Hi. Trying to gain

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  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Also- can you explain how you're a fruitarian but sugar is bad?
    -
    Because dollars to delicious doughnuts (I'll eat those for you though since I know you won't be) I bet that you eat way more sugar than I do- and I'm an ice cream monger.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Because it has always been hard for me to gain weight just eating a normal diet and this is what it working for me but I don't want to do it long term.

    it's hard for you to gain weight because you aren't eating enough.

    And trying to bulk on a fruititaian diet isn't going to work well- clearly- or you woulnd't be asking the questions.

    You need OTHER foods.

    and no- ice cream bugers and pizza are not junk- it's just food.

    Do you not eat meat??

    Yes it is! I go to school for nutrition so I know what the hell junk food is. You can eat that but I'm not.

    They teach you in school that ice cream is junk food? With no context?

    I don't really care what you label it as, but it seems as though you are actually saying it is 'junk', whatever that means.

    If you are taking nutrition, then look up the requirements for MSP.

    It is full of sugar, chemicals, additives, toxins, gmos. That is *kitten*. You must not know what GMOS are.

    Oh Em Gee,

    What is wrong with sugar? You do know all that fruit you eat contais is

    What chemicals does it contain that are harmful in ay reasonable dose?

    What additives and which ones are harmful

    Which toxins?

    What about GMO's? - and which ice cream are you eating that contain them?

    Yes, I know what GMOs are, but I suspect

    Read the *kitten* ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives and gmos. And get the *kitten* off my thread.

    Why would we get off your thread? There's no point to the thread, so it's not like it's off topic. You have an account and can post what you like. So can we. See how that works?
  • sardelsa
    sardelsa Posts: 9,812 Member
    @asiawilson_ this isn't your private journal or blog btw, you posted this in a public forum.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    edited January 2015
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Because it has always been hard for me to gain weight just eating a normal diet and this is what it working for me but I don't want to do it long term.

    it's hard for you to gain weight because you aren't eating enough.

    And trying to bulk on a fruititaian diet isn't going to work well- clearly- or you woulnd't be asking the questions.

    You need OTHER foods.

    and no- ice cream bugers and pizza are not junk- it's just food.

    Do you not eat meat??

    Yes it is! I go to school for nutrition so I know what the hell junk food is. You can eat that but I'm not.

    They teach you in school that ice cream is junk food? With no context?

    I don't really care what you label it as, but it seems as though you are actually saying it is 'junk', whatever that means.

    If you are taking nutrition, then look up the requirements for MSP.

    It is full of sugar, chemicals, additives, toxins, gmos. That is *kitten*. You must not know what GMOS are.

    Oh Em Gee,

    What is wrong with sugar? You do know all that fruit you eat contais is

    What chemicals does it contain that are harmful in ay reasonable dose?

    What additives and which ones are harmful

    Which toxins?

    What about GMO's? - and which ice cream are you eating that contain them?

    Yes, I know what GMOs are, but I suspect that you do not

    Read the *kitten* ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives and gmos. And get the *kitten* off my thread.

    Please be specific about these additives, chemicals, GMOs and toxins...after all, you are learning about nutrition.

    Also, I can post here if I like.

    Also, I would suggest you read the Ts&Cs - I am pretty sure swearing at someone is against them

    Edited to fix quotes.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    sardelsa wrote: »
    Wow it seems we are all wasting our time and good advice here. She clearly isn't looking for help. If anyone needs me, I am going to be at the gym working hard on my booty followed by a delicious meal of protein pancakes topped with syrup and ice cream. The rest of you are free to join me :)

    Yep. It would appear that you are correct. Have a good one!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    well this degenerated quickly...
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Read the ***** ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives and gmos. And get the ***** off my thread.

    Okay- I'll induldge you

    milk
    cream
    sugar
    whey
    natural tara gum
    natural flavor


    boom. delicious. done.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Read the ***** ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives and gmos. And get the ***** off my thread.

    Okay- I'll induldge you

    milk
    cream
    sugar
    whey
    natural tara gum
    natural flavor


    boom. delicious. done.

    You're going to die.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    OP - If you really want to add weight, then you need to reexamine how you view food. The people in this thread - like sarah, jo rocka and sardelsa - have had success with bulking and cutting and you really should take their advice...
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Because it has always been hard for me to gain weight just eating a normal diet and this is what it working for me but I don't want to do it long term.

    it's hard for you to gain weight because you aren't eating enough.

    And trying to bulk on a fruititaian diet isn't going to work well- clearly- or you woulnd't be asking the questions.

    You need OTHER foods.

    and no- ice cream bugers and pizza are not junk- it's just food.

    Do you not eat meat??

    Yes it is! I go to school for nutrition so I know what the hell junk food is. You can eat that but I'm not.

    They teach you in school that ice cream is junk food? With no context?

    I don't really care what you label it as, but it seems as though you are actually saying it is 'junk', whatever that means.

    If you are taking nutrition, then look up the requirements for MSP.

    It is full of sugar, chemicals, additives, toxins, gmos. That is *kitten*. You must not know what GMOS are.

    Oh Em Gee,

    What is wrong with sugar? You do know all that fruit you eat contais is

    What chemicals does it contain that are harmful in ay reasonable dose?

    What additives and which ones are harmful

    Which toxins?

    What about GMO's? - and which ice cream are you eating that contain them?

    Yes, I know what GMOs are, but I suspect

    Read the *kitten* ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives and gmos. And get the *kitten* off my thread.

    Why would we get off your thread? There's no point to the thread, so it's not like it's off topic. You have an account and can post what you like. So can we. See how that works?

    Didn't you know that you are not allowed to post in someone's own personal private thread unless you agreed with them?

  • aylajane
    aylajane Posts: 979 Member
    edited January 2015
    I'm on a 80 10 10 diet..which means I'm suppose to consume at least 2,000 calories from fruit and then add some veggies in just for balance. I do not eat wheat/gluten, milk, or processed sugar. Thanks

    Bolded part made me giggle. Nothing "balanced" whatsoever about this...
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    edited January 2015
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Read the ***** ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives and gmos. And get the ***** off my thread.

    Okay- I'll induldge you

    milk
    cream
    sugar
    whey
    natural tara gum
    natural flavor


    boom. delicious. done.

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  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    auddii wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Read the ***** ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives and gmos. And get the ***** off my thread.

    Okay- I'll induldge you

    milk
    cream
    sugar
    whey
    natural tara gum
    natural flavor


    boom. delicious. done.

    You're going to die.

    you know- funny thing- I thought I was going to die anyway?

    So- if I DON"T eat the ice cream are you saying I'm immortal?

    I mean- I might have to weigh that carefully - because I REALLY REALLY REALLY. like moose tracks.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Read the ***** ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives and gmos. And get the ***** off my thread.

    Okay- I'll induldge you

    milk
    cream
    sugar
    whey
    natural tara gum
    natural flavor


    boom. delicious. done.

    You're going to die.

    you know- funny thing- I thought I was going to die anyway?

    So- if I DON"T eat the ice cream are you saying I'm immortal?

    I mean- I might have to weigh that carefully - because I REALLY REALLY REALLY. like moose tracks.

    I sure hope not eating ice cream doesn't make you immortal. That would mean fruititarians would rule the earth. And Hitler. I'm pretty sure Hitler didn't like ice cream either...
  • ForecasterJason
    ForecasterJason Posts: 2,577 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Read the ***** ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives

    Okay- I'll induldge you

    milk
    cream
    sugar
    whey
    natural tara gum
    natural flavor


    boom. delicious. done.
    I'm not saying that those ingredients are bad, but she is right--they are additives.

  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Read the ***** ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives

    Okay- I'll induldge you

    milk
    cream
    sugar
    whey
    natural tara gum
    natural flavor


    boom. delicious. done.
    I'm not saying that those ingredients are bad, but she is right--they are additives.

    dude, just go away and stay away from the gaining thread ...seriously..

    you are scared to bulk, scared to gain weight, always have an excuse and then you come up with some crap like this...

    #justgiveup
  • ForecasterJason
    ForecasterJason Posts: 2,577 Member
    ^^Way to derail the thread, lol. What I stated was a fact, so nothing wrong with that. (But of course I'm going to take heat for it simply because of my past post history…)
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    ^^Way to derail the thread, lol. What I stated was a fact, so nothing wrong with that. (But of course I'm going to take heat for it simply because of my past post history…)

    thread was de-railed on page 2 ...

    but seriously just stop giving advice until you can figure out your own situation ...
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Read the ***** ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives

    Okay- I'll induldge you

    milk
    cream
    sugar
    whey
    natural tara gum
    natural flavor


    boom. delicious. done.
    I'm not saying that those ingredients are bad, but she is right--they are additives.

    yes- they are additives- you ADD them all together to get ice cream.

    without them they are just milk, cream, sugar, and whey.... individually- but i don't want to eat milk- I want ice cream- so I add all the things together- BOOM- 1+ 1+ 1+1= 4... which is delicious ice cream.

    I don't even get what you're trying to say.
    I sure hope not eating ice cream doesn't make you immortal. That would mean fruititarians would rule the earth. And Hitler. I'm pretty sure Hitler didn't like ice cream either...

    well- if eating ice cream means you're going to die- and we all know correlation = causation- that means NOT eating ice cream = NOT dying.

    I guess fruititarians and hitler rule- except hitler at some point ate ice cream- because I *think* that he is dead.

    so - I guess the double chocolate truffle toxins got him!
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Read the ***** ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives

    Okay- I'll induldge you

    milk
    cream
    sugar
    whey
    natural tara gum
    natural flavor


    boom. delicious. done.
    I'm not saying that those ingredients are bad, but she is right--they are additives.

    What is your definition of an additive?


  • ForecasterJason
    ForecasterJason Posts: 2,577 Member
    edited January 2015
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Read the ***** ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives

    Okay- I'll induldge you

    milk
    cream
    sugar
    whey
    natural tara gum
    natural flavor


    boom. delicious. done.
    I'm not saying that those ingredients are bad, but she is right--they are additives.

    What is your definition of an additive?

    Something that is not a basic ingredient needed for the food or that would significantly enhance flavor, texture, etc. Maybe the natural flavor could stay, but I doubt anyone eating that ice-cream could tell whether or not they added the gum. An even better example would be in the "define healthy food" thread in which I mentioned the silicon and other "stuff" that Dominoes has in their pizza.

  • BlueBombers
    BlueBombers Posts: 4,064 Member
    Just here for entertainment purposes B)
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Read the ***** ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives

    Okay- I'll induldge you

    milk
    cream
    sugar
    whey
    natural tara gum
    natural flavor


    boom. delicious. done.
    I'm not saying that those ingredients are bad, but she is right--they are additives.

    What is your definition of an additive?

    Something that is not a basic ingredient needed for the food or that would significantly enhance flavor, texture, etc. An even better example would be in the "define healthy food" thread in which I mentioned the silicon and other "stuff" that Dominoes has in their pizza.

    Not sure that those items significantly enhances flavors or textures - seems pretty nebulous.

    Would not all toppings on pizza be an additive then?
  • chivalryder
    chivalryder Posts: 4,391 Member
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  • Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Read the ***** ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives

    Okay- I'll induldge you

    milk
    cream
    sugar
    whey
    natural tara gum
    natural flavor


    boom. delicious. done.
    I'm not saying that those ingredients are bad, but she is right--they are additives.

    What is your definition of an additive?

    Something that is not a basic ingredient needed for the food or that would significantly enhance flavor, texture, etc. An even better example would be in the "define healthy food" thread in which I mentioned the silicon and other "stuff" that Dominoes has in their pizza.

    Not sure that those items significantly enhances flavors or textures - seems pretty nebulous.

    Would not all toppings on pizza be an additive then?

    That would be a topping not an additive lol
  • MarziPanda95
    MarziPanda95 Posts: 1,326 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Read the ***** ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives

    Okay- I'll induldge you

    milk
    cream
    sugar
    whey
    natural tara gum
    natural flavor


    boom. delicious. done.
    I'm not saying that those ingredients are bad, but she is right--they are additives.

    What is your definition of an additive?

    Something that is not a basic ingredient needed for the food or that would significantly enhance flavor, texture, etc. Maybe the natural flavor could stay, but I doubt anyone eating that ice-cream could tell whether or not they added the gum. An even better example would be in the "define healthy food" thread in which I mentioned the silicon and other "stuff" that Dominoes has in their pizza.

    Or you could actually research why they put gum in ice cream. It's just a stabiliser. It helps with the texture. By adding natural gums, ice cream is less likely to melt and when it does melt, the fat and water don't break out of emulsion, so when the ice cream re-freezes it doesn't turn icy.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    edited January 2015
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Read the ***** ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives

    Okay- I'll induldge you

    milk
    cream
    sugar
    whey
    natural tara gum
    natural flavor


    boom. delicious. done.
    I'm not saying that those ingredients are bad, but she is right--they are additives.

    What is your definition of an additive?

    Something that is not a basic ingredient needed for the food or that would significantly enhance flavor, texture, etc. An even better example would be in the "define healthy food" thread in which I mentioned the silicon and other "stuff" that Dominoes has in their pizza.

    Not sure that those items significantly enhances flavors or textures - seems pretty nebulous.

    Would not all toppings on pizza be an additive then?

    That would be a topping not an additive lol

    Read the description given that I was responding to.

    Also, it's called a conversation/discussion...something that you appear not to be able to grasp the concept of.



    oh, and


    lol.

  • chivalryder
    chivalryder Posts: 4,391 Member
    When I put whiskey into my coffee, it's an additive. I guess I'm going to die, but at least I'll die happy.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I shudder to think what nutrition school/course is teaching people to do 80/10/10 (low protein) when cutting and paleo (high protein) when bulking.

  • ForecasterJason
    ForecasterJason Posts: 2,577 Member
    Sarauk2sf wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    Read the ***** ingredients on any ice cream. They are full of additives

    Okay- I'll induldge you

    milk
    cream
    sugar
    whey
    natural tara gum
    natural flavor


    boom. delicious. done.
    I'm not saying that those ingredients are bad, but she is right--they are additives.

    What is your definition of an additive?

    Something that is not a basic ingredient needed for the food or that would significantly enhance flavor, texture, etc. Maybe the natural flavor could stay, but I doubt anyone eating that ice-cream could tell whether or not they added the gum. An even better example would be in the "define healthy food" thread in which I mentioned the silicon and other "stuff" that Dominoes has in their pizza.

    Or you could actually research why they put gum in ice cream. It's just a stabiliser. It helps with the texture. By adding natural gums, ice cream is less likely to melt and when it does melt, the fat and water don't break out of emulsion, so when the ice cream re-freezes it doesn't turn icy.
    Yeah, but even still, I've had homemade ice cream, and I think the difference in how long each one takes to melt is close to being negligible.

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