Not losing weight on low carb?
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stop being a bully!BombshellPhoenix wrote: »Kick-start your metabolism? I'd see a new nutritionist. Your metabolism should always be functioning...unless you're dead. In fact, eating in a calorie surplus for extended periods actually help metabolism, so unless you have a medical condition, you should be in a prime position FOR weight loss without doing anything special to your diet, outside of a calorie deficit.
Agreed. Also, I'd see a dietitian over a nutritionist as they have more education. Being in a full state of ketosis isn't healthy and can lead to high cholesterol, kidney problems, kidney stones, osteoporosis, and of course all the diseases linked to high cholesterol like heart disease. Carbs are absolutely necessary in one's diet to fuel your brain and cells. Any nutritionist that recommends a low carb diet is not a nutritionist that I would recommend.
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Regardless of what "plan" you are on, the only way to lose fat is being in a calorie deficit. If you aren't weighing and measuring everything - chances are really good you are eating more calories than you think. Eating over calories - regardless of what you are eating - will stop you from losing.0
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BombshellPhoenix wrote: »Kick-start your metabolism? I'd see a new nutritionist. Your metabolism should always be functioning...unless you're dead. In fact, eating in a calorie surplus for extended periods actually help metabolism, so unless you have a medical condition, you should be in a prime position FOR weight loss without doing anything special to your diet, outside of a calorie deficit.
Agreed. Also, I'd see a dietitian over a nutritionist as they have more education. Being in a full state of ketosis isn't healthy and can lead to high cholesterol, kidney problems, kidney stones, osteoporosis, and of course all the diseases linked to high cholesterol like heart disease. Carbs are absolutely necessary in one's diet to fuel your brain and cells. Any nutritionist that recommends a low carb diet is not a nutritionist that I would recommend.
I react negatively to carbs so mine must be limited to about 20g per day. Either that or I have to go on medication to slow their breakdown. Carbs are not absolutely necessary in high doses..and can be harmful if you consume too many with certain conditions.
Some people have conditions that would make them benefit from lowering their carb intake, like the OP.
She is seeing a dietician.
You can have a poorly functioning metabolism and not be dead.0 -
stop being a bully!BombshellPhoenix wrote: »Kick-start your metabolism? I'd see a new nutritionist. Your metabolism should always be functioning...unless you're dead. In fact, eating in a calorie surplus for extended periods actually help metabolism, so unless you have a medical condition, you should be in a prime position FOR weight loss without doing anything special to your diet, outside of a calorie deficit.
Agreed. Also, I'd see a dietitian over a nutritionist as they have more education. Being in a full state of ketosis isn't healthy and can lead to high cholesterol, kidney problems, kidney stones, osteoporosis, and of course all the diseases linked to high cholesterol like heart disease. Carbs are absolutely necessary in one's diet to fuel your brain and cells. Any nutritionist that recommends a low carb diet is not a nutritionist that I would recommend.
Bully isn't the quite word I'd use to describe someone giving a list of make-believe symptoms and half truths.0 -
stop being a bully!BombshellPhoenix wrote: »Kick-start your metabolism? I'd see a new nutritionist. Your metabolism should always be functioning...unless you're dead. In fact, eating in a calorie surplus for extended periods actually help metabolism, so unless you have a medical condition, you should be in a prime position FOR weight loss without doing anything special to your diet, outside of a calorie deficit.
Agreed. Also, I'd see a dietitian over a nutritionist as they have more education. Being in a full state of ketosis isn't healthy and can lead to high cholesterol, kidney problems, kidney stones, osteoporosis, and of course all the diseases linked to high cholesterol like heart disease. Carbs are absolutely necessary in one's diet to fuel your brain and cells. Any nutritionist that recommends a low carb diet is not a nutritionist that I would recommend.
Oh, end it already. The guy I called a bully was condescending and down right rude, belittling the expert who is guiding me. For someone to come on a message board and give advice with an iron fist is a bully.
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blktngldhrt wrote: »Just had a chat with my specialist. The word she used for this phase one is Gluconeogenesis. I can't explain any of it, LOL! But that was her reasoning for this plan.
We talked about my eating habits and we made some tweaks. The good news is that I can start to add a piece of fruit or a healthy carb to my diet now.
In a nutshell, she thinks it would be beneficial for you if your body made its fuel (glucose) from noncarbohydrate sources. There are many reasons for this type of diet to be suggested such as high blood pressure, high triglycerides, high blood sugar, and cholesterol imbalances..to name a few.
I'm glad you are experiencing some good effects of your new plan. Hopefully the helpful suggestions given aid in furthering your success.
Yes, that is exactly it! I had bloodwork and had high everything (except blood pressure). She mentioned so much about my pancreas and liver and how they work in all of this. Really, I am not well versed in it so can't repeat all of it word for word.
She didn't say much about the turkey burger. I am getting a good amount of fats, but just suggested the protein and more water intake. I will agree that my water could be higher, esp. if there's a sodium issue going on.
Yeah..I would disregard the naysayers who didn't stop to think you were going to a dietician because of some medical issues.
I'm sure turkey burger is just fine. As long as you can fit it into the macros you were given. I like to have hemp seed or coconut oil to get my fat levels where they need to be. I'm not always into eating 80/20 beef..and actually prefer ground turkey and other lean meats.0 -
BombshellPhoenix wrote: »Kick-start your metabolism? I'd see a new nutritionist. Your metabolism should always be functioning...unless you're dead. In fact, eating in a calorie surplus for extended periods actually help metabolism, so unless you have a medical condition, you should be in a prime position FOR weight loss without doing anything special to your diet, outside of a calorie deficit.
Agreed. Also, I'd see a dietitian over a nutritionist as they have more education. Being in a full state of ketosis isn't healthy and can lead to high cholesterol, kidney problems, kidney stones, osteoporosis, and of course all the diseases linked to high cholesterol like heart disease. Carbs are absolutely necessary in one's diet to fuel your brain and cells. Any nutritionist that recommends a low carb diet is not a nutritionist that I would recommend.
Please read the post a few above yours by blktngldhrt. Yes, there is a medical reason I am on this. And she's not a nutritionist, she's a dietitian, I was incorrect.0 -
blktngldhrt wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »Just had a chat with my specialist. The word she used for this phase one is Gluconeogenesis. I can't explain any of it, LOL! But that was her reasoning for this plan.
We talked about my eating habits and we made some tweaks. The good news is that I can start to add a piece of fruit or a healthy carb to my diet now.
In a nutshell, she thinks it would be beneficial for you if your body made its fuel (glucose) from noncarbohydrate sources. There are many reasons for this type of diet to be suggested such as high blood pressure, high triglycerides, high blood sugar, and cholesterol imbalances..to name a few.
I'm glad you are experiencing some good effects of your new plan. Hopefully the helpful suggestions given aid in furthering your success.
Yes, that is exactly it! I had bloodwork and had high everything (except blood pressure). She mentioned so much about my pancreas and liver and how they work in all of this. Really, I am not well versed in it so can't repeat all of it word for word.
She didn't say much about the turkey burger. I am getting a good amount of fats, but just suggested the protein and more water intake. I will agree that my water could be higher, esp. if there's a sodium issue going on.
Yeah..I would disregard the naysayers who didn't stop to think you were going to a dietician because of some medical issues.
I'm sure turkey burger is just fine. As long as you can fit it into the macros you were given. I like to have hemp seed or coconut oil to get my fat levels where they need to be. I'm not always into eating 80/20 beef..and actually prefer ground turkey and other lean meats.
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AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »Why are you low carbing??? Just eat less calories and move more!
I love my carbs and need them to power my workouts!!! I love fruit too - I couldn't give this up! I would be so ratty & miserable too.
Dieting is all about a lifestyle change, Having what you want, but in moderation. Looking at your portion control etc. Also getting the most out of your calories.
My bmr is 1450 and I never eat under this, 1200 calories wont cut me, especially at 5 ft 9... I love my food too much!!!!
If that works for YOU then that is great. However, the medical expert I saw has put me on this plan and I actually feel great. I am not working out with cardio every single day. I cannot do carbs in my diet. Yes, carbs if you can do a good work out, but not when I have two children and my husband travels for work. I am lucky to get a shower most days.
This is wrong. Carbs are necessary in every diet, not just for people who work out/do cardio. I am actually quite unsure where you got that idea from. And I'm talking about more than the paltry 30g a day you say you're getting.
Find your TDEE, subtract 20% from that number, and eat the number of calories to lose weight at a reasonable and sustainable rate. Don't cut out or demonize any food groups.
I think this is where you provide proof of your clameLow-carb is just another name for a diet that is high in fat and protein.
No matter how fat you are, when you eat carbohydrates, the body will immediately default to using the newly-ingested carbohydrates as fuel. Eat enough carbs, and your glycogen stores will maximize. Eat more carbs and you will start to make fat, no matter how much fat you have already.
So eating a low carb diet mean that your carb fuel-burning "pathway" will be exhausted earlier, and you will then be spending more time in the fat-burning mode (ketosis). Run an overall calorie deficit while in the fat-burning mode, and you will, inevitably, burn off fat.
As I have posted elsewhere, all roads regarding weight loss lead to Rome- a single metabolic state that must be achieved. Your body must be in the fat-burning mode metabolically while running a calorie deficit for a significant enough amount of time. Then you lose weight.
Your nutritionist wants to get you into that mode with a low-carb diet.
But you can also get into it through exercise- the additional energy demands make you burn through your glycogen stores to the point where the cells turn to fat for fuel predominantly. When you achieve it depends on the type of exercise. The long slow stuff (aerobic) is the way to go.
You can also water-fast and get into this state.
Even with a normal or high carb diet, after a meal it takes about seven hours without eating anything else for the body to burn down its glycogen stores to the point where the fat-burning mode takes over.
If you eat only protein and fat, you will always be in this mode.
Gluconeogenesis is the process where, in the fat-burning mode, glucose is manufactured from the breakdown of non-essential proteins. This is because our brains are fueled by glucose only- though they can adapt to ketones under a prolonged period of sustained fat-burning. The body spares glycogen by making its own glucose.
Read this again until you get the concepts. Very simple really. It helps to know the rationale behind all these diets when it comes to motivation.
If I'm not mistaken becoming keto adapted (switching your brain to using keystones for fuel) takes 4-6weeks of being in constant ketosis. Am I correct?0 -
Amazing how people are being flagged for abuse (likely by the OP) just because they are challenging her and in no way being abusive.0
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ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »Why are you low carbing??? Just eat less calories and move more!
I love my carbs and need them to power my workouts!!! I love fruit too - I couldn't give this up! I would be so ratty & miserable too.
Dieting is all about a lifestyle change, Having what you want, but in moderation. Looking at your portion control etc. Also getting the most out of your calories.
My bmr is 1450 and I never eat under this, 1200 calories wont cut me, especially at 5 ft 9... I love my food too much!!!!
If that works for YOU then that is great. However, the medical expert I saw has put me on this plan and I actually feel great. I am not working out with cardio every single day. I cannot do carbs in my diet. Yes, carbs if you can do a good work out, but not when I have two children and my husband travels for work. I am lucky to get a shower most days.
This is wrong. Carbs are necessary in every diet, not just for people who work out/do cardio. I am actually quite unsure where you got that idea from. And I'm talking about more than the paltry 30g a day you say you're getting.
Find your TDEE, subtract 20% from that number, and eat the number of calories to lose weight at a reasonable and sustainable rate. Don't cut out or demonize any food groups.
I think this is where you provide proof of your clameLow-carb is just another name for a diet that is high in fat and protein.
No matter how fat you are, when you eat carbohydrates, the body will immediately default to using the newly-ingested carbohydrates as fuel. Eat enough carbs, and your glycogen stores will maximize. Eat more carbs and you will start to make fat, no matter how much fat you have already.
So eating a low carb diet mean that your carb fuel-burning "pathway" will be exhausted earlier, and you will then be spending more time in the fat-burning mode (ketosis). Run an overall calorie deficit while in the fat-burning mode, and you will, inevitably, burn off fat.
As I have posted elsewhere, all roads regarding weight loss lead to Rome- a single metabolic state that must be achieved. Your body must be in the fat-burning mode metabolically while running a calorie deficit for a significant enough amount of time. Then you lose weight.
Your nutritionist wants to get you into that mode with a low-carb diet.
But you can also get into it through exercise- the additional energy demands make you burn through your glycogen stores to the point where the cells turn to fat for fuel predominantly. When you achieve it depends on the type of exercise. The long slow stuff (aerobic) is the way to go.
You can also water-fast and get into this state.
Even with a normal or high carb diet, after a meal it takes about seven hours without eating anything else for the body to burn down its glycogen stores to the point where the fat-burning mode takes over.
If you eat only protein and fat, you will always be in this mode.
Gluconeogenesis is the process where, in the fat-burning mode, glucose is manufactured from the breakdown of non-essential proteins. This is because our brains are fueled by glucose only- though they can adapt to ketones under a prolonged period of sustained fat-burning. The body spares glycogen by making its own glucose.
Read this again until you get the concepts. Very simple really. It helps to know the rationale behind all these diets when it comes to motivation.
If I'm not mistaken becoming keto adapted (switching your brain to using keystones for fuel) takes 4-6weeks of being in constant ketosis. Am I correct?
Yes. It takes a long time. Probably not that long- the adaption is gradual and goes to a max of maybe 50% ketones.
Someone with an average amount of fat can water-fast for three weeks without any real harm being done.
Addendum- working off my post, no matter what type of meal you eat at night, when you sleep for 7-8 hours during the night without waking up to snack, in the morning you will wake up in the fast-burning mode.
Test question: what should you do to sustain that mode?
Whatever the hell I want while staying in my respective calories goals....but that's just me and we all know I'm special.
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ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »Why are you low carbing??? Just eat less calories and move more!
I love my carbs and need them to power my workouts!!! I love fruit too - I couldn't give this up! I would be so ratty & miserable too.
Dieting is all about a lifestyle change, Having what you want, but in moderation. Looking at your portion control etc. Also getting the most out of your calories.
My bmr is 1450 and I never eat under this, 1200 calories wont cut me, especially at 5 ft 9... I love my food too much!!!!
If that works for YOU then that is great. However, the medical expert I saw has put me on this plan and I actually feel great. I am not working out with cardio every single day. I cannot do carbs in my diet. Yes, carbs if you can do a good work out, but not when I have two children and my husband travels for work. I am lucky to get a shower most days.
This is wrong. Carbs are necessary in every diet, not just for people who work out/do cardio. I am actually quite unsure where you got that idea from. And I'm talking about more than the paltry 30g a day you say you're getting.
Find your TDEE, subtract 20% from that number, and eat the number of calories to lose weight at a reasonable and sustainable rate. Don't cut out or demonize any food groups.
I think this is where you provide proof of your clameLow-carb is just another name for a diet that is high in fat and protein.
No matter how fat you are, when you eat carbohydrates, the body will immediately default to using the newly-ingested carbohydrates as fuel. Eat enough carbs, and your glycogen stores will maximize. Eat more carbs and you will start to make fat, no matter how much fat you have already.
So eating a low carb diet mean that your carb fuel-burning "pathway" will be exhausted earlier, and you will then be spending more time in the fat-burning mode (ketosis). Run an overall calorie deficit while in the fat-burning mode, and you will, inevitably, burn off fat.
As I have posted elsewhere, all roads regarding weight loss lead to Rome- a single metabolic state that must be achieved. Your body must be in the fat-burning mode metabolically while running a calorie deficit for a significant enough amount of time. Then you lose weight.
Your nutritionist wants to get you into that mode with a low-carb diet.
But you can also get into it through exercise- the additional energy demands make you burn through your glycogen stores to the point where the cells turn to fat for fuel predominantly. When you achieve it depends on the type of exercise. The long slow stuff (aerobic) is the way to go.
You can also water-fast and get into this state.
Even with a normal or high carb diet, after a meal it takes about seven hours without eating anything else for the body to burn down its glycogen stores to the point where the fat-burning mode takes over.
If you eat only protein and fat, you will always be in this mode.
Gluconeogenesis is the process where, in the fat-burning mode, glucose is manufactured from the breakdown of non-essential proteins. This is because our brains are fueled by glucose only- though they can adapt to ketones under a prolonged period of sustained fat-burning. The body spares glycogen by making its own glucose.
Read this again until you get the concepts. Very simple really. It helps to know the rationale behind all these diets when it comes to motivation.
If I'm not mistaken becoming keto adapted (switching your brain to using keystones for fuel) takes 4-6weeks of being in constant ketosis. Am I correct?
Yes. It takes a long time. Probably not that long- the adaption is gradual and goes to a max of maybe 50% ketones.
Someone with an average amount of fat can water-fast for three weeks without any real harm being done.
Addendum- working off my post, no matter what type of meal you eat at night, when you sleep for 7-8 hours during the night without waking up to snack, in the morning you will wake up in the fast-burning mode.
Test question: what should you do to sustain that mode?
To keep yourself from going anabolic and to keep from filling your glycogen stores you want to have a breakfast of fats and protein. Many choose to drink a bullet proof coffee or have bacon and eggs.
I am going caution any one who chooses to water fast to have it cleared by their dr and if they want to do so for extended periods of time to do so under medical care only!0 -
Not exercising yet. I walk casually and am active b/c I have two kids. But I am not doing anything high impact. I don't weigh everything but the food I eat is high protein, low fat. I eat mostly salad, chicken, protein shakes, and eggs. Sometimes a piece of turkey bacon or sausage. If it is all water weight, then am I really losing any weight at all? I am so frustrated!
Add healthy fats. Olive oil, coconut oil, butter, avocado. Very difficult to lose while doing low carb and low fat.0 -
BombshellPhoenix wrote: »ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: »Why are you low carbing??? Just eat less calories and move more!
I love my carbs and need them to power my workouts!!! I love fruit too - I couldn't give this up! I would be so ratty & miserable too.
Dieting is all about a lifestyle change, Having what you want, but in moderation. Looking at your portion control etc. Also getting the most out of your calories.
My bmr is 1450 and I never eat under this, 1200 calories wont cut me, especially at 5 ft 9... I love my food too much!!!!
If that works for YOU then that is great. However, the medical expert I saw has put me on this plan and I actually feel great. I am not working out with cardio every single day. I cannot do carbs in my diet. Yes, carbs if you can do a good work out, but not when I have two children and my husband travels for work. I am lucky to get a shower most days.
This is wrong. Carbs are necessary in every diet, not just for people who work out/do cardio. I am actually quite unsure where you got that idea from. And I'm talking about more than the paltry 30g a day you say you're getting.
Find your TDEE, subtract 20% from that number, and eat the number of calories to lose weight at a reasonable and sustainable rate. Don't cut out or demonize any food groups.
I think this is where you provide proof of your clameLow-carb is just another name for a diet that is high in fat and protein.
No matter how fat you are, when you eat carbohydrates, the body will immediately default to using the newly-ingested carbohydrates as fuel. Eat enough carbs, and your glycogen stores will maximize. Eat more carbs and you will start to make fat, no matter how much fat you have already.
So eating a low carb diet mean that your carb fuel-burning "pathway" will be exhausted earlier, and you will then be spending more time in the fat-burning mode (ketosis). Run an overall calorie deficit while in the fat-burning mode, and you will, inevitably, burn off fat.
As I have posted elsewhere, all roads regarding weight loss lead to Rome- a single metabolic state that must be achieved. Your body must be in the fat-burning mode metabolically while running a calorie deficit for a significant enough amount of time. Then you lose weight.
Your nutritionist wants to get you into that mode with a low-carb diet.
But you can also get into it through exercise- the additional energy demands make you burn through your glycogen stores to the point where the cells turn to fat for fuel predominantly. When you achieve it depends on the type of exercise. The long slow stuff (aerobic) is the way to go.
You can also water-fast and get into this state.
Even with a normal or high carb diet, after a meal it takes about seven hours without eating anything else for the body to burn down its glycogen stores to the point where the fat-burning mode takes over.
If you eat only protein and fat, you will always be in this mode.
Gluconeogenesis is the process where, in the fat-burning mode, glucose is manufactured from the breakdown of non-essential proteins. This is because our brains are fueled by glucose only- though they can adapt to ketones under a prolonged period of sustained fat-burning. The body spares glycogen by making its own glucose.
Read this again until you get the concepts. Very simple really. It helps to know the rationale behind all these diets when it comes to motivation.
If I'm not mistaken becoming keto adapted (switching your brain to using keystones for fuel) takes 4-6weeks of being in constant ketosis. Am I correct?
Yes. It takes a long time. Probably not that long- the adaption is gradual and goes to a max of maybe 50% ketones.
Someone with an average amount of fat can water-fast for three weeks without any real harm being done.
Addendum- working off my post, no matter what type of meal you eat at night, when you sleep for 7-8 hours during the night without waking up to snack, in the morning you will wake up in the fast-burning mode.
Test question: what should you do to sustain that mode?
Whatever the hell I want while staying in my respective calories goals....but that's just me and we all know I'm special.
Looking at your pictures, I am NOT going to argue that point!
Lol.
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You do not need to bother trying to "get in fat burning mode". When you eat fewer carbs to burn more fat, you're also eating more fat. So the fact that fat oxidation may go up in the short term doesn't mean squat.
Eating in a long term calorie deficit will cause you to lose fat regardless of which particular substrates you're burning in the short term. And note that this doesn't mean macronutrient intakes are irrelevant.0 -
You do not need to bother trying to "get in fat burning mode". When you eat fewer carbs to burn more fat, you're also eating more fat. So the fact that fat oxidation may go up in the short term doesn't mean squat.
Eating in a long term calorie deficit will cause you to lose fat regardless of which particular substrates you're burning in the short term. And note that this doesn't mean macronutrient intakes are irrelevant.
So wrong.
You are either in the carbohydrate burning mode, or the fat burning mode.
You must be in the fat burning mode, and running at a calorie deficit, in order to burn fat and so lose weight.
Read my long post again. This is basic physiology.
Tip for you... anytime you are in a calorie deficit.. regardless if you eat carbs or not.. you are fat burner mode. It's basic science. If what you were saying was actually true, which it's not, the people on 80/10/10 diets wouldn't lose weight.
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Unfortunately, I don' think we can understand that context of what the dietitian actually said since we weren't there. If she actually said that low carb will jump start your metabolism, then shame on her because it's not true. But I suspect, it could have been a selling point or the fact that decreasing carbs for added proteins and fats will increase satiety. But hey, even very knowledgeable people still believe in old science or advocate myths.
As you already know, get a food scale, log your foods daily and then as you exercise, increase calories. Honestly, there is nothing wrong with a low carb diet outside or personal affects. I can't follow a low carb diet because workout suffer anytime I drop below 200 grams of carbs a day. But for my wife, she has to be low carb and needs to max out around 120g carbs a day or less.
But if one thing is certain, it still comes down to calories in vs out.0 -
You do not need to bother trying to "get in fat burning mode". When you eat fewer carbs to burn more fat, you're also eating more fat. So the fact that fat oxidation may go up in the short term doesn't mean squat.
Eating in a long term calorie deficit will cause you to lose fat regardless of which particular substrates you're burning in the short term. And note that this doesn't mean macronutrient intakes are irrelevant.
So wrong.
You are either in the carbohydrate burning mode, or the fat burning mode.
You must be in the fat burning mode, and running at a calorie deficit, in order to burn fat and so lose weight.
Read my long post again. This is basic physiology.
I'm saying that trying to micromanage substrate utilization is pointless. If you are in a calorie deficit for extended periods of time you will net fat loss regardless of what substrates are being used in the short term.
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You do not need to bother trying to "get in fat burning mode". When you eat fewer carbs to burn more fat, you're also eating more fat. So the fact that fat oxidation may go up in the short term doesn't mean squat.
Eating in a long term calorie deficit will cause you to lose fat regardless of which particular substrates you're burning in the short term. And note that this doesn't mean macronutrient intakes are irrelevant.
So wrong.
You are either in the carbohydrate burning mode, or the fat burning mode.
You must be in the fat burning mode, and running at a calorie deficit, in order to burn fat and so lose weight.
Read my long post again. This is basic physiology.You do not need to bother trying to "get in fat burning mode". When you eat fewer carbs to burn more fat, you're also eating more fat. So the fact that fat oxidation may go up in the short term doesn't mean squat.
Eating in a long term calorie deficit will cause you to lose fat regardless of which particular substrates you're burning in the short term. And note that this doesn't mean macronutrient intakes are irrelevant.
So wrong.
You are either in the carbohydrate burning mode, or the fat burning mode.
You must be in the fat burning mode, and running at a calorie deficit, in order to burn fat and so lose weight.
Read my long post again. This is basic physiology.
You are claiming that it is an "either/or" and then you call this basic physiology?
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I'm ignoring the whole low carb debate, but wanted to comment on this...And no, I do not have my monthly adventure right now - I am in the middle of my cycle. I lost more while on my cycle.
FWIW, I gained 2lbs overnight this week as I'm ovulating and I always bloat during that. When at the beginning of my cycle, the reverse happens and I can lose 2lbs overnight.
One week isn't long enough to be worried about. If you're putting in the effort on a consistent basis, it will eventually show on the scale. If it doesn't, then you need to look for an underlying cause. Which will most likely be underestimating calories, as others have already mentioned.0 -
You do not need to bother trying to "get in fat burning mode". When you eat fewer carbs to burn more fat, you're also eating more fat. So the fact that fat oxidation may go up in the short term doesn't mean squat.
Eating in a long term calorie deficit will cause you to lose fat regardless of which particular substrates you're burning in the short term. And note that this doesn't mean macronutrient intakes are irrelevant.
So wrong.
You are either in the carbohydrate burning mode, or the fat burning mode.
You must be in the fat burning mode, and running at a calorie deficit, in order to burn fat and so lose weight.
Read my long post again. This is basic physiology.
Tip for you... anytime you are in a calorie deficit.. regardless if you eat carbs or not.. you are fat burner mode. It's basic science. If what you were saying was actually true, which it's not, the people on 80/10/10 diets wouldn't lose weight.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't listen to Steve. You just need a calorie deficit. How you get there; IIFYM, low carb, vegan, paleo, IF....its your choice...but it really comes down to eating less calories than you burn.
I really truly wish that someone would have been straightforward with me about how low carb really worked when I first ate low carb. (Not that anyone mislead me purposely, but it wasn't pointed out either). I think understanding why it works is important and that doesn't take away from any of the benefits you mentioned you are enjoying.-1 -
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Jim_Barteck wrote: »Ummm, yeah, that is close to what I used to eat - and now I am overweight. ha ha!
And you wonder why people are "bullying" you? Take a look in the mirror at your attitude.
It wasn't what you were eating. It was that you wouldn't stop eating it. You ate too much of it. Period.
Now you want to make fun of other people who can make it work simply because you didn't show the self-restraint necessary to make it work for yourself?
Talk about bullying attitudes....
You are grossly wrong, once again, by what I was conveying. I fully admitted to having a diet where I ate all the wrong things and it effected my weight. The gentleman who posted that admitted that he was eating that way for a reason. I assume he works out and lifts weights, or does something where he can eat that way. I am not of the same lifestyle as him. I gain weight when I eat like that, plain and simple. I wasn't making fun of him. Kudos to him for doing something that works for HIM. Now go back to the house that fell on you, troll!
Yes, he logs and tracks his calories so he knows where he can fit in any food he wants...
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OP, if you have any further questions, you might want to wander over to the keto or low-carb groups. You'll avoid certain misinformers and won't have all the "don't do low-carb, it's not magic" noise.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/1143-keto
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/1494-reddit-keto
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-group
No one really believes it's magic, that's just something people who don't like the premise of low-carb pull out as a knee-jerk to discredit it. Don't worry Muggles, we set our own straight just fine.0 -
baconslave wrote: »OP, if you have any further questions, you might want to wander over to the keto or low-carb groups. You'll avoid certain misinformers and won't have all the "don't do low-carb, it's not magic" noise.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/1143-keto
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/1494-reddit-keto
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-group
No one really believes it's magic, that's just something people who don't like the premise of low-carb pull out as a knee-jerk to discredit it. Don't worry Muggles, we set our own straight just fine.
Who are the "misinformers"? I mean I can only think of the one fake guy...0 -
Who are the "misinformers"? I mean I can only think of the one fake guy...
There's plenty, although the typical post isn't so much misinformation as unsolicited advice to completely overhaul the OP's routine. But as far as misinformers, we could start with:Agreed. Also, I'd see a dietitian over a nutritionist as they have more education. Being in a full state of ketosis isn't healthy and can lead to high cholesterol, kidney problems, kidney stones, osteoporosis, and of course all the diseases linked to high cholesterol like heart disease. Carbs are absolutely necessary in one's diet to fuel your brain and cells. Any nutritionist that recommends a low carb diet is not a nutritionist that I would recommend.0 -
Ahhh... OK.
I usually see these individuals labeled as "misinformers" when they try to help people on low carb that are struggling.Type of food and macro ratio does not matter as far as weight loss goes. In order to lose weight, you must eat less calories than you burn. Calorie reduction causes weight loss, balance of macros is for energy, satiety, and nutrients.
In other words, choose your diet type, but you must eat at a calorie deficit to lose weight.
Eat less and you will lose weight.0 -
Ahhh... OK.
I usually see these individuals labeled as "misinformers" when they try to help people on low carb that are struggling.Type of food and macro ratio does not matter as far as weight loss goes. In order to lose weight, you must eat less calories than you burn. Calorie reduction causes weight loss, balance of macros is for energy, satiety, and nutrients.
In other words, choose your diet type, but you must eat at a calorie deficit to lose weight.
Eat less and you will lose weight.
Oh, I'm sure that happens too, but personally I don't see any real misinformation in what you're quoting. I probably wouldn't say macro ratio doesn't matter in terms of weight loss, as it does as a practical matter since most people care about body composition at the end of the day... but now we're splitting hairs, haha.0 -
The purpose of a low carb diet is so that your body stops feeling hungry and burns the fat in your body.
The purpose of a low carb diet is primarily to lower calorie intake. Also helps to get insulin under control if you have a problem with insulin resistance.
If you low carb and do not maintain a state of negative energy balance you will not burn the fat on your body.0 -
the food I eat is high protein, low fat.
If you are low carb, high protein and low fat you are not likely in ketosis. The excess protein via gluconeogenesis will likely kick you out of ketosis. Lower your protein and raise your fat and see if that helps. Also still, eat at a deficit. Should not be hard to do since low carb helps curb appetite...
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