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Cut it down. Go for the full fat option if it's lower sugar. Get your sugars from natural sources like fresh fruit and dairy. Try to keep below to around 0.03 of your calorie total in grams - eg 60g for 1800 cals.
Not to say things won't work if you keep a calorie deficit and dont worry about sugar but in my experience you lose better when you do control it, and also have less hunger!
All IMO, and based on my own experience.0 -
There's nothing inherently wrong with low fat yogurt. Also, not all brands are loaded with sugar.0
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And here I've been eating a Snickers almost every day
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YES, sugar is BAD for us.
And for those of you that do not know - ALL CARBOHYDRATES are converted into GLUCOSE by the body.
Regarding the composition of fruit - I am not a chemist and I too have read the web link that with regard to herrspoons comments "There are three dietery monosaccharides - glucose, fructose and galactose. Lactose, like maltose and sucrose, is a disaccharide."
What I was trying to put across is that eating a whole fruit, although it contains "sugar" has healthy benefits because of the vitamins, antioxidants and fibre that it contains. And drinking fruit juice is not the same as having a whole fruit.
With regard to the sugar content in the yogurts - I was advised by my dietician to go for the ones that contain 3% of sugar or less. Now 3% of any amount is 3% for those of you that do not know your maths. And of course, if you are counting your calorie intake the more you eat the more calories you will have eaten, but the percentage of sugar will still
be 3% of the total that you ate (the carbohydrate of which are sugars will be different).
There was an advert on UK TV last night, with regard to people cutting down on their intake of sugar! A programme a couple of nights ago on UK TV about the Tudors, showed how their health deteriorated because of eating - SUGAR! The sugar caused dreadful tooth decay and because of that, bacteria entered into the blood stream. Their dentistry was not as advanced as ours and they did not have pain killing relief nor any antibiotics. Any rotten teeth were pulled out with no sedation. Most of them had died because of blood poisoning due to getting the rotten teeth (and infections) which was an entry for bacteria from eating too much SUGAR!
Our modern diet consists of too much sugar and sugar in all sorts of products (hidden sugars).
There was also a programme not long ago on UK TV that talked about that sugar is far worse than fat.
Many years ago we were told that butter was no good for us, now we are told that it is better to eat butter than some of the margarines. We were told that fat was bad for us and now we are told there are good fats and bad fats. The good fats are those in fish, nuts, avocado pears and coconuts.
Eating everything in moderation is the key, but with people who have a glucose intolerance or have diabetes, it is even more important to control sugar intake whether this is from simple or complex carbs.
Eating a snickers bar everyday is fine as long as you are eating other healthy foods and are not glucose intolerant or a diabetic.
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Unless you are diabetic don't worry about sugar. It is a great source of energy.0
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I was gonna join in on the very interesting conversation about who knows best... but instead im just gonna say this: Don't overcomplicate things. See what works for you. Try not to overdose on added sugar.0
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Paul_Collyer wrote: »Cut it down. Go for the full fat option if it's lower sugar. Get your sugars from natural sources like fresh fruit and dairy.
Um, the sugar in plain lowfat yogurt IS sugar from dairy.
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herrspoons wrote: »Fuchsiagenii wrote: »YES, sugar is BAD for us.
And for those of you that do not know - ALL CARBOHYDRATES are converted into GLUCOSE by the body.
Regarding the composition of fruit - I am not a chemist and I too have read the web link that with regard to herrspoons comments "There are three dietery monosaccharides - glucose, fructose and galactose. Lactose, like maltose and sucrose, is a disaccharide."
What I was trying to put across is that eating a whole fruit, although it contains "sugar" has healthy benefits because of the vitamins, antioxidants and fibre that it contains. And drinking fruit juice is not the same as having a whole fruit.
With regard to the sugar content in the yogurts - I was advised by my dietician to go for the ones that contain 3% of sugar or less. Now 3% of any amount is 3% for those of you that do not know your maths. And of course, if you are counting your calorie intake the more you eat the more calories you will have eaten, but the percentage of sugar will still
be 3% of the total that you ate (the carbohydrate of which are sugars will be different).
There was an advert on UK TV last night, with regard to people cutting down on their intake of sugar! A programme a couple of nights ago on UK TV about the Tudors, showed how their health deteriorated because of eating - SUGAR! The sugar caused dreadful tooth decay and because of that, bacteria entered into the blood stream. Their dentistry was not as advanced as ours and they did not have pain killing relief nor any antibiotics. Any rotten teeth were pulled out with no sedation. Most of them had died because of blood poisoning due to getting the rotten teeth (and infections) which was an entry for bacteria from eating too much SUGAR!
Our modern diet consists of too much sugar and sugar in all sorts of products (hidden sugars).
There was also a programme not long ago on UK TV that talked about that sugar is far worse than fat.
Many years ago we were told that butter was no good for us, now we are told that it is better to eat butter than some of the margarines. We were told that fat was bad for us and now we are told there are good fats and bad fats. The good fats are those in fish, nuts, avocado pears and coconuts.
Eating everything in moderation is the key, but with people who have a glucose intolerance or have diabetes, it is even more important to control sugar intake whether this is from simple or complex carbs.
Eating a snickers bar everyday is fine as long as you are eating other healthy foods and are not glucose intolerant or a diabetic.
Please do not post as an authority when it is clear that you are not.
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herrspoons wrote: »Fuchsiagenii wrote: »YES, sugar is BAD for us.
And for those of you that do not know - ALL CARBOHYDRATES are converted into GLUCOSE by the body.
Regarding the composition of fruit - I am not a chemist and I too have read the web link that with regard to herrspoons comments "There are three dietery monosaccharides - glucose, fructose and galactose. Lactose, like maltose and sucrose, is a disaccharide."
What I was trying to put across is that eating a whole fruit, although it contains "sugar" has healthy benefits because of the vitamins, antioxidants and fibre that it contains. And drinking fruit juice is not the same as having a whole fruit.
With regard to the sugar content in the yogurts - I was advised by my dietician to go for the ones that contain 3% of sugar or less. Now 3% of any amount is 3% for those of you that do not know your maths. And of course, if you are counting your calorie intake the more you eat the more calories you will have eaten, but the percentage of sugar will still
be 3% of the total that you ate (the carbohydrate of which are sugars will be different).
There was an advert on UK TV last night, with regard to people cutting down on their intake of sugar! A programme a couple of nights ago on UK TV about the Tudors, showed how their health deteriorated because of eating - SUGAR! The sugar caused dreadful tooth decay and because of that, bacteria entered into the blood stream. Their dentistry was not as advanced as ours and they did not have pain killing relief nor any antibiotics. Any rotten teeth were pulled out with no sedation. Most of them had died because of blood poisoning due to getting the rotten teeth (and infections) which was an entry for bacteria from eating too much SUGAR!
Our modern diet consists of too much sugar and sugar in all sorts of products (hidden sugars).
There was also a programme not long ago on UK TV that talked about that sugar is far worse than fat.
Many years ago we were told that butter was no good for us, now we are told that it is better to eat butter than some of the margarines. We were told that fat was bad for us and now we are told there are good fats and bad fats. The good fats are those in fish, nuts, avocado pears and coconuts.
Eating everything in moderation is the key, but with people who have a glucose intolerance or have diabetes, it is even more important to control sugar intake whether this is from simple or complex carbs.
Eating a snickers bar everyday is fine as long as you are eating other healthy foods and are not glucose intolerant or a diabetic.
Please do not post as an authority when it is clear that you are not.
I am NOT posting as an authority. Just stating the facts!
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lemurcat12 wrote: »Paul_Collyer wrote: »Cut it down. Go for the full fat option if it's lower sugar. Get your sugars from natural sources like fresh fruit and dairy.
Um, the sugar in plain lowfat yogurt IS sugar from dairy.
Well I mean some yoghurts have sugars added to them to compensate for the reduced fat in terms of taste, as I understand it.
If there is a low fat yoghurt that doesnt do this and calories are at a premium that's another matter, although for taste I'd always go full fat and save elsewhere :-)0 -
Paul_Collyer wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Paul_Collyer wrote: »Cut it down. Go for the full fat option if it's lower sugar. Get your sugars from natural sources like fresh fruit and dairy.
Um, the sugar in plain lowfat yogurt IS sugar from dairy.
Well I mean some yoghurts have sugars added to them to compensate for the reduced fat in terms of taste, as I understand it.
If there is a low fat yoghurt that doesnt do this and calories are at a premium that's another matter, although for taste I'd always go full fat and save elsewhere :-)
Oiko's Triple Zero.
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What about Maltose? That's a processed sugar! That must be bad for me too right?
Not.
Man - do you ever get the feeling that people only read things that reinforce their already incorrect opinions?
Cico and it works.0 -
Fuchsiagenii wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Fuchsiagenii wrote: »YES, sugar is BAD for us.
And for those of you that do not know - ALL CARBOHYDRATES are converted into GLUCOSE by the body.
Regarding the composition of fruit - I am not a chemist and I too have read the web link that with regard to herrspoons comments "There are three dietery monosaccharides - glucose, fructose and galactose. Lactose, like maltose and sucrose, is a disaccharide."
What I was trying to put across is that eating a whole fruit, although it contains "sugar" has healthy benefits because of the vitamins, antioxidants and fibre that it contains. And drinking fruit juice is not the same as having a whole fruit.
With regard to the sugar content in the yogurts - I was advised by my dietician to go for the ones that contain 3% of sugar or less. Now 3% of any amount is 3% for those of you that do not know your maths. And of course, if you are counting your calorie intake the more you eat the more calories you will have eaten, but the percentage of sugar will still
be 3% of the total that you ate (the carbohydrate of which are sugars will be different).
There was an advert on UK TV last night, with regard to people cutting down on their intake of sugar! A programme a couple of nights ago on UK TV about the Tudors, showed how their health deteriorated because of eating - SUGAR! The sugar caused dreadful tooth decay and because of that, bacteria entered into the blood stream. Their dentistry was not as advanced as ours and they did not have pain killing relief nor any antibiotics. Any rotten teeth were pulled out with no sedation. Most of them had died because of blood poisoning due to getting the rotten teeth (and infections) which was an entry for bacteria from eating too much SUGAR!
Our modern diet consists of too much sugar and sugar in all sorts of products (hidden sugars).
There was also a programme not long ago on UK TV that talked about that sugar is far worse than fat.
Many years ago we were told that butter was no good for us, now we are told that it is better to eat butter than some of the margarines. We were told that fat was bad for us and now we are told there are good fats and bad fats. The good fats are those in fish, nuts, avocado pears and coconuts.
Eating everything in moderation is the key, but with people who have a glucose intolerance or have diabetes, it is even more important to control sugar intake whether this is from simple or complex carbs.
Eating a snickers bar everyday is fine as long as you are eating other healthy foods and are not glucose intolerant or a diabetic.
Please do not post as an authority when it is clear that you are not.
I am NOT posting as an authority. Just stating the facts!
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Fuchsiagenii wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »Fuchsiagenii wrote: »YES, sugar is BAD for us.
And for those of you that do not know - ALL CARBOHYDRATES are converted into GLUCOSE by the body.
Regarding the composition of fruit - I am not a chemist and I too have read the web link that with regard to herrspoons comments "There are three dietery monosaccharides - glucose, fructose and galactose. Lactose, like maltose and sucrose, is a disaccharide."
What I was trying to put across is that eating a whole fruit, although it contains "sugar" has healthy benefits because of the vitamins, antioxidants and fibre that it contains. And drinking fruit juice is not the same as having a whole fruit.
With regard to the sugar content in the yogurts - I was advised by my dietician to go for the ones that contain 3% of sugar or less. Now 3% of any amount is 3% for those of you that do not know your maths. And of course, if you are counting your calorie intake the more you eat the more calories you will have eaten, but the percentage of sugar will still
be 3% of the total that you ate (the carbohydrate of which are sugars will be different).
There was an advert on UK TV last night, with regard to people cutting down on their intake of sugar! A programme a couple of nights ago on UK TV about the Tudors, showed how their health deteriorated because of eating - SUGAR! The sugar caused dreadful tooth decay and because of that, bacteria entered into the blood stream. Their dentistry was not as advanced as ours and they did not have pain killing relief nor any antibiotics. Any rotten teeth were pulled out with no sedation. Most of them had died because of blood poisoning due to getting the rotten teeth (and infections) which was an entry for bacteria from eating too much SUGAR!
Our modern diet consists of too much sugar and sugar in all sorts of products (hidden sugars).
There was also a programme not long ago on UK TV that talked about that sugar is far worse than fat.
Many years ago we were told that butter was no good for us, now we are told that it is better to eat butter than some of the margarines. We were told that fat was bad for us and now we are told there are good fats and bad fats. The good fats are those in fish, nuts, avocado pears and coconuts.
Eating everything in moderation is the key, but with people who have a glucose intolerance or have diabetes, it is even more important to control sugar intake whether this is from simple or complex carbs.
Eating a snickers bar everyday is fine as long as you are eating other healthy foods and are not glucose intolerant or a diabetic.
Please do not post as an authority when it is clear that you are not.
I am NOT posting as an authority. Just stating the facts!
Where?
"I am not a chemist"
Oh, and to be fair, the last two paragraphs of the first post in this chain are fine.
edit: subject-verb agreement is hard0 -
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Paul_Collyer wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Paul_Collyer wrote: »Cut it down. Go for the full fat option if it's lower sugar. Get your sugars from natural sources like fresh fruit and dairy.
Um, the sugar in plain lowfat yogurt IS sugar from dairy.
Well I mean some yoghurts have sugars added to them to compensate for the reduced fat in terms of taste, as I understand it.
If there is a low fat yoghurt that doesnt do this and calories are at a premium that's another matter, although for taste I'd always go full fat and save elsewhere :-)
A lot of full fat yogurt has sugar added too. Most flavored yogurts have either sugar or artificial sweetener added, regardless of the fat content.0 -
Fuchsiagenii wrote: »What I was trying to put across is that eating a whole fruit, although it contains "sugar" has healthy benefits because of the vitamins, antioxidants and fibre that it contains.
And the sugar (not "sugar") it contains is not bad for us. Sugar itself is fine. It's quite often found in foods that have low nutrient density and lots of calories, so you might want to eat those foods sparingly.
This has zero to do with OP's question about yogurt, so I'm not sure why you are going on about it.With regard to the sugar content in the yogurts - I was advised by my dietician to go for the ones that contain 3% of sugar or less.
That's dopey advice, because 3% of WHAT? If you look at Fage 0%, 2%, and full fat, it ranges from about 3% sugar by gram to 4% sugar by gram (the full fat has the most measured that way). But if you go by calorie, 28% of the calories in non fat is from sugar, whereas only 16% of that in full fat is from sugar.
Anyway, 3 grams of sugar per 100 grams is about what no fat yogurt has unless you add stuff, so does not support your ridiculous advice that low fat or skim is bad for you. But mostly the percentage thing seems like a dumb rule, why not just read the label. Does your dietician not think you are capable of that and so gives you silly rules?
Also, what happens to me if I eat the full fat with 4% sugar, gasp! Or, say, a carrot with 5% of its grams from sugar. Oh, the horror!A programme a couple of nights ago on UK TV about the Tudors, showed how their health deteriorated because of eating - SUGAR!
I'm guessing that they also had less than optimal dental care regimes or dentists (as you admit), so why is this relevant?Our modern diet consists of too much sugar and sugar in all sorts of products (hidden sugars).
Speak for yourself. I don't allow sugar to hide from me, so I know precisely how much sugar I eat and in what and it does not concern me.There was also a programme not long ago on UK TV that talked about that sugar is far worse than fat.
Yes, that's the current scare. 20 years ago fat was far worse, according to the same sources. In 5 or 10 years it will be something else. My advice: don't get your information from random TV programs that seem designed to appeal to the gullible who are looking for a quick fix and an excuse for not taking personal responsibility. Also, read labels.
I do agree that sugar in moderation is fine, of course, but that's inconsistent with your "sugar is BAD" stuff above. It's fine. But of course anything in excess is bad, and lots of people go to excess with sugar. That's a good thing to avoid.0 -
Paul_Collyer wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Paul_Collyer wrote: »Cut it down. Go for the full fat option if it's lower sugar. Get your sugars from natural sources like fresh fruit and dairy.
Um, the sugar in plain lowfat yogurt IS sugar from dairy.
Well I mean some yoghurts have sugars added to them to compensate for the reduced fat in terms of taste, as I understand it.
I don't believe that's true. It's commonly asserted, but I think people are confused because this does happen with some lowfat/no fat products (like fat free cookies or other horrors) and low fat yogurt does, of course, have more of its calories from sugar.
I mostly eat plain yogurt, and I read labels, and none of the brands I eat (mostly Fage, I just recently tried Wallaby, various local ones) have added sugar, and nor does any skim or 2% milk I've ever seen. It doesn't make a lot of sense, really.
What is true is that flavored yogurt often has sugar added (although it's pretty obvious, not hidden, and some of this is from fruit, of course). However, this has nothing to do with full fat vs. skim--flavored full fat also has sugar added. There's a local brand I like (not greek, I get it from the farm directly sometimes) that comes only in full fat and I get both their flavored and non flavored on occasion and, of course, the flavored has some added sugar.0 -
I didn't make the programme about the Tudors. I didn't make the advert that appeared last night on UK TV about sugar.
I didn't make up the information I passed on that was given to me by my dietician, nor the facts about fat soluble vitamins.
Didn't realise the forums were so "anti".
I have loved sugar and I love all food and cakes. A few years ago I became glucose intolerant (at the age of 55). Peripheral nerve damage had already been done. These are facts. I now am more strict with the amount of simple carbs that I consume.
My husband refers to sugar as "Poison" and I now believe that too!0
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