Quick rule of thumb on how to breathe while lifting weights

ninerbuff
ninerbuff Posts: 48,974 Member
edited November 8 in Fitness and Exercise
Lots of people get confused so here's something easy to remember:

Inhale on the EASIER motion of the exercise (that's usually going to be in the eccentric phase).

A CONTROLLED exhale on the HARDER motion of the exercise (concentric phase).

IE: If doing a barbell curl, the easier motion is bringing the bar back down and the harder motion is curling it up.

This is applied to any exercise. DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH on exercises throughout (especially in the concentric phase) as this will exponentially increase your blood pressure and for some cause them to faint or get dizzy and pass out.

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  • thanks.
  • deluxmary2000
    deluxmary2000 Posts: 981 Member
    I always mix this up - thank you!
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    Thanks. I suck at breathing during squats.
  • trishfit2014
    trishfit2014 Posts: 304 Member
    I hold my breath while bench pressing. Thanks for the reminder!
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    If I breath out while doing my lifts, I lose the tightness and my form goes to crap. I have to wait until a finish the rep and breath inbetween
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,974 Member
    herrspoons wrote: »
    I always hold my breath on squats until I'm 2/3 of the way up. I also try and do at least the first three reps of bench and press with breath held.

    Keeps things tight.
    Haven't mastered how to keep it tight while still breathing then. Something to work on.

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  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    If I breath out while doing my lifts, I lose the tightness and my form goes to crap. I have to wait until a finish the rep and breath inbetween
    Same, I need to breathe basically when it feels comfortable. If I focus on breathing while also focusing on the rep itself, then I basically lose all form. It's like when I got distracted while lunging in the squat rack when I was kind of side-eyeing a cute guy LOL. If I just focus on the form and whatnot, breathing just falls into a comfortable place.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,974 Member
    If I breath out while doing my lifts, I lose the tightness and my form goes to crap. I have to wait until a finish the rep and breath inbetween
    See above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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  • ksy1969
    ksy1969 Posts: 700 Member
    If I breath out while doing my lifts, I lose the tightness and my form goes to crap. I have to wait until a finish the rep and breath inbetween

    ^^^This^^^^

    Any training video I have watched, especially with the squat, has them holding the breathe till the rep is complete. This is to help keep the core tight during the lift.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    I can see what Niner is saying if you aren't using a belt but with the belt on, pushing out against the belt helps with core tightness. IMHO
  • ponycyndi
    ponycyndi Posts: 858 Member
    I keep forgetting that I'm not doing cardio. Timing my movements with my breathing, then taking a breath between, helps to keep me focused on controlled movements instead of bouncing around.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,974 Member
    edited October 2014
    ksy1969 wrote: »
    If I breath out while doing my lifts, I lose the tightness and my form goes to crap. I have to wait until a finish the rep and breath inbetween

    ^^^This^^^^

    Any training video I have watched, especially with the squat, has them holding the breathe till the rep is complete. This is to help keep the core tight during the lift.
    Post one. I for one would like to see a legit trainer doing it.

    People that lose form when breathing out aren't creating "intra abdominal pressure" to keep the core tight when squatting, bench pressing, rowing, etc.
    There's a difference in breathing out and just blowing out air and breathing out through the diaphram while keeping your core tight.
    Again, it's something to learn and master. It takes practice, but take a breath in and when you blow out, do it by flexing your core at the same time.

    EDIT: One quick note I forgot to mention. Breathing out isn't all at once. With squats lots of people do it through "pursed" lips (which is why some sound like they hiss when they lift).
    Point is, holding your breath through a movement (especially heavy compound movements) isn't recommended.

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  • monicapevans
    monicapevans Posts: 16 Member
    off topic but how are you supposed to breathe when you run? mouth or nose?
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    off topic but how are you supposed to breathe when you run? mouth or nose?

    Personally, when my respiration rate gets to a certain point, nose breathing just don't cut it. So for me, it's mouth/both.
  • monicapevans
    monicapevans Posts: 16 Member
    thanks jacksonpt
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    ksy1969 wrote: »
    If I breath out while doing my lifts, I lose the tightness and my form goes to crap. I have to wait until a finish the rep and breath inbetween

    ^^^This^^^^

    Any training video I have watched, especially with the squat, has them holding the breathe till the rep is complete. This is to help keep the core tight during the lift.
    Post one. I for one would like to see a legit trainer doing it.


    Mark Rippetoe:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkeN_fkXrdE

    Not a video, but an excerpt from 5/3/1 with Jim Wendler:
    Before the descent, take another breath and go. Keep this air in until you’re about 2/3 of the way back up. Then you can let it out.



  • Burt_Huttz
    Burt_Huttz Posts: 1,612 Member
    Yep - - it's actually like pooping. But don't actually poop. Upon this, is frowned.

    With love,
    Burt
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,974 Member
    I can see what Niner is saying if you aren't using a belt but with the belt on, pushing out against the belt helps with core tightness. IMHO
    Belts are supposed to be pretty snug making it a little tougher to inhale anyway creating more intra abdominal wall pressure. If they aren't snug before the lift, then it's essentially like lifting without a belt.

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  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    jacksonpt wrote: »
    Thanks. I suck at breathing during squats.

    Same here, when I have over about 260# on, I forget to breath until the rep is over. Too busy concentrating on everything else.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,974 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    jacksonpt wrote: »
    Thanks. I suck at breathing during squats.

    Same here, when I have over about 260# on, I forget to breath until the rep is over. Too busy concentrating on everything else.
    Gotta work on the kiai bro.

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,974 Member
    edited October 2014
    TR0berts wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    ksy1969 wrote: »
    If I breath out while doing my lifts, I lose the tightness and my form goes to crap. I have to wait until a finish the rep and breath inbetween

    ^^^This^^^^

    Any training video I have watched, especially with the squat, has them holding the breathe till the rep is complete. This is to help keep the core tight during the lift.
    Post one. I for one would like to see a legit trainer doing it.


    Mark Rippetoe:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkeN_fkXrdE

    Not a video, but an excerpt from 5/3/1 with Jim Wendler:
    Before the descent, take another breath and go. Keep this air in until you’re about 2/3 of the way back up. Then you can let it out.

    Person referred to holding breath till rep was COMPLETED. Haven't seen that endorsed here.

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  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    jacksonpt wrote: »
    Thanks. I suck at breathing during squats.

    Same here, when I have over about 260# on, I forget to breath until the rep is over. Too busy concentrating on everything else.
    Gotta work on the kiai bro.

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    That's a good idea, I want to put someone to sleep right now anyway.

    Honestly, just not sure how I'd comfortably and tightly breathe in during the while staying tight, I'd rather get tight, then go. Coming up underload, you're going to be exhaling anyway.
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    I have felt a little light headed after heavy squats before. I think it's because I'll hold during multiple reps. If I breath 2-3 times before each rep, I do much better
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,974 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    jacksonpt wrote: »
    Thanks. I suck at breathing during squats.

    Same here, when I have over about 260# on, I forget to breath until the rep is over. Too busy concentrating on everything else.
    Gotta work on the kiai bro.

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    That's a good idea, I want to put someone to sleep right now anyway.

    Honestly, just not sure how I'd comfortably and tightly breathe in during the while staying tight, I'd rather get tight, then go. Coming up underload, you're going to be exhaling anyway.
    Alot of people just breathe into their lungs. They don't "bring it down" to their core. In other words when they take a breath, they expand their chest only. Correct intake of breath would involve your abs pushing out FIRST as you breathe in then expand the chest. A short hold of breath at the very hardest execution, then a controlled exhale (again through the abdominals).
    It's something to practice. Kinda like pec flexing.

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  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    jacksonpt wrote: »
    Thanks. I suck at breathing during squats.

    Same here, when I have over about 260# on, I forget to breath until the rep is over. Too busy concentrating on everything else.
    Gotta work on the kiai bro.

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    That's a good idea, I want to put someone to sleep right now anyway.

    Honestly, just not sure how I'd comfortably and tightly breathe in during the while staying tight, I'd rather get tight, then go. Coming up underload, you're going to be exhaling anyway.

    I can do it when I'm constipated and pushing... never thought to apply that skill to my lifting.
  • Burt_Huttz
    Burt_Huttz Posts: 1,612 Member
    jacksonpt wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    jacksonpt wrote: »
    Thanks. I suck at breathing during squats.

    Same here, when I have over about 260# on, I forget to breath until the rep is over. Too busy concentrating on everything else.
    Gotta work on the kiai bro.

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    That's a good idea, I want to put someone to sleep right now anyway.

    Honestly, just not sure how I'd comfortably and tightly breathe in during the while staying tight, I'd rather get tight, then go. Coming up underload, you're going to be exhaling anyway.

    I can do it when I'm constipated and pushing... never thought to apply that skill to my lifting.

    Same basic mechanism, called the Valsalva maneuver.
  • ksy1969
    ksy1969 Posts: 700 Member
    Ok, learned a lesson. Thanks Niner. I went back to a couple of the popular videos and if you are not paying attention, it looks like they are holding all the way through, they are not.

    I did some more research and discovered you are supposed to do a controlled exhale on the way up out of a squat. I was noticing that I was getting light headed sometimes during squats, but felt I was getting enough oxygen so wasn't sure what was going on, I just took more time between reps. Learned that by holding my breathe all the way through the rep is what was causing the issue. By doing that I was temporarily increasing my blood pressure because of intra-thoracic pressure in the chest cavity. Which, can cause cardiovascular challenges. Who knew? Apparently Niner did.
  • KBjimAZ
    KBjimAZ Posts: 369 Member
    Google "breathe behind the shield" and you'll find some decent info about breathing under tension.
  • tulips_and_tea
    tulips_and_tea Posts: 5,741 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    ksy1969 wrote: »
    If I breath out while doing my lifts, I lose the tightness and my form goes to crap. I have to wait until a finish the rep and breath inbetween

    ^^^This^^^^

    Any training video I have watched, especially with the squat, has them holding the breathe till the rep is complete. This is to help keep the core tight during the lift.
    Post one. I for one would like to see a legit trainer doing it.

    People that lose form when breathing out aren't creating "intra abdominal pressure" to keep the core tight when squatting, bench pressing, rowing, etc.
    There's a difference in breathing out and just blowing out air and breathing out through the diaphram while keeping your core tight.
    Again, it's something to learn and master. It takes practice, but take a breath in and when you blow out, do it by flexing your core at the same time.

    EDIT: One quick note I forgot to mention. Breathing out isn't all at once. With squats lots of people do it through "pursed" lips (which is why some sound like they hiss when they lift).
    Point is, holding your breath through a movement (especially heavy compound movements) isn't recommended.

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    THANK YOU! This is one of the reasons my husband and I can't workout together. He's a breath-holder. I attempted a few times to explain to him why it's not a good idea, but he's the "man" and is supposed to know better than I when it comes to lifting weights! Uh, ok. Whatever.

    I worked really hard to master the slow steady breathing technique both with cardio and lifting, using my full lung capacity and bringing it down to my core, as you say it, and what a HUGE difference it has made! I've had people at the gym ask me how I do my HIIT, maintain a high intensity and not be gasping for breath (although I'm dripping with sweat) and I've tried to explain, but the couple of people who asked me would rather chat with someone else while they do their cardio, so they didn't understand the concept.

    Anyway, thank you for addressing this. IMHO this is a very important, but often overlooked key to cardio and weight training.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,974 Member
    ksy1969 wrote: »
    Ok, learned a lesson. Thanks Niner. I went back to a couple of the popular videos and if you are not paying attention, it looks like they are holding all the way through, they are not.

    I did some more research and discovered you are supposed to do a controlled exhale on the way up out of a squat. I was noticing that I was getting light headed sometimes during squats, but felt I was getting enough oxygen so wasn't sure what was going on, I just took more time between reps. Learned that by holding my breathe all the way through the rep is what was causing the issue. By doing that I was temporarily increasing my blood pressure because of intra-thoracic pressure in the chest cavity. Which, can cause cardiovascular challenges. Who knew? Apparently Niner did.
    Glad I could help. While for some it seems a trivial step, breathing correctly while exercising does have an effect on endurance and cardiovascular health.
    There's even a technique I tell my people when doing burpees. For every movement, do a short blow out. They definitely aren't as winded at the end.

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