Paleo Diet
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Because you said you eat like the above 80% of the time. So 80% of the time you eat Paleo, but even with that 80% of time you say you eat Paleo, you still eat dairy, and some grains. So really, you eat Paleo what 75% of time? The other 25% are what?
Seriously, the diet you are describing is basically a healthy, balanced diet. The same type that 95% of this board eats.
Exactly Paleo is just a healthy, balanced diet. Just call yourselves Paleo and everyone"s happy.
It is just healthy eating and is nothing to worry about.
As for the maths above, eek does my head in.
The 80/20 principle is an acknowledgment that I am an adult who takes full responsibility for every choice I make but occasionally find myself in circumstances that don’t allow 100% and I have to make compromises. Example - dinner with friends.
Right, which is why I said you obviously need a label to make your diet sound better. Otherwise, what is the reasoning for calling it something that it isn't?
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Between your personal variations from the guidelines and the 80/20 exemptions, what you're eating is really a pretty standard diet.
Which is totally cool, of course.
Exactly, I think we all have our little variations. Don't forget these rules are man made and as such are not set in concrete. I just eat food that gives me energy and makes me feel good.0 -
Because you said you eat like the above 80% of the time. So 80% of the time you eat Paleo, but even with that 80% of time you say you eat Paleo, you still eat dairy, and some grains. So really, you eat Paleo what 75% of time? The other 25% are what?
Seriously, the diet you are describing is basically a healthy, balanced diet. The same type that 95% of this board eats.
Exactly Paleo is just a healthy, balanced diet. Just call yourselves Paleo and everyone"s happy. It is just healthy eating and is nothing to worry about.
As for the maths above, eek does my head in. The 80/20 principle is an acknowledgment that I am an adult who takes full responsibility for every choice I make but occasionally find myself in circumstances that don’t allow 100% and I have to make compromises. Example - dinner with friends.
Right, which is why I said you obviously need a label to make your diet sound better. Otherwise, what is the reasoning for calling it something that it isn't?
and this is the part where paleo gets fun, because people use verbal gymnastics to try and say they are doing something that they really are not...
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Because you said you eat like the above 80% of the time. So 80% of the time you eat Paleo, but even with that 80% of time you say you eat Paleo, you still eat dairy, and some grains. So really, you eat Paleo what 75% of time? The other 25% are what?
Seriously, the diet you are describing is basically a healthy, balanced diet. The same type that 95% of this board eats.
Exactly Paleo is just a healthy, balanced diet. Just call yourselves Paleo and everyone"s happy. It is just healthy eating and is nothing to worry about.
Paleo is not just a healthy balanced diet. It's very restrictive. Suggesting you avoid a fairly long list of foods may still allow for balance, but it's not "just" a balanced diet.
And the term 'Paleo Diet' may have lost single meaning I suppose, since things I have read (here and elsewhere on the internet) about Paleo say it's a LCHF diet, but others here say no.0 -
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It's late, I'm tired and this verbal gymnastics is exhausting and pointless. My aim one day is to be 100% Paleo and I am not doing it for the "label" (whatever that means) I am doing it because I like the way it makes me feel. The recipes books are awesome.
Over and out, I'm off to bed.
Legumes - I don't really like them so I don't miss them.0 -
My aim one day is to be 100% Paleo and I am not doing it for the "label" (whatever that means) I am doing it because I like the way it makes me feel. The recipes books are awesome.
I agree that lots of paleo recipes are awesome. You don't have to be paleo to use them, so I do from time to time, or just get ideas from them.
However, this is what I don't understand. Assuming you eat a perfectly healthy diet now, why aspire to be 100% paleo and drop foods like dairy and legumes that are healthy for most people or which make you feel good? What's the point? Just to fit a label or theory that doesn't seem to be well-grounded?0 -
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So you're not Paleo, but say you're Paleo...I get it. Everyone needs a label. [/quote]
I hate to continue reading this thread but Hornsby's comment is spot-on. Why does everybody need a label for diet? How about just being "healthy"? Why does it have to be a buzzword like "Paleo", or "Atkins", or "Mediterranean"; how about "healthy"? Everything doesn't need to be a buzzword or prefaced with a lowercase "e" or "i" to be good.0 -
Basically, I agree that we do seem to be eating similar diets so that is one of the reasons I never understand it when everyone gets upset as soon as the word Paleo is mentioned. I just feel better staying away from grains, especially wheat and I eat minimal dairy.
I don't get you saying you stay away from grains when you eat corn and rice.
Is it that you just like saying it?
I generally only eat gluten-free oats, and hence would never dream of saying that I stay away from grains. I don't get the need to have some sort of restrictive label on your eating.
You're really not eating Paleo. It sounds like a lovely way to eat, what you are doing, but it's not Paleo. It's just nice, basic food.
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lemurcat12 wrote: »My aim one day is to be 100% Paleo and I am not doing it for the "label" (whatever that means) I am doing it because I like the way it makes me feel. The recipes books are awesome.
I agree that lots of paleo recipes are awesome. You don't have to be paleo to use them, so I do from time to time, or just get ideas from them.
However, this is what I don't understand. Assuming you eat a perfectly healthy diet now, why aspire to be 100% paleo and drop foods like dairy and legumes that are healthy for most people or which make you feel good? What's the point? Just to fit a label or theory that doesn't seem to be well-grounded?
because paleo cult is where the cool kids are....0 -
This...Wheelhouse15 wrote: »Not to be pessimistic but I don't think this will end well... :huh:
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Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »Why does everybody need a label for diet? How about just being "healthy"?
The jackals will jump all over that one, too.
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I just realized that I am a vegetarian about 51% of the time...hmmm, I think I will refer to myself as a vegetarian from now on. Then when people see me eating meat, and they say..."Aren't you a vegetarian?"...I will be like...
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This cricket flour discussion has reminded me of a rather unpleasant scene from the movie Snowpiercer. Has anyone seen that? It's a good movie, but the protein source the underclass is given turns out to have a rather unpalatable originNeed2Exerc1se wrote: »Interesting. Where can you buy cricket flour?? I'd probably give it a try. My only aversion to eating bugs would be the nasty texture.cockroaches
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New to the forums and seeing a lot of hateful people all here for the same thing, to lose weight and get healthier. Didn't know this was so full of licensed dieticians. What does it matter to you personally if someone wants to diet a different way than you? I think I'll stay out of these forums.0
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Exactly what I wanted to say to the OP.The way I eat is similar to paleo and I didn't start eating that way to lose weight. I changed for my general health and lost weight as a bonus. My body does not agree with grains or dairy at all! So I use a lot of paleo cookbooks. I think you find what works for your health and go with it people on here judge others way too much! If they are not taking your food away from you then let people eat what they want.
Agreed 100%. Can't go wrong with more natural nutritious foods. Whatever works for you.0 -
New to the forums and seeing a lot of hateful people all here for the same thing, to lose weight and get healthier. Didn't know this was so full of licensed dieticians. What does it matter to you personally if someone wants to diet a different way than you? I think I'll stay out of these forums.
thanks for stopping by ...
what does being a licensed dietician have to do with debating the merits of paleo????0 -
Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »I hate to continue reading this thread but Hornsby's comment is spot-on. Why does everybody need a label for diet? How about just being "healthy"? Why does it have to be a buzzword like "Paleo", or "Atkins", or "Mediterranean"; how about "healthy"? Everything doesn't need to be a buzzword or prefaced with a lowercase "e" or "i" to be good.
This is how I feel. I don't understand the desire for special named diets.
Well, I guess I'm somewhat convinced by Matt Fitzgerald's argument in Diet Cults.
I am in favor of eating a healthy diet, and try to do that.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »I hate to continue reading this thread but Hornsby's comment is spot-on. Why does everybody need a label for diet? How about just being "healthy"? Why does it have to be a buzzword like "Paleo", or "Atkins", or "Mediterranean"; how about "healthy"? Everything doesn't need to be a buzzword or prefaced with a lowercase "e" or "i" to be good.
This is how I feel. I don't understand the desire for special named diets.
Well, I guess I'm somewhat convinced by Matt Fitzgerald's argument in Diet Cults.
I am in favor of eating a healthy diet, and try to do that.
Because "healthy" is also a label for a diet. According to all the posts that I've seen on the board any way.
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New to the forums and seeing a lot of hateful people all here for the same thing, to lose weight and get healthier.
Are the non-hateful people here for a different reason? What?What does it matter to you personally if someone wants to diet a different way than you? I think I'll stay out of these forums.
Nothing in the discussion here has suggested that people shouldn't diet however they like. It's mostly been about labels lately. I AM curious why legumes shouldn't be part of a healthy diet, if someone enjoys legumes and feels good after eating them. I'm asking that
question here because the paleo diet excudes legumes on the basis that they are bad for us. I'm not at all suggesting that someone who doesn't want to eat legumes should eat them--that seems to be your misunderstanding. For example, as mentioned upthread, I rarely eat bread or rice, because they aren't worth the calories to me. But the difference is that I don't claim that including bread or rice in a healthy diet is impossible or that they are inherently unhealthy. Clearly they can contribute to a healthy diet. Many extremely healthy traditional diets are based in large part on grains and legumes.0 -
goddessofawesome wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »I hate to continue reading this thread but Hornsby's comment is spot-on. Why does everybody need a label for diet? How about just being "healthy"? Why does it have to be a buzzword like "Paleo", or "Atkins", or "Mediterranean"; how about "healthy"? Everything doesn't need to be a buzzword or prefaced with a lowercase "e" or "i" to be good.
This is how I feel. I don't understand the desire for special named diets.
Well, I guess I'm somewhat convinced by Matt Fitzgerald's argument in Diet Cults.
I am in favor of eating a healthy diet, and try to do that.
Because "healthy" is also a label for a diet. According to all the posts that I've seen on the board any way.
Eh, there are a million different possible healthy diets, so I disagree.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »I hate to continue reading this thread but Hornsby's comment is spot-on. Why does everybody need a label for diet? How about just being "healthy"? Why does it have to be a buzzword like "Paleo", or "Atkins", or "Mediterranean"; how about "healthy"? Everything doesn't need to be a buzzword or prefaced with a lowercase "e" or "i" to be good.
This is how I feel. I don't understand the desire for special named diets.
Well, I guess I'm somewhat convinced by Matt Fitzgerald's argument in Diet Cults.
I am in favor of eating a healthy diet, and try to do that.
Because "healthy" is also a label for a diet. According to all the posts that I've seen on the board any way.
Eh, there are a million different possible healthy diets, so I disagree.
I get that but what I consider to be a healthy diet might not be the same as what someone else considers healthy and because my view is different then I am therefore wrong. I've seen it a billion times on here.0 -
goddessofawesome wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »I hate to continue reading this thread but Hornsby's comment is spot-on. Why does everybody need a label for diet? How about just being "healthy"? Why does it have to be a buzzword like "Paleo", or "Atkins", or "Mediterranean"; how about "healthy"? Everything doesn't need to be a buzzword or prefaced with a lowercase "e" or "i" to be good.
This is how I feel. I don't understand the desire for special named diets.
Well, I guess I'm somewhat convinced by Matt Fitzgerald's argument in Diet Cults.
I am in favor of eating a healthy diet, and try to do that.
Because "healthy" is also a label for a diet. According to all the posts that I've seen on the board any way.
Eh, there are a million different possible healthy diets, so I disagree.
I get that but what I consider to be a healthy diet might not be the same as what someone else considers healthy and because my view is different then I am therefore wrong. I've seen it a billion times on here.
I think generally-speaking so long as someone doesn't evangelize how their diet is the one everyone must follow (or ask for help in following some restriction, granted), that no one cares.
This thread started because the OP told everyone to do paleo, so people quite reasonably asked why. Similarly, there are a thread or two going on now because the OP is evangelizing veganism (or 80-10-10 or some such and being sanctimonious about how everyone else will get heart disease) and there's usually a thread or 5 about how eating sugar will kill you or make you a junkie and how "eating clean" makes you healthier than everyone else, even though no one know what it means and the people who claim to do it don't seem to eat any differently than people who don't "eat clean."
I'm pretty clear that I think different diets work for different people, and that there's a huge range that can be both heathy and work for someone, depending on that person's issues, and that in some cases that may be doing low carb or cutting out food items.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »I hate to continue reading this thread but Hornsby's comment is spot-on. Why does everybody need a label for diet? How about just being "healthy"? Why does it have to be a buzzword like "Paleo", or "Atkins", or "Mediterranean"; how about "healthy"? Everything doesn't need to be a buzzword or prefaced with a lowercase "e" or "i" to be good.
This is how I feel. I don't understand the desire for special named diets.
Well, I guess I'm somewhat convinced by Matt Fitzgerald's argument in Diet Cults.
I am in favor of eating a healthy diet, and try to do that.
Because "healthy" is also a label for a diet. According to all the posts that I've seen on the board any way.
Eh, there are a million different possible healthy diets, so I disagree.
I get that but what I consider to be a healthy diet might not be the same as what someone else considers healthy and because my view is different then I am therefore wrong. I've seen it a billion times on here.
I think generally-speaking so long as someone doesn't evangelize how their diet is the one everyone must follow (or ask for help in following some restriction, granted), that no one cares.
Ha! Good one. 0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »I hate to continue reading this thread but Hornsby's comment is spot-on. Why does everybody need a label for diet? How about just being "healthy"? Why does it have to be a buzzword like "Paleo", or "Atkins", or "Mediterranean"; how about "healthy"? Everything doesn't need to be a buzzword or prefaced with a lowercase "e" or "i" to be good.
This is how I feel. I don't understand the desire for special named diets.
Well, I guess I'm somewhat convinced by Matt Fitzgerald's argument in Diet Cults.
I am in favor of eating a healthy diet, and try to do that.
Because "healthy" is also a label for a diet. According to all the posts that I've seen on the board any way.
Eh, there are a million different possible healthy diets, so I disagree.
I get that but what I consider to be a healthy diet might not be the same as what someone else considers healthy and because my view is different then I am therefore wrong. I've seen it a billion times on here.
I think generally-speaking so long as someone doesn't evangelize how their diet is the one everyone must follow (or ask for help in following some restriction, granted), that no one cares.
Ha! Good one.
Agreed.
It doesn't matter whether or not someone "evangelizes" what they want to do. If someone uses words phrases like "eating healthier" or "cutting down/out sugar" the mob comes out to lynch them and states how they've lost weight without eliminating anything and in fact eat cake and cookies all day long and they're still losing weight because "IIFYM!" And in a way are evangelizing what they do and how it's the best.0 -
goddessofawesome wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »I hate to continue reading this thread but Hornsby's comment is spot-on. Why does everybody need a label for diet? How about just being "healthy"? Why does it have to be a buzzword like "Paleo", or "Atkins", or "Mediterranean"; how about "healthy"? Everything doesn't need to be a buzzword or prefaced with a lowercase "e" or "i" to be good.
This is how I feel. I don't understand the desire for special named diets.
Well, I guess I'm somewhat convinced by Matt Fitzgerald's argument in Diet Cults.
I am in favor of eating a healthy diet, and try to do that.
Because "healthy" is also a label for a diet. According to all the posts that I've seen on the board any way.
Eh, there are a million different possible healthy diets, so I disagree.
I get that but what I consider to be a healthy diet might not be the same as what someone else considers healthy and because my view is different then I am therefore wrong. I've seen it a billion times on here.
I think generally-speaking so long as someone doesn't evangelize how their diet is the one everyone must follow (or ask for help in following some restriction, granted), that no one cares.
Ha! Good one.
Agreed.
It doesn't matter whether or not someone "evangelizes" what they want to do. If someone uses words phrases like "eating healthier" or "cutting down/out sugar" the mob comes out to lynch them and states how they've lost weight without eliminating anything and in fact eat cake and cookies all day long and they're still losing weight because "IIFYM!" And in a way are evangelizing what they do and how it's the best.
So adhering to science is "evangelizing" now? Curious world you live in.0 -
goddessofawesome wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »goddessofawesome wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »Sam_I_Am77 wrote: »I hate to continue reading this thread but Hornsby's comment is spot-on. Why does everybody need a label for diet? How about just being "healthy"? Why does it have to be a buzzword like "Paleo", or "Atkins", or "Mediterranean"; how about "healthy"? Everything doesn't need to be a buzzword or prefaced with a lowercase "e" or "i" to be good.
This is how I feel. I don't understand the desire for special named diets.
Well, I guess I'm somewhat convinced by Matt Fitzgerald's argument in Diet Cults.
I am in favor of eating a healthy diet, and try to do that.
Because "healthy" is also a label for a diet. According to all the posts that I've seen on the board any way.
Eh, there are a million different possible healthy diets, so I disagree.
I get that but what I consider to be a healthy diet might not be the same as what someone else considers healthy and because my view is different then I am therefore wrong. I've seen it a billion times on here.
I think generally-speaking so long as someone doesn't evangelize how their diet is the one everyone must follow (or ask for help in following some restriction, granted), that no one cares.
Ha! Good one.
Agreed.
It doesn't matter whether or not someone "evangelizes" what they want to do. If someone uses words phrases like "eating healthier" or "cutting down/out sugar" the mob comes out to lynch them and states how they've lost weight without eliminating anything and in fact eat cake and cookies all day long and they're still losing weight because "IIFYM!" And in a way are evangelizing what they do and how it's the best.
nice strawman about eating "cake and cookies all day" and that is not IIFYM ..
it might help to understand these things before making blanket comments about them..0
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