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  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    edited December 2014
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    Moral - if she is willing to hook up with me on the first 3 dates I will never make her my gf - a friend yes but not wifey material and I will only make a lady my gf if I am serious at seeing where things are going
    I laughed. If there hasn't been mutual tire kicking by date two, there is no date three. Friendzone that gal and moveon.org.
  • veronakings
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  • raysputin
    raysputin Posts: 142 Member
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    Why do we humans insist on interfering with a proven product? Millions of years of evolution have shaped the bodies we have today. I understand why we are basically hairless but don't understand why there are remnants of hair remaining or why that hair has differing degrees of coarseness but, if it's good enough for millions of years of natural selection, it is good enough for me. Humanity needs to stop denying its physicality and get on with making the most of the physical and mental attributes that we are so lucky to have.
  • veronakings
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    dbmata wrote: »
    I laughed. If there hasn't been mutual tired kicking by date two, there is no date three. Friendzone that gal and moveon.org.

    hahah i'm sorry but, right? this poor little guy. :( hahah like proving that age does matter?
  • blktngldhrt
    blktngldhrt Posts: 1,053 Member
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    Feminism just means that I can shave or not shave, wear whatever kind of skin products and shoes I prefer, and get paid the same as my coworkers who do the same job...or I can choose to stay home and raise kids if that's what I want, without some group of feminazis calling me a sellout. I don't get why people have to be so judgmental over something as mundane as body hair.

    The double standard is idiotic. If armpit hair is "gross" or "smelly" on a woman, then obviously it is on a man, too. (In fact, in my experience, it's usually smellier on a man, as men on average seem to sweat more.) Having a preference is one thing, but having your attraction to a woman suddenly evaporate just because you find she doesn't enjoy torturing her skin with a razor is just stupid. Hopefully you're upfront about it so she can know she dodged a bullet. If you're that hung up on body hair, then what other absurd, trite little hangups might you have?

    well I can't speak for all males, but over the past two years, excluding the past few months with my current gf - I have dated well over 6-8 new women a month so I have seen it all, various races, age groups, different personality types (not saying I slept with many of them, strictly entertained them all on at least 1 date)- but the following were big to me:

    mannerisms - she better behave like a lady, I'm not trying to date #lightboyversion
    Confidence - if she lacks it then she is a loser.
    Witty - if she can't crack a joke she is a boring date.
    Romantic - candles and poems better go far.
    Healthy - I'm not ganna be taking some addict cig smoker out -
    Gracious - has to be quick to forgive dating me
    assumption of good will - she must assume I'm 'not like other guys'
    Good in bed - obviously she doesn't need to be a porn star, but she needs to either be good or willing to do anything I lead into.
    sexy
    Moral - if she is willing to hook up with me on the first 3 dates I will never make her my gf - a friend yes but not wifey material and I will only make a lady my gf if I am serious at seeing where things are going
    Quick to laugh - I am full of jokes, she needs to be quick in conversation
    Willing to stand up for herself - I don't like dating Ms. no confidence head nodding to everything - if she disagrees and has an opinion I love to hear it out
    Speaks multiple languages - a very very good and sexy thing
    Educated - needs to have at the very least a bachelors degree
    High IQ - willing to keep up in abstract conversation
    Loyal - having some integrity
    Trusting - has to trust I'm not sleeping with every girl that tries to sleep with me
    Fashion expert - I dress incredibly well, she doesn't need to be rocking only designer brands- but she does need to dress phenomenal
    obviously groomed
    Long hair - I've dumped women for having haircuts I'm not fond of - and if it isn't long then it looks masculine and bad period.
    Silly - she has to be willing to tease me and get silly and goofy
    Parents are together - I won't date a chick with daddy issues
    No emotional baggage - I took a class from emory university and am well aware that 1/5 or 1/6 women has been sexually assaulted - that is ok - however if they are still hurting and not over it all I don't have time to deal with it - 1 bad case was enough
    Mature - being modest - but sexy
    a role model - I like seeing her friends and family look up to her



    Best of luck with that. I was going to say more but it's unnecessary.
  • maddyk91
    maddyk91 Posts: 193 Member
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    I LAUGHED SO MUCH. MY FACE EXACTLY
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
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    dbmata wrote: »
    I laughed. If there hasn't been mutual tired kicking by date two, there is no date three. Friendzone that gal and moveon.org.

    hahah i'm sorry but, right? this poor little guy. :( hahah like proving that age does matter?
    I re-read it... mutual tired kicking? WTF? lol.

    TIRE kicking. hahaha.
  • veronakings
    veronakings Posts: 116
    edited December 2014
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    dbmata wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    I laughed. If there hasn't been mutual tired kicking by date two, there is no date three. Friendzone that gal and moveon.org.

    hahah i'm sorry but, right? this poor little guy. :( hahah like proving that age does matter?
    I re-read it... mutual tired kicking? WTF? lol.

    TIRE kicking. hahaha.

    ha yeah i was a little confused by that but just figured you meant like "exhausted from all the doing it"
  • swole_elsa
    swole_elsa Posts: 247 Member
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    ... over the past two years, excluding the past few months with my current gf - I have dated well over 6-8 new women a month

    And then there's me lmfao
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  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
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    Feminism just means that I can shave or not shave, wear whatever kind of skin products and shoes I prefer, and get paid the same as my coworkers who do the same job...or I can choose to stay home and raise kids if that's what I want, without some group of feminazis calling me a sellout. I don't get why people have to be so judgmental over something as mundane as body hair.

    The double standard is idiotic. If armpit hair is "gross" or "smelly" on a woman, then obviously it is on a man, too. (In fact, in my experience, it's usually smellier on a man, as men on average seem to sweat more.) Having a preference is one thing, but having your attraction to a woman suddenly evaporate just because you find she doesn't enjoy torturing her skin with a razor is just stupid. Hopefully you're upfront about it so she can know she dodged a bullet. If you're that hung up on body hair, then what other absurd, trite little hangups might you have?

    well I can't speak for all males, but over the past two years, excluding the past few months with my current gf - I have dated well over 6-8 new women a month so I have seen it all, various races, age groups, different personality types (not saying I slept with many of them, strictly entertained them all on at least 1 date)- but the following were big to me:

    mannerisms - she better behave like a lady, I'm not trying to date #lightboyversion
    Confidence - if she lacks it then she is a loser.
    Witty - if she can't crack a joke she is a boring date.
    Romantic - candles and poems better go far.
    Healthy - I'm not ganna be taking some addict cig smoker out -
    Gracious - has to be quick to forgive dating me
    assumption of good will - she must assume I'm 'not like other guys'
    Good in bed - obviously she doesn't need to be a porn star, but she needs to either be good or willing to do anything I lead into.
    sexy
    Moral - if she is willing to hook up with me on the first 3 dates I will never make her my gf - a friend yes but not wifey material and I will only make a lady my gf if I am serious at seeing where things are going
    Quick to laugh - I am full of jokes, she needs to be quick in conversation
    Willing to stand up for herself - I don't like dating Ms. no confidence head nodding to everything - if she disagrees and has an opinion I love to hear it out
    Speaks multiple languages - a very very good and sexy thing
    Educated - needs to have at the very least a bachelors degree
    High IQ - willing to keep up in abstract conversation
    Loyal - having some integrity
    Trusting - has to trust I'm not sleeping with every girl that tries to sleep with me
    Fashion expert - I dress incredibly well, she doesn't need to be rocking only designer brands- but she does need to dress phenomenal
    obviously groomed
    Long hair - I've dumped women for having haircuts I'm not fond of - and if it isn't long then it looks masculine and bad period.
    Silly - she has to be willing to tease me and get silly and goofy
    Parents are together - I won't date a chick with daddy issues
    No emotional baggage - I took a class from emory university and am well aware that 1/5 or 1/6 women has been sexually assaulted - that is ok - however if they are still hurting and not over it all I don't have time to deal with it - 1 bad case was enough
    Mature - being modest - but sexy
    a role model - I like seeing her friends and family look up to her



    I don't remember how many dates my love and I went on before we were dancin' in the sheets. Why? Because we weren't counting to compare with some arbitrary rule we made up.

    But you know what? I fully approve of this list AS LONG AS you hold yourself to the same standards. But I have a feeling that just having such a list indicates the likelihood of baggage.

    In other words, this looks like a list of your red flags.

  • PurringMyrrh
    PurringMyrrh Posts: 5,276 Member
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    Threads like this are the best.

    "I don't care what anyone thinks...but I'll type six paragraph replys assuming they care what I think!"

    "It doesn't affect me! I'm not upset! Wait, here, let me respond 16 more times and reiterate that fact while I obviously get more perturbed with each post."
  • kinkyslinky16
    kinkyslinky16 Posts: 1,469 Member
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    Just trying to revive this. Don't let it die!
  • BigDoug13
    BigDoug13 Posts: 646 Member
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    I like shaven myself...nothing like soft smooth legs!
  • mykaylis
    mykaylis Posts: 320 Member
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    ksy1969 wrote: »
    seriously. it's so obnoxious that a discussion between women about women has become, as usual, about men's opinion of women's bodies. like, ick, knock it off.

    Go back and read the original post. The poster was female but she said she wants peoples opinions of woman not shaving. People are men and women. She did not limit the discussion to female opinions only. So men's opinion of the women's body was part of the discussion from the start with an invite from the original poster.

    when you saw it was a bunch of women supporting each other and building each other up, did you just feel like you couldn't stand for it and just had to butt in with your male opinion? i mean obv anyone can say whatever they want, but maybe like think about tact? respect?

    Actually, I saw a bunch of women tearing each other down for their shaving preferences and using words like "gross" in a judgmental way. There's a big difference between "I like to shave because I feel gross when I don't." and "I like to shave and other women who don't are gross."

    that last line is genius. my sister waxes everything off below her eyebrows. power to her. i don't shave anything, i simply trim my pits, except for certain occasions (a wedding for example) because it causes a lot of skin irritation in part due to a severe case of keratosis pilaris. i don't like being told i'm gross because i have a skin condition i can't help. and, my husband doesn't shave anything but his head, so as much as i might find his over-hairy pits and back unappealing, i respect his right to do what he wants with his own body. same goes for everyone.
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
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    Well I shave my own pits, because I think armpit hair is nasty, so. Bacteria, warm and humid conditions. Ick.

    As for legs - I prefer them smooth; makes certain activities more enjoyable. But, it's not something that bothers me per se.
  • jmunn1129
    jmunn1129 Posts: 32 Member
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    dbmata wrote: »
    Hey, so.... how painful is a brazilian? I'm thinking of getting one done.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEKfe2LDc5A

    Boom. Check that out. That's how they are.
  • TheVirgoddess
    TheVirgoddess Posts: 4,535 Member
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    newmeadow wrote: »
    Seriously who shaves anymore or even waxes for that matter?

    It's all about laser hair removal and has been for awhile.

    L-A-S-E-R!

    It's affordable, quick, safe, non invasive and doesn't even hurt that much. Over the course of two years, I had my whole body zapped and that fur has never grown back.

    It's a wonderful thing.

    I'm really considering getting zapped. I can't not shave. I've tried. Body hair doesn't bother me at all, but the feel of it on my body really does. The stubble rubbing makes me so crazy that I've gotten up in the middle of the night to shave so I could get some sleep (it's okay, I know I'm crazy).

    So, what's the ballpark definition of affordable? Like under $5k? Sorry (but only a little) if I'm being too nosy.
  • Laurend224
    Laurend224 Posts: 1,748 Member
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    Threads like this are the best.

    "I don't care what anyone thinks...but I'll type six paragraph replys assuming they care what I think!"

    "It doesn't affect me! I'm not upset! Wait, here, let me respond 16 more times and reiterate that fact while I obviously get more perturbed with each post."

    Hahahahahahahaha!!

  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    edited December 2014
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    Feminism just means that I can shave or not shave, wear whatever kind of skin products and shoes I prefer, and get paid the same as my coworkers who do the same job...or I can choose to stay home and raise kids if that's what I want, without some group of feminazis calling me a sellout. I don't get why people have to be so judgmental over something as mundane as body hair.

    The double standard is idiotic. If armpit hair is "gross" or "smelly" on a woman, then obviously it is on a man, too. (In fact, in my experience, it's usually smellier on a man, as men on average seem to sweat more.) Having a preference is one thing, but having your attraction to a woman suddenly evaporate just because you find she doesn't enjoy torturing her skin with a razor is just stupid. Hopefully you're upfront about it so she can know she dodged a bullet. If you're that hung up on body hair, then what other absurd, trite little hangups might you have?

    well I can't speak for all males, but over the past two years, excluding the past few months with my current gf - I have dated well over 6-8 new women a month so I have seen it all, various races, age groups, different personality types (not saying I slept with many of them, strictly entertained them all on at least 1 date)- but the following were big to me:

    mannerisms - she better behave like a lady, I'm not trying to date #lightboyversion
    Confidence - if she lacks it then she is a loser.
    Witty - if she can't crack a joke she is a boring date.
    Romantic - candles and poems better go far.
    Healthy - I'm not ganna be taking some addict cig smoker out -
    Gracious - has to be quick to forgive dating me
    assumption of good will - she must assume I'm 'not like other guys'
    Good in bed - obviously she doesn't need to be a porn star, but she needs to either be good or willing to do anything I lead into.
    sexy
    Moral - if she is willing to hook up with me on the first 3 dates I will never make her my gf - a friend yes but not wifey material and I will only make a lady my gf if I am serious at seeing where things are going
    Quick to laugh - I am full of jokes, she needs to be quick in conversation
    Willing to stand up for herself - I don't like dating Ms. no confidence head nodding to everything - if she disagrees and has an opinion I love to hear it out
    Speaks multiple languages - a very very good and sexy thing
    Educated - needs to have at the very least a bachelors degree
    High IQ - willing to keep up in abstract conversation
    Loyal - having some integrity
    Trusting - has to trust I'm not sleeping with every girl that tries to sleep with me
    Fashion expert - I dress incredibly well, she doesn't need to be rocking only designer brands- but she does need to dress phenomenal
    obviously groomed
    Long hair - I've dumped women for having haircuts I'm not fond of - and if it isn't long then it looks masculine and bad period.
    Silly - she has to be willing to tease me and get silly and goofy
    Parents are together - I won't date a chick with daddy issues
    No emotional baggage - I took a class from emory university and am well aware that 1/5 or 1/6 women has been sexually assaulted - that is ok - however if they are still hurting and not over it all I don't have time to deal with it - 1 bad case was enough
    Mature - being modest - but sexy
    a role model - I like seeing her friends and family look up to her



    This is the most childish thing I've ever read. Do you really think a woman cares whether you like her haircut? We cut our hair based on what WE like. We don't need a man's approval.

    ETA: If you dump a woman because you don't like her new do, I hope she runs for the hills and never looks back because who wants to be with someone who is that judgmental? Give me a break.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
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    jmunn1129 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    Hey, so.... how painful is a brazilian? I'm thinking of getting one done.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEKfe2LDc5A

    Boom. Check that out. That's how they are.
    Embedded for her pleasure.