The Alternate Day Diet.
jayladeyman
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I really want to try the alternative day diet, where you eat normally for one day and then fast and eat around 400 cals. I think this will be good for me, as I"m someone who's basically constantly eating or snacking. I'm 130 and I want to be 120 by December 19. Does everyone think this is a good plan?
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jayladeyman wrote: »I really want to try the alternative day diet, where you eat normally for one day and then fast and eat around 400 cals. I think this will be good for me, as I"m someone who's basically constantly eating or snacking. I'm 130 and I want to be 120 by December 19. Does everyone think this is a good plan?
I couldn't say: today I'm eating 400 calories. Tomorrow I'm eating "normally".
And, (YMMV) that seems like the opposite of the path to a sustainable lifestyle.
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No I think its a bad plan sorry...you might end up gaining in the long run to compensate for starving on your free days0
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What would "normal" be? I think normal eating would last the first day, you eat 400 the next, and on the third you binge like crazy because you're gonna be super hungry. I don't think choosing this type of eating would be the smart choice. You might actually gain weight like this.0
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This sounds absolutely awful and very difficult. If you are someone who is constantly eating, I'm not sure how eating only 400 cals would be sustainable. Also, a loss of 10lbs in less than a month at your weight is not advisable, and probably not even possible.0
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Brad Pilon (Eat Stop Eat), Dr Krista Varady (Every Other Day Diet) and Dr Johnson (UpDayDownDay) all think ADF is a good idea but prepare yourself for a s--- storm of comments from people who freak out at the thought of alternate day fasting or any fasting at all!
Personally I did the 5:2 version of intermittent fasting (Dr Michael Mosley - The Fast Diet) when I lost weight and am successfully maintaining on a 6:1 eating pattern, one day a week at 600 cals, 6 days at a slight surplus.
Suggest you do plenty of research and rather than try to design your own plan follow one that has been properly designed and trialled.
My concern would be you wanting to lose 10lbs so rapidly, unlikely to be a good idea. Much better IMHO to lose the last 10lbs slowly.0 -
Brad Pilon (Eat Stop Eat), Dr Krista Varady (Every Other Day Diet) and Dr Johnson (UpDayDownDay) all think ADF is a good idea but prepare yourself for a s--- storm of comments from people who freak out at the thought of alternate day fasting or any fasting at all!
Personally I did the 5:2 version of intermittent fasting (Dr Michael Mosley - The Fast Diet) when I lost weight and am successfully maintaining on a 6:1 eating pattern, one day a week at 600 cals, 6 days at a slight surplus.
Suggest you do plenty of research and rather than try to design your own plan follow one that has been properly designed and trialled.
My concern would be you wanting to lose 10lbs so rapidly, unlikely to be a good idea. Much better IMHO to lose the last 10lbs slowly.
^^this^^ OP this poster has had success with this method; grab one or all 3 books and yes do the research. And since I'm a turtle, remember, slow and steady wins the race
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give it a try.....regardless of the xoming storm of "just eat in a deficit" crowd. You might like it....you might hate it....it won't hurt you so give it a try.0
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I would say give it a try
it worked for me in the past and i would like to try it again but im struggling lol
try it for 2 weeks see how you feel and see what the results are!
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I think your goal is unrealistic no matter approach to weight loss you choose. 0.5 lb per week is a better goal for the amount of weight you have to lose.0
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Lasmartchika wrote: »What would "normal" be? I think normal eating would last the first day, you eat 400 the next, and on the third you binge like crazy because you're gonna be super hungry. I don't think choosing this type of eating would be the smart choice. You might actually gain weight like this.
With alternate day, 5:2, or other forms of intermittent fasting they should theoretically be tracking and eating their maintenance calories on their non-fast days. But I've seen a ton of people on MFP misapply it and either eat too much or try and stick to a deficit on non-fast days.
It's an eating style that works well for some people and terribly for others. I think it's something the OP will have to figure out for themselves.
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I've been doing alternate day fasting since the beginning of October. I eat up to my tdee on normal days, which is 1700 calories and UP TO 500 calories on fasting days.
I've lost 17lbs with 11lbs left to go.
This is the only thing I've tried in the past few years that has worked for weight loss. And it's easy. And no, I don't overeat on up days, if anything I'm much more satisfied with less food than before I started on IF0 -
_Terrapin_ wrote: »Brad Pilon (Eat Stop Eat), Dr Krista Varady (Every Other Day Diet) and Dr Johnson (UpDayDownDay) all think ADF is a good idea but prepare yourself for a s--- storm of comments from people who freak out at the thought of alternate day fasting or any fasting at all!
Personally I did the 5:2 version of intermittent fasting (Dr Michael Mosley - The Fast Diet) when I lost weight and am successfully maintaining on a 6:1 eating pattern, one day a week at 600 cals, 6 days at a slight surplus.
Suggest you do plenty of research and rather than try to design your own plan follow one that has been properly designed and trialled.
My concern would be you wanting to lose 10lbs so rapidly, unlikely to be a good idea. Much better IMHO to lose the last 10lbs slowly.
^^this^^ OP this poster has had success with this method; grab one or all 3 books and yes do the research. And since I'm a turtle, remember, slow and steady wins the race
I've always loved your moniker!0 -
If you think that works for you and you won't binge, try it. That said, I don't know how someone that small can lose 10 pounds in that time unless you drink a lot of soda/sodium and are going cold turkey in addition to this diet.
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obscuremusicreference wrote: »If you think that works for you and you won't binge, try it. That said, I don't know how someone that small can lose 10 pounds in that time unless you drink a lot of soda/sodium and are going cold turkey in addition to this diet.
Good luck!
wait, what???
I agree that losing 10LBS in a SHORT amount of time is absurdly hard, but... what about soda/sodium? what?0 -
Why do you "need" to lose 10 pounds by Dec. 19?
And to answer your question - no.0 -
If by "normal" you mean eating at your maintenance, I don't think losing 10 lbs is realistic. You are basically eating at a 1000 calorie deficit, but only half the time, so you can expect to lose 1 lb each week. More realistically, you will see your goal weight in February.0
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jayladeyman wrote: »I really want to try the alternative day diet, where you eat normally for one day and then fast and eat around 400 cals. I think this will be good for me, as I"m someone who's basically constantly eating or snacking. I'm 130 and I want to be 120 by December 19. Does everyone think this is a good plan?
Nope. You want to lose10 lbs in about 4 weeks. That's not healthy.0 -
I've been doing ADF for 3 months and like it. I'm on my last 10 lbs. and lose .5lb/week on it, or 1lb./week if I restrict my up days to maintenance level calories. So I think 10lbs. in a month at your weight is too optimistic.
There is a very helpful forum at
http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/juddd/0 -
OP - if you want to do it then, do it. Just keep in mind that IF or alternate day IF is not going to make the weight come off any faster than regular calorie deficit. But if it works for you and helps you stay in said deficit then go for it….0
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Dave198lbs wrote: »give it a try.....regardless of the xoming storm of "just eat in a deficit" crowd. You might like it....you might hate it....it won't hurt you so give it a try.
umm what she is asking about would put her in a deficit….0 -
Still don't understand why people would subject themselves to intermittent fasting instead of a consistent calorie deficit.
I don't have any experience with the IF method myself, but it definitely seems like a diet which could easily spiral someone out of control and lead to binges. But if you'd like to give it a go, it's your decision end of the day0 -
LilyOfTheValley008 wrote: »Still don't understand why people would subject themselves to intermittent fasting instead of a consistent calorie deficit.
I don't have any experience with the IF method myself, but it definitely seems like a diet which could easily spiral someone out of control and lead to binges. But if you'd like to give it a go, it's your decision end of the day
I did it for about six months …16;8 fast sixteen hours, eat for eight hours. It taught me a lot about knowing when I am really hungry and controlling hunger. Plus I can eat a crap ton of food in one sitting, so it was fun to crush 2500 calorie dinner... However, I found that it was hard for me to fit into my lifestyle, so I went back to eating four times a day...0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »obscuremusicreference wrote: »If you think that works for you and you won't binge, try it. That said, I don't know how someone that small can lose 10 pounds in that time unless you drink a lot of soda/sodium and are going cold turkey in addition to this diet.
Good luck!
wait, what???
I agree that losing 10LBS in a SHORT amount of time is absurdly hard, but... what about soda/sodium? what?
*if she consumes a lot now and goes cold turkey so she loses that water weight
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obscuremusicreference wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »obscuremusicreference wrote: »If you think that works for you and you won't binge, try it. That said, I don't know how someone that small can lose 10 pounds in that time unless you drink a lot of soda/sodium and are going cold turkey in addition to this diet.
Good luck!
wait, what???
I agree that losing 10LBS in a SHORT amount of time is absurdly hard, but... what about soda/sodium? what?
*if she consumes a lot now and goes cold turkey so she loses that water weight
that is not really weight loss….water weight loss does not equal fat loss …just stop, seriously.-1 -
I am aware that is not fat loss. I do know that it nudges the scale, which is what OP is asking for. It's not going to be 10 pounds, but it's there.0
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It does seem that way but it's been fairly well studied and people doing ADF and not restricting on their 'feast days' tend to eat about 110% of their maintenance calories and that's all they want. So they don't binge. They also don't find the modified fast days difficult after an initial adjustment period. So it's like only dieting every other day.LilyOfTheValley008 wrote: »Still don't understand why people would subject themselves to intermittent fasting instead of a consistent calorie deficit.
I don't have any experience with the IF method myself, but it definitely seems like a diet which could easily spiral someone out of control and lead to binges. But if you'd like to give it a go, it's your decision end of the day
I also find it helped me reacquaint myself with true hunger and fullness sensations and to be more sensitive to portion size and food choices overall.
There are also valid health reasons for choosing it over a stable daily deficit. Studies have found it preserves more lean mass than daily dieting and leads to improvements in overall health. There is evidence that it can help prevent diabetes, dementia, cardiovascular disease and cancer.
They do recommend you not try it if you have a history of eating disorders.
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obscuremusicreference wrote: »I am aware that is not fat loss. I do know that it nudges the scale, which is what OP is asking for. It's not going to be 10 pounds, but it's there.
OP wants to lose ten pounds of fat, not ten pounds of water weight….
what is the point of losing ten pounds of water weight, if you just gain it back the next week?0 -
Citations for peer reviewed studies, please.WalkingAlong wrote: »LilyOfTheValley008 wrote: »Still don't understand why people would subject themselves to intermittent fasting instead of a consistent calorie deficit.
I don't have any experience with the IF method myself, but it definitely seems like a diet which could easily spiral someone out of control and lead to binges. But if you'd like to give it a go, it's your decision end of the day
There are also valid health reasons for choosing it over a stable daily deficit. Studies have found it preserves more lean mass than daily dieting and leads to improvements in overall health. There is evidence that it can help prevent diabetes, dementia, cardiovascular disease and cancer.
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The books listed above cite the studies. Or do a google search on 'varady and modified fasting'. Mosley's or Johnson's web sites might have some info, Mosley's BBC special probably does, too. Or read up on CRON or longevity and fasting.
Citations for peer reviewed studies, please.WalkingAlong wrote: »LilyOfTheValley008 wrote: »Still don't understand why people would subject themselves to intermittent fasting instead of a consistent calorie deficit.
I don't have any experience with the IF method myself, but it definitely seems like a diet which could easily spiral someone out of control and lead to binges. But if you'd like to give it a go, it's your decision end of the day
There are also valid health reasons for choosing it over a stable daily deficit. Studies have found it preserves more lean mass than daily dieting and leads to improvements in overall health. There is evidence that it can help prevent diabetes, dementia, cardiovascular disease and cancer.
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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »Brad Pilon (Eat Stop Eat), Dr Krista Varady (Every Other Day Diet) and Dr Johnson (UpDayDownDay) all think ADF is a good idea but prepare yourself for a s--- storm of comments from people who freak out at the thought of alternate day fasting or any fasting at all!
Personally I did the 5:2 version of intermittent fasting (Dr Michael Mosley - The Fast Diet) when I lost weight and am successfully maintaining on a 6:1 eating pattern, one day a week at 600 cals, 6 days at a slight surplus.
Suggest you do plenty of research and rather than try to design your own plan follow one that has been properly designed and trialled.
My concern would be you wanting to lose 10lbs so rapidly, unlikely to be a good idea. Much better IMHO to lose the last 10lbs slowly.
^^this^^ OP this poster has had success with this method; grab one or all 3 books and yes do the research. And since I'm a turtle, remember, slow and steady wins the race
I've always loved your moniker!
awww shucks...thanks ma'am. Slow weight loss = long term potential success. Slow runners AKA 'The Hobblers Club". The Hobblers Club mantra- "Go out slow and room to grow, go out fast and you can't last".
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