How do I achieve how do I avoid the wider flat waist but a smaller waist (Pictures)
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That particular set of bodyfat photos drives me nuts. Most of us get some belly pooch much lower than 40%, for crying out loud. Most measurement-based calculators put me between 19 and 20 and believe me, I'd be thrilled if I matched up with the photos at that level, LOL. (I understand that the measurement based calcs are flawed...but even looking at the photos, I'm no higher than 25 based on the extremities)
I did a "huh?" on this one, too. I pretty much look like the 45% picture, actually my waist is a bit bigger than that picture, and my BMI is 38.
The pictures are a reference to body fat percentage and not BMI ...different measures...
And of course they are only referential of a particular body fat percentage for particular body types ... we all hold our fat where we hold our fat. I don't think they're perfect at all ..but what they aren't is the same woman with different clothes, positions, camera angles and lighting0 -
WalkingAlong wrote: »Here's an interesting discussion about it-
https://www.acefitness.org/prosourcearticle/3680/reality-check-are-planks-really-the-best-core
Yes there's lots of info out there, here's some of the other info...
dailyhealthpost.com/5-most-overrated-exercises-you-can-stop-doing/
schwarzenegger.com/fitness/post/8-common-exercises-that-arent-worth-your-time
livestrong.com/article/435124-5-most-overrated-exercises/
But whatever people want to do, it's better than doing nothing
I said *maybe* do planks, because they are important for core strength (according to my physiotherapist, you can take it up with her if you want), just don't go crazy with crunches.0 -
my BMI is under 40 and according to my fat-measuring scale i am 48% fat. give or take a bit because bioelectric impedance analysis isn't terribly accurate at times.0
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That particular set of bodyfat photos drives me nuts. Most of us get some belly pooch much lower than 40%, for crying out loud. Most measurement-based calculators put me between 19 and 20 and believe me, I'd be thrilled if I matched up with the photos at that level, LOL. (I understand that the measurement based calcs are flawed...but even looking at the photos, I'm no higher than 25 based on the extremities)
I did a "huh?" on this one, too. I pretty much look like the 45% picture, actually my waist is a bit bigger than that picture, and my BMI is 38.
The pictures are a reference to body fat percentage and not BMI ...different measures...
And of course they are only referential of a particular body fat percentage for particular body types ... we all hold our fat where we hold our fat. I don't think they're perfect at all ..but what they aren't is the same woman with different clothes, positions, camera angles and lighting
Ah, I see.
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WalkingAlong wrote: »Here's an interesting discussion about it-
https://www.acefitness.org/prosourcearticle/3680/reality-check-are-planks-really-the-best-core
Yes there's lots of info out there, here's some of the other info...
dailyhealthpost.com/5-most-overrated-exercises-you-can-stop-doing/
schwarzenegger.com/fitness/post/8-common-exercises-that-arent-worth-your-time
livestrong.com/article/435124-5-most-overrated-exercises/
But whatever people want to do, it's better than doing nothing
I said *maybe* do planks, because they are important for core strength (according to my physiotherapist, you can take it up with her if you want), just don't go crazy with crunches.
Why shouldn't you go crazy with crunches?0 -
StarvingAuthor wrote: »WalkingAlong wrote: »Here's an interesting discussion about it-
https://www.acefitness.org/prosourcearticle/3680/reality-check-are-planks-really-the-best-core
Yes there's lots of info out there, here's some of the other info...
dailyhealthpost.com/5-most-overrated-exercises-you-can-stop-doing/
schwarzenegger.com/fitness/post/8-common-exercises-that-arent-worth-your-time
livestrong.com/article/435124-5-most-overrated-exercises/
But whatever people want to do, it's better than doing nothing
I said *maybe* do planks, because they are important for core strength (according to my physiotherapist, you can take it up with her if you want), just don't go crazy with crunches.
Why shouldn't you go crazy with crunches?
Because they are not that effective.0 -
Hip width structure DOESN'T change since bones are set. Hips can have the illusion of looking "curvier" due to having more fat on them while the waist stays small. Now not everyone attains this look because genetics will dictate your shape, but if you want to stay looking like pic 10, then don't lower your body fat too low.
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Lourdesong wrote: »Her weightloss probably had more to do with it than did her workout creating a new comp.
Perhaps she lost some fat off her hips, assuming for sake of discussion that there are no lighting, angle, posture issues - her hips look smaller to me, her waist doesn't look wider.
Yup - that is what I thought, too. She reduced BF% further , especially noted on her hips - her waist is NOT broader but leaner.0 -
StarvingAuthor wrote: »WalkingAlong wrote: »Here's an interesting discussion about it-
https://www.acefitness.org/prosourcearticle/3680/reality-check-are-planks-really-the-best-core
Yes there's lots of info out there, here's some of the other info...
dailyhealthpost.com/5-most-overrated-exercises-you-can-stop-doing/
schwarzenegger.com/fitness/post/8-common-exercises-that-arent-worth-your-time
livestrong.com/article/435124-5-most-overrated-exercises/
But whatever people want to do, it's better than doing nothing
I said *maybe* do planks, because they are important for core strength (according to my physiotherapist, you can take it up with her if you want), just don't go crazy with crunches.
Why shouldn't you go crazy with crunches?
crunches give me headaches. I think it's a spine issue though since sitting in soft chairs for too long (like 5+ minutes) also gives me a headache.
These are super fun though, I'm doing them now because I also finally just started attempting pull-ups and wanted to add in an ab exercise
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christinev297 wrote: »I would love the 10 day waist too. Not sure how she achieved this look in just 14 days...
Highly unlikely she did - well, without lighting, water/carb manipulation, etc.0 -
christinev297 wrote: »I would love the 10 day waist too. Not sure how she achieved this look in just 14 days...
Highly unlikely she did - well, without lighting, water/carb manipulation, etc.
Your probably right base of her workout plan and diet plan.
http://www.allouteffort.com/2012/11/how-my-wife-lost-13lbs-in-2-weeks.html?m=1
When you say water manipulation did you mean body wraps?0 -
You don't need wraps to drop water, although if it was for a competition or shoot, I don't think they'd hurt.christinev297 wrote: »I would love the 10 day waist too. Not sure how she achieved this look in just 14 days...
Highly unlikely she did - well, without lighting, water/carb manipulation, etc.
Your probably right base of her workout plan and diet plan. When you say water manipulation did you mean body wraps?
I'm sure Sarah is talking about water/carb manipulation to look "fuller" in the muscle without spilling over and blurring out the definition. Competitive bodybuilders and fitness, figure, bikini competitors do this the day of a show.
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christinev297 wrote: »I would love the 10 day waist too. Not sure how she achieved this look in just 14 days...
Trust me, she didn't.
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You don't need wraps to drop water, although if it was for a competition or shoot, I don't think they'd hurt.christinev297 wrote: »I would love the 10 day waist too. Not sure how she achieved this look in just 14 days...
Highly unlikely she did - well, without lighting, water/carb manipulation, etc.
Your probably right base of her workout plan and diet plan. When you say water manipulation did you mean body wraps?
I'm sure Sarah is talking about water/carb manipulation to look "fuller" in the muscle without spilling over and blurring out the definition. Competitive bodybuilders and fitness, figure, bikini competitors do this the day of a show.
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I didn't know that was a practice. How does it work exactly?0 -
This making me wonder about other body manipulation a besides photography or photoshop. Like body wrap how long do the results last (6hrs, 12hrs, 24 hrs maybe) and corset training how much weeks of training does it take before the body will hold it shape for a couple of days without the corset?0
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Well you would live off bland chicken, fish, and steak along with unsalted vegetables and reduced carbs for about 16 weeks. Then you would carb deplete (usually 2.5 days) the week off the show, then a couple of days out "carb up" but being aware of how much water you're taking in. On the day of the show, you basically just take sips of water while consuming carbs to make the muscles as full as possible without blurring out your definition.
You don't need wraps to drop water, although if it was for a competition or shoot, I don't think they'd hurt.christinev297 wrote: »I would love the 10 day waist too. Not sure how she achieved this look in just 14 days...
Highly unlikely she did - well, without lighting, water/carb manipulation, etc.
Your probably right base of her workout plan and diet plan. When you say water manipulation did you mean body wraps?
I'm sure Sarah is talking about water/carb manipulation to look "fuller" in the muscle without spilling over and blurring out the definition. Competitive bodybuilders and fitness, figure, bikini competitors do this the day of a show.
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I didn't know that was a practice. How does it work exactly?
I've competed 9 times and I'll just say that doing this naturally is tough especially when you still have to train hard and do some cardio along with still keeping a full time job.
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Sorry, I don't believe that corset training will work at all for structural enhancing when it's off. And a body wrap depletes water out of the system as a whole, but the effect would only last as long as water isn't reintroduced into the body. And I doubt that people who dehydrate themselves purposely everyday just so their waist looks a little smaller. Those that do, I would note with a body dysmorphia issue.This making me wonder about other body manipulation a besides photography or photoshop. Like body wrap how long do the results last (6hrs, 12hrs, 24 hrs maybe) and corset training how much weeks of training does it take before the body will hold it shape for a couple of days without the corset?
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Well you would live off bland chicken, fish, and steak along with unsalted vegetables and reduced carbs for about 16 weeks. Then you would carb deplete (usually 2.5 days) the week off the show, then a couple of days out "carb up" but being aware of how much water you're taking in. On the day of the show, you basically just take sips of water while consuming carbs to make the muscles as full as possible without blurring out your definition.
You don't need wraps to drop water, although if it was for a competition or shoot, I don't think they'd hurt.christinev297 wrote: »I would love the 10 day waist too. Not sure how she achieved this look in just 14 days...
Highly unlikely she did - well, without lighting, water/carb manipulation, etc.
Your probably right base of her workout plan and diet plan. When you say water manipulation did you mean body wraps?
I'm sure Sarah is talking about water/carb manipulation to look "fuller" in the muscle without spilling over and blurring out the definition. Competitive bodybuilders and fitness, figure, bikini competitors do this the day of a show.
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I didn't know that was a practice. How does it work exactly?
I've competed 9 times and I'll just say that doing this naturally is tough especially when you still have to train hard and do some cardio along with still keeping a full time job.
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That so insane. Would going to those extremes physically stress the body?0 -
Sorry, I don't believe that corset training will work at all for structural enhancing when it's off. And a body wrap depletes water out of the system as a whole, but the effect would only last as long as water isn't reintroduced into the body. And I doubt that people who dehydrate themselves purposely everyday just so their waist looks a little smaller. Those that do, I would note with a body dysmorphia issue.This making me wonder about other body manipulation a besides photography or photoshop. Like body wrap how long do the results last (6hrs, 12hrs, 24 hrs maybe) and corset training how much weeks of training does it take before the body will hold it shape for a couple of days without the corset?
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Apparently corset training does work but has to be done over a long period. Women who practice say that waist will hold it shape without the corset (after weeks of training) but you can't go without the corset for too long (like a week) or the your ribs start to adjust back to their original shape. They say you start hear blunt crack noise as the rib readjust. I was think I would try out corset training following maintaining my goal measurements for a year.0 -
You do realise that all 4 of those shots the body is the same
The only difference is clothes, body positioning, camera angle and lighting
The look is down to genetics and body fat percentage
Personally I don't want to go below 24% body fat! am currently 25.5%
It's actually a mix of BF%, genetics AND total weight. A person that weighs 150 lbs with 25% BF will not look the same as they would if they weighed 125 lbs with 25% BF.
My BF% is around 26-27% but I look more like the pic of 30% because I'm pretty heavy.0 -
christinev297 wrote: »I would love the 10 day waist too. Not sure how she achieved this look in just 14 days...
Highly unlikely she did - well, without lighting, water/carb manipulation, etc.
Your probably right base of her workout plan and diet plan.
http://www.allouteffort.com/2012/11/how-my-wife-lost-13lbs-in-2-weeks.html?m=1
When you say water manipulation did you mean body wraps?
No. Basically you can bloat yourself with water/sodium/carbs for a 'before' and then deplete yourself to look leaner for an 'after' pic.0 -
"bodybuilding" build up your lats and your glutes for the hourglass look. Don't do anything twisting on your abs like russian twists for example,it will make you boxy0
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christinev297 wrote: »I would love the 10 day waist too. Not sure how she achieved this look in just 14 days...
Highly unlikely she did - well, without lighting, water/carb manipulation, etc.
Your probably right base of her workout plan and diet plan.
http://www.allouteffort.com/2012/11/how-my-wife-lost-13lbs-in-2-weeks.html?m=1
When you say water manipulation did you mean body wraps?
No. Basically you can bloat yourself with water/sodium/carbs for a 'before' and then deplete yourself to look leaner for an 'after' pic.
Is that what they do?!0 -
christinev297 wrote: »I would love the 10 day waist too. Not sure how she achieved this look in just 14 days...
Highly unlikely she did - well, without lighting, water/carb manipulation, etc.
Your probably right base of her workout plan and diet plan.
http://www.allouteffort.com/2012/11/how-my-wife-lost-13lbs-in-2-weeks.html?m=1
When you say water manipulation did you mean body wraps?
No. Basically you can bloat yourself with water/sodium/carbs for a 'before' and then deplete yourself to look leaner for an 'after' pic.
Is that what they do?!
Who do?
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »You do realise that all 4 of those shots the body is the same
The only difference is clothes, body positioning, camera angle and lighting
The look is down to genetics and body fat percentage
Personally I don't want to go below 24% body fat! am currently 25.5%
It's actually a mix of BF%, genetics AND total weight. A person that weighs 150 lbs with 25% BF will not look the same as they would if they weighed 125 lbs with 25% BF.
My BF% is around 26-27% but I look more like the pic of 30% because I'm pretty heavy.
I don't consider 30% heavy at all actually it closer to my ideal. I am at about 29% have the minor love handles of 25% slightly bloated stomach of 25% but if I could have the flatish stomach and rounded hips of 30% at my current weight I wouldn't be working out.
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OP, are you talking about corset training, where people wear the tight thing around their waist that deforms their organs in the abdomen? I don't think that's healthy. For a special occasion, consider some spanx and then take them off! I've seen images of how the organs get compressed and it's not good.0
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christinev297 wrote: »I would love the 10 day waist too. Not sure how she achieved this look in just 14 days...
Highly unlikely she did - well, without lighting, water/carb manipulation, etc.
Your probably right base of her workout plan and diet plan.
http://www.allouteffort.com/2012/11/how-my-wife-lost-13lbs-in-2-weeks.html?m=1
When you say water manipulation did you mean body wraps?
No. Basically you can bloat yourself with water/sodium/carbs for a 'before' and then deplete yourself to look leaner for an 'after' pic.
Is that what they do?!
There are several videos of people who do before after videos and how to "cheat" it. My favorite is a guy who takes an after photo looking lean and then binges on salt and tons of liquids and then takes his "before" photo. The difference between the two photos is only a few hours.0 -
Competitors. Same like marathoners, Ironman athletes, motocross, or ballet dancers.
Well you would live off bland chicken, fish, and steak along with unsalted vegetables and reduced carbs for about 16 weeks. Then you would carb deplete (usually 2.5 days) the week off the show, then a couple of days out "carb up" but being aware of how much water you're taking in. On the day of the show, you basically just take sips of water while consuming carbs to make the muscles as full as possible without blurring out your definition.
You don't need wraps to drop water, although if it was for a competition or shoot, I don't think they'd hurt.christinev297 wrote: »I would love the 10 day waist too. Not sure how she achieved this look in just 14 days...
Highly unlikely she did - well, without lighting, water/carb manipulation, etc.
Your probably right base of her workout plan and diet plan. When you say water manipulation did you mean body wraps?
I'm sure Sarah is talking about water/carb manipulation to look "fuller" in the muscle without spilling over and blurring out the definition. Competitive bodybuilders and fitness, figure, bikini competitors do this the day of a show.
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I didn't know that was a practice. How does it work exactly?
I've competed 9 times and I'll just say that doing this naturally is tough especially when you still have to train hard and do some cardio along with still keeping a full time job.
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That so insane. Would going to those extremes physically stress the body?
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Well I wouldn't say that's "working". If someone wore a cast for 6 weeks, the body part that it surrounded would be atrophied and "thinner" but that's only because it's been constrained in a molded contraption. So not only does it return to normal size within a short time, but muscle strength is completely compromised.
Sorry, I don't believe that corset training will work at all for structural enhancing when it's off. And a body wrap depletes water out of the system as a whole, but the effect would only last as long as water isn't reintroduced into the body. And I doubt that people who dehydrate themselves purposely everyday just so their waist looks a little smaller. Those that do, I would note with a body dysmorphia issue.This making me wonder about other body manipulation a besides photography or photoshop. Like body wrap how long do the results last (6hrs, 12hrs, 24 hrs maybe) and corset training how much weeks of training does it take before the body will hold it shape for a couple of days without the corset?
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Apparently corset training does work but has to be done over a long period. Women who practice say that waist will hold it shape without the corset (after weeks of training) but you can't go without the corset for too long (like a week) or the your ribs start to adjust back to their original shape. They say you start hear blunt crack noise as the rib readjust. I was think I would try out corset training following maintaining my goal measurements for a year.
The reality is that if someone wants a smaller waist, they just need to reduce the body fat around it.
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