rowlandsw wrote: » I just read that. I'm not surprised but i am shocked nobody died on that show. it's complete trash and anyone with a professional license involved should lose it be it the doctors or the trainers.
Kalikel wrote: » What is the reward for being the biggest loser? A lot of cash? Honestly never watched it. What do you win?
AllOutof_Bubblegum wrote: » Nobody forced these people to be on the show. They were all in it for the vanity, fame, and prize money to begin with. Can't really feel sorry for them agreeing to go to extremes for such superficial reasons. Zero sympathy on my end.
newmeadow wrote: » segacs wrote: » It's about whether NBC and the show's creators (and everyone associated with it) are responsible for the damage that they're doing to millions of people who watch. NBC's intentions are exploitative, reckless and profit driven, no doubt. But the damage this show causes or has the potential to cause does have to be agreed to. And with that said, I do feel sorry for anyone who signs up for the show and anyone duped into thinking this would be a good way to lose weight. I'm so glad I got rid of cable TV a year ago!
segacs wrote: » It's about whether NBC and the show's creators (and everyone associated with it) are responsible for the damage that they're doing to millions of people who watch.
newmeadow wrote: » tomatoey wrote: » newmeadow wrote: » segacs wrote: » It's about whether NBC and the show's creators (and everyone associated with it) are responsible for the damage that they're doing to millions of people who watch. NBC's intentions are exploitative, reckless and profit driven, no doubt. But the damage this show causes or has the potential to cause does have to be agreed to. And with that said, I do feel sorry for anyone who signs up for the show and anyone duped into thinking this would be a good way to lose weight. I'm so glad I got rid of cable TV a year ago! Do they really know what they're getting into, though? They probably don't, no. That's why I feel sorry for them. But it's up to them to investigate every angle independently before signing up or confer with someone in the know who is relatively unbiased. Plus, they've probably watched the show so although they may be unfamiliar with the real medical risks, they do have an inkling of the suffering and hardship involved.
tomatoey wrote: » newmeadow wrote: » segacs wrote: » It's about whether NBC and the show's creators (and everyone associated with it) are responsible for the damage that they're doing to millions of people who watch. NBC's intentions are exploitative, reckless and profit driven, no doubt. But the damage this show causes or has the potential to cause does have to be agreed to. And with that said, I do feel sorry for anyone who signs up for the show and anyone duped into thinking this would be a good way to lose weight. I'm so glad I got rid of cable TV a year ago! Do they really know what they're getting into, though?
segacs wrote: » It's not about sympathy for the contestants, though. You have to assume that when there's money and fame involved, there will always be people who are willing to do ridiculous things to get on TV. It's about whether NBC and the show's creators (and everyone associated with it) are responsible for the damage that they're doing to millions of people who watch. I say yes.
newmeadow wrote: » Aviva92 wrote: » but isn't it on nbc? that's not cable tv. Yes, but antennas don't work in my apartment so by getting rid of cable I unintentionally got rid of all TV. It was a difficult period of adjustment but now I'm fine with it and feel much better off for it
Aviva92 wrote: » but isn't it on nbc? that's not cable tv.
newmeadow wrote: » tomatoey wrote: » newmeadow wrote: » tomatoey wrote: » newmeadow wrote: » segacs wrote: » It's about whether NBC and the show's creators (and everyone associated with it) are responsible for the damage that they're doing to millions of people who watch. NBC's intentions are exploitative, reckless and profit driven, no doubt. But the damage this show causes or has the potential to cause does have to be agreed to. And with that said, I do feel sorry for anyone who signs up for the show and anyone duped into thinking this would be a good way to lose weight. I'm so glad I got rid of cable TV a year ago! Do they really know what they're getting into, though? They probably don't, no. That's why I feel sorry for them. But it's up to them to investigate every angle independently before signing up or confer with someone in the know who is relatively unbiased. Plus, they've probably watched the show so although they may be unfamiliar with the real medical risks, they do have an inkling of the suffering and hardship involved. If their sense of what's going to happen is from the finished show, they're just as deceived as other viewers There's definitely an element of deception built into the show, but the article posted by the OP and the subsequent responses on this thread are optimistically grounded in common sense, thank goodness!
tomatoey wrote: » newmeadow wrote: » tomatoey wrote: » newmeadow wrote: » segacs wrote: » It's about whether NBC and the show's creators (and everyone associated with it) are responsible for the damage that they're doing to millions of people who watch. NBC's intentions are exploitative, reckless and profit driven, no doubt. But the damage this show causes or has the potential to cause does have to be agreed to. And with that said, I do feel sorry for anyone who signs up for the show and anyone duped into thinking this would be a good way to lose weight. I'm so glad I got rid of cable TV a year ago! Do they really know what they're getting into, though? They probably don't, no. That's why I feel sorry for them. But it's up to them to investigate every angle independently before signing up or confer with someone in the know who is relatively unbiased. Plus, they've probably watched the show so although they may be unfamiliar with the real medical risks, they do have an inkling of the suffering and hardship involved. If their sense of what's going to happen is from the finished show, they're just as deceived as other viewers
tomatoey wrote: » newmeadow wrote: » tomatoey wrote: » newmeadow wrote: » tomatoey wrote: » newmeadow wrote: » segacs wrote: » It's about whether NBC and the show's creators (and everyone associated with it) are responsible for the damage that they're doing to millions of people who watch. NBC's intentions are exploitative, reckless and profit driven, no doubt. But the damage this show causes or has the potential to cause does have to be agreed to. And with that said, I do feel sorry for anyone who signs up for the show and anyone duped into thinking this would be a good way to lose weight. I'm so glad I got rid of cable TV a year ago! Do they really know what they're getting into, though? They probably don't, no. That's why I feel sorry for them. But it's up to them to investigate every angle independently before signing up or confer with someone in the know who is relatively unbiased. Plus, they've probably watched the show so although they may be unfamiliar with the real medical risks, they do have an inkling of the suffering and hardship involved. If their sense of what's going to happen is from the finished show, they're just as deceived as other viewers There's definitely an element of deception built into the show, but the article posted by the OP and the subsequent responses on this thread are optimistically grounded in common sense, thank goodness! Ok, so maybe those who went on the show have less common sense. Maybe they're less intelligent, even. (I'm not saying they are!) but what if they are. Or they're more desperate. Do they deserve to be treated like this? It's abusive.
Aviva92 wrote: » yeah, there's that point too. it bugs me when people are taken advantage of just because they are less intelligent. for those people, yeah, i feel bad for them.
ninerbuff wrote: » As a trainer, I really hate how portrayal of how to lose weight this way is acceptable. While impressive, what the show doesn't show are the 90% of contestants who gained back a SIGNIFICANT amount of weight (season 3 winner Erik Chopin was the exception and where is he now again?). The only contestants they show are those that kept it off (which is about 10% of them). Even Ali Vincent regained up to a weight of 170lbs (she's 5'5") after winning it at 122lbs. The reality is that that type of training regimen is never used even in weight loss clinics. Training people to complete exhaustion doesn't get them to keep doing it consistently. And while it's a competition, the network puts it out like this is THE WAY, that people should approach weight loss in real life.A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer IDEA Fitness member Kickboxing Certified Instructor Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Mr_Knight wrote: » Kalikel wrote: » What is the reward for being the biggest loser? A lot of cash? Honestly never watched it. What do you win? http://theashleysrealityroundup.com/2011/05/29/your-biggest-loser-questions-answered/ Q: Do the Biggest Losers get paid to be on the show? A: Yes, the make a stipend for being on the show. One season it was $900 a week but I don’t know how much it currently is. This is how some of the people are able to support their families despite being gone for so long.
newmeadow wrote: » tomatoey wrote: » newmeadow wrote: » tomatoey wrote: » newmeadow wrote: » tomatoey wrote: » newmeadow wrote: » segacs wrote: » It's about whether NBC and the show's creators (and everyone associated with it) are responsible for the damage that they're doing to millions of people who watch. NBC's intentions are exploitative, reckless and profit driven, no doubt. But the damage this show causes or has the potential to cause does have to be agreed to. And with that said, I do feel sorry for anyone who signs up for the show and anyone duped into thinking this would be a good way to lose weight. I'm so glad I got rid of cable TV a year ago! Do they really know what they're getting into, though? They probably don't, no. That's why I feel sorry for them. But it's up to them to investigate every angle independently before signing up or confer with someone in the know who is relatively unbiased. Plus, they've probably watched the show so although they may be unfamiliar with the real medical risks, they do have an inkling of the suffering and hardship involved. If their sense of what's going to happen is from the finished show, they're just as deceived as other viewers There's definitely an element of deception built into the show, but the article posted by the OP and the subsequent responses on this thread are optimistically grounded in common sense, thank goodness! Ok, so maybe those who went on the show have less common sense. Maybe they're less intelligent, even. (I'm not saying they are!) but what if they are. Or they're more desperate. Do they deserve to be treated like this? It's abusive. No, I don't think anyone deserves to be treated like this as, yes, it is abusive. As far as common sense goes, I think NBC knows exactly what its demographic is when it comes to who would be enticed to be a contestant on this show. And, yes, common sense, or more specifically, the lack of it would factor heavily into whether an individual would fall into that demographic. I'm not a Darwinist but the guy's theory, outside of pure biology, has some validity. Survival of the fittest (figuratively speaking) is something to considered here.
MoiAussi93 wrote: they ARE supervised by doctors. I think the 3 or 4 serious health issues the show has had are not that surprising considering how many contestants they have had over the years... All seriously obese. Most just have minor things most athletes or people trying to get in shape on their own deal with.
It's sad some of the people undid all the progress they made on the show... but I don't blame the show for that.
