Clean Eating

WinoGelato

DiabolicalColossus wrote: »

I like Sandra Lee.

I lovingly refer to her as Drunken Hines.

I used to watch her show when I had cable because I found it oddly entertaining.

Her recipes...not for me.

So glad I stuck with this thread so I could also plagiarize this... Drunken Hines... awesome!

SLLRunner

lemurcat12 wrote: »

Iwishyouwell wrote: »

Just a lot of people around here seem personally upset over the dietary choices of other grown folk.

But I think you are misunderstanding if you believe that people are objecting to the "clean" thing because we care how others eat. It's odd how people always take the commentary over the term "clean" as others objecting to how people choose to eat (the OP here claimed to take it that way, when that's clearly not what was going on, for example).

I don't care how others eat at all, so long as it works for them. In fact (although it's not relevant, as I also don't care if people are vegetarian or low carb, etc.), if I wanted to, I could claim to "eat clean," since I don't eat boxed meals, most of the products I buy have few ingredients, I'm picky about the restaurants I go to, I like getting produce from farms and try to source my meat and eggs and dairy based on ethical concerns, blah, blah. Back in the day (oddly enough, when I first was gaining weight) I was more fanatical about this (as part of an annoying foodie thing), and much more focused on eating as locally as possible and making everything I could from whole ingredients (the stupidest was not using canned tomatoes, IMO), although I would have described it as about eating "naturally" instead of clean (I would mock myself back then too). Even now I think I have good reasons for some of what I do, but I think a lot of it is just a fetishism or a way of making it more fun, if you prefer, that happens to help me eat better so what's the harm.

I don't describe myself as someone who "eats clean," mostly because I think it's an offensive and rather silly term, but also because I'm aware of how hypocritical it would be. I eat way less, uh, "clean" than I used to (I eat ice cream and Quest bars and yogurt, etc. and even own some quick oats, even if they are 100% Irish, er, organic), and even back then of course I ate processed food since we all do and thought that some kinds of processing was a positive thing. So I can't help but notice it's hypocritical when most others use it too.

But the bigger problem (because everyone is kind of hypocritical about something) is that it's an insult, because you are saying that other ways of eating are "unclean"--not something factual like "includes meat" or "doesn't limit carbs" or "not according to the Paleo diet," but "unclean." And it's completely unnecessary, since you don't need to say "eat clean." You can say "focuses on whole foods" or "try to eat in a way I consider healthy" or--really--you can just say (as I do) "I'm trying to focus on cooking," which seems to encompass a lot of what most people are trying to do when they "go clean."

The weirdest thing (okay, not really, the baking soda was the weirdest) is how new "clean eaters" so often want special "clean" recipes or cook books. What do they think are in regular cookbooks? Recipes starting with Mars Bars or Big Macs? The written version of the Sandra Lee show (assuming anyone else even knows what I mean by that)?

Dang, this exactly.



I have no idea who Sandra Lee is.

PRMinx

lemurcat12 wrote: »

Iwishyouwell wrote: »

Just a lot of people around here seem personally upset over the dietary choices of other grown folk.

But I think you are misunderstanding if you believe that people are objecting to the "clean" thing because we care how others eat. It's odd how people always take the commentary over the term "clean" as others objecting to how people choose to eat (the OP here claimed to take it that way, when that's clearly not what was going on, for example).

I don't care how others eat at all, so long as it works for them. In fact (although it's not relevant, as I also don't care if people are vegetarian or low carb, etc.), if I wanted to, I could claim to "eat clean," since I don't eat boxed meals, most of the products I buy have few ingredients, I'm picky about the restaurants I go to, I like getting produce from farms and try to source my meat and eggs and dairy based on ethical concerns, blah, blah. Back in the day (oddly enough, when I first was gaining weight) I was more fanatical about this (as part of an annoying foodie thing), and much more focused on eating as locally as possible and making everything I could from whole ingredients (the stupidest was not using canned tomatoes, IMO), although I would have described it as about eating "naturally" instead of clean (I would mock myself back then too). Even now I think I have good reasons for some of what I do, but I think a lot of it is just a fetishism or a way of making it more fun, if you prefer, that happens to help me eat better so what's the harm.

I don't describe myself as someone who "eats clean," mostly because I think it's an offensive and rather silly term, but also because I'm aware of how hypocritical it would be. I eat way less, uh, "clean" than I used to (I eat ice cream and Quest bars and yogurt, etc. and even own some quick oats, even if they are 100% Irish, er, organic), and even back then of course I ate processed food since we all do and thought that some kinds of processing was a positive thing. So I can't help but notice it's hypocritical when most others use it too.

But the bigger problem (because everyone is kind of hypocritical about something) is that it's an insult, because you are saying that other ways of eating are "unclean"--not something factual like "includes meat" or "doesn't limit carbs" or "not according to the Paleo diet," but "unclean." And it's completely unnecessary, since you don't need to say "eat clean." You can say "focuses on whole foods" or "try to eat in a way I consider healthy" or--really--you can just say (as I do) "I'm trying to focus on cooking," which seems to encompass a lot of what most people are trying to do when they "go clean."

The weirdest thing (okay, not really, the baking soda was the weirdest) is how new "clean eaters" so often want special "clean" recipes or cook books. What do they think are in regular cookbooks? Recipes starting with Mars Bars or Big Macs? The written version of the Sandra Lee show (assuming anyone else even knows what I mean by that)?

This is amazing.