Define "healthy" food...
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EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
Could quite possibly win for derp comment of the year. And are only 6 days in.EvgeniZyntx wrote: »call it heretical if you will, but figs, olives, caper berries, preserved lemons, and even apricots are welcome on my pizzas.
I felt something.
Well, except for capers. Those are pickled monkey snot.
And I'm behind, but I'm glad I had my pizza. And it had fresh peppers, and I believe I personally added some E116b directly. I like cumin.
Lol @ person telling Sara to educate herself.
The year is young and I expect MFP will rise to the occasion.
MFP: The Rise of the Derp < has a catchy ring to it0 -
I'm not asking about the Twinkie diet.
When you say "health markers", what, exactly do you mean?So you're telling me if someone wanted to gain weight they could eat at McDonald's every day and still be healthy? Wash down their grease infested fries down with coke and ice cream and still be healthy?? Sounds like a one way ticket to a heart attack. No sir, that's not healthy. Your diet does matter.
google the "twinkie diet"
guy ate nothing but twinkies maintained a calorie deficit, lost weight, and had better health markers..
so yea, you can eat mcdonalds and lose weight …however, it would not be best option for body comp purposes but for fat loss it would work.
I keep asking this, people keep not telling me, lol.
I assume you mean blood tests. Which tests, specifically, constitute "health markers"?
blood work ..cholesterol and what not …
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
go ahead and read for yourself...
I'm asking if this "health markers" phrase has some kind of agreed upon definition. "Cholesterol and whatnot" would lead me to believe it does not. Please let me know if I'm wrong.
go look it up yourself…I gave you the tools…
besides, you would benefit from educating yourself about these things.0 -
food that doesnt have commercials on tv0
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^^
so does peanut butter, greek yogurt, salad, frozen vegetables....0 -
I did look. Found nothing concrete.
I'm not asking about the Twinkie diet.
When you say "health markers", what, exactly do you mean?So you're telling me if someone wanted to gain weight they could eat at McDonald's every day and still be healthy? Wash down their grease infested fries down with coke and ice cream and still be healthy?? Sounds like a one way ticket to a heart attack. No sir, that's not healthy. Your diet does matter.
google the "twinkie diet"
guy ate nothing but twinkies maintained a calorie deficit, lost weight, and had better health markers..
so yea, you can eat mcdonalds and lose weight …however, it would not be best option for body comp purposes but for fat loss it would work.
I keep asking this, people keep not telling me, lol.
I assume you mean blood tests. Which tests, specifically, constitute "health markers"?
blood work ..cholesterol and what not …
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
go ahead and read for yourself...
I'm asking if this "health markers" phrase has some kind of agreed upon definition. "Cholesterol and whatnot" would lead me to believe it does not. Please let me know if I'm wrong.
go look it up yourself…I gave you the tools…
besides, you would benefit from educating yourself about these things.
I even asked two people who practice medicine if they knew what people were referring to when they used the phrase. They did not. They understood "markers", but that isn't how the phrase is used here. They figured it was kind of what you said, "cholesterol and whatnot" and that it meant nothing.
Markers and bands and such are generally fairly specific. They have their own names, etc.
"Health markers" - I'm starting to think it really has no meaning at all, not even to the people who use it.
Maybe it's another thing that has no meaning and everyone gets to choose for themselves what it means. Like "healthy".0 -
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I did look. Found nothing concrete.
I'm not asking about the Twinkie diet.
When you say "health markers", what, exactly do you mean?So you're telling me if someone wanted to gain weight they could eat at McDonald's every day and still be healthy? Wash down their grease infested fries down with coke and ice cream and still be healthy?? Sounds like a one way ticket to a heart attack. No sir, that's not healthy. Your diet does matter.
google the "twinkie diet"
guy ate nothing but twinkies maintained a calorie deficit, lost weight, and had better health markers..
so yea, you can eat mcdonalds and lose weight …however, it would not be best option for body comp purposes but for fat loss it would work.
I keep asking this, people keep not telling me, lol.
I assume you mean blood tests. Which tests, specifically, constitute "health markers"?
blood work ..cholesterol and what not …
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
go ahead and read for yourself...
I'm asking if this "health markers" phrase has some kind of agreed upon definition. "Cholesterol and whatnot" would lead me to believe it does not. Please let me know if I'm wrong.
go look it up yourself…I gave you the tools…
besides, you would benefit from educating yourself about these things.
I even asked two people who practice medicine if they knew what people were referring to when they used the phrase. They did not. They understood "markers", but that isn't how the phrase is used here. They figured it was kind of what you said, "cholesterol and whatnot" and that it meant nothing.
Markers and bands and such are generally fairly specific. They have their own names, etc.
"Health markers" - I'm starting to think it really has no meaning at all, not even to the people who use it.
Maybe it's another thing that has no meaning and everyone gets to choose for themselves what it means. Like "healthy".
so you already asked a dr in ten minutes..that is impressive..
it is generally understood to be a term dealing with general blood work and cholesterol levels….0 -
http://www.dietdoctor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Numbers.png
Markers and bands and such are generally fairly specific. They have their own names, etc.
"Health markers" - I'm starting to think it really has no meaning at all, not even to the people who use it.
Maybe it's another thing that has no meaning and everyone gets to choose for themselves what it means. Like "healthy".0 -
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Gotcha.
I did look. Found nothing concrete.
I'm not asking about the Twinkie diet.
When you say "health markers", what, exactly do you mean?So you're telling me if someone wanted to gain weight they could eat at McDonald's every day and still be healthy? Wash down their grease infested fries down with coke and ice cream and still be healthy?? Sounds like a one way ticket to a heart attack. No sir, that's not healthy. Your diet does matter.
google the "twinkie diet"
guy ate nothing but twinkies maintained a calorie deficit, lost weight, and had better health markers..
so yea, you can eat mcdonalds and lose weight …however, it would not be best option for body comp purposes but for fat loss it would work.
I keep asking this, people keep not telling me, lol.
I assume you mean blood tests. Which tests, specifically, constitute "health markers"?
blood work ..cholesterol and what not …
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
go ahead and read for yourself...
I'm asking if this "health markers" phrase has some kind of agreed upon definition. "Cholesterol and whatnot" would lead me to believe it does not. Please let me know if I'm wrong.
go look it up yourself…I gave you the tools…
besides, you would benefit from educating yourself about these things.
I even asked two people who practice medicine if they knew what people were referring to when they used the phrase. They did not. They understood "markers", but that isn't how the phrase is used here. They figured it was kind of what you said, "cholesterol and whatnot" and that it meant nothing.
Markers and bands and such are generally fairly specific. They have their own names, etc.
"Health markers" - I'm starting to think it really has no meaning at all, not even to the people who use it.
Maybe it's another thing that has no meaning and everyone gets to choose for themselves what it means. Like "healthy".
so you already asked a dr in ten minutes..that is impressive..
it is generally understood to be a term dealing with general blood work and cholesterol levels….
I've been trying to get a definition for a while. It isn't that impressive, even if I did just ask now, lol.
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Gotcha.
I did look. Found nothing concrete.
I'm not asking about the Twinkie diet.
When you say "health markers", what, exactly do you mean?So you're telling me if someone wanted to gain weight they could eat at McDonald's every day and still be healthy? Wash down their grease infested fries down with coke and ice cream and still be healthy?? Sounds like a one way ticket to a heart attack. No sir, that's not healthy. Your diet does matter.
google the "twinkie diet"
guy ate nothing but twinkies maintained a calorie deficit, lost weight, and had better health markers..
so yea, you can eat mcdonalds and lose weight …however, it would not be best option for body comp purposes but for fat loss it would work.
I keep asking this, people keep not telling me, lol.
I assume you mean blood tests. Which tests, specifically, constitute "health markers"?
blood work ..cholesterol and what not …
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
go ahead and read for yourself...
I'm asking if this "health markers" phrase has some kind of agreed upon definition. "Cholesterol and whatnot" would lead me to believe it does not. Please let me know if I'm wrong.
go look it up yourself…I gave you the tools…
besides, you would benefit from educating yourself about these things.
I even asked two people who practice medicine if they knew what people were referring to when they used the phrase. They did not. They understood "markers", but that isn't how the phrase is used here. They figured it was kind of what you said, "cholesterol and whatnot" and that it meant nothing.
Markers and bands and such are generally fairly specific. They have their own names, etc.
"Health markers" - I'm starting to think it really has no meaning at all, not even to the people who use it.
Maybe it's another thing that has no meaning and everyone gets to choose for themselves what it means. Like "healthy".
so you already asked a dr in ten minutes..that is impressive..
it is generally understood to be a term dealing with general blood work and cholesterol levels….
or had you previously asked and you had a preconceived notion in your head and you were trying to be sneaky ….??
some people are so easy to read...0 -
EvgeniZyntx wrote: »
cackling....this is just so wrong...gag0 -
Liftng4Lis wrote: »
http://www.dietdoctor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Numbers.png
Markers and bands and such are generally fairly specific. They have their own names, etc.
"Health markers" - I'm starting to think it really has no meaning at all, not even to the people who use it.
Maybe it's another thing that has no meaning and everyone gets to choose for themselves what it means. Like "healthy".
Even better and thanks! 0 -
Calliope610 wrote: »imho, there is no "bad" food, just bad eating decisions - like eating an entire bag of chips or box of Twinkies in one sitting. Chips and Twinkies aren't bad by definition; Eating the entire bag is. Of course, this also applies to eating the entire bag of those "healthy" nuts.
Yes, I agree.
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I did look. Found nothing concrete.
I'm not asking about the Twinkie diet.
When you say "health markers", what, exactly do you mean?So you're telling me if someone wanted to gain weight they could eat at McDonald's every day and still be healthy? Wash down their grease infested fries down with coke and ice cream and still be healthy?? Sounds like a one way ticket to a heart attack. No sir, that's not healthy. Your diet does matter.
google the "twinkie diet"
guy ate nothing but twinkies maintained a calorie deficit, lost weight, and had better health markers..
so yea, you can eat mcdonalds and lose weight …however, it would not be best option for body comp purposes but for fat loss it would work.
I keep asking this, people keep not telling me, lol.
I assume you mean blood tests. Which tests, specifically, constitute "health markers"?
blood work ..cholesterol and what not …
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
go ahead and read for yourself...
I'm asking if this "health markers" phrase has some kind of agreed upon definition. "Cholesterol and whatnot" would lead me to believe it does not. Please let me know if I'm wrong.
go look it up yourself…I gave you the tools…
besides, you would benefit from educating yourself about these things.
I even asked two people who practice medicine if they knew what people were referring to when they used the phrase. They did not. They understood "markers", but that isn't how the phrase is used here. They figured it was kind of what you said, "cholesterol and whatnot" and that it meant nothing.
Markers and bands and such are generally fairly specific. They have their own names, etc.
"Health markers" - I'm starting to think it really has no meaning at all, not even to the people who use it.
Maybe it's another thing that has no meaning and everyone gets to choose for themselves what it means. Like "healthy".
There is no standard set measure of "health markers" but in general terms what might be included are
Blood pressure
BF%
urine albumin
LDL/HDL
fasting plasma glucose
A1c
HbA1c
CRP
and things like VO2 max, HR return to resting, etc...
Those used in a study are defined in a protocol - if your two friends are unable to at least mention three then they don't read many articles involving health markers. The term is used in the literature.0
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