How do I achieve how do I avoid the wider flat waist but a smaller waist (Pictures)
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Okay the following woman started about where I am starting in waist size. As you can see she achieves her goal in Day 14, and I am very happy for her. But here is where my problem lies. My goal is Day 10 but Day 14 is what I am trying to avoid.
I explained this a few times but I find people fall back on the same myth that women can't achieve a wider waist like men, unless they take testosterone, take steroids, or work out to the body fat is super low. But here is an example of women who isn't doing any of that.
http://allouteffort.com/2012/11/how-my-wife-lost-13lbs-in-2-weeks.html
Based of the workout of the link above I cannot tell what in her work out caused her to go from whittle waist in Day 10 to Wide boxy waist in week 14, so that I can avoid it like the plague
If any one help me solve the exercises that may result in the wider waist, and help me keep achieve my whittle waist that would be great.
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The only difference between day 10 and day 14 is lighting. Frankly, I don't think you should be so obsessed with how you look.0
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I would love the 10 day waist too. Not sure how she achieved this look in just 14 days...0
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Positioning and camera angles. That's really all that's going on. In the first three pictures she's holding her shoulders up higher, and in the fourth one she's hunching forward a little bit. Also in the fourth one she has her hands on her hips below her waist which will add to the illusion of what you call a "boxy" waist.
You can't really train your waist to a certain size; this is one area where it's either all genetics, or a really good corset.0 -
I would guess the broader waist comes from an increase in abdominal strength training (Possibly the oblique mussels specifically) and genetics. The link does not work for me so I could not see the specific routine.
I would say to focus on your diet and not as much core training. This kind of goes against conventional wisdom, as a strong core is where a lot of your strength comes from as your core stabilizes your body. So, do not completely throw out the core, but maybe not as hard core.
A personal trainer consultation could guide you on specific exercises to sculpt your body the way you want. As long as you are happy with your body no one else's body matters.0 -
Positioning and camera angles. That's really all that's going on. In the first three pictures she's holding her shoulders up higher, and in the fourth one she's hunching forward a little bit. Also in the fourth one she has her hands on her hips below her waist which will add to the illusion of what you call a "boxy" waist.
You can't really train your waist to a certain size; this is one area where it's either all genetics, or a really good corset.
Yes the camera angles and lighting also play a factor.
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Get into a time machine and choose different parents.
Just kidding. My waist looks way, way, way smaller from the side than from the front. Have never quite been able to figure this out, but it was the same no matter what my size (on down to 95 lbs. with heavy workouts), fitness level, exercise type or eating plan. I think *overall* we're just built the way we're built. You can maybe tweak that in some specific way, to an extent, but I'm really not sure what way that would be.
This may not be your answer, but perhaps you should be satisfied that you've achieved the weight you have, and accept that all bodies are different.0 -
Also, on Day 14 she's pretty obviously hunching forward (with her top half slightly closer to the camera, going slightly farther away as you look down toward her waist) and that she's crunching her abs in.
You can see it in the way she's hunching her shoulders and drawing her elbows way farther back. -1 -
It's highly unlikely that this was achieved in just 14 days. Whether or not you look like day 10 or day 14 depends on your bone structure and oblique development. It looks like she built up her obliques between day 10 and day 14.0
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You do realise that all 4 of those shots the body is the same
The only difference is clothes, body positioning, camera angle and lighting
The look is down to genetics and body fat percentage
Personally I don't want to go below 24% body fat! am currently 25.5%
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Her weightloss probably had more to do with it than did her workout creating a new comp.
Perhaps she lost some fat off her hips, assuming for sake of discussion that there are no lighting, angle, posture issues - her hips look smaller to me, her waist doesn't look wider.0 -
Also, on Day 14 she's pretty obviously hunching forward (with her top half slightly closer to the camera, going slightly farther away as you look down toward her waist) and that she's crunching her abs in. You can see it in the way she's hunching her shoulders and drawing her elbows way farther back.
Yeah, this.
I know what you mean, though, OP. What I have read from a few people is to avoid doing too much direct ab work (like endless crunches), other than planks for stability. Your abs get worked in standing weighted exercises anyway.0 -
Planks ...as in stationary planks are useless for anyone but a total beginner0
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Her waist didn't get 'wider' between date 10 and 14, it's more likely that her hips got narrower from losing fat, so she has less of a difference between her waist and hip measurements.
I very much doubt that happened in 14 days as the pictures claim though.0 -
She's Flexing In 14 AnD Not In 10, Which IsPushing Her Waist Out A Bit. That's What Happens When I Flex Hard Anyway.
Sorry My Phone Thinks Caps Are Cool For Some Reason Lol0 -
It is not possible to have any physical change in body composition in 4 days. Jeez. The difference is in lighting and body positioning. If you twist your torso, your waist will look smaller and if you play with the lighting you can see more or less definition.
Personally, although I don't like the full six-pack look on women, I love having a bit of definition there. ;-)0 -
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You do realise that all 4 of those shots the body is the same
The only difference is clothes, body positioning, camera angle and lighting
The look is down to genetics and body fat percentage
Personally I don't want to go below 24% body fat! am currently 25.5%
I love this!
OP, agree with everyone else here, different angle/shot.0 -
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WalkingAlong wrote: »
I don't believe planks are useless.StarvingAuthor wrote: »
I don't think they are either. There are so many variations of planks, some static and some dynamic, to add difficulty to the movement.0 -
Once you can hold a plank for 20 or 30 seconds yes ...you would need to move to dynamic movements to make any difference0
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Here's an interesting discussion about it-
https://www.acefitness.org/prosourcearticle/3680/reality-check-are-planks-really-the-best-core0 -
So in conclusion the planks is our friend; if my genetics allow it (which they will) I will achieve it naturally from any overall weight loss, no matter if it is diet, strength training or cardio; lights, camera and angles are is these pictures' smoke and mirrors; and if fitness fails in last mile corset train, which I was I was planning to do once I maintained my goal body for at least year.0
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I honestly think that the 4 original pictures are 4 different people. As if you can change your body that much in 14 days. Just look at her "chest". It goes from small, to a little bigger, back to smaller and then bigger again on the last pic. Sorry, unrelated to planks, but HAD to comment on the pictures.
PS: I love doing planks, and i suck at them, and my core shows that!0 -
WalkingAlong wrote: »Here's an interesting discussion about it-
https://www.acefitness.org/prosourcearticle/3680/reality-check-are-planks-really-the-best-core
Yes there's lots of info out there, here's some of the other info...
dailyhealthpost.com/5-most-overrated-exercises-you-can-stop-doing/
schwarzenegger.com/fitness/post/8-common-exercises-that-arent-worth-your-time
livestrong.com/article/435124-5-most-overrated-exercises/
But whatever people want to do, it's better than doing nothing 0 -
I would think that exercise has little to do with your wasit size (once you get down to a certain size) and more to do with genetics. Some women are just naturally more curvey than others.0
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That particular set of bodyfat photos drives me nuts. Most of us get some belly pooch much lower than 40%, for crying out loud. Most measurement-based calculators put me between 19 and 20 and believe me, I'd be thrilled if I matched up with the photos at that level, LOL. (I understand that the measurement based calcs are flawed...but even looking at the photos, I'm no higher than 25 based on the extremities)0
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I think the day 14 girl is a different one from the other 3.
Plus the captions imply she lost 13 lbs. in 13 days. I think that's impossible at that weight range, even if she did some extreme dehydrating.0 -
That particular set of bodyfat photos drives me nuts. Most of us get some belly pooch much lower than 40%, for crying out loud. Most measurement-based calculators put me between 19 and 20 and believe me, I'd be thrilled if I matched up with the photos at that level, LOL. (I understand that the measurement based calcs are flawed...but even looking at the photos, I'm no higher than 25 based on the extremities)
I did a "huh?" on this one, too. I pretty much look like the 45% picture, actually my waist is a bit bigger than that picture, and my BMI is 38.
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I guess I look most like the 25% photo, but with the 40% belly. (I have 3 kids. Even when I was dangerously underweight a few years ago, as in needing to buy child sized trousers, I still had a saggy middle.) My BMI is about 23, but I don't find BMI to be helpful to me...it let me get away with "skinny-fat" for too much of my life!
In that photo set, the 15-17 and 20-22% examples look almost identical. The differences seem largely due to posture to my eye.0 -
tanning spray, lighting, dehydrating, and flexing can make you look way skinnier in a few days. if it IS the same person and it really IS that short a time, you've got your answer.
if she has lost fat and that's why her waist looks thicker, it's because her hips are narrower. if you want to look like you have a very narrow waist, get a double boned corset with flat and spiral steel boning. it won't make your waist smaller permanently, it will reshape it temporarily.
genetics will largely determine where you will lose weight first. check out my profile pic. i've lost 50 lbs since then and my chest is exactly the same - but my hips are 10" smaller. darn it. i liked my hips, was hoping to lose my belly roll more than the 1" i ended up with.0
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