Looking for clean eaters
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sharitapita wrote: »
This is why you aren't losing weight.
Eating healthy won't magically shed the pounds. Weight loss comes from a caloric deficit. You must be in a deficit to lose weight. If you are not weighing your food with a food scale, you are eating more than you think you are. A food scale is a necessity for weight loss.
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What I'm doing differently is that I am not eating such that I'm not hungry. I have had to cut my food intake the the point of my being hungry a lot and being ok with it. Being hungry means it's working. If I eat until satisfied...even if it's all "healthy" foods it's too much for me. I'll either stagnate or gain. Can't do it anymore.0
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What I'm doing differently is that I am not eating such that I'm not hungry. I have had to cut my food intake the the point of my being hungry a lot and being ok with it. Being hungry means it's working. If I eat until satisfied...even if it's all "healthy" foods it's too much for me. I'll either stagnate or gain. Can't do it anymore.
"Being hungry means it's working," is an incredibly unhealthy mental attitude. I lost 60 pounds never feeling hungry.0 -
A food scale is a necessity for weight loss.
Its a higly valuable tool and especially valuable if theres a stall, but its not a necessity.0 -
LoneWolfRunner wrote: »Weighing food seems rather tedious. Seems easier to exercise everyday and not eat back your calories.
If I didn't weigh my food I would probably still be around 250 pounds (the weight I was when I started to use MFP & weigh my food).
Did you ever hear the saying that it's hard to out exercise a bad diet? I don't mean bad by eating what some consider to be bad food (pizza, burgers, ice cream, fries, etc.), but rather thinking with exercise they can eat whatever they want all the time.
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sharitapita wrote: »I have lost about 40 pounds, but have been hovering around this number for about 10 months now.
Did you taper off? Have you been adjusting your calories as you lose?
I think there can be a couple of major reasons why this happens (based on personal experience). One is that you start out super motivated and count extra carefully and aren't tempted to go beyond your calories at all, but as time goes on that wears off, and--possibly even more significant--you start feeling pretty good in your new body and don't feel that it's quite as important to get that loss every week.
The other is simply that as you lose you need fewer calories, but people forget to adjust or hope they don't really need to.
I've been running into these a little now as I'm getting close to my goal and also have been doing this for a while. I'm still losing and just working with a smaller deficit and a focus on exercise and doing what I can sustain at maintenance, but it means there's a narrower margin for sure and you have to count more carefully if you are relying on counting.I have come to believe that processed sugar and carbs may be to blame. I eat pretty healthy, but have a sweet tooth. I thought allowing myself a treat a day within my calories wouldn't hinder my weight loss, but I think that may be the problem.
Others have said this, but if you mean you are eating at a deficit and not losing because of what you eat, I doubt it. It doesn't make scientific sense. If you mean these might be reasons you have having trouble counting accurately or going over what your calories should be, quite possible. I think people vary in what works for them, but I do find that cutting back on carbs or sweets can be helpful for me if I feel like I'm getting lax and lazy with the counting and compliance. This is in part because for me--although not for everyone--these tend to be the easiest calories to cut. (It's worked well this week, for example, as I substitute extra veggies for starch at dinner and also save some time cooking.)0 -
I don't know... I always could out exercise my eating. Granted now that I'm 57 I have to watch it more carefully, but I never had to even consider getting to the point of measuring food... but I suppose everyone has to find what works for them. If I feel I have eaten a little too much for a while, I just jack up my running for a week or two and it's all good...0
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Okay, crazy long even for me, so I broke this up. Feel free to ignore this part if it doesn't interest you:I have some great friends on MFP who are supportive and active. I get discouraged when I see their continued weight loss and they aren't eating nearly as healthy as I am, so I'm looking for other users who eat clean to help motivate me and to exchange tips and recipes with.
I'm not sure why it would bother you that they lose while not eating so healthy (as you define it), as you can lose weight eating any diet so long as it includes a deficit. I personally find it much easier to keep a deficit when I eat healthy (as I define it--you can look at my diary which is open and decide what you think, as I'm sure there are things I eat that you would disapprove of and probably things you eat that wouldn't be my cuppa, since people are different). I also find it important to eat in a way I enjoy, and I enjoy eating lots of veggies, cooking from whole foods, blah, blah, and just kind of feel like if others like different things (or a different mix), that's them.
I do enjoy talking about what's worked and not and exchanging ideas about eating healthy and so on, and contrary to what was suggested earlier in this thread I think a lot of posters around here try to eat generally well and care about nutrition. We just all have somewhat different ideas about what that means--and I don't mean Twinkies 24/7 or whatever. That's why it frustrates me when people are told that if they care about nutrition they have to go off to a special club of people who self-identify as "clean eaters," whatever that means.
But that aside, I think trying to eat healthier is great, although it kind of sounds like you might have been eating pretty healthy even before--am I wrong? (Not saying not to make the change, as if it's something you wish to try, I'm in favor.)
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What I'm doing differently is that I am not eating such that I'm not hungry. I have had to cut my food intake the the point of my being hungry a lot and being ok with it. Being hungry means it's working. If I eat until satisfied...even if it's all "healthy" foods it's too much for me. I'll either stagnate or gain. Can't do it anymore.
Eating healthier has actually helped many people because if you are eating high dietary fiber foods you are sated but with a much lower calorie count for the day. If you are hungry during the day eat a sweet potato, I physically can't eat two sweet potatoes in a day. I would feel like I was going to explode.0 -
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sheepotato wrote: »What I'm doing differently is that I am not eating such that I'm not hungry. I have had to cut my food intake the the point of my being hungry a lot and being ok with it. Being hungry means it's working. If I eat until satisfied...even if it's all "healthy" foods it's too much for me. I'll either stagnate or gain. Can't do it anymore.
Eating healthier has actually helped many people because if you are eating high dietary fiber foods you are sated but with a much lower calorie count for the day. If you are hungry during the day eat a sweet potato, I physically can't eat two sweet potatoes in a day. I would feel like I was going to explode.
I have the world's biggest sweet potatoes at the moment. (Okay, not really, but they are ridiculously huge--I think about 500 grams.) So I definitely could not eat more than one, but they'd have a ton of calories.
That said, I also might not be able to eat anything else all day. ;-)0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »sheepotato wrote: »What I'm doing differently is that I am not eating such that I'm not hungry. I have had to cut my food intake the the point of my being hungry a lot and being ok with it. Being hungry means it's working. If I eat until satisfied...even if it's all "healthy" foods it's too much for me. I'll either stagnate or gain. Can't do it anymore.
Eating healthier has actually helped many people because if you are eating high dietary fiber foods you are sated but with a much lower calorie count for the day. If you are hungry during the day eat a sweet potato, I physically can't eat two sweet potatoes in a day. I would feel like I was going to explode.
I have the world's biggest sweet potatoes at the moment. (Okay, not really, but they are ridiculously huge--I think about 500 grams.) So I definitely could not eat more than one, but they'd have a ton of calories.
That said, I also might not be able to eat anything else all day. ;-)
Yeah that's sort of what I meant, I when I ate half a butternut squash (40 calories per 100g) first I could never finish the rest of my dinner. It helped me when I had a large calorie deficit. I guess sweet potatoes (86 calories per 100g) were not the best example but I usually only have half of one with a meal because they make me super full.
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »
You can estimate although thats a less accurate way, it can still be ok for some.
If you are actually burning more than you consume, then the other sort of scales will tell you or a tape measure will show you where it counts that you are in deficit.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »If you're interested in eating healthy, and losing weight, GREAT!
Ask your questions here:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/133-clean-eating-group
folks here hate the phrase "clean eating", and will derail most any thread that talks about it.
The folks in that group can answer your questions in an educational way.
Tell them you're not losing. They'll suggest many of the same things folks here are: you're eating too many calories etc. But they'll do it while considering your goal to eat healthier foods.
Best of luck.
Right, because only people who self-identify as "clean eaters" and who think the essence of eating healthy is eliminating whatever it is they think is "unclean" are interested in eating healthy and exchanging support for doing that. So get away from the dirty main forum as fast as possible and don't interact with people around here.
Fabulous!
And some wonder why the clean eating stuff annoys people.
No. Because invariably every "clean eating" thread devolves into trolling nonsense.0 -
Well, maybe someday we can talk about healthy eating or nutrition without going on about clean and unclean and then that won't happen (although I suspect you and I disagree about what's "trolling" and what is an effort to make a point or a serious argument, as I always try to do).
This has nothing to do with the OP here, though. I understand how people pick up the term and use it casually. What I don't understand is the desire to brand oneself with the label and to seek discussions only with other self-proclaimed "clean eaters."
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »sharitapita wrote: »
This is why you aren't losing weight.
Eating healthy won't magically shed the pounds. Weight loss comes from a caloric deficit. You must be in a deficit to lose weight. If you are not weighing your food with a food scale, you are eating more than you think you are. A food scale is a necessity for weight loss.
That's not true at all ..... I currently eat near 3000 cals and still losing body fat so work that 1 out ..... It's all about a routine and eating the right foods ....0 -
Parkes1993 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »sharitapita wrote: »
This is why you aren't losing weight.
Eating healthy won't magically shed the pounds. Weight loss comes from a caloric deficit. You must be in a deficit to lose weight. If you are not weighing your food with a food scale, you are eating more than you think you are. A food scale is a necessity for weight loss.
That's not true at all ..... I currently eat near 3000 cals and still losing body fat so work that 1 out ..... It's all about a routine and eating the right foods ....
work it out you say
OK
if you are eating near 3000 calories and losing body fat then your TDEE is higher than 3000 calories
do I get a gold star?0 -
Good sleep helps weight loss and general health. You are posting after 1 a.m.! Good luck Sharitapita.0
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Parkes1993 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »sharitapita wrote: »
This is why you aren't losing weight.
Eating healthy won't magically shed the pounds. Weight loss comes from a caloric deficit. You must be in a deficit to lose weight. If you are not weighing your food with a food scale, you are eating more than you think you are. A food scale is a necessity for weight loss.
That's not true at all ..... I currently eat near 3000 cals and still losing body fat so work that 1 out ..... It's all about a routine and eating the right foods ....
So what are you age height and weight stats? How much do you work out each week? Are you claiming to eat more than you burn, but still losing weight?0 -
Parkes1993 wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »sharitapita wrote: »
This is why you aren't losing weight.
Eating healthy won't magically shed the pounds. Weight loss comes from a caloric deficit. You must be in a deficit to lose weight. If you are not weighing your food with a food scale, you are eating more than you think you are. A food scale is a necessity for weight loss.
That's not true at all ..... I currently eat near 3000 cals and still losing body fat so work that 1 out ..... It's all about a routine and eating the right foods ....
Are you trying to say that if I eat 3000 cals of the right foods I would still lose?
OP if you aren't losing you aren't in a deficit, this can be because of over estimating your burns, under estimating your intake which without a food scale is probably the case. Can't see your diary to see your logging.
But just like you said your friends are still losing no matter what they eat because they are in a deficit. When I first started I lost my first 50 lbs without using a scale, as I lost more I had to become more accurate as the margin of error was decreased. I worked on improving my logging and more accurately measuring my portions.0 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »If you're interested in eating healthy, and losing weight, GREAT!
Ask your questions here:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/133-clean-eating-group
folks here hate the phrase "clean eating", and will derail most any thread that talks about it.
The folks in that group can answer your questions in an educational way.
Tell them you're not losing. They'll suggest many of the same things folks here are: you're eating too many calories etc. But they'll do it while considering your goal to eat healthier foods.
Best of luck.
Right, because only people who self-identify as "clean eaters" and who think the essence of eating healthy is eliminating whatever it is they think is "unclean" are interested in eating healthy and exchanging support for doing that. So get away from the dirty main forum as fast as possible and don't interact with people around here.
Fabulous!
And some wonder why the clean eating stuff annoys people.
No. Because invariably every "clean eating" thread devolves into trolling nonsense.
thats right ..if you don't agree with ole Sabine you are a "troll" ….totally legit...0 -
OP - your problem has been identified…you are not losing weight because you do not weigh all of your foods which is leading to incorrect calorie estimation . I would suggest getting a food scale and weighing, measuring, logging everything for a month and see what happens…
Eating clean has nothing to do with it. You can eat clean, over eat, and you will continue to gain.0
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