THIS...IS...SPARTA!!!!

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  • gbel1975
    gbel1975 Posts: 86 Member
    csuhar wrote: »
    This is a big element. It's valuable to remember that actors can tie their physique into their livelihood, so not only are they that much more motivated, but those around them, to include their employers, understand and enable it.

    That doesn't make it impossible for the rest of us. We just need to find ways to do it in environments that might not be as conducive as we'd like.

    This is a very real truth not only with actors, but also professional athletes. Heck, even the people on the Biggest Loser fit into this category. All of these people have little else to concern themselves with other than losing weight, getting fit, getting ripped, etc. With virtually unlimited resources including equipment, trainers, therapists, nutrition, education, etc., it's certainly a lot easier than for the "rest of us."

    I have a man-crush on Hugh Jackman as the Wolverine. I'd love to have a body like that. But the fact of the matter is I don't have three to six months to dedicate multiple hours a day to getting a body like that in a gym. Nor do I have the money to eat 6,000 calories a day and have people prepare it for me. It's not sour grapes; it's just the reality of the matter.
  • LoneWolfRunner
    LoneWolfRunner Posts: 1,160 Member
    Who do you want to be after Halloween?
  • middlehaitch
    middlehaitch Posts: 8,486 Member
    I can't add much to this discussion except to say stick with the basic foods that JoRocka outlined, I love lean ground beef for its versatility too, and slowly add to your herb and spice collection as money allows.
    I buy basic foods but change them up by the herbs and spices I use. Curries from scratch are my favourite - no two taste the same.
    You can eat well on a budget, the shopping my take a little longer as you need to go a couple of places to get the best deals. Scour flyers before you do your weekly shop.
    Cheers, h
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    shawn_s wrote: »
    I'll agree with you 100%. However, we're looking past the fact that 300 was a movie in which King Leonidas screamed "This is Sparta!" This fact relates to my ambition to look similar to (obviously not exactly thanks to Hollywood) KL. It's pretty straight forward but I'm a history buff too so I get why you're overseeing that. Than* And thanks for your help! I really do appreciate all the advice!

    got ya ...

    the topic title threw me off ...

  • 3laine75
    3laine75 Posts: 3,069 Member
    'this is madness!'

    teehee
  • NowyTends
    NowyTends Posts: 110 Member
    kgeyser wrote: »
    Here's an article which includes the workout they supposedly did: http://www.menshealth.com/fitness/muscle-building-11

    Now all you need is a personal chef, an assistant to keep you on track, CGI, and a make-up artist to airbrush definition around your muscles, and you're good to go. Oh, and nothing else to do with your time than focus on getting into shape to be Leonidas.


    Don't forget genetics! Can't fight nature!

  • lngrunert
    lngrunert Posts: 204 Member
    Damn it, I was hoping this thread was about Spartacus (the Starz TV show). Those men (and ladies too) are fiiiiine. :)
  • SativaMad
    SativaMad Posts: 171 Member
    I will be honest i didn't read everyone's post but i want to disagree a bit. You can lose fat and gain muscle at the same time but this will only happen for a short period of time.

    The biggest factor is the nutrition.. I'd say eat maintenance cals for a few weeks with cardio twice a week. Then slowly up cals and cardio (if needed). But diet will have to be on point.

    As for cheap food im from S.A. so here the cheapest options are chicken breasts and ground beef for protein. Rice, oats, sweet potatoe and mixed vegggies for carbs. Healthy fats can then come from nuts, avo, peanut butter and oils.
  • shawn_s
    shawn_s Posts: 27 Member
    So I've been doing some research and I think if I can find the right stores, I could try to eat well balanced healthy meals for maybe $50/week. I hope it works out in the end. As for the show Spartacus, I loved every second of it and I'm upset it's over :(
  • 3laine75
    3laine75 Posts: 3,069 Member
    I'm Spartacus
  • shawn_s
    shawn_s Posts: 27 Member
    3laine75 wrote: »
    I'm Spartacus

    Must be nice
  • 52cardpickup
    52cardpickup Posts: 379 Member
    3laine75 wrote: »
    I'm Spartacus

    I am Smartypants.
  • SteveJWatson
    SteveJWatson Posts: 1,225 Member
    Buy some chickens. Grain is cheap - then eggs come out of their arses and when they are done laying you can kill them and eat them. They taste just like...chicken.
  • 52cardpickup
    52cardpickup Posts: 379 Member
    Buy some chickens. Grain is cheap - then eggs come out of their arses and when they are done laying you can kill them and eat them. They taste just like...chicken.

    I did this... with ducks... they're in my backyard right now, going crazy over a little snow...
  • alexkeithwatson
    alexkeithwatson Posts: 15 Member
    edited January 2015
    Film is really good.. I Tried a bulk but started putting on fat like crazy lol... I was an ectomorph for so long like last year I was 9.5 stone and it was impossible to gain weight.. Now im 12 stone and I put it on like mad.. Want to maintain and lose bodyfat while getting lean body mass.. Im 5'11 170 pounds/ 12 stone have a pretty intense 3 day split workout. Feel free to add me and critique my diet.. Only started today so you only got my breakfast on there haha.. I would also recommend getting a protein powder supplement to get that extra protein you need. convenient and can be cost effective. I buy a lot of frozen chicken breasts too they're really cheap.
  • alexkeithwatson
    alexkeithwatson Posts: 15 Member
    edited January 2015
    How do you delete posts lol
  • 3laine75
    3laine75 Posts: 3,069 Member
    edited January 2015
    Deleting my post and getting of the forums for today - the gaining section is getting as irritating as the others :(
  • 3laine75
    3laine75 Posts: 3,069 Member
    Oh, and I'm gaining weight - I'm not a guy taking drugs, sheest
  • jpaulie
    jpaulie Posts: 917 Member
    one of the cheapest cuts of beef is the best, Eye of Round very low fat and not so tender but cheap. It is the only beef I eat. Of course beef prices have gone crazy lately :(
  • AKDonF
    AKDonF Posts: 235 Member
    This is the Goal: Gaining Weight section. Is it your contention that this sections is unnecessary? As for the personal attack and generalizations made, I will choose not to engage in this portion of the troll.
  • Delphino
    Delphino Posts: 8 Member
    Let me start by saying this is the first time I have posted to any of these blogs. I read them constantly just never post. Secondly, WOW! There are so many contradictions to the responses, it is overwhelming. Your original question needs some refinement. If you are trying to lose fat and put on muscle that is most definitely possible. If you are just trying to gain overall size (which is contrary to Gerard Butlers physique - even without computer enhancement in 300) then no it isn't going to work. People lose fat and build muscle every day and absolutely no one on here can tell you precisely how to do it. It is quite different for everyone because so many things have a factor in it. How you eat is crucial to what you are trying to accomplish and some on here can do it with a high protein low fat diet, while other can do it with a high fat, moderate protein and next to non-existent carbs. You have to trial and error it and find what works the best for your body. In order to put on muscle while losing fat you have to have a strong strength training program, BUT it has to be accompanied with the correct diet for your body. You may or may not need cardio. Without knowing your stats and your history of gains/losses it is hard to actually make suggestions for you. I would suggest you provide a bit more info. Also you have to have some way to measure your actual body fat to determine where you are losing / gaining. You can't just judge it in a mirror. I know this isn't much help and I would be more than glad to offer suggestions if you will provide more info about your body as it currently is.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,030 Member
    The "monster" dude was more buffed and defined. That's what I'd go for.

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  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    gregbun wrote: »
    jorocka =American -that explains the attitude. You wonder why nobody likes Americans with people like this representing them.

    No one likes me because I'm rude and a general *kitten* not because I'm an American. Get it straight.

    And while yes there is a difference between size and definition.. You cannot have good definition without SOME size.

    So just saying gaining size is pointless is an incorrect and blatantly misdirected statement.
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  • LoneWolfRunner
    LoneWolfRunner Posts: 1,160 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    No one likes me because I'm rude and a general *kitten* not because I'm an American. Get it straight.
    I suddenly like you quite a bit....lol
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    edited January 2015
    JoRocka wrote: »
    No one likes me because I'm rude and a general *kitten* not because I'm an American. Get it straight.
    I suddenly like you quite a bit....lol

    Tee hee hee
    Insert wicked grin
  • dym123
    dym123 Posts: 1,670 Member
    Haven't read all the responses, but do you live near an Aldi? They have fairly low-cost produce and meat. Love their wild-caught salmon. Do not get their processed stuff, tastes like crap. They even have organic. I'm also a Costco member, get lots of stuff there as well, chicken breast, eggs. Great deals on protein bars and powder. I eat healthy, doesn't cost me an arm and a leg.
  • JoRocka wrote: »
    gregbun wrote: »
    jorocka =American -that explains the attitude. You wonder why nobody likes Americans with people like this representing them.

    No one likes me because I'm rude and a general *kitten* not because I'm an American. Get it straight.

    And while yes there is a difference between size and definition.. You cannot have good definition without SOME size.

    So just saying gaining size is pointless is an incorrect and blatantly misdirected statement.

    Bruce lee had no size but had definition so that makes your statement kind of wrong lol
    Training the nervous system is what gives you the best definition, without gaining weight.

  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    He had some muscles to be defined.
    Otherwise according to your line of logic every holocaust survivor would have been ripped like a fitness model. That's not how it works. You have to have a base on order to have definition and it actually look like something. Just having low body fat isn't the answer.
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