Don't know what to do now...
RebeccaChemmy
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So I've just come back from an appointment with a physiotherapist and she basically told me I should probably stop with weights and running. I have some lady problems and when she said that I just cried.
Lifting has been the only thing I've enjoyed in a long time and I just feel so sad! What am I supposed to do now? Apparently things like cycling, swimming and using the cross trainer are all perfectly acceptable but they're also incredibly boring to me. I just don't know what I'm supposed to do. I guess I finally have some sort of incentive to try spin, but I'm not even that psyched about it.
Anyway, I'm just looking for some new suggestions of fun exercise. I've already had to give up judo and now lifting because of this *kitten* inconvenience in my life!
P.S. So sorry about the rant...
Lifting has been the only thing I've enjoyed in a long time and I just feel so sad! What am I supposed to do now? Apparently things like cycling, swimming and using the cross trainer are all perfectly acceptable but they're also incredibly boring to me. I just don't know what I'm supposed to do. I guess I finally have some sort of incentive to try spin, but I'm not even that psyched about it.
Anyway, I'm just looking for some new suggestions of fun exercise. I've already had to give up judo and now lifting because of this *kitten* inconvenience in my life!
P.S. So sorry about the rant...
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Do you have to stop permanently or just until you get your lady problems resolved? Hopefully it is the latter! I tried a Zumba class last night. I was so far out of my comfort zone that I scared to death!!!! It was a very fun and challenging class. Maybe something along those lines would help you not expire from the boredom.0
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mbcaldwell123 wrote: »Do you have to stop permanently or just until you get your lady problems resolved? Hopefully it is the latter! I tried a Zumba class last night. I was so far out of my comfort zone that I scared to death!!!! It was a very fun and challenging class. Maybe something along those lines would help you not expire from the boredom.
Only until it's all sorted out. But given that I've had these problems for 17 years it may still be a while.
Zumba does seem fun, but I'd probably want to do that with friends. It seems like something you sign up to with friends.
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I've been told second opinions are a great thing.0
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RebeccaChemmy wrote: »Zumba does seem fun, but I'd probably want to do that with friends. It seems like something you sign up to with friends.
Make new friends. Zumba people are friendly. ;-)0 -
Well, I'm sorry to hear that. Kind of unusual, to me anyway. It seems odd that you can do cardio-type of exercise but can't lift weights. Then again, I don't know your exact issue and certainly am not trying to pry.
Have you had the same doctor and/or the same diagnosis for those 17 years? I agree with a 2nd opinion or perhaps a different approach to handling it. Either way, I hope you are able to feel better soon!0 -
A quality physio would be able to give you precise details on how long an expected course of treatment is, potential impacts to your life, and should be competent enough to discuss how to modify or adjust current activities in order to continue with them, unless they'd be deleterious in effect to an overall sound structure.
Find that physio.0 -
Well, I'm sorry to hear that. Kind of unusual, to me anyway. It seems odd that you can do cardio-type of exercise but can't lift weights. Then again, I don't know your exact issue and certainly am not trying to pry.
Have you had the same doctor and/or the same diagnosis for those 17 years? I agree with a 2nd opinion or perhaps a different approach to handling it. Either way, I hope you are able to feel better soon!
I think she was getting at doing cardio that doesn't put stress on the pelvis, which was why she was keen to get me to do swimming. Maybe I'll have to, but that doesn't mean I'll enjoy it.
I've had different doctors over the years but the same diagnosis.A quality physio would be able to give you precise details on how long an expected course of treatment is, potential impacts to your life, and should be competent enough to discuss how to modify or adjust current activities in order to continue with them, unless they'd be deleterious in effect to an overall sound structure.
Find that physio.
To be fair to her, she couldn't do an examination because it's my lady week. So far the methods she's tried haven't worked but that doesn't mean she's just giving up. She's figuring out new things to try.
And she said with weights I could go lighter with more reps but when the goal is to get stronger that's not really going to help...
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And she said with weights I could go lighter with more reps but when the goal is to get stronger that's not really going to help...
Maybe but something is better than nothing. Going lighter with more reps won't cause you to lose your muscle at least.
Is it high impact stuff that you can't do? If so then I agree with maybe doing zumba or, if you can, yoga. I've been doing DDP/YRG Yoga (in addition to my lifting and cardio) and it kicks my butt.0 -
RebeccaChemmy wrote: »And she said with weights I could go lighter with more reps but when the goal is to get stronger that's not really going to help...
Let me ask you a question.
If you can do 135# in a lift for 4 reps. However, after training at 135# you can now do 6 reps, have you increased in strength? If your max for that lift was 185#, would you still be at 185#?0 -
I've never heard of any "lady problem" that stops someone from being able to lift and run.
I would get a second or third opinion.0 -
What lady problems do you have that prevents you from lifting, but not certain forms of cardio? I have pelvic problems as well. Permanent SI joint dysfunction and lifting (properly and safely) is the only thing that helps me manage the pain (besides very powerful narcotics).0
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »I've never heard of any "lady problem" that stops someone from being able to lift and run.
I would get a second or third opinion.
Of course I can still do it, I just won't be doing my pelvic floor any favours in the process.DjinnMarie wrote: »What lady problems do you have that prevents you from lifting, but not certain forms of cardio? I have pelvic problems as well. Permanent SI joint dysfunction and lifting (properly and safely) is the only thing that helps me manage the pain (besides very powerful narcotics).
My pelvic floor muscles are incredibly weak but also really tight. I have really bad urinary incontinance at the very old age of 20 and sometimes I can't do simple things like walk down a hill without leaking. Doctors say I am too young for surgery so keep sending me back for physiotherapy, but nothing seems to be working.
If I was 45 and pushed out 3 kids I'd probably just do it anyway because it would be a normal thing to happen to a woman like that, but I'm only 20 and really want to get the problem fixed rather than make it worse.
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RebeccaChemmy wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »I've never heard of any "lady problem" that stops someone from being able to lift and run.
I would get a second or third opinion.
Of course I can still do it, I just won't be doing my pelvic floor any favours in the process.DjinnMarie wrote: »What lady problems do you have that prevents you from lifting, but not certain forms of cardio? I have pelvic problems as well. Permanent SI joint dysfunction and lifting (properly and safely) is the only thing that helps me manage the pain (besides very powerful narcotics).
My pelvic floor muscles are incredibly weak but also really tight. I have really bad urinary incontinance at the very old age of 20 and sometimes I can't do simple things like walk down a hill without leaking. Doctors say I am too young for surgery so keep sending me back for physiotherapy, but nothing seems to be working.
If I was 45 and pushed out 3 kids I'd probably just do it anyway because it would be a normal thing to happen to a woman like that, but I'm only 20 and really want to get the problem fixed rather than make it worse.
Squats (done properly) is one of the best things you can do for your pelvic floor.
I'm 31 and pushed out three kids and don't leak. Thanks squats.
Get a second opinion.0 -
RebeccaChemmy wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »I've never heard of any "lady problem" that stops someone from being able to lift and run.
I would get a second or third opinion.
Of course I can still do it, I just won't be doing my pelvic floor any favours in the process.DjinnMarie wrote: »What lady problems do you have that prevents you from lifting, but not certain forms of cardio? I have pelvic problems as well. Permanent SI joint dysfunction and lifting (properly and safely) is the only thing that helps me manage the pain (besides very powerful narcotics).
My pelvic floor muscles are incredibly weak but also really tight. I have really bad urinary incontinance at the very old age of 20 and sometimes I can't do simple things like walk down a hill without leaking. Doctors say I am too young for surgery so keep sending me back for physiotherapy, but nothing seems to be working.
If I was 45 and pushed out 3 kids I'd probably just do it anyway because it would be a normal thing to happen to a woman like that, but I'm only 20 and really want to get the problem fixed rather than make it worse.
This is a red flag. If a doctor tells you you are too young for surgery, you definitely need to get another opinion. The surgery to fix urinary incontinence is minimally invasive. Most patients I've had who have had the procedure are in and out in the same day. There's absolutely no reason why you cannot have the procedure.
What doctors (speciality) have you seen? Have you seen a urologist or a urogynecologist? If not, you need to ask your PCP to give you a referral.
For many women, the pelvic floor does not work as well as it should. Do you know what the cause is of your pelvic floor disorder and urinary incontinence? The most common causes in women are endometriosis, PID (pelvic inflammatory disease), fibroids, Interstitial cystitis, and colitis.0 -
By the sounds of it rebecca we have the same problem, they think mine is endometriosis and i must admit when i try to lift it kills, I have started doing zumba online at home. x0
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I've been told second opinions are a great thing.
second the second opinion.
also- there is no way zumba is going to work for you if you have a leaking problem that allows you not to lift.
I mean- I get it- bracing causes leakage- even with people who have no problems and slap on a belt it's going to happen... but - zumba involves jumping.
no way lifting is harder on you than that is.
I'd be seeing other professionals- if they can't fix the problem with that they are doing- they need to do something else- and that may mean surgery. Push the issue.0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »This is a red flag. If a doctor tells you you are too young for surgery, you definitely need to get another opinion. I would contact the Mayo clinic.I've been told second opinions are a great thing.
second the second opinion.
also- there is no way zumba is going to work for you if you have a leaking problem that allows you not to lift.
I mean- I get it- bracing causes leakage- even with people who have no problems and slap on a belt it's going to happen... but - zumba involves jumping.
no way lifting is harder on you than that is.
I'd be seeing other professionals- if they can't fix the problem with that they are doing- they need to do something else- and that may mean surgery. Push the issue.
I'm in the UK. I assume the Mayo clinic is in America, right? My doctor and physiotherapist say that I shouldn't be having surgery because if I decide to have kids it will completely reverse it, I could end up needing catheters for life, etc. Also, it's very hard to get different doctors here. I'd have to go through the whole waiting times and stuff all over again.0 -
RebeccaChemmy wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »This is a red flag. If a doctor tells you you are too young for surgery, you definitely need to get another opinion. I would contact the Mayo clinic.I've been told second opinions are a great thing.
second the second opinion.
also- there is no way zumba is going to work for you if you have a leaking problem that allows you not to lift.
I mean- I get it- bracing causes leakage- even with people who have no problems and slap on a belt it's going to happen... but - zumba involves jumping.
no way lifting is harder on you than that is.
I'd be seeing other professionals- if they can't fix the problem with that they are doing- they need to do something else- and that may mean surgery. Push the issue.
I'm in the UK. I assume the Mayo clinic is in America, right? My doctor and physiotherapist say that I shouldn't be having surgery because if I decide to have kids it will completely reverse it, I could end up needing catheters for life, etc. Also, it's very hard to get different doctors here. I'd have to go through the whole waiting times and stuff all over again.
I'm just going to put this here.
http://breakingmuscle.com/womens-fitness/more-squats-and-fewer-kegels-what-your-pelvic-floor-really-wants0 -
RebeccaChemmy wrote: »FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »This is a red flag. If a doctor tells you you are too young for surgery, you definitely need to get another opinion. I would contact the Mayo clinic.I've been told second opinions are a great thing.
second the second opinion.
also- there is no way zumba is going to work for you if you have a leaking problem that allows you not to lift.
I mean- I get it- bracing causes leakage- even with people who have no problems and slap on a belt it's going to happen... but - zumba involves jumping.
no way lifting is harder on you than that is.
I'd be seeing other professionals- if they can't fix the problem with that they are doing- they need to do something else- and that may mean surgery. Push the issue.
I'm in the UK. I assume the Mayo clinic is in America, right? My doctor and physiotherapist say that I shouldn't be having surgery because if I decide to have kids it will completely reverse it, I could end up needing catheters for life, etc. Also, it's very hard to get different doctors here. I'd have to go through the whole waiting times and stuff all over again.
What kind of doctor do you see?
Also, do you take any medications for your incontinence? If your doctor refuses to perform surgery on you, there are other options including medicine, biofeedback, and various pelvic exercises (i.e. kegels).0 -
DjinnMarie wrote: »I'm just going to put this here.
http://breakingmuscle.com/womens-fitness/more-squats-and-fewer-kegels-what-your-pelvic-floor-really-wants
I shall read this when I've done some revision for uni, but thanks for the link.
In the past 10 minutes I've decided I'm not going to stop now. If I'm going to have this problem, I may as well look good and have it, right?FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »What kind of doctor do you see?
Also, do you take any medications for your incontinence? If your doctor refuses to perform surgery on you, there are other options including medicine, biofeedback, and various pelvic exercises (i.e. kegels).
I have seen GPs, paediatricians, gynaecologists, urologists and this physiotherapist. They all say the same thing.
I'm trying out a fourth medication right now which helps with the urgency side of my problem but not so much the stress side of things. I think they keep sending me back to the physiotherapist for the pelvic exercises.0 -
RebeccaChemmy wrote: »DjinnMarie wrote: »I'm just going to put this here.
http://breakingmuscle.com/womens-fitness/more-squats-and-fewer-kegels-what-your-pelvic-floor-really-wants
I shall read this when I've done some revision for uni, but thanks for the link.
In the past 10 minutes I've decided I'm not going to stop now. If I'm going to have this problem, I may as well look good and have it, right?FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »What kind of doctor do you see?
Also, do you take any medications for your incontinence? If your doctor refuses to perform surgery on you, there are other options including medicine, biofeedback, and various pelvic exercises (i.e. kegels).
I have seen GPs, paediatricians, gynaecologists, urologists and this physiotherapist. They all say the same thing.
I'm trying out a fourth medication right now which helps with the urgency side of my problem but not so much the stress side of things. I think they keep sending me back to the physiotherapist for the pelvic exercises.
Honestly, just wear an adult diaper while you lift and do other exercises. No one will know! That might help with the stress that comes with incontinence. If you leak, no worries… the diaper will absorb it so you won't have to worry about your pants getting wet, people seeing, etc.
Continue doing the exercises even when you are not at PT.0 -
RebeccaChemmy wrote: »DjinnMarie wrote: »I'm just going to put this here.
http://breakingmuscle.com/womens-fitness/more-squats-and-fewer-kegels-what-your-pelvic-floor-really-wants
I shall read this when I've done some revision for uni, but thanks for the link.
In the past 10 minutes I've decided I'm not going to stop now. If I'm going to have this problem, I may as well look good and have it, right?FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »What kind of doctor do you see?
Also, do you take any medications for your incontinence? If your doctor refuses to perform surgery on you, there are other options including medicine, biofeedback, and various pelvic exercises (i.e. kegels).
I have seen GPs, paediatricians, gynaecologists, urologists and this physiotherapist. They all say the same thing.
I'm trying out a fourth medication right now which helps with the urgency side of my problem but not so much the stress side of things. I think they keep sending me back to the physiotherapist for the pelvic exercises.
I went through a neuro surgeon, a orthopedic surgeon, 2 pain management doctors and 3 physical therapists before finally getting some relief. Which the 3 rd physical therapist finally gave to me.
Neuro said he couldn't help me. Orthopedic wanted to fuse my pelvis together, 1st pain management doc gave me multiple steroid injections and literally burned my nerves in my right pelvis away. They grew back. My second pain management doctor wanted to give me a nerve stimulator implant in my spinal cord. I did the trial and signed up for the surgery but my husband deployed. My first two PTs told me we need to stabilize my pelvis before strengthening, or I would do damage. It never stabilized. My third said let's try strengthening before stabilizing. Well it's still not stabilized, but strengthening and lifting keeps it in check.
I went from assisted squats with a cane, and walking with a cane, to squatting one and a half times my body weight, pain med free, and comfortable.
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You're a trooper.0
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Honestly, just wear an adult diaper while you lift and do other exercises. No one will know! That might help with the stress that comes with incontinence. If you leak, no worries… the diaper will absorb it so you won't have to worry about your pants getting wet, people seeing, etc.
Continue doing the exercises even when you are not at PT.
I already have incontinence pads on 24/7. Wearing a full on nappy would be too much. Man, it's *kitten* embarrassing buying them though! Thank you to the genius who invented self scan machines at shops!DjinnMarie wrote: »I went through a neuro surgeon, a orthopedic surgeon, 2 pain management doctors and 3 physical therapists before finally getting some relief. Which the 3 rd physical therapist finally gave to me.
Neuro said he couldn't help me. Orthopedic wanted to fuse my pelvis together, 1st pain management doc gave me multiple steroid injections and literally burned my nerves in my right pelvis away. They grew back. My second pain management doctor wanted to give me a nerve stimulator implant in my spinal cord. I did the trial and signed up for the surgery but my husband deployed. My first two PTs told me we need to stabilize my pelvis before strengthening, or I would do damage. It never stabilized. My third said let's try strengthening before stabilizing. Well it's still not stabilized, but strengthening and lifting keeps it in check.
I went from assisted squats with a cane, and walking with a cane, to squatting one and a half times my body weight, pain med free, and comfortable.
This just made me feel really sad for you. No one should have to go through that many people! But I'm glad you feel much better now!
Meh, I'll just keep doing what I'm doing. I'm not dead yet so it's aaaaaaall goooooood. 0 -
It may be worth considering going private. My mum was passed from pillar to post for about three years with no one really committing to a fix (aka something expensive the NHS don't want to cover). Eventually I convinced her to just go private for the issue. The problem was resolved in a month.
Now, I'm not knocking the NHS. Its an amazing privilege to have such a service available. However, sometimes, with something so specialised, its worth going private especially as you are so young. Its worth investing in your quality of life.0 -
My point in sharing all that was.... Get a second opinion, or a third. Doctors aren't omniscient beings. They are fallible.0
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FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »I've never heard of any "lady problem" that stops someone from being able to lift and run.
I would get a second or third opinion.
^This. I work in medicine and am yet to meet a doctor, or a PT for that matter, that knew anything at all about lifting weights. They don't know about it so they fear it and tell everyone to stop doing it.0 -
Maybe that's not true. A recent blig post of Bret Contreras (easy to find on google) surprised me by reporting that high rep lower weight wasn't all that useless.RebeccaChemmy wrote: »Well, I'm sorry to hear that. Kind of unusual, to me anyway. It seems odd that you can do cardio-type of exercise but can't lift weights. Then again, I don't know your exact issue and certainly am not trying to pry.
Have you had the same doctor and/or the same diagnosis for those 17 years? I agree with a 2nd opinion or perhaps a different approach to handling it. Either way, I hope you are able to feel better soon!
I think she was getting at doing cardio that doesn't put stress on the pelvis, which was why she was keen to get me to do swimming. Maybe I'll have to, but that doesn't mean I'll enjoy it.
I've had different doctors over the years but the same diagnosis.A quality physio would be able to give you precise details on how long an expected course of treatment is, potential impacts to your life, and should be competent enough to discuss how to modify or adjust current activities in order to continue with them, unless they'd be deleterious in effect to an overall sound structure.
Find that physio.
To be fair to her, she couldn't do an examination because it's my lady week. So far the methods she's tried haven't worked but that doesn't mean she's just giving up. She's figuring out new things to try.
And she said with weights I could go lighter with more reps but when the goal is to get stronger that's not really going to help...
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