Is all sugar bad sugar?
bohonomad
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I'm a chocoholic and suggar addict and I've been trying to cut it out since I'm trying to lose weight and pretty scared of the possibility of dibetes. Even though I feel like I'm not eating that much sugar I still keep going over my daily limit with the fruit I eat. Is it okay if the sugar comes from fruit?? I still want more! helppp!
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Diabetes comes from genetics/being overweight or obese, not from consuming too much sugar.-1
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Sugar is sugar. There are carbs/sugar in vegetables as well. Corn suyrup has a bad wrap. Honey is sugar. Sugar from the cane is just as bad as corn surgars. Carbs/sugar brings up your cholesterol not fats be they so called good or bad fats.0
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Diabetes comes from genetics/being overweight or obese, not from consuming too much sugar.
Or your immune system being incredibly confused on whether your beta cells need to be destroyed or not.
Really, consuming sugar does not cause diabetes. The cause of type 1 is primarily unknown (most researchers are thinking that it's a genetic predisposition on top of exposure to certain viruses that can trigger the autoimmune attack), while the main cause of type 2 is from genetics, age, weight, and sedentary lifestyle.
In the end, all carbohydrates are converted into glucose, including natural and added sugars and complex carbohydrates, and an excess of any carbohydrate (including those from fruit) that causes a calorie surplus will cause you to gain weight. Natural sugar is seen as the better option, because the foods that it is found in also contain vitamins, minerals, and fiber that promote general health and satiety. On the other hand, foods high in added sugars tend to contain a lot of empty calories and very little nutritional value (compare a soda to an apple). MFP's sugar goal is really low when you factor in natural sugars from fruits and vegetables, so I personally follow the World Health Organization's recommendation to consume less than 10% of my total daily calories from added sugar.0 -
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My carbs for today were 14 and my sugar 3. Yesterday was much higher 95 for Carbs and 8 for sugar.0
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Hey op, you're in luck! Have I got news for you!
No sugar is bad. Additionally, the source from which you get sugar doesn't really matter. Sure, an apple will give you more nutrients and fiber than most chocolates, but that doesn't mean you should avoid the chocolates.
Like many, I'm still trying to figure out how diabetes works. I know genetics have to do with it, but also being overweight can play a part as well. As far as I know, eating sugar isn't a singular cause of diabetes, but it could possibly go hand in hand if someone is generally over consuming food and has a predisposition for diabetes.-1 -
All carbs and sugars are broken down to it's simplest form and absorbed. The body can't tell the difference between monosaccharides and disaccharides. It just breaks them down to be absorbed.
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jamesedwards6 wrote: »My carbs for today were 14 and my sugar 3. Yesterday was much higher 95 for Carbs and 8 for sugar.
Wow good job!!
Op fruit and milk always put me over in sugar nearly everyday. I'm having no problems losing weight0 -
I'm a chocoholic and suggar addict and I've been trying to cut it out since I'm trying to lose weight and pretty scared of the possibility of dibetes. Even though I feel like I'm not eating that much sugar I still keep going over my daily limit with the fruit I eat. Is it okay if the sugar comes from fruit?? I still want more! helppp!
bohonomad everyone is different. Personally I wish I had cut out sugar 40 years ago so that I might have fewer health issues today. Losing the sugar for four months now has greatly improved my health so far. Actually some think the worse kind of sugar is fructose from fruit since one of its objective is to trigger weight gain.
ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/5/911.full
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GaleHawkins wrote: »I'm a chocoholic and suggar addict and I've been trying to cut it out since I'm trying to lose weight and pretty scared of the possibility of dibetes. Even though I feel like I'm not eating that much sugar I still keep going over my daily limit with the fruit I eat. Is it okay if the sugar comes from fruit?? I still want more! helppp!
bohonomad everyone is different. Personally I wish I had cut out sugar 40 years ago so that I might have fewer health issues today. Losing the sugar for four months now has greatly improved my health so far. Actually some think the worse kind of sugar is fructose from fruit since one of its objective is to trigger weight gain.
ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/5/911.full
Although there are existing data on the metabolic and endocrine effects of dietary fructose that suggest that increased consumption of fructose may be detrimental in terms of body weight and adiposity and the metabolic indexes associated with the insulin resistance syndrome, much more research is needed to fully understand the metabolic effect of dietary fructose in humans.
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jamesedwards6 wrote: »My carbs for today were 14 and my sugar 3. Yesterday was much higher 95 for Carbs and 8 for sugar.
I could never. Cause I like fruit. And vegetables0 -
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Duh, are all witches bad witches, no...... but chocolate and the beetus is kinda scary, especially when there mocha involved.0
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emily_stew wrote: »obscuremusicreference wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »I'm a chocoholic and suggar addict and I've been trying to cut it out since I'm trying to lose weight and pretty scared of the possibility of dibetes. Even though I feel like I'm not eating that much sugar I still keep going over my daily limit with the fruit I eat. Is it okay if the sugar comes from fruit?? I still want more! helppp!
bohonomad everyone is different. Personally I wish I had cut out sugar 40 years ago so that I might have fewer health issues today. Losing the sugar for four months now has greatly improved my health so far. Actually some think the worse kind of sugar is fructose from fruit since one of its objective is to trigger weight gain.
ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/5/911.full
Although there are existing data on the metabolic and endocrine effects of dietary fructose that suggest that increased consumption of fructose may be detrimental in terms of body weight and adiposity and the metabolic indexes associated with the insulin resistance syndrome, much more research is needed to fully understand the metabolic effect of dietary fructose in humans.
Get out of here with your science!
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I'm a chocoholic and suggar addict and I've been trying to cut it out since I'm trying to lose weight and pretty scared of the possibility of dibetes. Even though I feel like I'm not eating that much sugar I still keep going over my daily limit with the fruit I eat. Is it okay if the sugar comes from fruit?? I still want more! helppp!
You do not become diabetic from too much sugar. Diabetes often comes from being overweight or obese, but you can also get it if you are of a normal weight. I have two aunts who are sisters who are insulin dependent diabetics. One was overweight and the other not when they were diagnosed as youngsters. I think my other two aunts, who are also their sisters, have diabetes that is controlled through proper diet.
Do you have any diabetes in your family, and that's why you're worried about sugar intake? If so, you might want to speak with your doctor.
Unless you have medical issues involving sugar intake, then watching the amount you eat comes down to personal preference only.0 -
That is one wacky looking cat.obscuremusicreference wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »I'm a chocoholic and suggar addict and I've been trying to cut it out since I'm trying to lose weight and pretty scared of the possibility of dibetes. Even though I feel like I'm not eating that much sugar I still keep going over my daily limit with the fruit I eat. Is it okay if the sugar comes from fruit?? I still want more! helppp!
bohonomad everyone is different. Personally I wish I had cut out sugar 40 years ago so that I might have fewer health issues today. Losing the sugar for four months now has greatly improved my health so far. Actually some think the worse kind of sugar is fructose from fruit since one of its objective is to trigger weight gain.
ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/5/911.full
Although there are existing data on the metabolic and endocrine effects of dietary fructose that suggest that increased consumption of fructose may be detrimental in terms of body weight and adiposity and the metabolic indexes associated with the insulin resistance syndrome, much more research is needed to fully understand the metabolic effect of dietary fructose in humans.
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Hi this is my first post as I only joined today. For information on sugar and loads more foods etc go to Dr Joel Fuhrman's website it will give you all the information you need without having to sift through everyones opinions, which some are not correct....-7
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Did you buy his cookbook?MeredithDoyle85 wrote: »Hi this is my first post as I only joined today. For information on sugar and loads more foods etc go to Dr Joel Fuhrman's website it will give you all the information you need without having to sift through everyones opinions, which some are not correct....
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MeredithDoyle85 wrote: »Hi this is my first post as I only joined today. For information on sugar and loads more foods etc go to Dr Joel Fuhrman's website it will give you all the information you need without having to sift through everyones opinions, which some are not correct....
Which opinions are not correct?
No as to Fuhrman's website, which is just a marketing ploy to sell his books that are not based in any truth at all.0 -
Diabetes comes from genetics/being overweight or obese, not from consuming too much sugar.
Or your immune system being incredibly confused on whether your beta cells need to be destroyed or not.
Really, consuming sugar does not cause diabetes. The cause of type 1 is primarily unknown (most researchers are thinking that it's a genetic predisposition on top of exposure to certain viruses that can trigger the autoimmune attack), while the main cause of type 2 is from genetics, age, weight, and sedentary lifestyle.
In the end, all carbohydrates are converted into glucose, including natural and added sugars and complex carbohydrates, and an excess of any carbohydrate (including those from fruit) that causes a calorie surplus will cause you to gain weight. Natural sugar is seen as the better option, because the foods that it is found in also contain vitamins, minerals, and fiber that promote general health and satiety. On the other hand, foods high in added sugars tend to contain a lot of empty calories and very little nutritional value (compare a soda to an apple). MFP's sugar goal is really low when you factor in natural sugars from fruits and vegetables, so I personally follow the World Health Organization's recommendation to consume less than 10% of my total daily calories from added sugar.
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All food gets converted into glucose before getting used by the body - carbs, protein, fat, alcohol. Simple sugar gets converted the most quickly.
I once had a glucose tolerance test, which is an ordeal. With the results, my doctor suggested that I choose a cookie over a piece of candy if I was going to eat something with sugar because it would take more time to get converted.0 -
All carbs and sugars are broken down to it's simplest form and absorbed. The body can't tell the difference between monosaccharides and disaccharides. It just breaks them down to be absorbed.
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Neither Glucose alone or a glucose / fructose mix is worse than the other, but the body can tell the difference (not saying that's a bad thing, just that the body can tell).
Glucose alone can be absorbed by a multitude of organs in the body and used as fuel, fructose however cannot and primarily is processed through the liver first.
So the body metabolizes these sugars in different ways (which would suggest the body knows the difference).
Again not saying it's a bad thing, just saying that not all sugars are the same once we eat them.0 -
Wut.tennisdude2004 wrote: »All carbs and sugars are broken down to it's simplest form and absorbed. The body can't tell the difference between monosaccharides and disaccharides. It just breaks them down to be absorbed.
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Neither Glucose alone or a glucose / fructose mix is worse than the other, but the body can tell the difference (not saying that's a bad thing, just that the body can tell).
Glucose alone can be absorbed by a multitude of organs in the body and used as fuel, fructose however cannot and primarily is processed through the liver first.
So the body metabolizes these sugars in different ways (which would suggest the body knows the difference).
Again not saying it's a bad thing, just saying that not all sugars are the same once we eat them.0 -
I could never. Cause I like fruit. And vegetables
Same here. I cut back a little because the nutritionist I was seeing at the time gave me a hard time. I used to eat a banana and two apples a day (on top of veggies with meals), and she told me I was eating way too much sugar.
Then she'd always ask if I was even tempted to have cendy and sweets. My answer was always no, "because I love apples."
Then next time she'd go into the sugar thing again. Ugh. So, one banana, one apple a day for now.0 -
I don't know. I do know I need a lot of protein, and my macro's don't stay in balance if I eat too much sugar/candy/etc. When I got rid of a daily cupcake habit my skin cleared up within a week. Don't really care if it was sugar or glutens or whatever other factor someone wants to throw at me. I only have so many calories I can eat a day, and excessive sugar doesn't help.0
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Refined/added sugar is the stuff most doctors council against. A little bit is fine, too much isn't great. Refined sugar is not something that's easy to avoid in this day and age, so I still eat chocolate - love it - but try to stay within my MFP sugar goal.
Natural sugar - e.g. in fruit - comes wrapped in fibre, so we digest it more slowly / differently, than the refined stuff. I don't worry if I go over my sugar goal on MFP because of fruit, but I do worry if I go over because I ate too much cake (i.e. refined sugar)...0 -
After rereading my post and realizing it got flagged for "abuse" I'd like to add this because I think maybe my post got misread:Hey op, you're in luck! Have I got news for you!
No sugar is bad. Additionally, the source from which you get sugar doesn't really matter. Sure, an apple will give you more nutrients and fiber than most chocolates, but that doesn't mean you should avoid the chocolates.
Like many, I'm still trying to figure out how diabetes works. I know genetics have to do with it, but also being overweight can play a part as well. As far as I know, eating sugar isn't a singular cause of diabetes, but it could possibly go hand in hand if someone is generally over consuming food and has a predisposition for diabetes.
When I said "no sugar is bad" I meant no type of sugar (fructose, glucose, etc) is bad. It was not meant to be read as "No, sugar is bad" as if I was correcting those who said that sugar is not bad.
When I said that an apple will give you more nutrients and fiber than most chocolates, I wasn't implying that people should just walk around eating apples all the time. I am a firm believer in IIFYM, and even indulging if it doesn't fit your macros from time to time. I don't know if someone just generally disagreed with my post or misunderstood it, but I just wanted to clear that up for anyone else who may have misunderstood. Thank you
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