Great new video which shows REAL women training!
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"Great new video which shows REAL women training!"
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"Great new video which shows the stereotypical type of "real" women who are not in the greatest shape but are trying really hard and may only be just beginning and not the stereotypical fitness model who is also a "real" woman but that a lot of people think crowd the gym and will snicker and make fun of the others just beginning even though they wouldn't and understand that it's hard work and everyone has to start somewhere training!"
there I fixed it ... this is only my opinion on what the OP meant
Perfect! Do you think it'll fit into that wee box for thread title?
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thanks for posting an inspirational video.0
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I understand the point of the video, but legitimate question here - Why is average motivating? It's a video of a bunch of overweight women working out. Do other overweight women need to see that video to realize that they can work out, too?
I get that different people respond to different things, but this is something I've never been able to understand. How is seeing someone just like you motivating? Don't you want to be better than you currently are? So wouldn't someone a little further along in their journey be more inspiring?
And for those talking about "real" women in this video vs supermodels - do you realize the chasm that exists between those 2 groups??? I can't help but feel a certain degree of self defeatism (how's that for a term, lol) coming from stuff like this. Well, I'll never be a VS model, so I'll just be happy to be average. Screw average.
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The use of the word "girl" was one problem I had with the video, given that it depicts women. I guess it was a small enough word to fit in that box? Perhaps the target audience identify with the word "girl"?
I'm also not sure about the focus on "hot" and "foxy", but again as a woman who is already physically active and aware of feminist issues, I guess I'm not the target audience.
I think it's a great video for an important issue.0 -
@jacksonpt I understand what you are saying, but have come across a simliar idea elsewhere. When trying to get girls to choose subjects such as science and engineering careers, using highly attractive role models is not a successful strategy because the girls can't relate.0
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It's a UK video. I think it hits all types of demographics (age, race, all types of difference) and I suppose it has its flaws but I still found it motivating!
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I understand the point of the video, but legitimate question here - Why is average motivating? It's a video of a bunch of overweight women working out. Do other overweight women need to see that video to realize that they can work out, too?
I get that different people respond to different things, but this is something I've never been able to understand. How is seeing someone just like you motivating? Don't you want to be better than you currently are? So wouldn't someone a little further along in their journey be more inspiring?
And for those talking about "real" women in this video vs supermodels - do you realize the chasm that exists between those 2 groups??? I can't help but feel a certain degree of self defeatism (how's that for a term, lol) coming from stuff like this. Well, I'll never be a VS model, so I'll just be happy to be average. Screw average.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgo4yBeQSOE
You have some good questions. I myself say that mediocrity is not motivating at all. It can be encouraging to see someone like you workout but not motivating to me. I need someone up in the elite status of athletes to be motivating to workout.
I am with that too screw average. Maybe that why I like the site t nation because it is about people way above my fitness tells us that you can become elite but it takes work and dedication to get there that I am willing to do.
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I understand the point of the video, but legitimate question here - Why is average motivating? It's a video of a bunch of overweight women working out. Do other overweight women need to see that video to realize that they can work out, too?
I get that different people respond to different things, but this is something I've never been able to understand. How is seeing someone just like you motivating? Don't you want to be better than you currently are? So wouldn't someone a little further along in their journey be more inspiring?
And for those talking about "real" women in this video vs supermodels - do you realize the chasm that exists between those 2 groups??? I can't help but feel a certain degree of self defeatism (how's that for a term, lol) coming from stuff like this. Well, I'll never be a VS model, so I'll just be happy to be average. Screw average.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgo4yBeQSOE
People respond to different types of motivation. Others feel defeated by the same images or messages that make others buzz with enthusiasm.
For me, I like seeing pictures or images of women closer to my own demographic for several reasons which are personal and I don't feel like a flame fest this afternoon.
Suffice it to say, not all of us aspire to be really super fit and lean and strong and supermodels. There are plenty of avenues for motivation if that's what you're aiming for, but if you're someone who has been sedentary most or all of your life, just seeing a less fit person on the street running wearing just a sports bra and training shorts is inspiring.
Diff strokes for diff folks.
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So many hashtags.This Girl Can (and the hashtag #thisgirlcan on Twitter) is the name of a campaign set up by Sport England, the government agency for grassroots sport, to boost the number of women doing exercise.
Here I was wondering if I could find any thai ladyboys. Nope, looked all like "real" women.
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Remember, this is a public service message to encourage those who are unfamiliar with the benefits of exercise to just start, no matter how slowly or simply. Some people may be too intimidated to go to a gym to lift or run on the street, but the group activities suit them better (the football, volleyball, badminton type) because they're not under pressure.
Any movement is better than sitting at home eating bikkies on the couch! It's about getting people to move even a bit.0 -
That was beautiful o.o0
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I'm in love with this.
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I understand the point of the video, but legitimate question here - Why is average motivating? It's a video of a bunch of overweight women working out. Do other overweight women need to see that video to realize that they can work out, too?
I get that different people respond to different things, but this is something I've never been able to understand. How is seeing someone just like you motivating? Don't you want to be better than you currently are? So wouldn't someone a little further along in their journey be more inspiring?
And for those talking about "real" women in this video vs supermodels - do you realize the chasm that exists between those 2 groups??? I can't help but feel a certain degree of self defeatism (how's that for a term, lol) coming from stuff like this. Well, I'll never be a VS model, so I'll just be happy to be average. Screw average.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgo4yBeQSOE
A few things on this:
1. I'm not sure if many of the posters in this thread are purposely acting blind or what but there are plenty of non-overweight women in this video. Just to be sure I wasn't crazy, I went back and checked and see non-overweight women at 0:05, 0:07/0:08, 0:19, 0:30-0:35, 0:42-0:47, and so on. If you pay attention to everything going on in the video, the proportion of overweight to non-overweight women (and I wish there was a better way to express this as I obviously don't know their weights but am referring to someone who at best guess I would think was in the "healthy weight range" for her height) is fairly close to 50/50.
2. I think there is a difference between motivating and encouraging, or at least motivating and making feel less self-conscious. In the early months of losing weight, I felt very embarrassed to exercise in public. I routinely ran at dusk so that I could at least feel like people wouldn't see me as much and realize "hey, there's that fat lady from down the street, attempting to run." Now would they have even thought that? Who knows. But the fact is that is how I felt and how many overweight/out of shape people feel. Seeing somebody else who is in similar shape get out there, seem to say "whatever" to the idea of people whispering about him/her can give an overweight/out of shape person a bit of vicarious bravery, enough to get out the door and start exercising too.
3. This goes along with my second point but there are a lot of people who are so overweight/out of shape that seeing a person "further along in their journey" is the absolute opposite of inspiring. For me, looking at an athlete like, let's say, Venus or Serena Williams, did nothing for me as a fat woman. Screw amazing strength and endurance and an awesome body. I wanted to be able to scratch my own back, to not be too embarrassed to have my picture taken with my daughter, to not be winded walking up a flight of stairs, etc. Great athletes were not relatable and, frankly, they still aren't, to me. I look at them and think "their full time jobs support absolute fitness and their days are built around it. I'm never going to be in that type of situation because it's just not my lifestyle. I'm doing the best with what I am and the life I can realistically live." When somebody asks me whose body I'd like to have, I don't answer with a known athlete or celebrity of any type. My answer is "my body but with a bit less fat around the middle." I don't think that wanting to be a better version of myself is self-defeatism.0 -
I understand the point of the video, but legitimate question here - Why is average motivating? It's a video of a bunch of overweight women working out. Do other overweight women need to see that video to realize that they can work out, too?
I get that different people respond to different things, but this is something I've never been able to understand. How is seeing someone just like you motivating? Don't you want to be better than you currently are? So wouldn't someone a little further along in their journey be more inspiring?
And for those talking about "real" women in this video vs supermodels - do you realize the chasm that exists between those 2 groups??? I can't help but feel a certain degree of self defeatism (how's that for a term, lol) coming from stuff like this. Well, I'll never be a VS model, so I'll just be happy to be average. Screw average.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgo4yBeQSOE
Ooo!! Good Questions. I think it comes down to self-confidence. A women who is not self-confident and has self-image issues might see a very fit woman and think: "I can never be like her. I cannot do that, I am too ___ (fat, slow, short, etc.). I shouldn't even try b/c I will look stupid."
I love seeing fit women and being inspired, but my self-confidence, when it comes to my body, is awesome. But I also find it inspiring to see a woman who is as over weight as I, being able to do pull ups and pushups and the things that I am trying to learn to do. Seeing that has made me realize that I do not need to "wait until I drop 30 lbs" to be able to work at doing pull ups. I can train to do pull ups NOW - at my current weight.
You asked this: "Do other overweight women need to see that video to realize that they can work out, too?" And the answer is - yes... some women DO need to see that. Some women need to work UP to "average" first.0 -
This video has brought up some interesting questions. Ultimately I'm not a fan of the "real" women talk that I see so often, as all women are real women, in many different ways.
I do think that this could be motivating for women who don't think they can exercise, or don't feel comfortable exercising because of their weight/image/whatever. Showing women who don't fit into the fitness model mold is good. For people who are motivated by the look of a fitness model--there is plenty of that out there elsewhere. Ultimately this is promoting health and I'm not going to nitpick that too much.0 -
There's one major issue with the "real" women bs.
It is not inclusive at all. It rejects people who have differing bodies from the median, and it directly excludes people who are in the process or have transitioned to being female.
It also excludes people who identify as female in their day to day lives, even if not anatomically so.
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Remember, this is a public service message to encourage those who are unfamiliar with the benefits of exercise to just start, no matter how slowly or simply. Some people may be too intimidated to go to a gym to lift or run on the street, but the group activities suit them better (the football, volleyball, badminton type) because they're not under pressure.
Any movement is better than sitting at home eating bikkies on the couch! It's about getting people to move even a bit.
If these people can see this- odds are they have the internet and other sources of information at their hands- hell even a public library.
There is no secret club. None of us are in a club- we chose to do something and we are going to go do it. we are DOING it.
You don't need an invitation- I personally dislike the idea of government motivation because how sad are you that you need your government to tell you that sitting on your couch for 24 hrs a day isn't healthy and that going out to do something physically active is better for you.
Go.Do.A.Thing.
no matter what shape or size- anything. just go do A. thing. If you cant' figure out how to go for a walk on your own- this video isn't going to do anything for you.-2 -
Remember, this is a public service message to encourage those who are unfamiliar with the benefits of exercise to just start, no matter how slowly or simply. Some people may be too intimidated to go to a gym to lift or run on the street, but the group activities suit them better (the football, volleyball, badminton type) because they're not under pressure.
Any movement is better than sitting at home eating bikkies on the couch! It's about getting people to move even a bit.
If these people can see this- odds are they have the internet and other sources of information at their hands- hell even a public library.
There is no secret club. None of us are in a club- we chose to do something and we are going to go do it. we are DOING it.
You don't need an invitation- I personally dislike the idea of government motivation because how sad are you that you need your government to tell you that sitting on your couch for 24 hrs a day isn't healthy and that going out to do something physically active is better for you.
Go.Do.A.Thing.
no matter what shape or size- anything. just go do A. thing. If you cant' figure out how to go for a walk on your own- this video isn't going to do anything for you.
Well we all know that the average person in this country does no exercise. I find that to be really sad.
I remember reading a mens health mag before and seeing that the average male who weights 175 cannot bench press 135. Like what. Wow that low.
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people in general make me sad.0
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I often wonder if I walked up to someone who maybe hadn't had a good experience in their academic life and had not really developed their intellectual capacities and I said. ..."Why are you not motivated when watching this video promoting getting a PhD in Atmospheric Physics? Just do it! You'll never get there if you don't start NOW. Start with night classes in basic maths and then work your way up! Are you lazy? "
Ya see, for some of us, some things are more challenging than for others. You're very fortunate that your body is amenable to exercise and you are strong and fit. Combination of your hard work, dedication and genes. I applaud you.
I wish I had that natural physical confidence. I don't and I never will but I still try my best.
On the other hand, I'm extremely confident and relaxed in advanced education and academia. Nothing about it makes me anxious or uptight.
Think about it.0 -
I often wonder if I walked up to someone who maybe hadn't had a good experience in their academic life and had not really developed their intellectual capacities and I said. ..."Why are you not motivated when watching this video promoting getting a PhD in Atmospheric Physics? Just do it! You'll never get there if you don't start NOW. Start with night classes in basic maths and then work your way up! Are you lazy? "
Ya see, for some of us, some things are more challenging than for others. You're very fortunate that your body is amenable to exercise and you are strong and fit. Combination of your hard work, dedication and genes. I applaud you.
I wish I had that natural physical confidence. I don't and I never will but I still try my best.
On the other hand, I'm extremely confident and relaxed in advanced education and academia. Nothing about it makes me anxious or uptight.
Think about it.
I wish that I could click a Like button for this post. It is so spot on and really resonates with me.
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I think that's part of the problem... I think a lot of people DO feel like they need an invitation to get started. I think it is rare for people to get up and just get started - without some sort of spark to get the fires going. And I think those people often look at those that work out and get healthy as metaphorically, at least, being a "club".0 -
Remember, this is a public service message to encourage those who are unfamiliar with the benefits of exercise to just start, no matter how slowly or simply. Some people may be too intimidated to go to a gym to lift or run on the street, but the group activities suit them better (the football, volleyball, badminton type) because they're not under pressure.
Any movement is better than sitting at home eating bikkies on the couch! It's about getting people to move even a bit.
If these people can see this- odds are they have the internet and other sources of information at their hands- hell even a public library.
There is no secret club. None of us are in a club- we chose to do something and we are going to go do it. we are DOING it.
You don't need an invitation- I personally dislike the idea of government motivation because how sad are you that you need your government to tell you that sitting on your couch for 24 hrs a day isn't healthy and that going out to do something physically active is better for you.
Go.Do.A.Thing.
no matter what shape or size- anything. just go do A. thing. If you cant' figure out how to go for a walk on your own- this video isn't going to do anything for you.
Thanks for this. You said it better than I could. I guess what I find so annoying about this is that it treats women like we're delicate flowers who need to be told that it's okay to workout and to sweat. It seems like coddling and promotes the idea that we are somehow not capable of grasping the idea that we are, in fact, allowed to go to the gym.0 -
I often wonder if I walked up to someone who maybe hadn't had a good experience in their academic life and had not really developed their intellectual capacities and I said. ..."Why are you not motivated when watching this video promoting getting a PhD in Atmospheric Physics? Just do it! You'll never get there if you don't start NOW. Start with night classes in basic maths and then work your way up! Are you lazy? "
Ya see, for some of us, some things are more challenging than for others. You're very fortunate that your body is amenable to exercise and you are strong and fit. Combination of your hard work, dedication and genes. I applaud you.
I wish I had that natural physical confidence. I don't and I never will but I still try my best.
On the other hand, I'm extremely confident and relaxed in advanced education and academia. Nothing about it makes me anxious or uptight.
Think about it.
I wish that I could click a Like button for this post. It is so spot on and really resonates with me.
^^ This!!
When you watch the video, bear in mind that it's a public service announcement. It's geared toward the "average Joe/Jane" sitting at home watching Coronation Street on TV. It's a gentle nudge to get up and be more active. It's not an advert to train for the Olympics or run the Boston Marathon. If you're already fit and active, chances are you won't be sitting at home watching TV anyway and you'll likely not even see this. But for those of us who are aren't at that level of fitness and/or motivation, it's a nice change to see people we can relate to.0 -
I often wonder if I walked up to someone who maybe hadn't had a good experience in their academic life and had not really developed their intellectual capacities and I said. ..."Why are you not motivated when watching this video promoting getting a PhD in Atmospheric Physics? Just do it! You'll never get there if you don't start NOW. Start with night classes in basic maths and then work your way up! Are you lazy? "
Ya see, for some of us, some things are more challenging than for others. You're very fortunate that your body is amenable to exercise and you are strong and fit. Combination of your hard work, dedication and genes. I applaud you.
I wish I had that natural physical confidence. I don't and I never will but I still try my best.
On the other hand, I'm extremely confident and relaxed in advanced education and academia. Nothing about it makes me anxious or uptight.
Think about it.
That is not even on the same level of comparison. I had a horrible experience in college- and i still chose to educate myself.
Going for a walk is not higher learning and requires no extra anything other than some clothes and some shoes.
Hell you can walk in place inside your own house- you don't even need to go outside.
The comparison is so beyond weak it isn't funny. The reality is people don't know- and chose not to do anything about it- and then wonder why they feel scared about it.0 -
I had a horrible time in PE class. A
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I did too- and guess what- I got over it and changed myself.0
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W ahhhhhhhh you had a terrible time in college? ??0
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Well good for you. Have you ever looked around and realized that not everybody is JoRocka? I mean, sheesh, have a little compassion. Not everybody thinks/feels/acts the same way and no matter how much you agree or disagree with it, it's going to be a fact of life.0
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This is just pointless. Thanks to all those who read the whole thread and engaged in an intelligent manner. I'm done.0
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