Giving up diet soda. So hard!

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  • JonKinarthy
    JonKinarthy Posts: 44 Member
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    Lynette, this is how I gave up diet soda (did it 12/29/2012 and never went back). I woke up that morning and had a diet soda. Then I didn't have any until the first sign of a headache. At that point I had one can. Then I didn't have another can until the first sign of another headache. Then again. Each time the headaches got father and father apart. Then after about 4 days, I had one last can to stop the headache, and no headache came after that. At first I switched to water, but that didn't satisfy me. Then on the advice of a friend I started drinking water with lemon, and that lasted about a month. Then I switched to Hawaiian Punch sugar free grape in powder form. You mix one packet of powder in .5 liter of water. But that was much too sweet for me. So I experimented with different strengths and settled on one packet for 1.5 liters of water. Now I drink 3 liters of that per day(2 packets) and have no trouble avoiding soda.

    So I'm still having a diet drink, but one with fewer chemicals (and especially important, no BPA, that chemical I stopped drinking diet soda to.avoid in the first place.). Plus, I'm only having two drinks worth, instead of 2 liters of diet soda like I used to.

    Good luck!
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
    edited January 2015
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    Lynette, this is how I gave up diet soda (did it 12/29/2012 and never went back). I woke up that morning and had a diet soda. Then I didn't have any until the first sign of a headache. At that point I had one can. Then I didn't have another can until the first sign of another headache. Then again. Each time the headaches got father and father apart. Then after about 4 days, I had one last can to stop the headache, and no headache came after that. At first I switched to water, but that didn't satisfy me. Then on the advice of a friend I started drinking water with lemon, and that lasted about a month. Then I switched to Hawaiian Punch sugar free grape in powder form. You mix one packet of powder in .5 liter of water. But that was much too sweet for me. So I experimented with different strengths and settled on one packet for 1.5 liters of water. Now I drink 3 liters of that per day(2 packets) and have no trouble avoiding soda.

    So I'm still having a diet drink, but one with fewer chemicals (and especially important, no BPA, that chemical I stopped drinking diet soda to.avoid in the first place.). Plus, I'm only having two drinks worth, instead of 2 liters of diet soda like I used to.

    Good luck!

    that sounds like caffeine withdrawal and a how to in order to give up caffeine. that was not the o.p.'s issue since she said her diet soda was caffeine free.

    i never gave up caffeine. that's much harder than just giving up diet soda for me.
  • BinaryPulsar
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    I don't buy diet soda for my home. I instead reserve it as being something I can drink with my meal when out for dinner. I just like having something different to drink with a restaurant meal. And if diet soda serves that purpose I won't order a glass of wine (I still do, but less frequently). And it saves money. Diet soda is significantly less expensive than wine and usually comes with free refills (though I never need a refill).
  • Aviva92
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    I don't buy diet soda for my home. I instead reserve it as being something I can drink with my meal when out for dinner. I just like having something different to drink with a restaurant meal. And if diet soda serves that purpose I won't order a glass of wine (I still do, but less frequently). And it saves money. Diet soda is significantly less expensive than wine and usually comes with free refills (though I never need a refill).

    but diet soda won't make me drunk.
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
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    Aviva92 wrote: »
    I don't buy diet soda for my home. I instead reserve it as being something I can drink with my meal when out for dinner. I just like having something different to drink with a restaurant meal. And if diet soda serves that purpose I won't order a glass of wine (I still do, but less frequently). And it saves money. Diet soda is significantly less expensive than wine and usually comes with free refills (though I never need a refill).

    but diet soda won't make me drunk.

    :-) I just don't really like to drink frequently. My husband is a non drinker and doesn't like if I drink frequently (conversation becomes less interesting), and when I am out with my kids soda is often a better choice for me. And the cost.

  • SLLRunner
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    realharlot wrote: »
    While I can't be bothered to find it right now there are studies that show drinking diet soda can and will make you consume more calories. You're telling your brain that you are consuming very sugary things and then letting it know you lied to it.

    In addition to that, when you drink sugary things all the time your tolerance for sweets goes way up. Soda suddenly doesn't taste as sweet as it used to because your taste buds have adjusted. If you spend a few months traveling India you probably wouldn't find Americanized Indian food very spicy anymore either. It's the same thing for sweet, salty, sour, and umami.

    Think about the effect water is supposed to have in your body. It's supposed to replace the water that has been excreted (through crying, breathing, sweating, urinating, defecating, and menstruating). When you eat dry things it helps you push it along. Soda is basically sugary high ph acid for your body or low calorie chemical high ph acid for your body. When soda is your primary choice for liquid intake it's sure to take its toll on your organs.

    It's all a matter of framing and finding a healthy substitute.
    You don't have time to post links to studies? Right. Maybe there are none.

    That said, maybe soda does make some people hungrier but not everyone.

    Eating sweets might cause some people to want more but, again, not everyone.

    Your assertions are very general.

    Links to peer reviewed studies, please. ;)
  • musicandarts
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    Why give up diet soda?? It is a great substitute for a snack. Yes, it has chemicals. But so does iced tea, coffee, health foods etc. You will be fine if you do everything in moderation.
  • MindySaysWhaaat
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    Mamapeach, why the interest in getting people to drink diet soda? I would have thought someone with your medical history would be more interested in nutrition.

    I have no interest in getting people to drink diet soda. Read my first post in this thread. I believe it's on the first page. I even gave the OP some suggestions on helping her quit her habit.

    I do have a great interest in people making unsubstantiated nonsense claims with no factual basis arguing an all or nothing approach. You know why? I've worked my way through 20 years of falling for that nonsense and coming out the other side.

    If the OP wants to give up soda, that's great. She shouldn't be giving it because of trumped up nonsense, though. Everyone deserves the chance to make their choices based on knowing facts.

    It's not nonesense that giving up diet soda helped me to lose weight. I also didn't say she needs to go for an all or nothing approach. Why does it matter so much to you why she gives it up?

    Sorry, I haven't been overweight for 20 years in order to fall for as much nonesense as you apparently have.

    Didn't you say you don't understand why your posts are getting flagged and that they don't break the terms of use? This (above) IS against the terms of use.

    I paraphrased what she said. I see nothing wrong with my post.

    And anyway, even if that's against the terms of use, that is NOT what the flags are for. The abuse flag is for things like porn. The spam flag is for spam bots. My post falls into neither of those categories.

    My perfect post is now hidden :(

    Violating the terms of use IS categorized under the "abuse" blanket.

    no it isn't. re-read the rules and see the suggestions/feedback section where the mods clarified. it's not.

    abuse is meant for either porn or things you would not want your kid to see if they are looking over your shoulder. that does not qualify.

    Either way, taking a personal shot at someone's weight (like you did) is not only unethical but also still against the terms of use. That's true, regardless of if it falls under the "abuse" cloud or not.

    wasnt a shot against her. she said she fell for weight loss gimmics for 20 years. i paraphrased.

    unethical? not according to my ethics.

    Unethical may have been a poor choice of words. Whether you were paraphrasing or not, the way you worded your comment came off like you were taking a personal shot at her. Like you were trying to be insultingly sarcastic.

    Yup. Wasn't the first time she did it either. Posting the dictionary definition of "joke" earlier in the thread was another example, but hey, I figure I'm probably old enough to be her mother and it's really not a big deal what someone on the internet thinks of me.

    you're not old enough to be my mother

    You don't even know how old I am!

    yes i do. that portion of your profile is public.

    I'm going to go on a limb here and say that because your screenname has 92 in it, you were born in 1992. That means you're 22 and she's 52. She's old enough to be your mother because when I was 22, my mom was 52. But this really isn't a math post, and I don't really care one way or another what people think about diet soda so...

    WHAT???????? OMG, YOU'RE A FREAKING GENIUS. I had no idea how to subtract 22 from 52 and even FURTHER, no IDEA, NO IDEA that a 30 year old could be a mother. WOW, you have totally enlightened me on maths and stuff and have totally blown my mind.

    FYI, I wasn't born in 1992. *rollseyes*

    Sheesh, sorry for trying to lighten the mood a bit. Some people just can't take a joke. *shrugs.* And from your sarcasm, I'm going to suggest that maybe you were born later than 92 since you sure are reacting like a child.

  • realharlot
    realharlot Posts: 21
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    MrM27 wrote: »
    realharlot wrote: »
    While I can't be bothered to find it right now there are studies that show drinking diet soda can and will make you consume more calories. You're telling your brain that you are consuming very sugary things and then letting it know you lied to it.

    In addition to that, when you drink sugary things all the time your tolerance for sweets goes way up. Soda suddenly doesn't taste as sweet as it used to because your taste buds have adjusted. If you spend a few months traveling India you probably wouldn't find Americanized Indian food very spicy anymore either. It's the same thing for sweet, salty, sour, and umami.

    Think about the effect water is supposed to have in your body. It's supposed to replace the water that has been excreted (through crying, breathing, sweating, urinating, defecating, and menstruating). When you eat dry things it helps you push it along. Soda is basically sugary high ph acid for your body or low calorie chemical high ph acid for your body. When soda is your primary choice for liquid intake it's sure to take its toll on your organs.

    It's all a matter of framing and finding a healthy substitute.

    You couldn't be bothered to find the studies but you took the time to type out that long post. Makes sense.

    Oh how I love the way people treat each other when they're not face to face.

    Linky-link! I even made it user friendly for you, friend. :wink:

  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,943 Member
    edited January 2015
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    Aviva92 wrote: »
    I don't buy diet soda for my home. I instead reserve it as being something I can drink with my meal when out for dinner. I just like having something different to drink with a restaurant meal. And if diet soda serves that purpose I won't order a glass of wine (I still do, but less frequently). And it saves money. Diet soda is significantly less expensive than wine and usually comes with free refills (though I never need a refill).

    but diet soda won't make me drunk.

    Neither will wine if you drink it in moderation. ;)
  • Aviva92
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    LeenaGee wrote: »
    Mamapeach, why the interest in getting people to drink diet soda? I would have thought someone with your medical history would be more interested in nutrition.

    I have no interest in getting people to drink diet soda. Read my first post in this thread. I believe it's on the first page. I even gave the OP some suggestions on helping her quit her habit.

    I do have a great interest in people making unsubstantiated nonsense claims with no factual basis arguing an all or nothing approach. You know why? I've worked my way through 20 years of falling for that nonsense and coming out the other side.

    If the OP wants to give up soda, that's great. She shouldn't be giving it because of trumped up nonsense, though. Everyone deserves the chance to make their choices based on knowing facts.

    It's not nonesense that giving up diet soda helped me to lose weight. I also didn't say she needs to go for an all or nothing approach. Why does it matter so much to you why she gives it up?

    Sorry, I haven't been overweight for 20 years in order to fall for as much nonesense as you apparently have.

    Didn't you say you don't understand why your posts are getting flagged and that they don't break the terms of use? This (above) IS against the terms of use.

    I paraphrased what she said. I see nothing wrong with my post.

    And anyway, even if that's against the terms of use, that is NOT what the flags are for. The abuse flag is for things like porn. The spam flag is for spam bots. My post falls into neither of those categories.

    My perfect post is now hidden :(

    Violating the terms of use IS categorized under the "abuse" blanket.

    no it isn't. re-read the rules and see the suggestions/feedback section where the mods clarified. it's not.

    abuse is meant for either porn or things you would not want your kid to see if they are looking over your shoulder. that does not qualify.

    Either way, taking a personal shot at someone's weight (like you did) is not only unethical but also still against the terms of use. That's true, regardless of if it falls under the "abuse" cloud or not.

    wasnt a shot against her. she said she fell for weight loss gimmics for 20 years. i paraphrased.

    unethical? not according to my ethics.

    Unethical may have been a poor choice of words. Whether you were paraphrasing or not, the way you worded your comment came off like you were taking a personal shot at her. Like you were trying to be insultingly sarcastic.

    Yup. Wasn't the first time she did it either. Posting the dictionary definition of "joke" earlier in the thread was another example, but hey, I figure I'm probably old enough to be her mother and it's really not a big deal what someone on the internet thinks of me.

    you're not old enough to be my mother

    You don't even know how old I am!

    yes i do. that portion of your profile is public.

    I'm going to go on a limb here and say that because your screenname has 92 in it, you were born in 1992. That means you're 22 and she's 52. She's old enough to be your mother because when I was 22, my mom was 52. But this really isn't a math post, and I don't really care one way or another what people think about diet soda so...

    WHAT???????? OMG, YOU'RE A FREAKING GENIUS. I had no idea how to subtract 22 from 52 and even FURTHER, no IDEA, NO IDEA that a 30 year old could be a mother. WOW, you have totally enlightened me on maths and stuff and have totally blown my mind.

    FYI, I wasn't born in 1992. *rollseyes*

    Sheesh, sorry for trying to lighten the mood a bit. Some people just can't take a joke. *shrugs.* And from your sarcasm, I'm going to suggest that maybe you were born later than 92 since you sure are reacting like a child.

    what about that was a joke? i already said i was born prior to 1992, so now you're just insulting me.
  • MindySaysWhaaat
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    LeenaGee wrote: »
    Mamapeach, why the interest in getting people to drink diet soda? I would have thought someone with your medical history would be more interested in nutrition.

    I have no interest in getting people to drink diet soda. Read my first post in this thread. I believe it's on the first page. I even gave the OP some suggestions on helping her quit her habit.

    I do have a great interest in people making unsubstantiated nonsense claims with no factual basis arguing an all or nothing approach. You know why? I've worked my way through 20 years of falling for that nonsense and coming out the other side.

    If the OP wants to give up soda, that's great. She shouldn't be giving it because of trumped up nonsense, though. Everyone deserves the chance to make their choices based on knowing facts.

    It's not nonesense that giving up diet soda helped me to lose weight. I also didn't say she needs to go for an all or nothing approach. Why does it matter so much to you why she gives it up?

    Sorry, I haven't been overweight for 20 years in order to fall for as much nonesense as you apparently have.

    Didn't you say you don't understand why your posts are getting flagged and that they don't break the terms of use? This (above) IS against the terms of use.

    I paraphrased what she said. I see nothing wrong with my post.

    And anyway, even if that's against the terms of use, that is NOT what the flags are for. The abuse flag is for things like porn. The spam flag is for spam bots. My post falls into neither of those categories.

    My perfect post is now hidden :(

    Violating the terms of use IS categorized under the "abuse" blanket.

    no it isn't. re-read the rules and see the suggestions/feedback section where the mods clarified. it's not.

    abuse is meant for either porn or things you would not want your kid to see if they are looking over your shoulder. that does not qualify.

    Either way, taking a personal shot at someone's weight (like you did) is not only unethical but also still against the terms of use. That's true, regardless of if it falls under the "abuse" cloud or not.

    wasnt a shot against her. she said she fell for weight loss gimmics for 20 years. i paraphrased.

    unethical? not according to my ethics.

    Unethical may have been a poor choice of words. Whether you were paraphrasing or not, the way you worded your comment came off like you were taking a personal shot at her. Like you were trying to be insultingly sarcastic.

    Yup. Wasn't the first time she did it either. Posting the dictionary definition of "joke" earlier in the thread was another example, but hey, I figure I'm probably old enough to be her mother and it's really not a big deal what someone on the internet thinks of me.

    you're not old enough to be my mother

    You don't even know how old I am!

    yes i do. that portion of your profile is public.

    I'm going to go on a limb here and say that because your screenname has 92 in it, you were born in 1992. That means you're 22 and she's 52. She's old enough to be your mother because when I was 22, my mom was 52. But this really isn't a math post, and I don't really care one way or another what people think about diet soda so...

    WHAT???????? OMG, YOU'RE A FREAKING GENIUS. I had no idea how to subtract 22 from 52 and even FURTHER, no IDEA, NO IDEA that a 30 year old could be a mother. WOW, you have totally enlightened me on maths and stuff and have totally blown my mind.

    FYI, I wasn't born in 1992. *rollseyes*

    Sheesh, sorry for trying to lighten the mood a bit. Some people just can't take a joke. *shrugs.* And from your sarcasm, I'm going to suggest that maybe you were born later than 92 since you sure are reacting like a child.

    what about that was a joke? i already said i was born prior to 1992, so now you're just insulting me.

    I don't really care how old you are. I pointed out an assumption, which was obviously wrong as to how old you are. I was mostly joking, and not really intending to be rude. Your response on the other hand, was sarcastic and rude. So I responded with a little rudeness of my own. So go ahead and be insulted. No skin off my nose :)
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,943 Member
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    realharlot wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    realharlot wrote: »
    While I can't be bothered to find it right now there are studies that show drinking diet soda can and will make you consume more calories. You're telling your brain that you are consuming very sugary things and then letting it know you lied to it.

    In addition to that, when you drink sugary things all the time your tolerance for sweets goes way up. Soda suddenly doesn't taste as sweet as it used to because your taste buds have adjusted. If you spend a few months traveling India you probably wouldn't find Americanized Indian food very spicy anymore either. It's the same thing for sweet, salty, sour, and umami.

    Think about the effect water is supposed to have in your body. It's supposed to replace the water that has been excreted (through crying, breathing, sweating, urinating, defecating, and menstruating). When you eat dry things it helps you push it along. Soda is basically sugary high ph acid for your body or low calorie chemical high ph acid for your body. When soda is your primary choice for liquid intake it's sure to take its toll on your organs.

    It's all a matter of framing and finding a healthy substitute.

    You couldn't be bothered to find the studies but you took the time to type out that long post. Makes sense.

    Oh how I love the way people treat each other when they're not face to face.

    Linky-link! I even made it user friendly for you, friend. :wink:

    Peer reviewed study. That's a website by one doctor with no links to peer reviewed studies that I can see. That makes his information opinion not facts.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 9,931 Member
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    realharlot wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    realharlot wrote: »
    While I can't be bothered to find it right now there are studies that show drinking diet soda can and will make you consume more calories. You're telling your brain that you are consuming very sugary things and then letting it know you lied to it.

    In addition to that, when you drink sugary things all the time your tolerance for sweets goes way up. Soda suddenly doesn't taste as sweet as it used to because your taste buds have adjusted. If you spend a few months traveling India you probably wouldn't find Americanized Indian food very spicy anymore either. It's the same thing for sweet, salty, sour, and umami.

    Think about the effect water is supposed to have in your body. It's supposed to replace the water that has been excreted (through crying, breathing, sweating, urinating, defecating, and menstruating). When you eat dry things it helps you push it along. Soda is basically sugary high ph acid for your body or low calorie chemical high ph acid for your body. When soda is your primary choice for liquid intake it's sure to take its toll on your organs.

    It's all a matter of framing and finding a healthy substitute.

    You couldn't be bothered to find the studies but you took the time to type out that long post. Makes sense.

    Oh how I love the way people treat each other when they're not face to face.

    Linky-link! I even made it user friendly for you, friend. :wink:

    "People consuming low calorie sweeteners may overcompensate by eating more than they otherwise would."

    Except of course the people that are losing weight and drinking diet pop and lets not forget the people that drink diet pop and are not overweight. I love correlations, they could mean anything anyone could dream up and all you have to do is add the word "may" and your off the hook, love it.

  • Aviva92
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    memelendy wrote: »
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    Aviva92 wrote: »
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    Aviva92 wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    jasonmh630 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    LeenaGee wrote: »
    Mamapeach, why the interest in getting people to drink diet soda? I would have thought someone with your medical history would be more interested in nutrition.

    I have no interest in getting people to drink diet soda. Read my first post in this thread. I believe it's on the first page. I even gave the OP some suggestions on helping her quit her habit.

    I do have a great interest in people making unsubstantiated nonsense claims with no factual basis arguing an all or nothing approach. You know why? I've worked my way through 20 years of falling for that nonsense and coming out the other side.

    If the OP wants to give up soda, that's great. She shouldn't be giving it because of trumped up nonsense, though. Everyone deserves the chance to make their choices based on knowing facts.

    It's not nonesense that giving up diet soda helped me to lose weight. I also didn't say she needs to go for an all or nothing approach. Why does it matter so much to you why she gives it up?

    Sorry, I haven't been overweight for 20 years in order to fall for as much nonesense as you apparently have.

    Didn't you say you don't understand why your posts are getting flagged and that they don't break the terms of use? This (above) IS against the terms of use.

    I paraphrased what she said. I see nothing wrong with my post.

    And anyway, even if that's against the terms of use, that is NOT what the flags are for. The abuse flag is for things like porn. The spam flag is for spam bots. My post falls into neither of those categories.

    My perfect post is now hidden :(

    Violating the terms of use IS categorized under the "abuse" blanket.

    no it isn't. re-read the rules and see the suggestions/feedback section where the mods clarified. it's not.

    abuse is meant for either porn or things you would not want your kid to see if they are looking over your shoulder. that does not qualify.

    Either way, taking a personal shot at someone's weight (like you did) is not only unethical but also still against the terms of use. That's true, regardless of if it falls under the "abuse" cloud or not.

    wasnt a shot against her. she said she fell for weight loss gimmics for 20 years. i paraphrased.

    unethical? not according to my ethics.

    Unethical may have been a poor choice of words. Whether you were paraphrasing or not, the way you worded your comment came off like you were taking a personal shot at her. Like you were trying to be insultingly sarcastic.

    Yup. Wasn't the first time she did it either. Posting the dictionary definition of "joke" earlier in the thread was another example, but hey, I figure I'm probably old enough to be her mother and it's really not a big deal what someone on the internet thinks of me.

    you're not old enough to be my mother

    You don't even know how old I am!

    yes i do. that portion of your profile is public.

    I'm going to go on a limb here and say that because your screenname has 92 in it, you were born in 1992. That means you're 22 and she's 52. She's old enough to be your mother because when I was 22, my mom was 52. But this really isn't a math post, and I don't really care one way or another what people think about diet soda so...

    WHAT???????? OMG, YOU'RE A FREAKING GENIUS. I had no idea how to subtract 22 from 52 and even FURTHER, no IDEA, NO IDEA that a 30 year old could be a mother. WOW, you have totally enlightened me on maths and stuff and have totally blown my mind.

    FYI, I wasn't born in 1992. *rollseyes*

    Sheesh, sorry for trying to lighten the mood a bit. Some people just can't take a joke. *shrugs.* And from your sarcasm, I'm going to suggest that maybe you were born later than 92 since you sure are reacting like a child.

    what about that was a joke? i already said i was born prior to 1992, so now you're just insulting me.

    I don't really care how old you are. I pointed out an assumption, which was obviously wrong as to how old you are. I was mostly joking, and not really intending to be rude. Your response on the other hand, was sarcastic and rude. So I responded with a little rudeness of my own. So go ahead and be insulted. No skin off my nose :)

    the assumption was rude. not really sure how it was funny.
  • realharlot
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    SLLRunner wrote: »
    realharlot wrote: »
    While I can't be bothered to find it right now there are studies that show drinking diet soda can and will make you consume more calories. You're telling your brain that you are consuming very sugary things and then letting it know you lied to it.

    In addition to that, when you drink sugary things all the time your tolerance for sweets goes way up. Soda suddenly doesn't taste as sweet as it used to because your taste buds have adjusted. If you spend a few months traveling India you probably wouldn't find Americanized Indian food very spicy anymore either. It's the same thing for sweet, salty, sour, and umami.

    Think about the effect water is supposed to have in your body. It's supposed to replace the water that has been excreted (through crying, breathing, sweating, urinating, defecating, and menstruating). When you eat dry things it helps you push it along. Soda is basically sugary high ph acid for your body or low calorie chemical high ph acid for your body. When soda is your primary choice for liquid intake it's sure to take its toll on your organs.

    It's all a matter of framing and finding a healthy substitute.
    You don't have time to post links to studies? Right. Maybe there are none.

    That said, maybe soda does make some people hungrier but not everyone.

    Eating sweets might cause some people to want more but, again, not everyone.

    Your assertions are very general.

    Links to peer reviewed studies, please. ;)

    For you too, buddy! Clicky clicky!

  • MindySaysWhaaat
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    Mamapeach, why the interest in getting people to drink diet soda? I would have thought someone with your medical history would be more interested in nutrition.

    I have no interest in getting people to drink diet soda. Read my first post in this thread. I believe it's on the first page. I even gave the OP some suggestions on helping her quit her habit.

    I do have a great interest in people making unsubstantiated nonsense claims with no factual basis arguing an all or nothing approach. You know why? I've worked my way through 20 years of falling for that nonsense and coming out the other side.

    If the OP wants to give up soda, that's great. She shouldn't be giving it because of trumped up nonsense, though. Everyone deserves the chance to make their choices based on knowing facts.

    It's not nonesense that giving up diet soda helped me to lose weight. I also didn't say she needs to go for an all or nothing approach. Why does it matter so much to you why she gives it up?

    Sorry, I haven't been overweight for 20 years in order to fall for as much nonesense as you apparently have.

    Didn't you say you don't understand why your posts are getting flagged and that they don't break the terms of use? This (above) IS against the terms of use.

    I paraphrased what she said. I see nothing wrong with my post.

    And anyway, even if that's against the terms of use, that is NOT what the flags are for. The abuse flag is for things like porn. The spam flag is for spam bots. My post falls into neither of those categories.

    My perfect post is now hidden :(

    Violating the terms of use IS categorized under the "abuse" blanket.

    no it isn't. re-read the rules and see the suggestions/feedback section where the mods clarified. it's not.

    abuse is meant for either porn or things you would not want your kid to see if they are looking over your shoulder. that does not qualify.

    Either way, taking a personal shot at someone's weight (like you did) is not only unethical but also still against the terms of use. That's true, regardless of if it falls under the "abuse" cloud or not.

    wasnt a shot against her. she said she fell for weight loss gimmics for 20 years. i paraphrased.

    unethical? not according to my ethics.

    Unethical may have been a poor choice of words. Whether you were paraphrasing or not, the way you worded your comment came off like you were taking a personal shot at her. Like you were trying to be insultingly sarcastic.

    Yup. Wasn't the first time she did it either. Posting the dictionary definition of "joke" earlier in the thread was another example, but hey, I figure I'm probably old enough to be her mother and it's really not a big deal what someone on the internet thinks of me.

    you're not old enough to be my mother

    You don't even know how old I am!

    yes i do. that portion of your profile is public.

    I'm going to go on a limb here and say that because your screenname has 92 in it, you were born in 1992. That means you're 22 and she's 52. She's old enough to be your mother because when I was 22, my mom was 52. But this really isn't a math post, and I don't really care one way or another what people think about diet soda so...

    WHAT???????? OMG, YOU'RE A FREAKING GENIUS. I had no idea how to subtract 22 from 52 and even FURTHER, no IDEA, NO IDEA that a 30 year old could be a mother. WOW, you have totally enlightened me on maths and stuff and have totally blown my mind.

    FYI, I wasn't born in 1992. *rollseyes*

    Sheesh, sorry for trying to lighten the mood a bit. Some people just can't take a joke. *shrugs.* And from your sarcasm, I'm going to suggest that maybe you were born later than 92 since you sure are reacting like a child.

    what about that was a joke? i already said i was born prior to 1992, so now you're just insulting me.

    I don't really care how old you are. I pointed out an assumption, which was obviously wrong as to how old you are. I was mostly joking, and not really intending to be rude. Your response on the other hand, was sarcastic and rude. So I responded with a little rudeness of my own. So go ahead and be insulted. No skin off my nose :)

    the assumption was rude. not really sure how it was funny.

    I don't think it's rude to assume someone's age based off of their screenname. For years my screennames had 88 in them because *shocker here* I was born in 88. I've got tons of friends who put their birth year in their screennames. It's not really a rude assumption. I never saw where you put that you were born prior to 92. All you said was that you weren't born in 92. I thought it was an interesting way to lighten the mood. This further proves that you can't take a little light hearted bantering. Now I don't even care what you say after this because I'm not going to respond anymore. Have a great life, and good luck with your fitness journey. :)
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    While I can't be bothered to find it right now there are studies that show drinking diet soda can and will make you consume more calories. You're telling your brain that you are consuming very sugary things and then letting it know you lied to it.

    In addition to that, when you drink sugary things all the time your tolerance for sweets goes way up. Soda suddenly doesn't taste as sweet as it used to because your taste buds have adjusted. If you spend a few months traveling India you probably wouldn't find Americanized Indian food very spicy anymore either. It's the same thing for sweet, salty, sour, and umami.

    Think about the effect water is supposed to have in your body. It's supposed to replace the water that has been excreted (through crying, breathing, sweating, urinating, defecating, and menstruating). When you eat dry things it helps you push it along. Soda is basically sugary high ph acid for your body or low calorie chemical high ph acid for your body. When soda is your primary choice for liquid intake it's sure to take its toll on your organs.

    It's all a matter of framing and finding a healthy substitute.
    You don't have time to post links to studies? Right. Maybe there are none.

    That said, maybe soda does make some people hungrier but not everyone.

    Eating sweets might cause some people to want more but, again, not everyone.

    Your assertions are very general.

    Links to peer reviewed studies, please. ;)

    For you too, buddy! Clicky clicky!
    That's a blog, not a peered review study.....lol

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    "People consuming low calorie sweeteners may overcompensate by eating more than they otherwise would."

    Except of course the people that are losing weight and drinking diet pop and lets not forget the people that drink diet pop and are not overweight. I love correlations, they could mean anything anyone could dream up and all you have to do is add the word "may" and your off the hook, love it.

    It was a double-blind clinical nutrition study with a large sample size.

    You know what I love? How people can justify pretty much anything they want to believe on internet forums. ;)

    Excuse me. *exits*


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