Went and saw a nutritionist... uh what?
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I'm no dietician or nutritionist...but IMO that's nutty. I would starve on 900cals a day and many days I eat that in one meal on heavy training days. But it's your call if you are gonna eat according to that plan you were given.0
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Firstly, do not come to the "experts" on this site. Unless they are a nutritionist or dietician, they do not really know.
Secondly, your nutritionist is going to know your situation so much better than anyone here.
Finally, if you are filling up on veggies throughout the day you are going to be fine. It may actually end up being more than 900 calories a day when you're finished with the day.
Eating fresh fruits and veggies throughout the day is going to be loads better for you than eating higher calorie foods so that you can satisfy the people online.
There is no such thing as starvation mode, so don't let people scare you with that.0 -
It sounds bad because it's unsustainable. It's clearly a quick-fix thing that would fail long-term, because sometimes items that are not on that list will be served for dinner or whatever. And you'd probably get extremely sick of those limited options.0
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Why the hell are you asking a forum of unqualified nobodies?
Basically you're wanting us to tell you something different to the person you paid to give expert advice. Sure, OK, sounds like rubbish, eat a load more.
By the way I have no idea what I'm talking about. Happy?
Basically a nutritionist can call themselves a nutritionist without any qualifications whatsover therefore their advice should be taken with a pinch of salt as they will vary from very good to very bad. A dietician is someone who has been medically trained by the way. That's why, in the UK at least, dieticians are the ones who work in hospitals. Nutritionists are the on the fringe new age, alternative therapies, quackery side of things.
So she's asking a forum of unqualified nobodies to validate what an unqualified nobody told her.
THIS, sorry to say you wasted your money seeing a nutritionist. Anyone can call themselves one, even you and I. Go and see a dietician.0 -
Breakfast:
Greek yoghurt
Museli
Fruit
Lunch: Salad with protein
Dinner; Protein with unlimited veg
No pasta except once or twice a week with half a cup of brown rice, some wholewheat pasta
This totals MAXIMUM 900 calories, if that. At the moment in the last three months or so I've been averaging approx 1300 cals, which I thought was about right. I voiced this concern to her, and she said it was okay, that eating this amount of calories was RIGHT for me, and should be around 1000 or less.
Other's have outlined the issues with the nutritionist well enough, but something I'd like to point out is that this meal plan that you've outlined could easily be 2k calories depending on how you make it. Assuming you make it calorie dense enough (and potentially have a small snack or two during the day) There's enough room there to get a wide range of foods and ideally hit all your micronutrient needs.0 -
Yes!!Did the nutritionist actually say restrict to 900 calories? Because I could eat that menu quite happily and make it way more than 900. I'm 5'3 and eating an average 1300 a day and losing weight at a nice pace - my diary is open if you need ideas, I eat pretty well.
I think what needs to be clarified is: Did the nutritionist restrict you to 900 cals/day, or is that YOUR estimation? Was it just the menu she gave you, with no caloric restriction? Because, if it was just the menu - it has a lot of merit and can easily be made to fit *any* caloric requirement!
For example, I'm 5'8.5" and 102kg right now. I've chosen not to eat grains, breads, pastas or rice because I'm insulin resistant - carbs like that affect me in a very negative way. However, I can *easily* reach my cals for the day (1700-1800) without those carby things like pastsa/bread/rice. I eat whole foods, cooked myself... moderate protein and high fat, especially lots of coconut oil and avocado, and most of my carbs coming from veggies. You're also not counting in any fat in your diet (olive oil, butter, avocado, coconut oil) which is really important, and high in calories. A dinner with unlimited veggies? That can add up, especially if the veggies are starchy. Salad with protein? No problem - I eat grilled chicken with caesar salad (no croutons) almost every day for lunch and it probably has more calories than a 'carb-laden' meal.
So unless the nutritionist has restricted your calories in addition to the menu outline given to you, I don't see anything wrong with the advice. Just my 2cents.0 -
Firstly, do not come to the "experts" on this site. Unless they are a nutritionist or dietician, they do not really know.
Secondly, your nutritionist is going to know your situation so much better than anyone here.
Finally, if you are filling up on veggies throughout the day you are going to be fine. It may actually end up being more than 900 calories a day when you're finished with the day.
Eating fresh fruits and veggies throughout the day is going to be loads better for you than eating higher calorie foods so that you can satisfy the people online.
There is no such thing as starvation mode, so don't let people scare you with that.
Decide for yourself: http://www.bls.gov/ooh/Healthcare/Dietitians-and-nutritionists.htm#tab-4
I'd check the credentials of your nutritionist.0 -
I have been to one as well and I was told around the same thing. I am 5'4" and at the time i was around 200 lbs and she said not to consume more than 900 cals per day. Yea, I lost weight but the second I would actually eat casue I felt like I was starving to death I would gain the weight back. Obviously since i am 30 lbs heavier than that now. It is easy to do for a little while but not somethign to stick to.0
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My sister is a dietitian and everything she tells me is opposite of that. I would get a second opinion.
^^This.
BIG difference between a nutritionist and a dietitian. Anyone can get a certificate online and call themselves a nutritionist. A dietitian actually has a 4 year degree, has studied human metabolism, and has had (roughly) 1400 hours of supervised practice.0 -
that sounds sort of ridiculous, but i'm not a nutritionist..?
Stick a sign on your door that says you are and then BAM you become one.
Nutritionist is a very loosely guarded term. Dietitians on the other hand need qualifications that take a considerable amount of effort.
^^^^ this0 -
Firstly, do not come to the "experts" on this site. Unless they are a nutritionist or dietician, they do not really know.
Secondly, your nutritionist is going to know your situation so much better than anyone here.
Finally, if you are filling up on veggies throughout the day you are going to be fine. It may actually end up being more than 900 calories a day when you're finished with the day.
Eating fresh fruits and veggies throughout the day is going to be loads better for you than eating higher calorie foods so that you can satisfy the people online.
There is no such thing as starvation mode, so don't let people scare you with that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
Interesting that you make a point insisting not to listen to anyone who is not a dietician or nutritionist, then go on to make a statement on diet and nutrition0 -
Make sure you're eating between 1500-1800 calories a day and at least 100 grams of protein every day. Watch your micronutrients. Are you getting enough calcium and Iron? I seriously doubt you're getting enough calcium.
You need to fuel your workouts. You can't strength train on no fuel. You'll lose strength and mass. I don't think meal timing is all that important, but you have to eat something.
A diet under 1000 calories might be sustainable for up to 4 days to get you in a glycogen depleted state, but even if following one of those diets, you have to up your calories to get your nutrients and sustain your energy levels.
I think the term "starvation mode" is way overused on this website when people really should be saying that your energy is going to suck, your workouts will start sucking, and you'll be miserable most of the time. Yes, you can slow or stall weight loss at some point when you're not eating enough, but....0 -
Breakfast:
Greek yoghurt
Museli
Fruit
Lunch: Salad with protein
Dinner; Protein with unlimited veg
No pasta except once or twice a week with half a cup of brown rice, some wholewheat pasta
This totals MAXIMUM 900 calories, if that. At the moment in the last three months or so I've been averaging approx 1300 cals, which I thought was about right. I voiced this concern to her, and she said it was okay, that eating this amount of calories was RIGHT for me, and should be around 1000 or less.
Did the nutritionist actually say restrict to 900 calories? Because I could eat that menu quite happily and make it way more than 900. I'm 5'3 and eating an average 1300 a day and losing weight at a nice pace - my diary is open if you need ideas, I eat pretty well.
It appears you have got the bog standard plan that every "nutritionist" associated with a gym chain or personal trainer would give you. I've received to one of those when I got suckered into a "fitness package" at my gym. My friend is currently doing this basic plan and losing as she eats a LOT of clean foods. But neither my nutritionist or my friend's every mentioned a calorie limit. I think 900 is the number you arrived at when you cut the carbs (pasta) out of your dinner. Plan says unlimited veg - you can substitute pasta with avocado, beans (or mushrooms, onions and peppers if beans are a no no) & salsa and you can have 900 in one meal.
My experience is that dietition, nutritionist and personal trainers rarely talk calories as if we all knew it was as simple as calorie in lower than calorie out they'd be out of a job
The plan is essentially saying eat clean and snack on fruit and veg instead of crisps you should lose weight on that even if you up your portions to maintain your calories.0 -
This is sensibleI've been seeing a nutritionist for a few months and he told me to eat more warm, nourishing cooked food - more fats, more protein (in particular red meat, which I hardly touched) and to hold back on the refined carbs.
It has really changed my life since I stopped eating processed and "diet" food and started eating real, organic, in season, locally sourced food, cooked from scratch.
There is no need to starve yourself.
agreed. i've taken the same approach and dropped about 20 pounds in 4 months, without counting calories, andstill enjoying the occasional beer.
eat real food. that you cook yourself. not food from a box
Produce not products
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This totals MAXIMUM 900 calories, if that. At the moment in the last three months or so I've been averaging approx 1300 cals, which I thought was about right. I voiced this concern to her, and she said it was okay, that eating this amount of calories was RIGHT for me, and should be around 1000 or less.
I'm female, 5'8, approx 120kgs at the start now around 110kg. I workout approx 3 - 6 times a week, with a PT so cardio/weights, pretty intense exercise as I am pretty strong, e.g. I leg press 3 sets 10 reps 130kg... 30mins cardio each session.
Seriousely though, 900 is way too low. I've been there. Lost weight quick (8kg in 8 weeks) but I was dizzy, REALLY cranky, have enourmous cravings at the end that led me to eat someone else's entire jar of peanutbutter ot the office. You won't be able to keep it up.
900 calories is not a lifestyle change. It's an insane diet that will leave you saggy. It did for me; lost all lean musclemass. So, I was succesfully 55kg but looked like a mess. I'd ask for a second opinion or just make up your own mind based on common sense!
I can't believe you ate someone else's peanut butter! That is so funny. lol0 -
So ...
You were losing weight but went to a nutritionist because, despite your success, you decided to buy into the idea that carbs make you fat.
*sigh*0 -
Perhaps this is net of exercise calories?
If not, something is not adding up.
If you have a positive relationship with a PT? Perhaps the gym offers nutritional advice? Or just get a second opinion.0 -
If you are losing weight with 1300 calories why starve yourself with just 900?0
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Get a second opinion from a Registered Dietician. I went to a nutritionist a few years ago and was told that to be successful I needed to drop my calories to 800 to 1000 calories a day. At the time I still had weight to lose but only maybe 30 lbs and I was working out 6 to 7 days a week. On top of that I was in the process of reversing the damage I had already done from under eating and this nutritionist was wanting me to give starvation a try. I was not going down that road again.
This got me to researching the type of training and certifications one would need to become a nutrionists. I was surprised that in my state the regulations for who can pratice nutrition is very poor. After that I saw a registered dietician, who told me prettty much opposite of what the nutritionist said.
I am glad I decided to work with a dietician, because according to the nutritionist I should not have been successful at losing weight. We are all human and even professionals make mistakes sometimes and there is nothing stopping you from getting a second opinion.
Oh and for me even though I eat mostly clean, I know my body can't run properly on 900 calories no matter the source of those calories.0 -
shoot the Nutritionist0
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Mine told me to eat min 30g of fat per day, yet on the list everything was low-fat yogurt, skimmed milk, egg whites etc.
Only 1 serve of fat a day (30g nuts, 1/4 avocado) etc
Ummmmm NO! I need atleast 2 serves of nuts, + avocado in salad + olive oil etc
Also she said for lunch: Salad + 1/2c grains + 30G meat etc... 30G!?!? Dude... So not enough, I need MORE meat in my diet, NOT less!
She also goes: "When you have Oatmeal, you only have 1/4c right?"
Umm no! 1/2c MINIMUM! I'm a active athelete, and she recomended 1300c.... Sigh.
EDIT: She is a registered Dietician 0 -
Basically a nutritionist can call themselves a nutritionist without any qualifications whatsover therefore their advice should be taken with a pinch of salt as they will vary from very good to very bad. A dietician is someone who has been medically trained by the way. That's why, in the UK at least, dieticians are the ones who work in hospitals. Nutritionists are the on the fringe new age, alternative therapies, quackery side of things.
So she's asking a forum of unqualified nobodies to validate what an unqualified nobody told her.
This.0 -
Apparently you've been restricting your calories, not to the 900 level but not much more and binge eating. Restricting more will only make it worse. You need to formulate a diet that includes foods you like in portions that will accommodate a reasonable intake that takes your exercise into account. You wanting immediate results generally fails, so have patience and get some alternative advice on a new diet plan.Hi guys,
So I went and saw a nutritionist today, my exercise is pretty good and wanted help on the diet side of things.
I know I eat way too much pasta but did not expect the news she gave me!
Essentially my diet would be: (similarish to what I eat now except for the dinners)
Breakfast:
Greek yoghurt
Museli
Fruit
Lunch: Salad with protein
Dinner; Protein with unlimited veg
No pasta except once or twice a week with half a cup of brown rice, some wholewheat pasta
This totals MAXIMUM 900 calories, if that. At the moment in the last three months or so I've been averaging approx 1300 cals, which I thought was about right. I voiced this concern to her, and she said it was okay, that eating this amount of calories was RIGHT for me, and should be around 1000 or less.
I'm female, 5'8, approx 120kgs at the start now around 110kg. I workout approx 3 - 6 times a week, with a PT so cardio/weights, pretty intense exercise as I am pretty strong, e.g. I leg press 3 sets 10 reps 130kg... 30mins cardio each session.
I know I have a fair amount of weight to lose but I'm not 300kg, I mean really... Does this sound right?
**Edit: I have another appointment in three weeks, was just going to try it out and see how things go but at that rate I'll have lost maybe 12kg in three weeks0 -
Breakfast:
Greek yoghurt
Museli
Fruit
Lunch: Salad with protein
Dinner; Protein with unlimited veg
No pasta except once or twice a week with half a cup of brown rice, some wholewheat pasta
This totals MAXIMUM 900 calories, if that. At the moment in the last three months or so I've been averaging approx 1300 cals, which I thought was about right. I voiced this concern to her, and she said it was okay, that eating this amount of calories was RIGHT for me, and should be around 1000 or less.
Did the nutritionist actually say restrict to 900 calories? Because I could eat that menu quite happily and make it way more than 900. I'm 5'3 and eating an average 1300 a day and losing weight at a nice pace - my diary is open if you need ideas, I eat pretty well.
Same here. I'm 5'0, and I eat 1750-1800 calories per day. I'm losing weight at a rate of 0.5 to 1 lb per week, and I only spend about 3.5 hours per week in the gym (nearly all of it heavy strength training). My diet looks a lot like what your nutritionist recommended. I eat Greek yogurt and fruit for my first meal of the day (I don't call it breakfast because I eat at 11 AM). I don't eat lunch. I train in the afternoons, and then I have a protein shake, 12-16 oz of meat, and lots of vegetables for dinner, followed by a generous serving of dark chocolate and peanut butter for dessert.
As for there not being any "experts" on this site, let's be honest with each other: many people on this site have done more research on nutrition and training and weight loss this year than most doctors do in their entire careers. Having letters after your name or a diploma or certificate on the wall doesn't make you an expert. Experience makes you an expert. I've lost over 100 lbs. I eat copious amounts of delicious food. I am really strong, especially for a small woman. I consider myself an expert on the subject of healthy weight loss. I don't really care whether or not anyone else thinks so. I am responsible for me, not you.0 -
Bah! I started to formulate a response based on my visits to a dietitian and then realized I am just darned lucky I don't see your nutritionist.0
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that sounds sort of ridiculous, but i'm not a nutritionist..?
Stick a sign on your door that says you are and then BAM you become one.
Nutritionist is a very loosely guarded term. Dietitians on the other hand need qualifications that take a considerable amount of effort.
ACTUALLY most nutritionists have had a fair amount of schooling, i know i am in process ( the end of a 2 year degree)
I simply do not have the 2 years to put into an apprenticeship to become a RD ...
but that said, yes you can take a couple weeks of classes and be a nutritionist,
also , Nutritionists can make recommendations ,but not actually give you a diet to follow, thats a big bruhaha between the RD and Nutritionists right now..
OP, contact me privately please- if you want non bashing advice.0 -
Why the hell are you asking a forum of unqualified nobodies?
Basically you're wanting us to tell you something different to the person you paid to give expert advice. Sure, OK, sounds like rubbish, eat a load more.
By the way I have no idea what I'm talking about. Happy?
Well, it sounds like we're at least a small step up from getting our degrees and certifications out of a cracker jack box.0 -
This totals MAXIMUM 900 calories, if that. At the moment in the last three months or so I've been averaging approx 1300 cals, which I thought was about right. I voiced this concern to her, and she said it was okay, that eating this amount of calories was RIGHT for me, and should be around 1000 or less.
I'm female, 5'8, approx 120kgs at the start now around 110kg. I workout approx 3 - 6 times a week, with a PT so cardio/weights, pretty intense exercise as I am pretty strong, e.g. I leg press 3 sets 10 reps 130kg... 30mins cardio each session.
Seriousely though, 900 is way too low. I've been there. Lost weight quick (8kg in 8 weeks) but I was dizzy, REALLY cranky, have enourmous cravings at the end that led me to eat someone else's entire jar of peanutbutter ot the office. You won't be able to keep it up.
900 calories is not a lifestyle change. It's an insane diet that will leave you saggy. It did for me; lost all lean musclemass. So, I was succesfully 55kg but looked like a mess. I'd ask for a second opinion or just make up your own mind based on common sense!
I can't believe you ate someone else's peanut butter! That is so funny. lol
Yup, it was ridiculous and my rock bottom
. I just took a spoon and secretly hid behind the kabinet and ate almost the entire thing. Never fessed up either... I just put a new jar next to it. Poor thing must still be wondering what the hell happend. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: 0 -
that sounds sort of ridiculous, but i'm not a nutritionist..?
Stick a sign on your door that says you are and then BAM you become one.
Nutritionist is a very loosely guarded term. Dietitians on the other hand need qualifications that take a considerable amount of effort.
ACTUALLY most nutritionists have had a fair amount of schooling, i know i am in process ( the end of a 2 year degree)
I simply do not have the 2 years to put into an apprenticeship to become a RD ...
but that said, yes you can take a couple weeks of classes and be a nutritionist,
also , Nutritionists can make recommendations ,but not actually give you a diet to follow, thats a big bruhaha between the RD and Nutritionists right now..
OP, contact me privately please- if you want non bashing advice.
Why can't you just give her advice on a public forum?
If you're going to make suggestions to her diet you should do it publicly and stand by them. That's my opinion any ways . . .
Also, some nutritionists do have some amount of schooling. But that wasn't what I said. I said that being a nutritionist is a loosely guarded term. The word 'Nutritionist' is not protected by The Health Professionals Council and I've seen way too many people go and see 'nutritionists' and come out with ridiculous advice.0 -
As for there not being any "experts" on this site, let's be honest with each other: many people on this site have done more research on nutrition and training and weight loss this year than most doctors do in their entire careers. Having letters after your name or a diploma or certificate on the wall doesn't make you an expert. Experience makes you an expert. I've lost over 100 lbs. I eat copious amounts of delicious food. I am really strong, especially for a small woman. I consider myself an expert on the subject of healthy weight loss. I don't really care whether or not anyone else thinks so. I am responsible for me, not you.
Actually no. You can only be an expert on yourself and your own weight loss. Your opinions, for that is all they can be unless you've done the study and passed the medical exams, may be 100% correct or 100% incorrect when applied to other people. I'm sure you have a lot of knowledge, perhaps expert knowledge, that is not what I am questioning, but it counts for very little without the qualifications.0
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