All Calories Are Not Created Equally
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hollydubs85 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »Time for the gifs?
But it's not moving
Really? It is for me. :ohwell:
No
Just looks like a stand still potato0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »Time for the gifs?
But it's not moving
Really? It is for me. :ohwell:
No
Just looks like a stand still potato
It is not moving for me either.
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LolBroScience wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »Time for the gifs?
But it's not moving
Really? It is for me. :ohwell:
No
Just looks like a stand still potato
He's supposed to be dancing. Here's a better one anyway.
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hollydubs85 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »Time for the gifs?
But it's not moving
Really? It is for me. :ohwell:
No
Just looks like a stand still potato
He's supposed to be dancing. Here's a better one anyway.
in for the POtatoes! but wait?!?!! Are they all the same? Or because their shapes are different maybe the calories are off. Perhaps the left potatoe calories are different from the other potatoes...
Thank you for this highlight to my Monday!!0 -
LOL....I think I am just here to read and look at the gifs today.hollydubs85 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »Time for the gifs?
But it's not moving
Really? It is for me. :ohwell:
No
Just looks like a stand still potato
He's supposed to be dancing. Here's a better one anyway.
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In for dancing potatoes, eternal damnation for bacon and nutella, strawmen and semantics...0
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davidrod001 wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »Time for the gifs?
But it's not moving
Really? It is for me. :ohwell:
No
Just looks like a stand still potato
He's supposed to be dancing. Here's a better one anyway.
in for the POtatoes! but wait?!?!! Are they all the same? Or because their shapes are different maybe the calories are off. Perhaps the left potatoe calories are different from the other potatoes...
Thank you for this highlight to my Monday!!
I'm sure their calories are different so be sure to weigh them first.
You're welcome.0 -
hollydubs85 wrote: »davidrod001 wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »Time for the gifs?
But it's not moving
Really? It is for me. :ohwell:
No
Just looks like a stand still potato
He's supposed to be dancing. Here's a better one anyway.
in for the POtatoes! but wait?!?!! Are they all the same? Or because their shapes are different maybe the calories are off. Perhaps the left potatoe calories are different from the other potatoes...
Thank you for this highlight to my Monday!!
I'm sure their calories are different so be sure to weigh them first.
You're welcome.
Wait... is it the calories, or how they are digested? It's a B&W gif, so I can't tell if they are regular potatoes or sweet potatoes. Heck, they could be pears (esp that one on the left) staging as potatoes. Now WTF do I do???0 -
Just another piece of propaganda....0
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It's a magazine that has so many pages to fill with content on a monthly basis. There is bound to be some regurgitation and some massaging of details in order to keep the subscribers happily reading.
I get Parents magazine and I can't tell you how redundant those articles are on a monthly basis... wait, what? I'm supposed to limit my kids screen time and feed them wholesome balanced meals, all while encouraging them to be active and discouraging them from bullying other kids? Wow. That's a lot to take in. I better read those same exact articles again next month, maybe then it will sink in since the craft section will be filled with advice on how to make reindeer out of foot prints instead of hand print turkeys or foot print ghosts.0 -
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SGM_Adonis wrote: »1 Calorie = 4.18400 joules
(1 calorie) + (1 calorie) = 8.36800 joules.
(1 Kale Calorie) + (1 Mashed Cauliflower Calorie) = You're going to heaven.
(1 Bacon Calorie) + (1 Nutella Calorie) = Burn in hell for eternity.
Hell it is. I'm a warm-weather kind of gal ;P
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BlackTimber wrote: »An inch does not equal an inch? A calorie is a measure. As far as weight loss, a calorie IS a calorie. If you talk about health, it is a different story
You're right. It is a unit of measure. The confusion comes in when you follow the digestion of the different Macro components. Different Macro components get digested differently. Some use more of the available food calories for the digestion process than others. IMO, that fact gets a bit overblown by some.
The only thing "overblown" about that is that people seem to think it has any kind of actual effect on metabolism. Yes, macros use different amounts of calories to digest, but the variation is miniscule. The difference between digesting a carb vs digesting a protein is roughly 0.1 calories, and the different between digesting protein and fat is about 0.22 calories. The thermic effect of food is roughly 10% of your (already calculated) maintenance calories, and no matter how you break up your macro ratios, it's always within a couple dozen calories. The BMR calculation alone has a greater margin of error than the effect on TEF by altering your diet.
A few examples (based on 2000 calorie intake:)
50/20/30(c/p/f) = 254 calories for TEF
20/30/50(c/p/f) = 218 calories for TEF
40/30/30(c/p/f) = 270 calories for TEF
It's just not a big enough difference to have any practical impact on weight loss.0 -
The calories you consume will influence your satiety, energy levels (pertaining especially to blood glucose), and long-term health. Will you lose weight eating in a deficit while consuming only junk? Sure. Are you going to feel like crap and possibly suffer health issues in the long-term? Yes. All calories are not created equally.
The horse is dead. Beating it more doesn't make it MORE dead.
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_Terrapin_ wrote: »The calories you consume will influence your satiety, energy levels (pertaining especially to blood glucose), and long-term health. Will you lose weight eating in a deficit while consuming only junk? Sure. Are you going to feel like crap and possibly suffer health issues in the long-term? Yes. All calories are not created equally.
The horse is dead. Beating it more doesn't make it MORE dead.
Clearly many disagree with you there.
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_Terrapin_ wrote: »The calories you consume will influence your satiety, energy levels (pertaining especially to blood glucose), and long-term health. Will you lose weight eating in a deficit while consuming only junk? Sure. Are you going to feel like crap and possibly suffer health issues in the long-term? Yes. All calories are not created equally.
The horse is dead. Beating it more doesn't make it MORE dead.
But it does burn more calories...0 -
So… after reading the first page, let me know if I am correct in assuming this is how the discussion is going:
1) A calorie is not a calorie because some are more satiating.
2) You are wrong. A calorie is a calorie. You can eat junk food only and still lose weight.
3) Yes but in terms of nutrition, energy and satiety, what you eat matters.
4) But we are not talking bout nutrition, we are talking about weight loss only.
Bonus arguments: Sugar is evil. Something about ketones.
I also saw something about potatoes that looked cool, though I find there is a noticeable lack of jesus seeds.
Here are some cookies.
By the way, the article itself really isn't that bad. I agree with lemurcat's sentiment that it does not emphasise CICO enough, but overall it is saying reasonable information. Some of the stuff may sound obvious to long-term users of MFP, but still could be useful to someone who just embarked on a nutrition journey.0 -
late to the party but innnnnnnnnnnnn…
OP lets break it down for you into cliffs…
calorie deficit - CICO - for weight loss
macro and micro nutrient composition for body composition and overall health …
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SGM_Adonis wrote: »1 Calorie = 4.18400 joules
(1 calorie) + (1 calorie) = 8.36800 joules.
(1 Kale Calorie) + (1 Mashed Cauliflower Calorie) = You're going to heaven.
(1 Bacon Calorie) + (1 Nutella Calorie) = Burn in hell for eternity.
you forgot that sugar is satan ...0 -
_Terrapin_ wrote: »The calories you consume will influence your satiety, energy levels (pertaining especially to blood glucose), and long-term health. Will you lose weight eating in a deficit while consuming only junk? Sure. Are you going to feel like crap and possibly suffer health issues in the long-term? Yes. All calories are not created equally.
The horse is dead. Beating it more doesn't make it MORE dead.
zombies are pretty popular these days...0 -
GingerbreadCandy wrote: »So… after reading the first page, let me know if I am correct in assuming this is how the discussion is going:
1) A calorie is not a calorie because some are more satiating.
2) You are wrong. A calorie is a calorie. You can eat junk food only and still lose weight.
3) Yes but in terms of nutrition, energy and satiety, what you eat matters.
4) But we are not talking bout nutrition, we are talking about weight loss only.
Bonus arguments: Sugar is evil. Something about ketones.
I also saw something about potatoes that looked cool, though I find there is a noticeable lack of jesus seeds.
Here are some cookies.
By the way, the article itself really isn't that bad. I agree with lemurcat's sentiment that it does not emphasise CICO enough, but overall it is saying reasonable information. Some of the stuff may sound obvious to long-term users of MFP, but still could be useful to someone who just embarked on a nutrition journey.
Well said.
I find it fairly easy to adhere to my calorie goals if I am eating lots of vegetables, and exceedingly difficult if I am indulging in treats. So not just in terms of overall nutrition, but in terms of weight loss, all calories aren't equal in my eyes.
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goldthistime wrote: »GingerbreadCandy wrote: »So… after reading the first page, let me know if I am correct in assuming this is how the discussion is going:
1) A calorie is not a calorie because some are more satiating.
2) You are wrong. A calorie is a calorie. You can eat junk food only and still lose weight.
3) Yes but in terms of nutrition, energy and satiety, what you eat matters.
4) But we are not talking bout nutrition, we are talking about weight loss only.
Bonus arguments: Sugar is evil. Something about ketones.
I also saw something about potatoes that looked cool, though I find there is a noticeable lack of jesus seeds.
Here are some cookies.
By the way, the article itself really isn't that bad. I agree with lemurcat's sentiment that it does not emphasise CICO enough, but overall it is saying reasonable information. Some of the stuff may sound obvious to long-term users of MFP, but still could be useful to someone who just embarked on a nutrition journey.
Well said.
I find it fairly easy to adhere to my calorie goals if I am eating lots of vegetables, and exceedingly difficult if I am indulging in treats. So not just in terms of overall nutrition, but in terms of weight loss, all calories aren't equal in my eyes.
thankfully, personal opinion does not trump fact….0 -
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goldthistime wrote: »GingerbreadCandy wrote: »So… after reading the first page, let me know if I am correct in assuming this is how the discussion is going:
1) A calorie is not a calorie because some are more satiating.
2) You are wrong. A calorie is a calorie. You can eat junk food only and still lose weight.
3) Yes but in terms of nutrition, energy and satiety, what you eat matters.
4) But we are not talking bout nutrition, we are talking about weight loss only.
Bonus arguments: Sugar is evil. Something about ketones.
I also saw something about potatoes that looked cool, though I find there is a noticeable lack of jesus seeds.
Here are some cookies.
By the way, the article itself really isn't that bad. I agree with lemurcat's sentiment that it does not emphasise CICO enough, but overall it is saying reasonable information. Some of the stuff may sound obvious to long-term users of MFP, but still could be useful to someone who just embarked on a nutrition journey.
Well said.
I find it fairly easy to adhere to my calorie goals if I am eating lots of vegetables, and exceedingly difficult if I am indulging in treats. So not just in terms of overall nutrition, but in terms of weight loss, all calories aren't equal in my eyes.
Can you elaborate?
I get the argument that limiting treats can make you feel deprived and eliminating them entirely is unsustainable, but it is so much easier for me to stay disciplined (as in eating under goal) if I eat certain foods. Certain calories if you like. More vegetables and less treats is the easiest way for me. More protein helps too if I can manage it.
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SGM_Adonis wrote: »1 Calorie = 4.18400 joules
(1 calorie) + (1 calorie) = 8.36800 joules.
(1 Kale Calorie) + (1 Mashed Cauliflower Calorie) = You're going to heaven.
(1 Bacon Calorie) + (1 Nutella Calorie) = Burn in hell for eternity.
you forgot that sugar is satan ...
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