Giving up diet soda. So hard!

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  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
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    Artificial sweeteners don't cause cravings for sugar. I wish that bunkum would stop. It sounds good when you're in the mindset to latch onto the sugar boogeyman, but when you step back and rationally look at the statement, it honestly makes no sense at all.

  • angiemann2007
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    I noticed when I drink diet soda, I gain weight. I think I have a sensitivity to the artificial sweetners or something...I lost 10 lbs in 15 days when I cut it out and switched to waters flavored with natural sweeteners....Not sure about the stevia but thats whats in sobe water and it doesnt cause the same issue...probably no correlation, but it has started trimming weight off again since cutting out the diet soda again....pitchers of water with fruit pieces (oranges/lemons/berries) in it...flavors the water and doesnt have all the crap in it.
  • Azexas
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    If the soda works within your calories and macros for the day, you don't necessarily have to give it up. BUT if you absolutely are dead set on giving it up- seltzer water will still give you the bubbly of soda. Just throw some Dasani or Mio water enhancer in it.
  • ketorach
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    I drink diet Coke every day. I enjoy it and it's free at my office. :wink:

    That said, I drink only two a day and drink filtered water or seltzer water for the rest of the day. I cut back from about 5 a day down to 2. Sometimes one. I would try to wean yourself off rather than go cold turkey.

    Anyway, I have zero adverse effects from diet soda. I am not dehydrated. I don't crave more sweets. And the aspartame does not make me feel unwell. There are plenty of people who believe aspartame will kill you but the FDA does not agree.

    However, I do not tolerate all artificial sweeteners as well as aspartame. In particular, malitol gives me headaches and causes serious gastrointestinal distress. So, no malitol for me! Everyone needs to find what works for them.


  • MoiAussi93
    MoiAussi93 Posts: 1,948 Member
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    Artificial sweeteners don't cause cravings for sugar. I wish that bunkum would stop. It sounds good when you're in the mindset to latch onto the sugar boogeyman, but when you step back and rationally look at the statement, it honestly makes no sense at all.
    Yes, they do. http://nydailynews.com/life-style/health/artificial-sweeteners-sabotage-weight-loss-article-1.1467084

  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
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    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    Artificial sweeteners don't cause cravings for sugar. I wish that bunkum would stop. It sounds good when you're in the mindset to latch onto the sugar boogeyman, but when you step back and rationally look at the statement, it honestly makes no sense at all.
    Yes, they do. http://nydailynews.com/life-style/health/artificial-sweeteners-sabotage-weight-loss-article-1.1467084

    I'm not saying the article is correct or incorrect- but they subtitle says "new evidence suggests" and then doesn't give said evidence or list references of studies done... seems a bit off.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
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    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    Artificial sweeteners don't cause cravings for sugar. I wish that bunkum would stop. It sounds good when you're in the mindset to latch onto the sugar boogeyman, but when you step back and rationally look at the statement, it honestly makes no sense at all.
    Yes, they do. http://nydailynews.com/life-style/health/artificial-sweeteners-sabotage-weight-loss-article-1.1467084
    I've read the paper the article was based off. The sweeteners were dosed in isolation, not with foods and it's just a hypothesis. Even the study says it's just a hypothesis. Notice the use of the word may in the headline?

    I'll hypothesize that people who consume large quantities of diet soda have overall poor diets and just eat too much.

    I'll also hypothesize that rat studies are poor analogs for human dietary findings.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
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    Troutsy wrote: »
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    Artificial sweeteners don't cause cravings for sugar. I wish that bunkum would stop. It sounds good when you're in the mindset to latch onto the sugar boogeyman, but when you step back and rationally look at the statement, it honestly makes no sense at all.
    Yes, they do. http://nydailynews.com/life-style/health/artificial-sweeteners-sabotage-weight-loss-article-1.1467084

    I'm not saying the article is correct or incorrect- but they subtitle says "new evidence suggests" and then fails to reference one study or list references... seems a bit off.

    The study's not in the article, but here it is.

    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/

  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
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    Troutsy wrote: »
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    Artificial sweeteners don't cause cravings for sugar. I wish that bunkum would stop. It sounds good when you're in the mindset to latch onto the sugar boogeyman, but when you step back and rationally look at the statement, it honestly makes no sense at all.
    Yes, they do. http://nydailynews.com/life-style/health/artificial-sweeteners-sabotage-weight-loss-article-1.1467084

    I'm not saying the article is correct or incorrect- but they subtitle says "new evidence suggests" and then fails to reference one study or list references... seems a bit off.

    The study's not in the article, but here it is.

    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/

    Thanks- I'll have to read it on my lunch.
  • Lynette4321
    Lynette4321 Posts: 37 Member
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    BFDeal wrote: »
    People love saying they're addicted to things. That removes any sense or personal responsibility for their actions. Give up sodas or don't for whatever reasons you want but get rid of the idea you're addicted to them. At worst you have a habit that's easily broken.

    Really. If you can't be helpful, just leave it alone. I had no idea a post about diet soda would cause such controversy.
  • LeanButNotMean44
    LeanButNotMean44 Posts: 852 Member
    edited January 2015
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    OP, you obviously didn't read or post in yesterday's soda thread!

    Be aware that there are certain topics on these forums that elicit strong opinions - many of which have been discussed to death. The majority of people will be totally up front (and respectful) with their comments but at times tend to rub new-ish posters the wrong way.
  • BeezleBby
    BeezleBby Posts: 1 Member
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    i gave up sweets and diet soda and it's the diet soda that I miss so badly! I was drinking soda that didn't even have caffeine, but I apparently have quite an addiction.

    I don't like spring water and I'm sick of water. What am I going to drink with pizza? Any ideas?

  • JPW1990
    JPW1990 Posts: 2,424 Member
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    BFDeal wrote: »
    People love saying they're addicted to things. That removes any sense or personal responsibility for their actions. Give up sodas or don't for whatever reasons you want but get rid of the idea you're addicted to them. At worst you have a habit that's easily broken.

    Really. If you can't be helpful, just leave it alone. I had no idea a post about diet soda would cause such controversy.

    People on these boards generally prioritize being right above being helpful or supportive. I regret any time I come in here to look up something specific, because inevitably, it's buried in pages of whining and accusations. Next time someone asks why you're giving it up, tell them you prefer your tooth enamel stay on your teeth where it belongs. Diffuses the whole "I'll pretend I believe you should do what you want, but btw, my plan is better than yours" problem that pops up in every thread around here.
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
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    Aviva92 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    why do people need to defend diet soda as though it's a huge travesty to give it up? if she wants to give it up, it's her life.

    I think if she wants to give it up she should. Some people probably feel better not drinking it, especially if they seem to drink it to the exclusion of everything else. I give up coffee from time to time since I can get into a pattern of going overboard with it (right now I'm trying not to drink coffee or caffeinated tea after noon and it's driving me a bit crazy, since I was overdoing it).

    However, sometimes people think they ought to give up something instead of really wanting to, and diet soda is one of those things where you hear that it's poison or making you fat or silly things that are not true. If people are giving it up for those reasons, and not more factual ones, they might want to know that it's not necessary--for example, that lots of people are able to drink it and lose or even find it helpful.

    I don't agree with the frequent advice that you should change your diet as little as possible when starting a weight loss plan, since for me it's motivating to see myself doing something positive, and some of the bigger changes go along with that, so I can see that side.

    But, on the other hand, if I had added on to my dietary changes when I started a requirement that I also drop coffee--which happens to be something I can use in place of how I used to use food, as a break, a relaxing taste treat, whatever--I would have made this harder for myself and deprived myself of something I enjoy, for no reason. I actually made the call when I started that I wasn't going to worry about coffee until I was really comfortable with my eating. (And now that I'm close to goal I'm messing with it and might drop it for a while.)

    Similarly, I like to give up foods as part of my Lent practices, usually meat plus sweets. This time I did not (I started losing weight last January, so was still somewhat in the early stages), in part because I don't want my practices to relate to weight loss efforts, but more because I thought adding things would make it more difficult than it needed to be when I mostly wanted my diet to feel natural and enjoyable. This year I might well go back to my usual.

    So I do think that sometimes newbies to MFP seem to be doing too much at once and adding difficulties that are not necessary (if you really miss diet coke and end up having more trouble not overeating cookies, that's not helpful). However, that's going to depend on the person, so I think it's both useful to present the "you don't have to" ideas to OP and challenge things like "aspartame will KILL you TOMORROW and make you FAT" (not said by OP, of course) and also to respect her decision and answer her question.

    When I gave up diet soda I lost a lot of weight, whereas I couldn't before. It did not lead to me eating more cookies. It might have actually lead to me craving less cookies. I don't know. I was also counting calories, so that was probably what did it, but I had a hard time losing prior to this and this time the pounds just flew off and i was able to keep it off for almost 2 years now. I don't know that the giving up soda had anything to do with it, but it might have. Also, if you're drinking soda, it's pretty much guaranteed that you will be drinking less water. Isn't water good for you? myfitnesspal recommends 8 glasses a day. I know that's an unnecessarily high amount, but if I'm drinking soda instead, it's likely that amount will be reduced to zero.

    I suppose it hasn't been proven definitively that the chemicals in soda are bad, but that doesn't mean they aren't.

    Water in soda somehow doesn't count for ... water. Check.
    You started counting calories and lost weight but it was maybe because you stopped drinking soda at the same time. Check.
    Chemicals aren't shown to be bad. But maybe they are. Check.

    Logic, this post has it.

    I'll buy that being used to the taste of sweetness might influence your palate and make you crave other sweet, calorie rich things and thus increase the tendency to go over on your calories. That seems to be a personal taste thing.

    well, water is in foods too, but pure water sounds better. pretty sure when they have the 8 cups of water recommendation, they mean actual water, not water in foods.

    doesn't matter if my post is right or wrong. giving up diet soda will not kill you.

    man, i think some of the people here have diet soda as their personal god.

    oh and i stopped counting calories regularly almost 2 years ago and still kept the weight off and it was extremely easy. any other time i tried to diet, i put it right back on. diet soda is possibly the reason.

    No actually, the recommendation on water comes from an old paper and is "equivalent of" not actual distilled water (which is gross) you can have it in tea or tomatoes or what not.

    Giving up anything won't kill you - you can give up apples, pork or caramelized puppies and it doesn't matter. The point is, for the majority of people that focusing on the majors is more important than random abnegation - that is what we try to get across.

    That the OP decided that she wanted to stop drinking diet soda is fine - I don't care. Is it the best strategy for weight loss when some struggles with willpower? Heck, NO. Study after study shows that you only have so much ability to modify behavior by strength of will - one might want to focus that on the major factors that influence weight loss and quality of health.

    It might very well be that going cold turkey is the best thing in terms of soda and palate choices for some people. I make no comment on that and if you read my posts I'm not challenging the OPs decision to do that - however the logic that it doesn't count as water, etc. well that's just off.

    BTW, in the last two years you never drank a single soda? Did you suddenly gain weight?
    Personally, soda isn't a god. Rarely drink the stuff - but at 60 cals a bottle for the stuff I do drink, it hardly influences my weight at all.



    well, i believe it helped stop my cravings for other things. also do buy into the fact that it's chemicals and therefore not all that great. you don't have to if you don't want to.

    no, i didn't give it up entirely. i still drink it as a mixer with alcohol sometimes when i go out drinking. gotta mix alcohol with something. i gave up diet soda as an every day thing to drink with meals.

    distilled water is not gross.

    So you drink soda with moderation. Got it. Hope it isn't making you fat. You actually do what everyone is recommending.

    BTW - distilled water is not a good idea. And taste being a personal thing and everything, you might like it but it is generally accepted as poor in taste. It is also possibly unhealthy to drink it as it might leads to mineral leaching. Don't take my word for it.

    WHO: http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/nutrientschap12.pdf


    I cut down on diet soda drastically. I am not doing what everyone is recommending. They are saying there is nothing wrong with drinking it all the time. Nope, not making me fat. Already said that I have kept my weight off for almost 2 years and haven't even had to log to do that. I think that lowering my diet soda intake by like 95% has helped with this. Apparently you disagree, but you're wrong. You're also not me.

    meh, I mostly drink tap water or water through my works filter on the tap. If by distilled, you mean bottled water, I rarely drink that. Didn't read your link. Don't care.
  • butterfli7o
    butterfli7o Posts: 1,319 Member
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    I have no plan to give up Cherry Coke Zero. But for you, try out no-cal sparkling flavored water. Tons of flavors and tastes great.
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
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    I don't feel good about all the chemicals. Also, it keeps the sweet tooth going and makes it hard to stay away from sweets.

    What about all of the chemicals in water? Lead, chlorine, etc. OTOH, if you don't want to drink soda, then don't drink it. I have one diet Coke per day (more on the weekends when I "cut" it with Captain Morgan) but I also drink 64ozs of water. AS long as soda isn't totally substituted for water then I don't see it as being an issue (for me).

    oh yes, lets stop drinking water because of the "chemicals" *rollseyes*
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
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    Aviva92 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    why do people need to defend diet soda as though it's a huge travesty to give it up? if she wants to give it up, it's her life.

    I think if she wants to give it up she should. Some people probably feel better not drinking it, especially if they seem to drink it to the exclusion of everything else. I give up coffee from time to time since I can get into a pattern of going overboard with it (right now I'm trying not to drink coffee or caffeinated tea after noon and it's driving me a bit crazy, since I was overdoing it).

    However, sometimes people think they ought to give up something instead of really wanting to, and diet soda is one of those things where you hear that it's poison or making you fat or silly things that are not true. If people are giving it up for those reasons, and not more factual ones, they might want to know that it's not necessary--for example, that lots of people are able to drink it and lose or even find it helpful.

    I don't agree with the frequent advice that you should change your diet as little as possible when starting a weight loss plan, since for me it's motivating to see myself doing something positive, and some of the bigger changes go along with that, so I can see that side.

    But, on the other hand, if I had added on to my dietary changes when I started a requirement that I also drop coffee--which happens to be something I can use in place of how I used to use food, as a break, a relaxing taste treat, whatever--I would have made this harder for myself and deprived myself of something I enjoy, for no reason. I actually made the call when I started that I wasn't going to worry about coffee until I was really comfortable with my eating. (And now that I'm close to goal I'm messing with it and might drop it for a while.)

    Similarly, I like to give up foods as part of my Lent practices, usually meat plus sweets. This time I did not (I started losing weight last January, so was still somewhat in the early stages), in part because I don't want my practices to relate to weight loss efforts, but more because I thought adding things would make it more difficult than it needed to be when I mostly wanted my diet to feel natural and enjoyable. This year I might well go back to my usual.

    So I do think that sometimes newbies to MFP seem to be doing too much at once and adding difficulties that are not necessary (if you really miss diet coke and end up having more trouble not overeating cookies, that's not helpful). However, that's going to depend on the person, so I think it's both useful to present the "you don't have to" ideas to OP and challenge things like "aspartame will KILL you TOMORROW and make you FAT" (not said by OP, of course) and also to respect her decision and answer her question.

    When I gave up diet soda I lost a lot of weight, whereas I couldn't before. It did not lead to me eating more cookies. It might have actually lead to me craving less cookies. I don't know. I was also counting calories, so that was probably what did it, but I had a hard time losing prior to this and this time the pounds just flew off and i was able to keep it off for almost 2 years now. I don't know that the giving up soda had anything to do with it, but it might have. Also, if you're drinking soda, it's pretty much guaranteed that you will be drinking less water. Isn't water good for you? myfitnesspal recommends 8 glasses a day. I know that's an unnecessarily high amount, but if I'm drinking soda instead, it's likely that amount will be reduced to zero.

    I suppose it hasn't been proven definitively that the chemicals in soda are bad, but that doesn't mean they aren't.

    Water in soda somehow doesn't count for ... water. Check.
    You started counting calories and lost weight but it was maybe because you stopped drinking soda at the same time. Check.
    Chemicals aren't shown to be bad. But maybe they are. Check.

    Logic, this post has it.

    I'll buy that being used to the taste of sweetness might influence your palate and make you crave other sweet, calorie rich things and thus increase the tendency to go over on your calories. That seems to be a personal taste thing.

    well, water is in foods too, but pure water sounds better. pretty sure when they have the 8 cups of water recommendation, they mean actual water, not water in foods.

    doesn't matter if my post is right or wrong. giving up diet soda will not kill you.

    man, i think some of the people here have diet soda as their personal god.

    oh and i stopped counting calories regularly almost 2 years ago and still kept the weight off and it was extremely easy. any other time i tried to diet, i put it right back on. diet soda is possibly the reason.

    No actually, the recommendation on water comes from an old paper and is "equivalent of" not actual distilled water (which is gross) you can have it in tea or tomatoes or what not.

    Giving up anything won't kill you - you can give up apples, pork or caramelized puppies and it doesn't matter. The point is, for the majority of people that focusing on the majors is more important than random abnegation - that is what we try to get across.

    That the OP decided that she wanted to stop drinking diet soda is fine - I don't care. Is it the best strategy for weight loss when some struggles with willpower? Heck, NO. Study after study shows that you only have so much ability to modify behavior by strength of will - one might want to focus that on the major factors that influence weight loss and quality of health.

    It might very well be that going cold turkey is the best thing in terms of soda and palate choices for some people. I make no comment on that and if you read my posts I'm not challenging the OPs decision to do that - however the logic that it doesn't count as water, etc. well that's just off.

    BTW, in the last two years you never drank a single soda? Did you suddenly gain weight?
    Personally, soda isn't a god. Rarely drink the stuff - but at 60 cals a bottle for the stuff I do drink, it hardly influences my weight at all.



    well, i believe it helped stop my cravings for other things. also do buy into the fact that it's chemicals and therefore not all that great. you don't have to if you don't want to.

    no, i didn't give it up entirely. i still drink it as a mixer with alcohol sometimes when i go out drinking. gotta mix alcohol with something. i gave up diet soda as an every day thing to drink with meals.

    distilled water is not gross.

    So you drink soda with moderation. Got it. Hope it isn't making you fat. You actually do what everyone is recommending.

    BTW - distilled water is not a good idea. And taste being a personal thing and everything, you might like it but it is generally accepted as poor in taste. It is also possibly unhealthy to drink it as it might leads to mineral leaching. Don't take my word for it.

    WHO: http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/nutrientschap12.pdf


    I cut down on diet soda drastically. I am not doing what everyone is recommending. They are saying there is nothing wrong with drinking it all the time. Nope, not making me fat. Already said that I have kept my weight off for almost 2 years and haven't even had to log to do that. I think that lowering my diet soda intake by like 95% has helped with this. Apparently you disagree, but you're wrong. You're also not me.

    meh, I mostly drink tap water or water through my works filter on the tap. If by distilled, you mean bottled water, I rarely drink that. Didn't read your link. Don't care.

    No. distilled means distilled. Not bottled. Most bottled waters aren't distilled water.

    So moderation works. Good to know.
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
    edited January 2015
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    JPW1990 wrote: »
    BFDeal wrote: »
    People love saying they're addicted to things. That removes any sense or personal responsibility for their actions. Give up sodas or don't for whatever reasons you want but get rid of the idea you're addicted to them. At worst you have a habit that's easily broken.

    Really. If you can't be helpful, just leave it alone. I had no idea a post about diet soda would cause such controversy.

    People on these boards generally prioritize being right above being helpful or supportive. I regret any time I come in here to look up something specific, because inevitably, it's buried in pages of whining and accusations. Next time someone asks why you're giving it up, tell them you prefer your tooth enamel stay on your teeth where it belongs. Diffuses the whole "I'll pretend I believe you should do what you want, but btw, my plan is better than yours" problem that pops up in every thread around here.

    seriously. o.p. wants to give up soda. not sure why the people who worship their soda god have such an issue with this. they can worship their soda god all they want. doesn't mean the o.p. has to.
  • Aviva92
    Aviva92 Posts: 2,333 Member
    edited January 2015
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    Aviva92 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    Aviva92 wrote: »
    why do people need to defend diet soda as though it's a huge travesty to give it up? if she wants to give it up, it's her life.

    I think if she wants to give it up she should. Some people probably feel better not drinking it, especially if they seem to drink it to the exclusion of everything else. I give up coffee from time to time since I can get into a pattern of going overboard with it (right now I'm trying not to drink coffee or caffeinated tea after noon and it's driving me a bit crazy, since I was overdoing it).

    However, sometimes people think they ought to give up something instead of really wanting to, and diet soda is one of those things where you hear that it's poison or making you fat or silly things that are not true. If people are giving it up for those reasons, and not more factual ones, they might want to know that it's not necessary--for example, that lots of people are able to drink it and lose or even find it helpful.

    I don't agree with the frequent advice that you should change your diet as little as possible when starting a weight loss plan, since for me it's motivating to see myself doing something positive, and some of the bigger changes go along with that, so I can see that side.

    But, on the other hand, if I had added on to my dietary changes when I started a requirement that I also drop coffee--which happens to be something I can use in place of how I used to use food, as a break, a relaxing taste treat, whatever--I would have made this harder for myself and deprived myself of something I enjoy, for no reason. I actually made the call when I started that I wasn't going to worry about coffee until I was really comfortable with my eating. (And now that I'm close to goal I'm messing with it and might drop it for a while.)

    Similarly, I like to give up foods as part of my Lent practices, usually meat plus sweets. This time I did not (I started losing weight last January, so was still somewhat in the early stages), in part because I don't want my practices to relate to weight loss efforts, but more because I thought adding things would make it more difficult than it needed to be when I mostly wanted my diet to feel natural and enjoyable. This year I might well go back to my usual.

    So I do think that sometimes newbies to MFP seem to be doing too much at once and adding difficulties that are not necessary (if you really miss diet coke and end up having more trouble not overeating cookies, that's not helpful). However, that's going to depend on the person, so I think it's both useful to present the "you don't have to" ideas to OP and challenge things like "aspartame will KILL you TOMORROW and make you FAT" (not said by OP, of course) and also to respect her decision and answer her question.

    When I gave up diet soda I lost a lot of weight, whereas I couldn't before. It did not lead to me eating more cookies. It might have actually lead to me craving less cookies. I don't know. I was also counting calories, so that was probably what did it, but I had a hard time losing prior to this and this time the pounds just flew off and i was able to keep it off for almost 2 years now. I don't know that the giving up soda had anything to do with it, but it might have. Also, if you're drinking soda, it's pretty much guaranteed that you will be drinking less water. Isn't water good for you? myfitnesspal recommends 8 glasses a day. I know that's an unnecessarily high amount, but if I'm drinking soda instead, it's likely that amount will be reduced to zero.

    I suppose it hasn't been proven definitively that the chemicals in soda are bad, but that doesn't mean they aren't.

    Water in soda somehow doesn't count for ... water. Check.
    You started counting calories and lost weight but it was maybe because you stopped drinking soda at the same time. Check.
    Chemicals aren't shown to be bad. But maybe they are. Check.

    Logic, this post has it.

    I'll buy that being used to the taste of sweetness might influence your palate and make you crave other sweet, calorie rich things and thus increase the tendency to go over on your calories. That seems to be a personal taste thing.

    well, water is in foods too, but pure water sounds better. pretty sure when they have the 8 cups of water recommendation, they mean actual water, not water in foods.

    doesn't matter if my post is right or wrong. giving up diet soda will not kill you.

    man, i think some of the people here have diet soda as their personal god.

    oh and i stopped counting calories regularly almost 2 years ago and still kept the weight off and it was extremely easy. any other time i tried to diet, i put it right back on. diet soda is possibly the reason.

    No actually, the recommendation on water comes from an old paper and is "equivalent of" not actual distilled water (which is gross) you can have it in tea or tomatoes or what not.

    Giving up anything won't kill you - you can give up apples, pork or caramelized puppies and it doesn't matter. The point is, for the majority of people that focusing on the majors is more important than random abnegation - that is what we try to get across.

    That the OP decided that she wanted to stop drinking diet soda is fine - I don't care. Is it the best strategy for weight loss when some struggles with willpower? Heck, NO. Study after study shows that you only have so much ability to modify behavior by strength of will - one might want to focus that on the major factors that influence weight loss and quality of health.

    It might very well be that going cold turkey is the best thing in terms of soda and palate choices for some people. I make no comment on that and if you read my posts I'm not challenging the OPs decision to do that - however the logic that it doesn't count as water, etc. well that's just off.

    BTW, in the last two years you never drank a single soda? Did you suddenly gain weight?
    Personally, soda isn't a god. Rarely drink the stuff - but at 60 cals a bottle for the stuff I do drink, it hardly influences my weight at all.



    well, i believe it helped stop my cravings for other things. also do buy into the fact that it's chemicals and therefore not all that great. you don't have to if you don't want to.

    no, i didn't give it up entirely. i still drink it as a mixer with alcohol sometimes when i go out drinking. gotta mix alcohol with something. i gave up diet soda as an every day thing to drink with meals.

    distilled water is not gross.

    So you drink soda with moderation. Got it. Hope it isn't making you fat. You actually do what everyone is recommending.

    BTW - distilled water is not a good idea. And taste being a personal thing and everything, you might like it but it is generally accepted as poor in taste. It is also possibly unhealthy to drink it as it might leads to mineral leaching. Don't take my word for it.

    WHO: http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/nutrientschap12.pdf


    I cut down on diet soda drastically. I am not doing what everyone is recommending. They are saying there is nothing wrong with drinking it all the time. Nope, not making me fat. Already said that I have kept my weight off for almost 2 years and haven't even had to log to do that. I think that lowering my diet soda intake by like 95% has helped with this. Apparently you disagree, but you're wrong. You're also not me.

    meh, I mostly drink tap water or water through my works filter on the tap. If by distilled, you mean bottled water, I rarely drink that. Didn't read your link. Don't care.

    No. distilled means distilled. Not bottled. Most bottled waters aren't distilled water.

    So moderation works. Good to know.

    so condescending. people would have viewed my drinking it twice a day before as "moderation" too. that does not work for me. as a mixer, drinking it once a month works. different levels of "moderation".

    whatever, i drink tap water. why are you telling me about distilled water?
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    me and the op will stick with mostly water and you soda god people can stick to your soda. why do you care?
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