find always an excuse to criticize their body. And i would be happy if they eat 1350 calories a day because at least they eat something. Besides that, i am not responsible for the fact that they have the wrong idea about them self and find them self overweight or ugly fat. They will find all over the internet the information they want to hear. Not what they really need to do. They only pick out the info that suits them.
I am on my own life style journey and it works for me. This doesn't mean it works for somebody else. But it seems that people always find the need to judge, criticize others. In the end your all self responsible for your actions.
oh and btw.... i know in time the weight loss slows down.. A lot of water weight in the beginning ( and i had a lot).
I love your post. Thanks for sharing and congrats on your lifestyle change and weight loss. People are quick to criticize but we're all just doing our best as healthy as possible. Keep it up! Sounds like you are doing great 0 -
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I find it pretty funny how most of the answers are about "too aggressive" and "you won't be able to sustain it".
I personally think it is possible unless the person is not used to workout hard (I understand not everybody is at the same fitness level) and do walks in the park for a workout. It wasn't my goal, but doing P90X I lost 30 lbs in 90 days. So yes, it is possible.
Also, sustainable? That applies for fast and slow weight lost. If the person losing weight focuses on doing this for 90 days and then stop working out and go back to bad eating habits, anyone will gain the weight back. Nothing new there.0 -
The_WoIverine wrote: »I find it pretty funny how most of the answers are about "too aggressive" and "you won't be able to sustain it".
I personally think it is possible unless the person is not used to workout hard (I understand not everybody is at the same fitness level) and do walks in the park for a workout. It wasn't my goal, but doing P90X I lost 30 lbs in 90 days. So yes, it is possible.
Also, sustainable? That applies for fast and slow weight lost. If the person losing weight focuses on doing this for 90 days and then stop working out and go back to bad eating habits, anyone will gain the weight back. Nothing new there.
What is being discussed, as far as I read it, is people who may have only about 30-50 lbs to lose. Losing that weight at the clip required to finish in 90 days would be aggressive, and come at a caloric level that would be hard to sustain and at the sacrifice of LBM.
If you have 100lbs to drop, ya...30 in 90 is doable. If you have less than 50, then that may be asking too much. It's about the context.
My main point in responding though:
It has nothing to do with whether or not a person is used to working out hard, and if you need to continue to "workout hard" to maintain....you're doing it wrong. Your fitness level should have zip, zero, zilch to do with it..
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It can be done, not by everyone I'm sure but I believe a lot of people underestimate themselves. This guy dropped over 100lbs in just 5 months with a strict but simple approach.
reddit.com/r/loseit/comments/2q73l1/male_24_years_old_61_295_to_191_lbs_in_5_months/0 -
It sure can be done and not for everybody maybe. Everybody is different I am pretty lucky that i have no hunger and no gravings at all.
I lost 52 pounds now since the first of October and still going strong.
Of course you have to watch what your doing. My daily goals are getting all my nutrition in that i need. And when my body asks for more i up my calories. I get fitter so my exercises get heavier and longer. So you need more fuel. I started with those 1200 for some weeks and now i am around the 1450. Some days over some days under. All depends. But as soon as i notice that i need more, i will go to 1500 a day.
I also get a kick out of the postings..."you lose fast so you will gain it back fast too".
Its all about the calories in and out. That's all.
I lost 60 pounds in 9 months before and didn't gain it back for more than 20 years.
The moment i was tied to a chair and couldn't work or do any kind of sport ( had an injured leg) i started gaining about 10 pounds.
So the whole myth "you lose fast so you will gain it back fast too" i dont believe in.
When you maintain you just have to watch it that you dont eat more calories than you burn...that's all.
Pretty simple system
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I lost 41lbs in 3 months (as of yesterday). I work out 5x a week and spend my calories very wisely. I don't feel hungry or weak. I may have lost muscle but it's not discernible to me. I lift heavy can see more and more definition as the fat burns off. I've worked out for more than 20 years prior to gaining weight (after an injury and surgery). I kept a lot of the muscle I had so I think that's helped me.
I have no interest in losing weight really slowly. In 3 months my endurance and fitness level has increased significantly. I feel so much better and can't wait to get all the way back to a normal weight for my height and body composition. Whether I gain it back will not depend on how fast I lost it. I hated being fat and it really caused me physical problems. I never want to experience that again.0 -
awesome astrose. I wish I saw this thread in October. i'm totally in.0
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